[jhb_airlines] Re: report 156

  • From: "Bones" <bones@xxxxxxx>
  • To: <jhb_airlines@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2004 16:22:05 +0100

Speed management is the real key to flying jets. For most of the flight =
can ease the workload by letting the autothrottle do all the work - a =
if you are moving up from turboprops or pistons.

The only thing to remember is that the autothrottle no longer =
automatically when you turn off the autopilot (it used to in FS98). You =
to manually disconnect it by using the mouse or by pressing CTRL + R =
can also arm the autothrottle by pressing SHIFT + R).

The speeds I am going to quote assume you have set the airspeed =
indicator to
operate in IAS mode rather than TAS.=20

Before take off dial up a speed of 250kts on the panel. After you get
airborne you can then engage the autothrottle and let it manage the =
for you. Once you get above FL100 increase the speed to 300kts - this is
good for a cruise climb but not all aircraft will manage this - some may
settle down around 280kts.

Despite setting 300kts the aircraft will actually be flying faster and
faster as you go higher. As the air gets thinner the ASI will under read
more and more. To stop overspeeding the trick is to switch the speed =
from kts to Mach No as you climb. As you climb above 31,000 ft (if you =
going that high) keep an eye on the ASI - especially the Mach No value. =
will steadily increase as you climb and when it reaches Mach 0.76 switch =
speed display over to Mach Number. The aircraft will now continue to =
at Mach 0.76. Once you have reached your cruising level you can set the =
cruise speed for the aircraft (usually between Mach 0.82 and Mach 0.86). =
ASI will still be reading somewhere in the 250 - 300 kt region during =
time but you can ignore this.

Descent is the tricky bit as you need to think ahead quite a bit. Plan =
ahead - if you are at FL300 you should be starting down at least 100nm =
your destination. The "proper" way to descend is the reverse of the =
but in FS you could get away with switching direct to an IAS descent. =
check your current indicated airspeed. If it is over 300kts then dial up
300kts for the descent but if it is less than 300kts then dial in =
You can now leave the speed alone for the whole of the descent down to
FL100. Ignore the fact that some aircraft are so clean that they won't
reduce to these speeds even with the throttles fully shut - this is why =
start your descent earlier rather than later. Getting too high and too =
is something that happens in real life too.

Once you are down to FL100 you should be planning your initial approach
procedures. Again it helps to get speeds back early to slow things down =
increase thinking time and here I can use a good real life example of =
Heathrow procedures. Inbound from the north you will be routed HON WCO =
and if you are lucky you will be cleared to BNN at FL70 (bottom of the =
so no holding..).

At WCO you should reduce speed to 210kts. BNN is the holding stack for
Heathrow and it is important to get the speed back to 210kts BEFORE you
reach this point. This is the maximum allowed speed for any holding =
Once you are cleared from BNN towards the ILS (and usually cleared down =
FL70 to 3000ft) reduce speed to 180kts. You will probably need to lower
flaps for this so check the flap schedule for your aircraft - on some it =
be Flap 10 but some will be Flap 15. You can stay at 180kts until you =
to intercept the ILS.

Once the ILS is active you reduce speed to your approach speed. Again =
the aircraft you are flying but with flaps at 20 or 25 you should be =
150kts for the early 737's, 160kts for the later 737's and about 170kts =
a 747. This is off the top of my head so don't quote me on these figures =
they may be slightly less.  In real life we would work out the exact
approach speed depending on the weight of the aircraft and you can do =
in FS too - but you should work this out during your pre flight planning =
not after you get airborne! It is rather critical in real life because =
approach speed can vary greatly from an empty aircraft to a full one. If =
try landing an empty aircraft at full weight speeds you'll end up far =
fast and will float a good way down the runway.

You can let the autothrottle manage your airspeed on the ILS down to the
point at which you normally switch off the autopilot but you must =
that you need to disconnect it with CTRL + R. What I tend to do these =
is let the aircraft settle on the ILS and when everything is nice and =
(flaps are all down and the speed is correct) I turn the autothrottle =
early. If you forget to turn off the autothrottle it can be embarrassing =
and you don't usually spot it until you come to round out and find the
aircraft isn't slowing down at all. By the time you realise this and hit =
disconnect button it is usually too late to land because you are a good =
down the runway.

Hope this helps..


> -----Original Message-----
> From: jhb_airlines-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=20
> [mailto:jhb_airlines-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of=20
> ErnieLaycock@xxxxxxx
> Sent: 18 October 2004 14:58
> To: jhb_airlines@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [jhb_airlines] report 156
> Hi again John.
> only one assignment this week but lots of practice on 737 at=20
> EGGP.My missed =20
> approaches have mounted up,but I am slowly getting the knack=20
> of it.The speed =20
> seems to be my Achilles Heel,but it is coming.I have brought=20
> myself back from =20
> Jordan:-
> OJAM - EGGP 4:50 737 (should have been 4:30,but missed=20
> approaches at EGGP =20
> made it a bit more).
> Local at EGGP 6:20
> Total 11:10
> Off for more practice now.
> Cheers=20
> Ernie 156

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