In a message dated 15/12/2006 09:03:00 GMT Standard Time, gwinsk@xxxxxxx writes: Frank, I think you're destined to be disappointed, with some. GS isn't going to be doing fixes for any of his exiting sceneries, apart from Glagow Xtreme. No possibillity, so I read, of an FSX version of FSNav until mid 2007. I'm a bit wary of claims for upgrades of FS9 aircraft. A couple I've tried have resulted in FSX crashes. Gerry Winskill Gerry, I've had FSX crashes recently too, on approach to Liverpool from the east, which I understand are down to the Horizon scenery. A fellow flyer is now testing the Horizon patch and he says they've fixed this. Maybe there'll be one less thing to wait for...... Frank T.