This raises a good subject for further debate but I'll not go down this road as it's been covered elsewhere. Most authorities created their own phonetics and there are many for police, telecoms, Army etc etc. Have a look at this page for just a few dozen of them.. http://www.faqs.org/faqs/radio/phonetic-alph/full/ Somehow, whilst Googling for this, it diverted me onto a page for Fermat's last theorem: http://www-groups.dcs.st-and.ac.uk/~history/HistTopics/Fermat's_last_theorem .html Don't ask me how but that then wasted another hour... bones -----Original Message----- From: jhb_airlines-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jhb_airlines-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Peter Dodds Sent: 01 October 2005 20:34 To: jhb_airlines@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Cc: pdodds@xxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [jhb_airlines] Re: VATSIM Now we had Aqua Ruby as one of our vans in the water company, so I wonder if your query re Roger was in fact Ruby? We had vehicles for all the other callsigns, and a few others, including Aqua Blue, Aqua Tango and Aqua Juliet, so they must have been licenced much later. I was Aqua Queen (which raised ribald comment) and my boss was Aqua King, which raised a different type of derogatory quip along the lines of "He's after the Chairman's job" etc.. Peter