[jhb_airlines] Re: Tiger Moth update

  • From: Gerry Winskill <gwinsk@xxxxxxx>
  • To: jhb_airlines@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2006 17:57:24 +0100

I've tried that but the non strut areas are black...

Notoriety at last, with one's SWMBO pictured in the Independant..

Gerry Winskill

Bones wrote:

One solution might be to get the original panel bitmap and make a copy. On
the original you remove all the struts and everything else you don't want.
On the copy you do the reverse - making sure the two cut off points are

You can then create a new window in the panel.cfg so the struts appear when
you activate that window.


-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:jhb_airlines-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Gerry Winskill
Sent: 07 September 2006 15:35
To: jhb_airlines@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [jhb_airlines] Re: Tiger Moth update

The weakness of my separate instrument panel monmitor approach is that it's not possible to use it with an aircraft like your Moth. If I unlock the panel, then the forward viewed struts come as part of the package and the instrument panel sits below, with the space between being a black background. I could raise the panel to the top of the screen by editing the bitmap. In doing that I'd lose the struts. I can't see a way of making the non panel sections of the unlocked window transparent, which would be ideal.

Still, can't have everything.

Gerry Winskill

Bones wrote:

I think the American compass as used by the FS2002 Tiger worked in the
way you described (I'd nicked the P38 compass as I could code gauges in

I agree that stalling in the Tiger is abysmal in FS - it doesn't work
at all. The reason for this is that FS treats the whole wing surface as
one lifting plane rather than model each wing separately. When you
stall it is right across the whole aircraft - you can't get one wing to
stall first or the aircraft to stall root first and gradually out to
the tips. I've never been able to work out how RealAir managed to model
two wings into their air file so their aircraft stall and spin properly
- the SF260 being almost perfect in this behaviour.

Oddly enough, since I got TrackIR I've flown the Tiger almost totally
in VC mode.


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[mailto:jhb_airlines-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Peter Dodds
Sent: 07 September 2006 11:24
To: jhb_airlines@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
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Subject: [jhb_airlines] Re: Tiger Moth update

"My crosshairs and bezel also move independently which is how the
original version works"

Sorry, John, that was duff gen.  It doesn't! I'm sure I came across an
aircraft where it does though, which is why I'm getting confused.

On my P4 you can use either a mouse click or the scroll wheel to
rotate the bezel.

That's a good trick!

I have emailed you my panel progress for review.

Incidentally, I just tried stalling the Tiger. Both power off and on,
it is very benign, rather like a Piper Warrior, just nodding up and
down, though with increasing degrees of pitch. However, it doesn't
lose any height. I can't believe that it is so docile, in real life. I
assume, like all FS flight dynamics, proper stalling is impossible. It
does fly beautifully otherwise, and is much easier somehow to fly than the
old version with a mental picture of the view
ahead rather thn an actual one, but that must be an illusion! I found I
could even taxi without having to use VC "head
to one side" mode or Panel off mode. I've got a Track IR version 1 but


never really get on with it. Been flying
too long with a 2D cockpit, I guess.

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