[jhb_airlines] Re: Tiger Moth update

  • From: "Bones" <bones@xxxxxxx>
  • To: <jhb_airlines@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 17:39:04 +0100

One solution might be to get the original panel bitmap and make a copy. On
the original you remove all the struts and everything else you don't want.
On the copy you do the reverse - making sure the two cut off points are

You can then create a new window in the panel.cfg so the struts appear when
you activate that window.


-----Original Message-----
From: jhb_airlines-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:jhb_airlines-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Gerry Winskill
Sent: 07 September 2006 15:35
To: jhb_airlines@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [jhb_airlines] Re: Tiger Moth update

The weakness of my separate instrument panel monmitor approach is that
it's not possible to use it with an aircraft like your Moth. If I unlock
the panel, then the forward viewed struts come as part of the package
and the instrument panel sits below, with the space between being a
black background. I could raise the panel to the top of the screen by
editing the bitmap. In doing that I'd lose the struts. I can't see a way
of making the non panel sections of the unlocked window transparent,
which would be ideal.

Still, can't have everything.

Gerry Winskill

Bones wrote:

>I think the American compass as used by the FS2002 Tiger worked in the
>way you described (I'd nicked the P38 compass as I could code gauges in
>I agree that stalling in the Tiger is abysmal in FS - it doesn't work
>at all. The reason for this is that FS treats the whole wing surface as
>one lifting plane rather than model each wing separately. When you
>stall it is right across the whole aircraft - you can't get one wing to
>stall first or the aircraft to stall root first and gradually out to
>the tips. I've never been able to work out how RealAir managed to model
>two wings into their air file so their aircraft stall and spin properly
>- the SF260 being almost perfect in this behaviour.
>Oddly enough, since I got TrackIR I've flown the Tiger almost totally
>in VC mode.
>-----Original Message-----
>From: jhb_airlines-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>[mailto:jhb_airlines-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Peter Dodds
>Sent: 07 September 2006 11:24
>To: jhb_airlines@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Cc: pdodds@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Subject: [jhb_airlines] Re: Tiger Moth update
>>"My crosshairs and bezel also move independently which is how the
>>original version works"
>Sorry, John, that was duff gen.  It doesn't! I'm sure I came across an
>aircraft where it does though, which is why I'm getting confused.
>>On my P4 you can use either a mouse click or the scroll wheel to
>>rotate the bezel.
>That's a good trick!
>I have emailed you my panel progress for review.
>Incidentally, I just tried stalling the Tiger.  Both power off and on,
>it is very benign, rather like a Piper Warrior, just nodding up and
>down, though with increasing degrees of pitch.  However, it doesn't
>lose any height.  I can't believe that it is so docile, in real life. I
>assume, like all FS flight dynamics, proper stalling is impossible.  It
>does fly beautifully otherwise, and is much easier somehow to fly than the
>old version with a mental picture of the view
>ahead rather thn an actual one, but that must be an illusion!  I found I
>could even taxi without having to use VC "head
>to one side" mode or Panel off mode. I've got a Track IR version 1 but
>never really get on with it. Been flying
>too long with a 2D cockpit, I guess.

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