[jhb_airlines] Re: Thinkpad

  • From: "bones" <bones@xxxxxxx>
  • To: <jhb_airlines@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2007 17:16:42 +0100

About 90 quid for XP with SP2 but 60 quid for Vista Home. Says it all
really..
 
bones

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[mailto:jhb_airlines-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Paul Reynolds
Sent: 18 September 2007 17:08
To: jhb_airlines@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [jhb_airlines] Re: Thinkpad


Any further search on removing/bypassing the novell log-in start going into
serious hacking territory and the use of dubious third party utilities.  It
looks as though formatting out may be the only option.  So how much is a new
copy of XP  these days?
 
Paul

-----Original Message-----
From: jhb_airlines-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:jhb_airlines-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of bones
Sent: 18 September 2007 16:45
To: jhb_airlines@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [jhb_airlines] Re: Thinkpad


When Novell starts it asks for a Username and password. The Username is
currently u788375.
 
Underneath are drop down boxes for Tree, Context and Server. 
 
Tree only shows one option of MANXTREE. 
 
Context gives options of:
Didsbury, manchester.uk
engineering_tree.manx
IT.manx
Manx
 
Servers gives ENGINEERING_SERVER and AIRLINE_SERVER
 
If I choose to login on workstation only it gives a choice of the BACX
server (BA CityExpress) or local of A216264 - which I presume is the ident
of the laptop.
 
And no - Administrator didn't work <g>
 
bones

-----Original Message-----
From: jhb_airlines-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:jhb_airlines-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Paul Reynolds
Sent: 18 September 2007 16:02
To: jhb_airlines@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [jhb_airlines] Re: Thinkpad


A net search on 'bypass novell boot on laptop' came up with logging in as
'administrator' with no password.  Apparently lots of admins do this.  Now
would BA be so stupid? ...possibly... <g>
 
Paul

-----Original Message-----
From: jhb_airlines-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:jhb_airlines-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Alex Barrett
Sent: 18 September 2007 15:52
To: jhb_airlines@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [jhb_airlines] Re: Thinkpad


I spent 3 years in charge of software deployment for a company running
nothing but Bloody Novell. 

Now, if I remember correctly, unc32.exe is a dos command application, is it
possible to put in your Windows XP disk, boot into recovery mode (hit R when
it asks what you want to do) then run unc32.exe from within the recovery
console? 


OR the other way round which I've just recalled, is boot into recovery mode
with the XP disk, and find NWGina.dll ("C:\WINDOWS\system32" - is the
default) 

You want to change this file for MSGina.dll either by putting your own one
on disk and swapping it (be sure your XP is same version as the one
installed, I.E SP2 for SP2) or by deleting NWGina.dll and copying the
MSGina.dll from that same machine (far safer) 

Basically the Gina.dll's are called on bootup and determine if you will be
prompted to login, if no login screen is called through the Gina.dll's then
you'll be taken straight into the root account. 

If you cant find, or copy the MSGina.dll (our standard company practice used
to be to rename MSGina.dll to GinaOrig.BAK) then you can just try deleting
the NWGina.dll and it may just boot directly into windows, it depends on the
account permissions. 

Anyway, once that file is gone it wont ask you the Novell details anymore.
If you need any further help, just ask.

Alex 



bones wrote: 

Good try but they trapped that too. You boot into Safe Mode and the Novell

login still comes up before you can get to the DOS prompt.



Hmmm. I wonder if I can boot from an old DOS 5.1 floppy? Trouble is I

probably can't run unc32.exe then because it will probably tell me it is a

different OS..



bones



-----Original Message-----

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[mailto:jhb_airlines-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Paul Reynolds

Sent: 18 September 2007 15:20

To: jhb_airlines@xxxxxxxxxxxxx

Subject: [jhb_airlines] Re: Thinkpad





Can you use the F8 key to get the boot menu up before the Novell Log-in

screen comes up?



If so, boot in safe mode, go to the Novell directory (usually c:\Novell) and

run unc32.exe.



Paul



-----Original Message-----

From: jhb_airlines-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx

[mailto:jhb_airlines-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of bones

Sent: 18 September 2007 15:09

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Subject: [jhb_airlines] Re: Thinkpad





With Novell you are locked out of any Windows access. The first thing on

screen is a Novell login and if you can't get past this you've had it.



bones



-----Original Message-----

From: jhb_airlines-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx

[mailto:jhb_airlines-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Franklyn Fisher

Sent: 18 September 2007 15:02

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Subject: [jhb_airlines] Re: Thinkpad





Any chance you can safe boot into the registery,and sort it from there.

Sometimes works. FF

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From: "bones"  <mailto:bones@xxxxxxx> <bones@xxxxxxx>

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Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2007 2:45 PM

Subject: [jhb_airlines] Thinkpad





  

The charger for the laptop arrived today and I have it working again.



I've had no luck contacting any of the guys that used it at BA so it

looks like I might have to wipe everything and reinstall XP from CD.

That's a pity as it already has a kosher copy installed - but locked

down by Novell Network.



The only problem that worries me is that if I use my own XP CD I

presume it will require activating after installation - and I can't

really do that as MS will surely require me to buy a second license..



John Woodside

bones@xxxxxxx

http://woodair.net















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