[jhb_airlines] Re: Please refresh these old brain cells

  • From: "Mike Brook" <mike.brook@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <jhb_airlines@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2008 13:49:19 +0100

Mike –


(bones – don’t read this … <g>)


One of the joys of being a part of JHB (and this list) over the years has been 
the way that the boss has freely and without hesitation, shared not only his 
comprehensive flying and ATC knowledge but his knowledge and personal 
experiences as well.  His immense skill in sharing and explaining anything 
related to aviation in the sort of language that the average Joe in the street 
can understand are now legendary.  Several years ago, when flying online was a 
tad more enjoyable, we had several multiplayer sessions centred on Kai Tak.  
bones’ tutorials and patience taught many of us the ‘skills’ that we like to 
think that we have today and the pleasure of successfully ‘landing’ some heavy 
metal at that most difficult airport under careful ATC cover and using correct 
procedures were a joy that has ensured that I have continued with this hobby 
ever since <g>.  I still remember the Tiger Moth ‘fly-ins’ at Woburn and  
Shuttleworth with great pleasure!


It is good to see that bones’ tutorial skills have continued to this day … 





p.s. I still want that bit of kit …  8-(


From: jhb_airlines-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
[mailto:jhb_airlines-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Mike Nicholls
Sent: 24 September 2008 13:15
To: jhb_airlines@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [jhb_airlines] Re: Please refresh these old brain cells




It never ceases to amaze me the amount of time and effort you put into these 
projects to bring to our aviation world


The pictures look great, it makes a huge difference to see airspace and navids 
around the airports, particularly a busy one like Gatwick


My eldest son flies out of there on Saturday bound for a sunny week in Cairo. 
As both he and his other half  used to be a tour reps ( she was his manager ), 
it will amuse him to catch up with his ex colleagues from the other side of the 
( perimeter ) fence





----- Original Message ----
From: Bones <bones@xxxxxxx>
To: jhb_airlines@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Wednesday, 24 September, 2008 12:06:40
Subject: [jhb_airlines] Re: Please refresh these old brain cells

The Mode C/Mode S stuff I knew because it's part of basic ATC training and
the ADSB trials are published in the ICAO development publications which we
should all (but many don't) read.

When the SBS box came on the market I already knew what it was about - and I
was also very surprised that a small company could develop such a tool years
ahead of anything the CAA were contemplating. In truth SBS users were
picking up Mode S signals a long time before the CAA ran the first test
signals from the Burrington and Pease Pottage sites.

The basic SBS software is quite that - rather basic. The display on first
firing it up is hard to assimilate - this shot is centred on Gatwick:

I saw that the coding was quite simple and so it was quite an easy job -
although horribly time consuming - to add data for airspace and navaids. The
difference is quite stunning for the same viewpoint:

In fact, having designed all the UK airspace files it was this data I
reconverted to IVAO format for use in the IVAO controller software - these
are shots of Doncaster in SBS and then in IVAO and there's little difference
between the two displays:

As I got to know the software better I developed further data files for it
and eventually set up a web page so users could download the extras. Other
users were also designing tools for the SBS and some of the really good ones
are also on the page - making it an essential place for SBS newbies to

I include the above link because although the content may not be of interest
there are some nice screenshots. <g> Having said that there are three KML
files on the page for UK navaids, airports and fixes that can be loaded up
in Google Earth that any JHB member may find useful.

Inevitably the number of files available became confusing and the forum got
swamped with requests for help in setting these up. In addition the many
tweaks to the SBS software itself produced a lot of posts and (as is
inevitable) these became somewhat repetitive as older posts scrolled down
the list. In the end order had to be restored from this chaos and I ended up
writing a tutorial on the system:

Funnily enough I thought the tutorial would take weeks to write because of
the sheer volume of information and the many screenshots needed - and that
it was during a period when I wasn't very well at all. Somehow I seem to
work better in tough conditions and the article was essentially finished in
48 hours. Proof reading took another week though. <g>

http://woodair.net <http://woodair.net/> 

-----Original Message-----
From: jhb_airlines-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:jhb_airlines-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of F FISHER
Sent: 24 September 2008 09:20
To: jhb_airlines@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [jhb_airlines] Re: Please refresh these old brain cells

All I can say Bones, is wow.

Will have a look at the screen shots a bit later.

I do not know have you have the time to do all this, and as for the knowhow,

you must be in the mensa league.

I think I will stick to my hammer and chisel. And keep my head down.

Frank F

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