[jhb_airlines] Re: PCF aircraft

  • From: "Bones" <bones@xxxxxxx>
  • To: <jhb_airlines@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2006 06:05:05 +0100

Update on the JHB aircraft.

The operational fleet now totals 15 aircraft. Stefan gave us the A318 to
A321, AT75, B732, B744, B773. I now have working JHB aircraft for the C172,
BE58, Falcon 2000, Dash8 300, Fokker 70/100 and Beech 1900. Of these the
Falcon just needs the engines painting and the Beech 1900 is still bare

I was going to upload these tonight but my ISP is playing silly sods and I
can't send attachments (sorry Paul). I will finish the Falcon and Beech 1900
and put the lot up on my web site - probably later today.

Now, some of you may still be finding ATOC aircraft appearing in your Flight
Plan drop down box. You need to get rid of these but it means opening up the
aircraft.cfg file for each aircraft. Scroll down to the very bottom of the
cfg file and you will find an old [Fltsim.x] entry for the original ATOC
module. Delete this section. Back in FS just tell it to Update the Livery
List and the ATOC entries should disappear. No need to fiddle with the
PCFAircraftList.ini file - this gets rebuilt automatically.


-----Original Message-----
From: jhb_airlines-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:jhb_airlines-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Bones
Sent: 18 September 2006 21:45
To: jhb_airlines@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [jhb_airlines] Re: PCF aircraft

In that case most of your list is already done. The three exceptions are the
PA28, A300 and Dash 8. Bad news is that there are no Piper light aircraft in
the ATOC list - the only other GA aircraft looks like the Katana.


-----Original Message-----
From: jhb_airlines-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:jhb_airlines-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Mike Brook
Sent: 18 September 2006 20:20
To: jhb_airlines@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [jhb_airlines] Re: PCF aircraft

Bones -

My preference list would be for PA28, F100, Dash 8, A300, A310, B737 & B744,
all of which I fly regularly.  The AI/MP versions don't have to be identical
to the actual a/c being flown, they only need to provide a generic ident.


> -----Original Message-----
> From: jhb_airlines-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:jhb_airlines-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Bones
> Sent: Monday, September 18, 2006 7:26 PM
> To: JHB Email List
> Subject: [jhb_airlines] PCF aircraft
> Using the old ATOC templates I have now knocked up JHB aircraft for
> the C172, BE58, F70 and F100. These are all now "converted" to PCF
> titles and air/cfg files.
> I'm still not sure about the PCFAircraftList.ini file. A typical
> example is
> :
> [PCF A320 JHB]
> Type=A320
> TypeEx=321200
> Description=JHB Airlines
> Description2=Model by ARNZ AIS-AI\n\nTextures by John Woodside
> Height=8.6 Pitch=0
> I think the TypeEx= line is a rough guide for the aircraft type but I
> only have ideas about the first two numbers. The first is engine type
> with 3 for jet and 2 for prop. Second number is the number of engines.
> So the A320 is
> 321200, the A340 is 341200 and the ATR72 is 221200. I've no
> idea on the next
> two and why the F100 is 321300.
> Height and pitch are probably MP equivalents to static height and
> pitch in the aircraft.cfg file. I don't think these are fine tuned by
> PCF and that will explain the slight floating or sinking effect when
> viewing other aircraft.
> Timo has converted all my earlier Airbus files to PCF format and I
> have converted all the rest I can find. That gives me a fleet of the
> following:
> A318
> A319
> A320
> A321
> ATR72 500
> B737 200
> B747 400
> B777 300
> BEECH 58
> C172
> FOKKER 100
> It would be nice to expand this list but it is a lot of work and best
> restricted to a handful of aircraft that everyone regularly flies.
> Paul rightly said that we should have at least one aircraft in each
> group but twin jets are rather oversaturated already. Splitting the
> above into groups
> gives:
> Single piston: C172
> Twin Piston: BE58
> Multi piston: none
> Single jet: none
> Twin jet: Far too many
> Multi jet: B747
> Now if we look at the proper (flyable) JHB repaints we have a
> different list. Missing from the above list are: Falcon 50
> Citation
> Beech 1900
> B757
> A300
> A340
> Dash 8
> Most of these already have ATOC designs which could be converted -
> although the Falcon 50 would have to become a Falcon 2000.
> Before we embark on a spree of repaints the real question is whether
> they are all necessary or not. Some would be good to have - the Dash 8
> being a perfect example - but what about the A300? The next question
> is whether
> there are other aircraft not listed above that pilots
> regularly fly? I don't
> mean one pilot here as it would be pointless to design an
> aircraft that
> never gets selected in the flight plan box by pilots.
> I guess the real question is what aircraft would you have liked to
> select in the flight plan list and not found. Forget the Tiger Moth
> but I'd like to know if a sensible list can be drawn up.
> bones
> bones@xxxxxxx
> http://fsaviation.net

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