The truth is probably six of one half-a-dozen of t'other. It's about sustainability. If the loss of one or two individuals, be they pilots or controllers, brings about collapse then it cannot be considered sustainable. The real question is how you achieve core numbers in each area to achieve sustainability. Now if I knew the answer to that, I'd be propositioning PC for associate partnership. Paul -----Original Message----- From: jhb_airlines-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jhb_airlines-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of franklyn fisher Sent: 18 December 2006 15:50 To: jhb_airlines@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [jhb_airlines] Re: PASSWORD FOR CONNECTION TO ATC CONTROLLER ----- I guess everyone sees things in a different light and my opinion is that the loss of ATC coverage starts the ball rolling and pilot attendance drops as a result of this. Bones I do not think it is the case here, more the other way round. Frank F nal Message ----- From: Bones <mailto:bones@xxxxxxx> To: jhb_airlines@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Sunday, December 17, 2006 8:23 PM Subject: [jhb_airlines] Re: PASSWORD FOR CONNECTION TO ATC CONTROLLER