[jhb_airlines] Re: Online flight/IVAO/Stuff

  • From: "bones" <bones@xxxxxxx>
  • To: <jhb_airlines@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2007 01:19:57 +0100

I used the Window Add/Remove Programs option - it was in there.

bones

-----Original Message-----
From: jhb_airlines-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:jhb_airlines-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Gerry Winskill
Sent: 30 August 2007 22:59
To: jhb_airlines@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [jhb_airlines] Re: Online flight/IVAO/Stuff


I coudn't find a removal utillity, nor a module in the Modules folder. Could
they be Controller software specific?

Gerry Winskill

bones wrote:

>Although I have removed the PCI pilot software from my system - which
>I'll never use again - I still have the controller suite installed.
>
>One word of advice should we eventually decide to leave PCI. The
>uninstall utility doesn't remove all traces of PCI from the system - it
>just seems to remove the PCI folders. The files within FS are still
>there (including the 1.5Mb DLL in the Modules folder) plus a raft of
>Registry entries. As FS loads all DLL's in the Modules folder it's best
>to get any old ones out of there as they just eat up memory.
>
>bones
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: jhb_airlines-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>[mailto:jhb_airlines-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Peter Dodds
>Sent: 28 August 2007 13:28
>To: jhb_airlines@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Cc: pdodds@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Subject: [jhb_airlines] Re: Online flight/IVAO/Stuff
>
>
>I bookmarked this message for comment ages ago, but it escaped along
>with so many other things...<sigh>
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>>How has everyone else got on with IVAO? for those of you that tried it
>>that is.
>>
>>In answer to Alan's question about VATSIM. I did give it a go before I
>>left and I'm afraid that it just didn't do anything for me, the GA
>>ops
>>was good for the time I was flying around, however was made to feel
>>a bit of a nuisance when requesting airspace transits, a bit too
>>much
>>like real life for it to be hobby like.
>>
>>
>I have always found the controllers welcome me because I give them
>something to do.  I am traffic.
>
>
>>Also it just felt more of a competition to be better than everyone
>>else, pilots and controllers alike. Far too much snobbery, it just
>>didn't feel like an organisation where one could feel at home.
>>
>>
>I just don't recognise this. I reckon the BTB in Vatsim would be
>mortified to feel that you feel that way.  There is only one
>objectionable bossy ATCO in VATSIM UK that i know of, and we GA types
>just don't fly in his patch. His loss, not ours.
>
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>>The software isn't as slick as IVAO's,
>>
>>
>Agreed
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>>the web systems don't seem to be advanced.
>>
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>Perhaps, but you can find what you want easier than on IVAO
>
>
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>>I'm sure its an excellent network for those who want to plug in, fly
>>by the book, log out and do their flight reports at their little
>>desks. However I want to be part of a community.
>>
>>
>Like Clifton Flyers, Virtual BBMF, Cix VFR you mean <g>
>
>
>
>>As with Bones I joined way back when it was SATCO, down in the dark
>>days when one could see names like Miguel Blaufuks, Mungo Amyatt-Leir
>>and Nels Anderson flying round. In fact I was one of the first UK
>>Division staff members, I remember the long nights of sitting as EGTT
>>CTR and having only one aircraft come in and out of Heathrow, FS
>>awareness of SID's and STARS back then was almost non existent and
>>their introduction as things got more busy caused many problems.
>>
>>It was at the introduction of membership entry exams that I left,
>>something I protested most strongly, and loudly, about. I'm glad to
>>see those have gone now.
>>
>>
>I suspect your memories are your burden, Alex, in the same way that I
>shake my head in disbelief at the time and money wasted in modern
>businesses sending emails, staring at documents on PCs most of which
>(in Engineering at any rate) are generated as a result of the Health &
>Safety at Work Act which is a bucket for all excuses and incompetance.
>You need a method statement, a risk assessment, a safe system of work,
>a detailed drawing and 10 meetings just to knock a nail in!!!  New
>employees just don't see this - this is the norm for them.
>
>
>>I will give VATSIM further tries over the week, however for the moment
>>IVAO is certainly at the top of the pile for me - things could change
>>of course!
>>
>>
>
>I think we (JHB) are committed to IVAO now - Bones has only today burnt
>his PCI bridges! <g>
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>Peter
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