[jhb_airlines] Re: Oddbits

  • From: "Bones" <bones@xxxxxxx>
  • To: <jhb_airlines@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 6 Aug 2004 18:31:36 +0100

The Chipmunk didn't have a sparkling performance in the cruise. It had a
Gipsy Major pushing out 145hp (about the same as a PA28 or C172) but it
was a heavy aircraft compared with the other two. It was about 1500lb
empty and had a MAUW of just 2100lb (600lb capacity for fuel and crew).
The PA28 and C172 could get up to 800/1000lb disposable load. 

Just looking through the official flip cards for the Chippie right now -
and some of the figures are coming back to me. 

VNE 173kts. Flaps 15 at 93kts and flaps 30 at 71kts. Rotate at 45kts,
climb at 70kts. Stall 47kts flaps up and 43kts flaps down.
Aerobatics: Roll - 113kts. Loop - 122kts. Half roll of top of loop -
Cruise figure quoted at 2100rpm is 100kts but I recall it didn't quite
get that high. I recall using 2050rpm for a 95kt cruise - but you know
what memory is like.
Descent at 70kts. Approach speed 60kts flaps down or 55kts (short field)
reducing to 50kts over the threshold.

I'll have a word with Andy about FPI procedures. I know he is concerned
about misuse of the system but has not considered the possible motives
of users. Your thinking is reasonable but, in his eyes, he might be
seeing it as a means of racking up hours with FPI with no associated
activity. If you had actually been flying about a bit he probably would
not have noticed. The other point he made is that if they want to drop a
server for tweaking and he can't get in touch with someone logged in
then it can get frustrating. I suppose the best thing is just make sure
you are listening out during the period you are online.


> -----Original Message-----
> From: jhb_airlines-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
> [mailto:jhb_airlines-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of gwinsk@xxxxxxx
> Sent: 06 August 2004 08:06
> To: jhb_airlines@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [jhb_airlines] Re: Oddbits
> I'm another offender.
>  I fear Andy may be shooting himself in the foot, with this 
> one. I have only stayed on-line but inactive, during the 
> daytime, for about three hours, in the 
> hope that others might see me and join in. This has worked on 
> at least one occasion. 
> The alternative, of checking Infoserve, to see if any of our 
> group are about, is a bit 
> chicken and egg. My staying on line was to try to encourage 
> UK use. Issuing "warnings" 
> is a bit Vatsimish and hardly likely to encourage users. In 
> my own case, Oon the 
> occasion that Mike had told me that Andy was upset by my 
> inadverTant and silent 
> presence, I was reluctant to join in again, apart from your 
> own sessions. At the moment, 
> I've gone the other way and tend to log on for most of my 
> flying. Most of the time there's 
> no-one in UK airspace. During the day, I've not seen Andy's 
> name in the controllers' 
> slot, so perhaps he won't have spotted me, in passive mode, 
> anyway. I think there's a balance to be struck, between a 
> proprietorial approach and one that will 
> be welcoming, particularly to novices. Which moves the focus 
> back to your own, greatly 
> enjoyed, sessions.
> I downloaded the Chipmunk upgrade, last night, and will try 
> it, shortly. I agree with your 
> JHB comments. It's a great little aircraft but I'm sure my 
> friend and erstwhile Chipmunk 
> syndicate member used to cruise at a bit more than 90 kias. 
> Or is that my imitation 
> Spitfire view taking over? He was such a good pilot it was 
> hard to identify the aircraft 
> with the usual observations on its slightly tetchy nature.
> Gerry Winskill
> gwinsk@xxxxxxx
> > On another note Andy has a request. If you are flying in 
> FPI and then 
> > knock off for lunch/dinner/supper please remember to log out of the 
> > FPI server. The logs are showing some pilots on line for 
> really long 
> > hours and when he tries to contact them on voice there is 
> no reply. I 
> > must admit I am guilty of this as I just checked my records 
> on the FPI 
> > pages and I have one session of 21 hours! He has warned me 
> that pilots 
> > with silly daily totals will get a warning about misuse of 
> the servers 
> > and will be dropped if they don't mend their ways.
> > 
> > I have also had a very nice email from Rick Piper regarding 
> his superb 
> > Chipmunk. He has just uploaded an update for the aircraft 
> which fixes 
> > a couple of snags but it also includes files that make it work in 
> > FS2002. He's also sending me a paintkit to make a proper repaint of 
> > the aircraft. If I get a good photo of G-BARS I will do a 
> proper job 
> > of it and upload the textures to my web site. I have also 
> written to 
> > Andrew Herd at Flightsim to see if he can do the write up for the 
> > aircraft.
> > 
> > HC@xxxxxxxxxx
> > http://fsaviation.net
> > 
> > 

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