It's light pollution. I guess the passenger lights are dimmed to prevent the light spill from interfering with the pilots periferral vision. Paul -----Original Message----- From: jhb_airlines-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jhb_airlines-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Wilding, Colin Sent: 17 August 2005 10:39 To: jhb_airlines@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [jhb_airlines] Re: Lights out Although I can't remember the technicial name for it, presumably there is some kind of reflection from outside; rather like the problems astronomers have seeing stars over major cities Colin Colin Wilding Policy & Processing Manager HCC Diversified Financial Products Ltd A subsidiary of HCC Insurance Holdings, Inc. Mailto:cwilding@xxxxxxxx Tel: +44 20 7680 2933 -----Original Message----- From: jhb_airlines-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jhb_airlines-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Peter Dodds Sent: 17 August 2005 10:34 To: jhb_airlines@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Cc: pdodds@xxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [jhb_airlines] Re: Lights out But the flight crew are behind a closed windowless door. Surely thy cannot see the <passenger> cabin lights? Peter ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- This email and any attachments are sent in confidence, subject to applicable legal privilege and upon the basis that the recipient will conduct appropriate virus checks. If you receive this email in error, please telephone us upon receipt and delete the email upon our instruction: you are strictly prohibited from using, copying or disseminating it or any information contained in it, save to the intended recipient. Internet communications are not secure and HCC Diversified Financial Products Ltd is not responsible for their abuse by third parties, nor for any alteration or corruption in transmission, nor for any damage or loss caused by any virus or other defect. Further, HCC Diversified Financial Products Ltd is not responsible for the sender's views which are not necessarily the views of HCC Diversified Financial Products Ltd nor for any third party statements contained and forwarded in any email communications. No representation or warranty is made as to the accuracy or completeness of the content of this email and no liability shall be accepted for any loss arising from its use. HCC Diversified Products Ltd, registered in England (No.3469568), registered address: Walsingham House, 35 Seething Lane, London EC3N 4AH, is an appointed representative of both Houston Casualty Company, which is authorized and regulated by the Financial Services Authority, and Houston Casualty Company Europe, Seguros y Reaseguros S.A., which is authorized by Direccion General de Seguros y Fondos de Pensiones and regulated by the Financial Services Authority for the conduct of UK business.