Simply get the Lat Long positions for each fix you need. These will either be in degrees, minutes and seconds (54:21:03) or probably degrees, minutes and decimal minutes (51:24.6456). You need to convert these to decimal degrees. For DMS - 54:21:03 for example - divide the 03 by 60 and add to the 21 (becomes 21.05). Next divide this by 60 and add the 54. Result should be 54.350833. For DM.MM - say 54:21.5436 - just divide the 21.5436 by 60 and add the 54. Result should be 54.35906. Best thing is to run up a quick spreadsheet to do this to minimise typos. bones -----Original Message----- From: jhb_airlines-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jhb_airlines-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Kevin Townsend Sent: 14 November 2004 22:51 To: jhb_airlines@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [jhb_airlines] Lat Lon conversion I have begun to control the Farnborough Tower in FPI and wanted to create the correct SID/STAR routes. In order to do this I must create a .txt file outlining the route points expressed in such a manner.... 50.033611 Can anyone advise how best to acquire this co-ordinate, say of Compton VOR? My thanks in advance Kev