[jhb_airlines] Re: JHB037 hours and VATSIM

  • From: "Bones" <bones@xxxxxxx>
  • To: <jhb_airlines@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sun, 25 Sep 2005 15:12:52 +0100

Yep. Playing with the awful ASRC software reminds me how complex it is -
much worse than a real radar system. Unfortunately they built it to model,
almost exactly, the US centre radars which do most of their strip marking on
the tube itself - squawks, clearances, levels etc. My guess is that ATC in
VAT_UK still don't use half of these.

Coms is the real headache and trying to intercom another controller can be a
pig. Before I can do this I need the UK POF file (if anyone has done this)
that allocates a two letter code to every controller position. As I still
can't get into the UK site I'm stuck for the moment..


-----Original Message-----
From: jhb_airlines-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:jhb_airlines-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Gerry Winskill
Sent: 25 September 2005 14:33
To: jhb_airlines@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [jhb_airlines] Re: JHB037 hours and VATSIM

Features of VATSIM that don't turn me on, despite the far healthier
numbers of controllers and pilots, include
On my system the sound is definitely not as good.
With the ATOC window, I could plonk it on a part of the Servinfo display
that I don't need to see. The VATSIM windows won't allow the
competition! If I try the same dodge then they sit, out of site, behind
the Servinfo. Ditto with my displaced FSNav display. In theory the
window can be reduced to just its banner heading. Then you can't see the
ATC details.
The good news is over 800 participants, this morning. The bad is that
when Servinfo does its reular updates the load causes FS9 to pause.

Not really a Luddite and I'll use VATSIM when that seems my best option,
using FPI when it doesn't.
Overall, my ideal would be FPI but with VATSIM's numbers of controllers.

Gerry Winskill

Bones wrote:

> Thank you John,
> I have no intention of moving from FPI - especially for the Wednesday
> night flights. I do concede though that the lack of traffic is one
> reason why it is so tempting for pilots to move to VATSIM - even if
> just for the experience.
> I played around with the ASRC software again last night and it really
> is pretty awful compared to the FPI radar screen. It starts off with a
> completely blank screen and you have to load the sector file for the
> area you want to control i.e. EGNS. When this loads you only see the
> data in this file - basically just the IOM zone - and you cannot look
> further away than this. There is no way, as we do in FPI, of talking
> an aircraft into one airport and then zooming in somewhere else miles
> away to vector an aircraft into another airport.
> I loaded the EGNS sector file last night and the control zone pops up
> OK - but no runway centrelines! It took some delving around but the
> SCT format became familiar again and it needs a lot of work to bring
> it up to FPI standards.. Airfield layout is good though - not
> surprising because I recognise it instantly as my own work - the data
> being taken directly from some real airfields plans I made several
> years ago. <vbg>
> All in all the FPI ATC software is still streets ahead.
> bones
>     -----Original Message-----
>     *From:* jhb_airlines-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>     [mailto:jhb_airlines-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On Behalf Of
>     *Pentalverjohn@xxxxxxx
>     *Sent:* 24 September 2005 10:29
>     *To:* jhb_airlines@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>     *Subject:* [jhb_airlines] Re: JHB037 hours and VATSIM
>     Hi Bones & All
>     I sent you my old vatsim ID 908319 which is not active anymore, so
>     i have registered again
>     new ID is 944069 I hope that it will help.
>     PS
>     i only hope that we will see everyone on FPI still. as you know i
>     ATC on wednesday nights and i only hope that more pilots will join
> us.
>     regards John Hill

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