[jhb_airlines] Re: JHB Event for 27th November 2008

  • From: "Frank Turley" <frank.turley1@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <jhb_airlines@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2008 16:01:23 -0000

OK Bones, I'll have to assume I wasn't booted off by the controller, but the 
IVAO software. Lets hope its a one-off.

Frank T.
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Bones 
  To: jhb_airlines@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2008 3:21 PM
  Subject: [jhb_airlines] Re: JHB Event for 27th November 2008


  Anyone rated Instructor or higher.

   

  I would be very surprised if you got deliberately kicked from the system. 
Asking a pilot to amend the flight plan is a standard request and certainly not 
something that would have been followed so rapidly by a deliberate disconnect. 
However, if you are correct, it wasn't something that most controllers would 
consider. The only real reason for disconnecting a pilot is when they fly with 
complete disregard to ATC and interfere with the enjoyment of other pilots - 
like straying onto final approach and causing other pilots to abort their 
approaches. 

   

  bones

  bones@xxxxxxx

  http://woodair.net

   

  From: jhb_airlines-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
[mailto:jhb_airlines-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Frank Turley
  Sent: 22 November 2008 15:06
  To: jhb_airlines@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  Subject: [jhb_airlines] Re: JHB Event for 27th November 2008

   

  Hi Bones,

   

  Thanks for the info., in future I will use the ZZZZ codes.

   

  What would be an "I" rated supervisor?

   

  Frank T.

    ----- Original Message ----- 

    From: Bones 

    To: jhb_airlines@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 

    Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2008 2:18 PM

    Subject: [jhb_airlines] Re: JHB Event for 27th November 2008

     

    Only an "I" rated supervisor can chop you from the network - ordinary 
controllers cannot.

     

    bones

    bones@xxxxxxx

    http://woodair.net

     

    From: jhb_airlines-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
[mailto:jhb_airlines-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Phil Reynolds
    Sent: 22 November 2008 10:59
    To: jhb_airlines@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
    Subject: [jhb_airlines] Re: JHB Event for 27th November 2008

     

    Hi Frank,

     

    I would be concerned if a controller did disconnect you. Do you know who it 
was? People are still reporting problems with the network/new clients so it may 
have been a software glitch rather than being kicked off...but maybe not.

     

    Phil

     

    From: jhb_airlines-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
[mailto:jhb_airlines-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Frank Turley
    Sent: 22 November 2008 09:39
    To: jhb_airlines@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
    Subject: [jhb_airlines] Re: JHB Event for 27th November 2008

     

    Hi Phil,

     

    You are correct, I can find it in the flight planner but not in the MTL

     

    I am very unhappy with IVAO at the moment. This morning I was happily 
flying VFR between farm strips, when a controller logged into Manchester. I was 
asked to contact him, I responded by voice, but the only response was first a 
warning message that my flightplan was invalid, because the start and end 
points were not valid ICAO codes, and then I got disconnected, without any 
other contact. If controllers are allowed to do that then I'm not prepared to 
put up with it. If IVAO can only accept ICAO codes then its not the vehicle for 
farm strip flying.

     

    Frank T.

     

    ----- Original Message ----- 

      From: Phil Reynolds 

      To: jhb_airlines@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 

      Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2008 8:23 AM

      Subject: [jhb_airlines] Re: JHB Event for 27th November 2008

       

      Hi Frank,

       

      All filters are cleared and I've got a full list (including installed 
models). B06 just doesn't appear. I wonder how it got installed?

       

      On a similar note I seem to recall posts on the IVAO forums from FSX heli 
users where they are not visible to other people in FS. I wonder if it's 
because this model is missing from their installations?

       

      Phil

       

      From: jhb_airlines-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
[mailto:jhb_airlines-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Frank Turley
      Sent: 22 November 2008 07:48
      To: jhb_airlines@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
      Subject: [jhb_airlines] Re: JHB Event for 27th November 2008

       

      Er......check the installer filter settings, you may have it set to list 
the ones you haven't got.

       

      Frank T.

        ----- Original Message ----- 

        From: Phil Reynolds 

        To: jhb_airlines@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 

        Sent: Friday, November 21, 2008 9:03 PM

        Subject: [jhb_airlines] Re: JHB Event for 27th November 2008

         

        Same here, really strange. I can browse to the MTL install folder and 
the B06 model does exist? So why doesn't it show in the MTL installer?

         

        Phil

         

        From: jhb_airlines-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
[mailto:jhb_airlines-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Paul Reynolds
        Sent: 21 November 2008 20:26
        To: jhb_airlines@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
        Subject: [jhb_airlines] Re: JHB Event for 27th November 2008

         

        Within my FSX setup of IVAO I've only done a default MTL install (only 
defaults selected in the MTL installer).  When I run the installer now the B06 
does not show up in the list.  Yet if I run FSX and start the IVAO pilot 
client, I can select the B06 in both the aircraft I'm flying and MTL model 
boxes.  Odd!

         

        Paul

         

        From: jhb_airlines-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
[mailto:jhb_airlines-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Phil Reynolds
        Sent: 21 November 2008 19:56
        To: jhb_airlines@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
        Subject: [jhb_airlines] Re: JHB Event for 27th November 2008

         

        Hi,

         

        I have the full MTL installed in FSX and there is a Bell 206 with the 
aircraft code "B06" (with a zero!). Select this in the "Type of aircraft" 
option and away you go. This of course assumes that this MTL a/c has been 
downloaded using the MTL install utility.

         

        Cheers

         

        Phil

         

        From: jhb_airlines-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
[mailto:jhb_airlines-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Paul Reynolds
        Sent: 21 November 2008 09:10
        To: jhb_airlines@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
        Subject: [jhb_airlines] Re: JHB Event for 27th November 2008

         

        There is a difference here between FSX and FS9 MTL libraries.  In FS9 
IVAO includes the Bell Jet Ranger with the aircraft code B06.  I've just looked 
through and cannot see one in the FSX library.  

         

        I would suggest firing a request to the appropriate list on the IVAO 
forum to see if one can be added.  

         

        If not, the FSX MTL library does include a number of rotaries: several 
Eurocopters: the Dauphin AS 365 (listed as AS65); the EC120 (listed as EC20); 
EC 130 (listed as EC30; the 135 (listed as EC35) and 145 (listed asEC45).  
There's also a Bell Cobra (listed as HUCO), Bell UH1 (listed as UH1)  and 
Sikorsky CH124 Sea King (listed as S61).

         

        If you haven't done so for a while, you may need to run your MTL 
Library Updater to ensure you have the models available for selection.

         

        One of these should see you through Frank.

         

        Paul

         

        From: jhb_airlines-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
[mailto:jhb_airlines-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Frank Turley
        Sent: 21 November 2008 08:05
        To: jhb_airlines@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
        Subject: [jhb_airlines] Re: JHB Event for 27th November 2008

         

        Hi John,

         

        I'd like to try flying a Bell 206B from Leeds to Blackpool. I see from 
Pooley's that they both have helipads so I'm assuming that's in order. Are 
there any special rules for helicopter operations in either location please?

         

        I would also appreciate a bit of help with setting up the aircraft in 
the IVAO flight plan. (Previously I'd set this to a PA31 as being the nearest 
thing to my fixed wing choice). I have used the MTL to load up what appears to 
be just about everything, which includes the code AET for a Bell Huey, the 
nearest I could find to the 206B. However, I can't spot the code AET on the 
pull-down list for Type of Aircraft on the flight plan entry screen. There is 
also a a choice of aircraft colour and markings in the supplementary 
information, which I guess also needs selecting. Is there something I have 
missed?

         

        Frank T.

         

          ----- Original Message ----- 

          From: Pentalverjohn@xxxxxxx 

          To: jhb_airlines@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 

          Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 6:09 PM

          Subject: [jhb_airlines] JHB Event for 27th November 2008

           

           Hi All

           

          JHB Airlines welcomes all pilots to this initial round robin event on 
IVAO following earlier popular events on the FPI network.All the details are on 
JHB Airlines website (JHB News),please let us know if you can make it on the 
night.

           

          Regards John Hill 


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