In a message dated 16/12/2005 08:04:05 GMT Standard Time, paul@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx writes: During my brief (few minutes) online at Nice, I heard Alastair being given taxi to parking and Frank cleared to Venice (I believe). I could see neither so there's obviously a gremlin in the system somewhere. Paul, Not being able to see other aircraft is a symptom of a router port (?15,800? - check the number if you have a router) not being opened for the session. Frank T.