But I had opened that port plus 15000, 16000-17000, 16810 & 16830 in every conceivable box I could find - UDP, TCP, UDP&TCP, ICMP, RCMP, BOAC etc! I've now completely dumped Norton on my 'flying PC' and will try and sort it all out in two weeks time. MikeB -----Original Message----- From: jhb_airlines-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jhb_airlines-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of FrankTurley@xxxxxxx Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2006 9:22 AM To: jhb_airlines@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [jhb_airlines] Re: I'll be back! In a message dated 28/09/2006 09:07:46 GMT Daylight Time, pdodds@xxxxxxxxxxxxx writes: Have a good hol Mike, and thanks for your help yesterday afternoon - reassuing to find that voice worked first time out of the box! Like you I have yet to see other aircraft, but that is probably a port forwarding issue in my case. Peter Try opening port 16400 Frank T.