In a message dated 27/08/2007 15:07:25 GMT Daylight Time, bones@xxxxxxx writes: Thanks Frank but Vista is so awful I wouldn't consider installing it. At least in XP you have all the files for a program in one folder. In Vista it separates out the files into different folders and you have to hunt around for the things. You can actually defeat this stupid security system by never accepting the default installation path of the Program Files folder. If you specify a different location Vista gives up and puts all the files into the one folder. Horrible system. bones Its certainly different............ Frank T.