A neat summary of the new book just out "The Social Structure of the English Speaking Peoples" by G. Winskill, in line for this years Nobel prize for philosophy. <g> The problem with every system/structure is that there are advantages and disadavantages, and often the disadvantages get given too much weight. For example we try to alleviate poverty and suffering, but only succeed in shifting it to another set of parameters. I was deprived as a boy because I only got one present at Christmas, had hardly any pocket money and was caned at school. Today children who are deprived are deprived because they only have one parent. Which is worse? Is indeed either perceived to be worse by the "victim"? Peter