[jhb_airlines] Re: IFC

  • From: "Bones" <bones@xxxxxxx>
  • To: <jhb_airlines@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2006 19:22:00 -0000

"I don't really understand why people feel they are better than others,
because to be honest, there are very few people who deserve to consider
themselves as 'superior' beings (I'm talking doctors, firefighters,
nurses (as I'm told by my fiancee) etc"

Dangerous waters here. Harold Shipman really believed he was a superior

When us riff raff started getting eddication a hundred years or so back it
changed things. Prior to that education was for higher classes and so it got
lumped in with everything else they had to learn - how to hold a knife and
fork, ride a horse, learn Greek, behave at the local ball and spear a pig
(or a local wench). For the rest of us the posh stuff got thrown out of the
syllabus and it was just the book learning that was shoved into our skulls.
Some of us were intelligent and thrived on this.

This saw the beginning of the professional classes - which could be
considered as intelligent but without the breeding. Subtle distinction and
possibly one that should have been spotted years ago. Early professionals
were indeed that - professional in work and also in outlook (Capt Mainwaring
in Dad's Army illustrated this perfectly). This has eroded as industry has
evolved, with the accent on intelligence to do the job well and little
consideration as to making the person professional in appearance and in
behaviour. This opens cracks...

We now have people in professional jobs who are absolute plonkers. Shipman
was one, someone who threw a fuse when he realised his power over life and
death. OK - he was exceptional as he was a nutter - but hands up anyone here
who knows a professional who, outside his job, is someone to avoid at all
costs? I've known some very odd pilots in my time, guys who are brilliant at
landing an airliner in a 60kt gale with half a wing missing but who are
totally inept the second they step out of the cockpit. Three I knew are in
jail, one tried to fake his own death by ditching an aircraft, hoping to
claim off the insurance. He's still missing but no-one knows if he survived
the ditching or not...

That's the problem with intelligence. It's very handy to have but it's not
balanced unless there are ethics, common decency and a sense or right and
wrong wrapped up with it. Without those we create monsters.


-----Original Message-----
From: jhb_airlines-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:jhb_airlines-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Andy Berry
Sent: 05 December 2006 18:25
To: jhb_airlines@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [jhb_airlines] Re: IFC

Students... think they know everything! With conversations rarely
altering from beer and more beer

As a bus driver, I am quite happy to have a conversation with anyone who
talks to me - the only thing we ask in that is that you do stay behind
us (you wouldn't believe the number of people who don't realise that
standing at the side of you means you can't see that all important left

As for class these days - it is a different sort of class, rather than
Lower, Middle, Working Middle and Upper, people seem to be split into 2
simple classes - those with money, and those without it. And
unfortunately, as a bus driver, we are generally considered by people to
be scum who are out to ruin everyones day by making them stand there for
hours waiting for another bus to turn up... Last wednesday, upon leaving
Derby, I had to pick up a rather large number of Derby County FC
supporters, there were around 45-50 of them, along with about 20 others
- hence basically filling the 72 person bus and making me approximately
10 minutes late. After driving about 5 minutes down the road, I was
still really busy and slightly later (around 12-13 minutes), when I
pulled up at a stop to pick up a gentleman who I guess was in his late
40's / early 50's. A person who in the day I would of driven past
because my bus was basically full, but instead of making him wait half
an hour for the next one, I decided to stop. As soon as I open the
doors, Derby supporters practically falling out because there's no room,
he pipes up 'Why are you so f'ing late? Traffic jam or just finishing
your coffee?' - now I'm pretty sure that he could see the full bus, and
the GPS tracking system installed at that bus stop has kept him informed
of exactly how long I was going to be so I decided it was necessary to
reply 'I finished my coffee and loved every drop of it' and immediately
closed the doors and drove off without picking him up.

I don't really understand why people feel they are better than others,
because to be honest, there are very few people who deserve to consider
themselves as 'superior' beings (I'm talking doctors, firefighters,
nurses (as I'm told by my fiancee) etc - people who make a real
difference) and these people generally (I know some are idiots) are just
like you and me (not you Alex, students are defenitely inferior beings
:P). And generally, it tends to be those who have worked hard for their
money and only gotten to where they are by taking the initiative and
working (not those who win the lottery or something like that).

As mentioined by Alex, accent can play a big role in how people view you
- I have an accent that is local to Nottinghamshire, however if I was
overheard having a conversation with somebody with perhaps a strong
Brummy accent, many people would instantly expect me to be the more
intelligent of the two simply based on accent. (Yes before anyone says
it, they obviously don't know me!)

The other thing I've noticed at my work is ageism - if somebody wants to
find information about a bus and there is me and an older driver, people
will always ask him first, as they assume they will know more and be
more experienced, where as frequently, I'm the one who knows the answer
as I've been in the job nearly 3 years compared to 3 months with a lot
of our older drivers (we've had a large surge of them recently)


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