[jhb_airlines] Re: ICR3

  • From: Kevin Townsend <kev@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: jhb_airlines@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Sun, 07 Nov 2004 13:36:40 +0000

Yes Andy Medley

Sat it yesterday, passed with 95% (I'd like to know which one I got wrong!)
Apparently It may take up to 4 days before I can log on and control.

I chatted with another guy observing last Friday (Ian Williams of St 
Mawgham) and we agreed to give each other a little practice on Monday 
morning - If time allows and things are quiet it would be nice to be 
involved with yours on Monday afternoon, if you're up to it!

Best wishes


At 14:35 11/6/2004, you wrote:
>Hi Kev,
>Zooming in and out isn't a problem - that works fine. Panning doesn't work
>because the Intellipoint software has allocated the middle button to switch
>between programs (effectively ALT + TAB). Unfortunately the mouse software
>doesn't have a "middle click" option so I am going to have to play around
>with it. I might post an email on the FPI forum to see if anyone else has
>hit this snag.
>Good luck with your exam. Do you know who is examining you?
>-----Original Message-----
>From: jhb_airlines-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>[mailto:jhb_airlines-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Kevin Townsend
>Sent: 06 November 2004 12:47
>To: jhb_airlines@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Subject: [jhb_airlines] Re: ICR3=20
>Hi John
>I have loaded the v3 ATC software onto my Internet machine, so both =
>and controlling will be on different machines - I have put in for my=20
>trainee exam btw.
>I have the Taskbar visible so this doesn't pose a problem as long as you =
>have the airport window in "bring to front mode, you can lose it by=20
>clicking outside it and bring it back up from the Taskbar. Easier for=20
>checking ServInfo too.
>I am using a Micro$oft mouse with wheel, as long as you click in the =
>you want to zoom, you just do it with the wheel - in or out. If you hold =
>down the wheel you can "Pan" the view around too, much like 3D Max. Did =
>also know you can change left for right buttons? It's an option in the=20
>setup pages!
>All FPI pilots should know that the Base Pack of Aircraft (as well as =
>JHB liveried ones) have been updated to v2.2 so will not work with the =
>software, so it's a major download I'm afraid.
>I look forward to joining the session.
>Best wishes
>At 04:24 11/6/2004, you wrote:
> >I cleared out all my FPI files and have started again with the new=20
> >software. The zapping of both the ATOC (aircraft) and the ICR3 (ATC)=20
> >systems was really long overdue as I seemed to have duplicated files=20
> >everywhere. I think the ATC and aircraft files all need to sit in the=20
> >same folder structure and mine were not. Bad news was that after the=20
> >uninstall I still found loads of ATOC registry values that needed=20
> >clearing out manually - maybe this is one reason why reinstalls=20
> >sometimes throw up problems.
> >
> >The new ATC software went in fine and is now running despite attempts=20
> >by my XP firewall to block it. Eventually I got this sorted and had a=20
> >quick chat with a German pilot flying an Eastern Jetstream up to=20
> >Prestwick. The voice module was fine and I note it is now identical to=20
> >the ATOC voice software - they were separate modules in the past but,=20
> >oddly, if you had ATOC as well as ICR on your system they would both=20
> >load up the pilot voice module..
> >
> >The new radar screen is totally different to the old one. Good news is=20
> >that they have finally moved from Mercator projection to a gnomonic=20
> >projection and we have lost the distortions produced by the former at=20
> >higher latitudes. The radar also boots up in full screen mode without=20
> >any comms or flight strip boxes to clutter the display - these now=20
> >being popups on demand. Personally I can't work without flight strips - =
> >it's too engrained in my behavioural patterns to change - so I will=20
> >have to tuck these away in a corner somewhere. The strips themselves=20
> >are much smaller than before but still contain the data of the earlier=20
> >software.
> >
> >One thing that may be a problem is the default full screen mode of ICR. =
> >You can't change this to windowed mode - it is either full screen or=20
> >minimised. This is going to make access to other software like ServInfo =
> >or ATCA difficult for people like me who auto hide the Taskbar.
> >
> >One more significant issue is that the left mouse button now controls=20
> >the ICR options menu. In the earlier software a double click of this=20
> >button would centre the radar screen on the mouse position - one reason =
> >why I could control aircraft across large areas of the UK. It was very=20
> >quick to shift the screen to anywhere in the European region by this=20
> >method and it looks like we have lost this function. The new software=20
> >seems to lock the screen centred on the selected start up airfield and=20
> >I can't see an easy way to relocate. Mind you I haven't even looked at=20
> >the manual yet so this feature may be hidden away somewhere. It's=20
> >available through the menu system but this is too slow because it=20
> >reloads the whole sector file first.
> >
> >The new software actually looks less like a real radar than the earlier =
> >version but I think FPI have got this right. It is much more suitable=20
> >for PC use and the developers have made a good decision here to stop=20
> >trying to emulate real radar screens.
> >
> >I'd like to give the software a real test so, if I am up to it, I'll=20
> >try and log on sometime soon - I'll let you know when. I can't say how=20
> >long for as it will be dictated by my energy levels but I'd hope to=20
> >stay online for at least an hour. I'll open up at Ronaldsway purely for =
> >the fact that I don't have to think about procedures - I can still do=20
> >them in my sleep
> >
> >Next job will be to reinstall all the ATOC pilot software again. I've=20
> >finally got the new ATOC base pack file - both previous attempts failed =
> >with about 5% of the 140Mb file left to go. It's always the way..
> >
> >HC@xxxxxxxxxx
> >http://fsaviation.net

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