It's a good idea Gerry but you would need a set of gauges really. = Something that could measure the 156,000kg weight of a Boeing isn't going to be accurate in showing the weight of a C150 at 750kg.. Actually I've just had a thought. If the gauge could be calibrated to = each aircraft's AUW (which is in the aircraft.cfg file) then it could indeed = be made to suit every aircraft. This is assuming a needle type gauge as = opposed to a digital readout. A digital readout shouldn't be a problem in terms of calculation. It = would only be necessary to take the aircraft empty weight and add the fuel = weight plus the cargo/passenger/crew weights. All of these are in the = aircraft.cfg file. The fancy bit about creating the readout in XML is well beyond me though.. Having got the weight and the known stall speed (both flaps up and down) = you can calculate some of the speeds. Approach speed is generally taken as = stall speed x 1.25 and so you could use a simple formula here of actual = weight/AUW x Stall speed x 1.25 to work out the approach speed for all weights. At = All Up Weight (or MTOW - Maximum Take off Weight) the figure is simply the published stall speed x 1.25 but you will find a drastic reduction in = speed as weights reduce. V1, Vr and V2 are more complex to calculate as they are also determined = by temp and airfield elevation (density altitude) and runway length may = also become a factor. It is more common these days for airliners to have take = off power determined by the above factors and the aircraft perform a reduced power take off rather than use full power. If you can't get any data to = work out these speeds you can always aim for a safe setting and make Vr =3D = stall speed for the actual aircraft weight.. bones bones -----Original Message----- From: jhb_airlines-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jhb_airlines-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of gwinsk@xxxxxxx Sent: 17 December 2004 18:34 To: jhb_airlines@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [jhb_airlines] Re: Gross Weight As we try to get nearer to some aspects of real life practice, selecting = the appropriate V=20 speeds, rather than a singe FS9, value, seems appropriate. For some of the available aircraft we have tables of gross weight and V speeds. The=20 Falcon 50 has a gauge that displays current weight, so that correct = figures may be=20 chosen, before takeoff and landing approach. Rather than have to go into = the FS9 menu=20 for current weight, on other a/c, does anyone know of a gauge that can display this=20 data? The Falcon gauge is specific to that aircraft. Gerry Winskill gwinsk@xxxxxxx