[jhb_airlines] Re: Flying the chopper in FS

  • From: franklyn fisher <ff006c5886@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: jhb_airlines@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2006 17:20:39 +0000

My message reads that the Gazelle 'thinks' it has wheels, ie when landing, with any form of horizontal movement, particularly forward or back, the chopper just skids along until it stops.
You have to hit the deck with zero movement, even then it slides a tad.
The Bell and most other choppers with skids  stop dead.
I have the FS2002 and FS2004 versions and they both do the same.
And the Wessex and Chinook can be landed with zero movement .

Bones wrote:
Frank's right in that anyone seriously looking at flying helicopters should
run through the HoverControl lessons. Second is that there isn't much point
in trying a chopper if you have bum frame rates - the theoretical 26fps is
useless as you need as much as you can get. Once you are in the hover the
rate of displacement becomes critical and you need to correct it before it
develops. Only high fps will help you here.

I'm puzzled that the Gazelle has wheels - I thought it only came on skids.
Choopers with wheels are slightly easier to land as they don't have the
Bell's propensity to tip over if landing with a slight amount of drift -
something the B206 does all too easily. I'll admit I never tried the R22 in
FS2004 and I should as it has a far lighter mass than the B206 but quite a
lot of inertia. It will be interesting to see if this makes it harder or
easier to fly.

Real helicopters are a lot easier to fly. <g>


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Sent: 11 November 2006 12:05
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Subject: [jhb_airlines] Re: Flying the chopper in FS

On the flightsim.com site. There is a very good article on flying
helicopters, in the 'How To' series, by Dan Morand.
He has also put a file in the library called 'helihelp.zip'.
I myself love heli flying, and have signed up to Hovercontrol.com, must
admit to not being active there.
I also have the Thrustmaster Topgun Afterburner flight stick combo, the
cheap version of the Saitak X45. The only way to fly Helis.
Now that I have uprated my video card from an ATI 9600Pro AGP to an ATI
X1650 Pro AGP ( the 9600 is now looking for a good home) , the Bell
Jetranger is a piece of cake to fly.
I understand, that FSX has had the Heli simulation uprated as well, to
be more realistic.
I too have used the the HUD upgrade, but until uprating the video, it
has been of little use with the Bell.
The Hovercontrol site has an vast range of helis for down load, altho
the Gazelle is difficult to master, it thinks it has wheels but no
brakes, and if you have anything less than stable hover, your landing
will skate across the landscape.
I can recommend downloading the Hovercontrol training scenery(FS8/9) I flew
from Valley to IOM on Tuesday evening , in the Bell, and made a
peachy landing on the apron, Bones was on APP at the time. Frank F

Kev Townsend wrote:
Having purchased Visual Flight's latest masterpiece Farnborough,
Thanks Carl and Mally!

I have been discovering the treasures (like cones and pallets leaning
against a hangar wall) flying the Jet Ranger....
I have the Saitek X45 setup and am using the incredible HUD from Steve
Hanley - This comes with a fantastic Hover Training module which
really brings flying rotary aircraft home!
After just a few days I am able to achieve a hover albeit in 10 second

Researching the phenomena I came across this which I urge anyone with
an inkling for choppers to read! (or anyone who needs a chuckle)


Happy Landings

Kev T

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