Alex - Right. Grant & Stefan are in the 'Express By Holiday Inn' (stupid name) which is in the Birmingham suburb of Hall Green and on the main A34 Stratford to Birmingham road. (Actually not a million miles from where I live!). They will need to drive South on the A34, join the M42 heading North (left) at Junction 4 and should then leave the M42 at J6 for the NEC (well signposted). Easy, peasy. You, unfortunately, are really in the sticks! Your hotel is near Junction 2 on the M5, some 25 miles from the NEC. You'll need to drive South on M5 to Junction 4A, then North (left) onto M42 until you also reach J6 for the NEC. Alternatively, you could try going North on the M5 from J2 to the M5/M6 interchange (M5 J8/M6 J8) and then head South on M6 to join M42 at J4A then M42 South to J6 - but I wouldn't recommend it! Although I won't be able to help at all in the way of transport please contact me off-list if I can help in any other way. On a serious note, have you tried changing your reservation to the Hall Green hotel? It would be SO much more convenient... MikeB -----Original Message----- From: jhb_airlines-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jhb_airlines-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Alex - Reheat.org Sent: Friday, November 24, 2006 2:28 PM To: jhb_airlines@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [jhb_airlines] Re: Flight Sim show - Birmingham The holiday in express south hall green, I'm at the Oldbury one meself, going to be a nice drive round the M5 and M42 every morning at 6am! whooo...the things we do for this hobby eh? Mike Brook wrote: Where are they booked into, Alex? MikeB -----Original Message----- From: jhb_airlines-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jhb_airlines-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Alex - Reheat.org Sent: Friday, November 24, 2006 2:05 PM To: jhb_airlines@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [jhb_airlines] Re: Flight Sim show - Birmingham I'm going Friday, Sat, Sunday with Grant and Stefan. Unfortunately they have decided to stay at a hotel a good 7 motorway junctions away.... its gonna be fun! Alex Mike Brook wrote: Mike - The A45 will probably be a nightmare. The M42 should still be your best bet despite the expected high volume of traffic. The flow is usually reasonably well controlled and, providing that you are patient, you should find it marginally less stressful. Remember to take the sleeping bag, warm blanket and flask of coffee <G>. Your Rugby suggestion may well be feasible but the extra cost is probably not worth it. Have you considered a helicopter and an abseil rope...?