Yep - always specify a size for the gauge in the panel as it helps a lot debugging later. The other trick is to substitute your dial for an existing one because that way you know where it will appear on the screen - you don't have to hunt around for it. By doing this you would also confirm if the fault is with the panel.cfg or in the XML code. bones -----Original Message----- From: jhb_airlines-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jhb_airlines-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of FrankTurley@xxxxxxx Sent: 18 October 2006 20:59 To: jhb_airlines@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [jhb_airlines] Re: FSX - XML Gauges In a message dated 18/10/2006 20:37:26 GMT Daylight Time, bones@xxxxxxx writes: OK - just shout if you need help. bones Thanks. I've discovered that its wiser for the panel files to include the gauge size parameters, otherwise the gauges seem to be chopped to an arbitary length, or maybe its me! I now have a test panel with the old format XML gauge working, the sample gauge supplied with the SDK working, but my gauge refuses to show itself. Tomorrow I plan to create a simple gauge with one text element that displays the word "Test". If I can crack that it might give me a clue where mine is falling down. I promise that if I can't crack it myself I'll send you a copy to look at before I jump out of the window! Frank T.