In a message dated 30/10/2006 11:02:21 GMT Standard Time, pdodds@xxxxxxxxxxxxx writes: There may be better tools than ACE already out there - I've not looked at ACE and probably won't. I use Panel Design Studio which is really good. There is a good set of tutorials by Nick Pike, and a more rarified one by Art Bartels. Easily found by Googling. Peter, I read the tutorrials, but again that was raw XML stuff. Panel Design Studio is ok, I think I used its forebear on an earlier FS version when it was freeware, not sure if they've revised it for FSX though. Frank T.