Another Gotcha when working with the ACE development tool - I've found it inserts default stuff in spite of you editing it out previously, e.g. - I inserted a Select, followed by 3 Case statements 1st case was set to a Nil result 2nd case was set to a 100 result 3rd case was anything else With the 3rd case, it works if you completely remove the conditional properties and save, the resultant XML gives you a Case Else effect. However, if you re-edit the gauge, ACE sticks the default properties back in, without you knowing. Nasty! Frank T.