[jhb_airlines] Re: FPI Drama

  • From: "Bones" <bones@xxxxxxx>
  • To: <jhb_airlines@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2005 13:23:54 +0100

I'll chase this up.
If such rules exist then we have to know where they are to avoid such
problems in the future. 
The same applies to use of 7600 and 7700 also. If these also have attached
code of practise then we need to know what they are.

-----Original Message-----
From: jhb_airlines-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:jhb_airlines-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Kev Townsend
Sent: 10 October 2005 10:05
To: jhb_airlines@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [jhb_airlines] Re: FPI Drama

I too could not find any reference to reporting procedure on the site...

There was NO notification from the providers, just an email from the UK-Rep,
I have not heard the fate of the pilot (Real - 4000hrs in the Logbook)
I have been re-instated, following my report: Which I copy here.....


I'm happy to give an account now and will start with Trevor's email to me in

>What a job!  That was very smooth, Sir Kevin!  And with a very cool ?plum
in cheek?!   I had actually started a flight plan from Sydney to Bangkok,
but  I saw you guys on Servinfo (Now that I got it!), >so I decided to make
a short flight.  Then my wife tried to hijack me to search for some bloody
mouse that was running around in her room!  7500 was the only cry for help I
could make?..!

>Thanks again, I hope the Aussies kept you busy, I promise not to be so
naughty next time!

>Kind regards,
>Trevor down under

Controller Kevin Townsend 506720

I was operating as Sydney Approach (YSSY_APP), there had been 6 or 8
movements when a 747 outbound to Hobart squawked 7500 and requested
immediate return to Sydney.
The aircraft was at that time over the Ocean approximately 80 miles away.
I vectored the aircraft into a left hand return toward Sydney maintaining
safe distance from the Coastline.
Authorizing Fuel jettison to allow landing weights to be achieved, I
instructed the pilot to enter into the FMC a Frequency and Heading, without
advising my intention.
At this time the crew were alone on the flight deck, however attempts were
being made to access the locked flightdeck door at this time.
I avoided undue radio communication with the aircraft in question, whilst
continuing my duties as APProach for the remaining aircraft in my sector.
Most other flights were Melbourne bound and I remember handing those early
to Melbourne Approach.
I vectored the aircraft to the left on a straight in approach to the ILS for
RWY 28 at Richmond Military Airfield (YSRI ) 28 miles NW of Sydney, the
frequency I had given to the pilot earlier - 110.70/275
The aircraft failed to capture the ILS at first attempt as his descent was
too shallow, I had tried to keep the aircraft high to make use of any cloud
to maximise surprise.
I vectored the aircraft in a right hand pattern to re-capture and a safe
landing was achieved.
Necessary Authorities had been advised and the situation was relieved on the

AIrcraft PMDG 747 400
Original Flightplan YMHB (Hobart)
Time: Approx 1300z
Pilot Trevor Meacham 

I believe I acted within my capacity, safely and with diligence.
The pilot fully complied with every instruction professionally in a
difficult situation.

Kevin Townsend
A true and accurate account of this incident.

They eventually caught the mouse! :-)


Regards to all

Kev T

At 16:39 10/8/2005, you wrote:

I cannot see any reference in the rules to any emergency procedures. If
these exist at all then FPI should at least have notified you of these when
declaring your suspension. In fact they should have included the relevant
paragraph(s) in the email as a reference to the rule that had been

It's sad that they are so hard on enforcement when the system is virtually
empty of pilots and controllers. Saturday afternoon with no controllers and
only seven pilots online should be giving them a strong clue that something
is wrong..


-----Original Message-----
From: jhb_airlines-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[  <mailto:jhb_airlines-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
mailto:jhb_airlines-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Kev Townsend
Sent: 08 October 2005 14:39
To: jhb_airlines@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [jhb_airlines] Re: FPI Drama


Whilst controlling Sydney approach he other morning the pilot of a 747
dialled 7500 onto his transponder.
He was about 80miles south of Sydney. I vectored him blind to an AAF Base
26 miles to the North.
I felt this was an exciting and demanding exercise.
FPI did not.
They have banned from the Network the offending Pilot, and I have been
suspended pending enquiry.
It appears that as in the real world I must make a full and detailed
account (which I have now done).
The pilot (Australian) declared this emergency as he needed to curtail the
flight as his wife had discovered a mouse in the bedroom. Well, what other
course of action would you take if the cabin crew began screaming!!!

Just a word of caution to anyone who may consider a simulated emergency!

Has anyone ever seen a rule within FPI about this rule? If so, I would
appreciate a pointer!

Best wishes

Kev T
JHB175 (sus)

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