Thanks Frank. As you have fixed it my discovery isn't of relevance. bones -----Original Message----- From: jhb_airlines-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jhb_airlines-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of FrankTurley@xxxxxxx Sent: 25 August 2005 08:55 To: jhb_airlines@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [jhb_airlines] Re: FPI In a message dated 25/08/2005 08:01:11 GMT Daylight Time, bones@xxxxxxx writes: Can I ask which pilots never see other aircraft in ATOC sessions? bones Bones, I had this problem when I installed my router, solved with the help of Tony Pick. You have to open a port ?15,400? in the router, and voila. Frank T.