In a message dated 30/12/2004 18:03:35 GMT Standard Time, mhlucas@xxxxxxxxxxxx writes: Frank You have described precisely the problem which I encountered when I installed Gary's scenery alongside John's. I have retained John's scenery and disabled the 5 EGNS bgl files in Gary's. Mike Mike, Yes they certainly conflict. It would be nice to install Garry's parking marshall into John's IOM, but its too much for my small brain I'm afraid. Frank T.