In a message dated 12/11/2004 12:21:30 GMT Standard Time, pdodds@xxxxxxxxxxxx writes: There's a piccie at http:/ve-2.com on the News page. Almost all the new gauges are contained in a CAB file. I think if you just had those, they might not fit the default panel very well, particularly as they have a red background colour, not grey. Peter, Thanks for that, I've downloaded the panel, I have my own custom 172 panel, so interested to see what yours has. Frank T.