[jhb_airlines] Re: B350

  • From: Gerry Winskill <gwinsk@xxxxxxx>
  • To: jhb_airlines@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 20:55:22 +0100

I agree. It's not possible to generalise on how "pilots" fly. I haven't a clue how any other pilot on line at the same time as me is handling his controls. In the last two days I've been asked to solve the non appearance of cooling towers, for two users of ANO UK FSX. One flies at Sherburn, where they've formed a flightsim section. The second, having had his scenery sorted, said the weather had just cleared and he was off to take up the Cherokee, in which he has a tenth share. I've had a surprising number of RW pilots contact me re farms etc, often sending much appreciated shots of the real strips; on approach. I assume they all try to fly realistically in FSX.

Tom, sorry for the delay in agreeing with you but I've just got back from the Hairpin, watching practicing. If that's irksome, it gets worse. This year there's an MV 3 in the Senior Classic. Marvellous sound. Thought you'd like to know that.

Ducks rapidly behind the furniture.

Gerry Winskill

tom smith wrote:
not all fly like that
----- Original Message ----- From: "Bones" <bones@xxxxxxx>
To: <jhb_airlines@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 4:27 AM
Subject: [jhb_airlines] Re: B350

Descent is just a matter of adjusting the power lever to maintain 250kts on the drop. Any descent in a turboprop is planned well in advance because if you leave it too late you won't get the height off in time. In FS you can't damage engines and so pilots don't learn this finesse - power levers can be abused to silly degrees. Because you can slam the power shut and drop like a
brick there's no incentive to do it properly and keep ITT's within
recommended values.

The same problem exists with pistons in that many pilots will firewall the throttle on take off and leave it there for the rest of the trip. Prop and
Mixture controls won't be adjusted at all. In FS this does no harm at all
but in real life you would be looking at $25,000 for a new engine very
quickly and be rich enough to burn 150lph or more when you could safely be
flying at 100lph.

This is the lack of reality in FS. In real life we can't afford to fly
around with full mixture all the time and we dread overstressing the engine for fear of a huge bill from the maintenance organisation. We throttle back on take off and bring props back too - and are fastidious in making sure we don't get "over square" with these levers. That is to say we make sure the manifold pressure isn't greater than prop rpm. For example on the Aztec we can bring power back to 22" and 2200rpm for an economical cruise. We could
also use 22"/2300rpm without worries - but if I set 22"/2100rpm it would
stress the engine as you are trying to force a lot of power into a draggy

FS is totally impervious to these sort of misuses and this is a pity because
it stops you from becoming more aware and better pilots.


-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:jhb_airlines-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of F FISHER
Sent: 19 August 2008 21:21
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Subject: [jhb_airlines] B350


The info you have been sending for climb and cruise, non for descent.

Am assuming reverse of climb with power right back.

Frank F

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