[jhb_airlines] Re: Aztec panel

  • From: "Bones" <bones@xxxxxxx>
  • To: <jhb_airlines@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2005 03:01:51 +0100

Sounds odd because I seem to be able to open CAB's just using Explorer..


-----Original Message-----
From: jhb_airlines-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:jhb_airlines-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Gerry Winskill
Sent: 26 July 2005 21:45
To: jhb_airlines@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [jhb_airlines] Re: Aztec panel

I jest. Unless you'd like a passing opinion, I can wait until you've

My efforts on gauge design have ground to a halt. Even if unzipping a
.cab file to an empty folder, I'm asked if I wish to replace the
existing version. I'll try a reinstal of Cabarc.

Gerry Winskill

Bones wrote:

>You are indeed right - it really is a matter of personal gratification.
>It's the first time ever in FS that we can actually get at gauge
>manipulation so the temptation to really is strong to make a panel as
>close to reality as possible.
>It's daft I know but even the Suction gauge used by Fred is not quite
>the same as in G-CALL and so I get an urge to replace the bitmap. As
>his are old GAU files it also means I have to write the XML code but
>that really is a doddle for passive instruments. Trouble here is that
>I'm tempted to get the two red lights operational to show that suction
>for either engine has failed.
>I could send you the panel right now but you would have to put up with
>its incomplete state. I think the errors would be:
>1. No radios work so you'd have to use your Go Flight units for these.
>2. No HSI as I have used the FSD Panther Navajo for now (you could
>3. Same for the EGT gauge.
>4. Fuel tank selector only goes from off to right aux - I don't know
>why yet. Leave alone. 5. Flap lever bitmap is weird but flaps work OK.
>6. Magnetos for Eng1 and Eng2 work differently because I'm still playing
>with code. I suspect you can't have two mag switches for each engine but am
>still playing. These can be overridden by the usual M++
>All the rest seem to work OK.
>The zip is 900k if you want it.
>-----Original Message-----
>From: jhb_airlines-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>[mailto:jhb_airlines-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Gerry Winskill
>Sent: 26 July 2005 20:22
>To: jhb_airlines@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Subject: [jhb_airlines] Re: Aztec panel
>For your own satisfaction' cos that's the main reason for doing any
>design work. That probably will drive you to do both.As you know, I'm
>not into individual gauge design. I am, and have been for years, an
>incorrigible panel meddler. Recently, motivated by GA magazines'
>reporting of current avionics developments, I've started further to
>modify the panels that have so far kept me happy. The move to glass
>cockpits seems irreversible, even in GA. Since the cost of doing it in
>FS is zilch, it's almost a case of having to justify not going that
>way. The one regret I have is that the steam instruments of my
>erstwhile favourite panel sat in a very Jaguarish walnut veneer panel.
>Removing analogue instruments left indentations, where the panel had
>been recessed for them. I've had to redo the surface and, since piecing
>together, stretching, etc, veneer makes it look very unrealistic, I've
>had to switch to a metal background. Very sad, but then, "you can't get
>the wood, you know" isn't a new problem.
>So, when will we all be able to get our grubby little hands on what is
>now to be a pair of new panels?
>Gerry Winskill
>Bones wrote:
>>I think I am going to scream...
>>Having got well on with the panel rebuilt for the Aztec I was stuck at
>>a couple of engine gauges because I had no decent pictures of them.
>>G-CALL has been away for two months on sub charter to OS in N. Ireland
>>so I wasn't able to remedy this - but I got impatient last night and
>>rang John to see when it was coming back. What he told me made me
>>I've know G-CALL since it was new (30+ years) and I've flown the
>>aircraft for a fair bit of that time. It's hardly changed in that
>>period - just a couple of replacement radio's and that was it.  The
>>panel rebuild was therefore based on my intimate knowledge of the
>>aircraft. But it has now all changed..
>>All the old Collins kit is gone and in its place are new slimline
>>Garmin NAV/COM units, a King KMD150 GPS and a Filser Transponder. I've
>>already got pictures of these units and have made a mock up of the new
>>panel - see my FS page for screenshots.
>>I'm now torn. Do I continue with the old panel rebuild or start afresh
>>and make the new one? Or do I make both?
>>The rest of the panel is almost complete. I now have most of the
>>engine gauges finished - seven made in the last week - and the only
>>dial left to do is the EGT gauge. I still have slight code problems
>>with the flap lever, autopilot and fuel selector but I hope I can iron
>>these out without too much trouble.
>>I must admit I have learnt a lot over the last few weeks. Gauge design
>>isn't all that difficult in XML and it brings the art into the laps of
>>those of us with no programming skills - I could never have made an
>>old GAU file in C++. Those dials that just present information like
>>the ASI and fuel gauges, are very easy indeed. Those that interact
>>with mouse click (switches) can also be easy but some are trickier.
>>The flap lever is an example because the default lever runs through a
>>series of linear indents - one position for each flap setting -
>>whereas I am trying to make a spring loaded lever that just has three
>>If anyone is tempted with gauge design then have a go. All you really
>>need is a good paint program and, if you want to zip the dials up into
>>a CAB file, a program like VCAB (this make distribution a lot easier).

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