[jhb_airlines] Re: Another Fine Mess

  • From: "Bones" <bones@xxxxxxx>
  • To: <jhb_airlines@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2006 18:03:07 +0100

Yep - I got my wires crossed.
More here -
All three articles are worth reading.

-----Original Message-----
From: jhb_airlines-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:jhb_airlines-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Alex - Reheat.org
Sent: 29 August 2006 17:46
To: jhb_airlines@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [jhb_airlines] Re: Another Fine Mess

Hate to add confusion to the argument here but I think Bones may be getting
mixed up. 

PCIe, PCI Express and PCI-E are all exactly the same graphics bus. All
designed to do the same job. Some straight out of the box and some as a bolt
on. I can only assume that bones is thinking of PCI-X which IS an entireley
different principle all together! 


Gerry Winskill wrote: 

How do they differ? 

Gerry Winskill 

Bones wrote: 

But PCI-E is a different beast from PCI Express. 

The SLI route certainly looks the most interesting. Matrox used to have a 
system to interconnect two cards and I used this with two Milleniums. It 
was, in some ways, better than any single card I have run since. 


-----Original Message----- 
From: jhb_airlines-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
[mailto:jhb_airlines-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Paul 
Sent: 29 August 2006 16:40 
To: jhb_airlines@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
Subject: [jhb_airlines] Re: Another Fine Mess 

When looking at graphics cards, and in particular PCI-Express mobo's, the 
future is PCI-e SLI (or GLI from some manufacturers). 

The norm at the moment is two cards sharing the load but they are developing

quad systems. 

So you'll want a mobo with 2 PCI-e slots to take advantage of this. Though 
if you're looking at running a PCI-e SLI system the advice is to purchase 
the SLI cards at the same time.  Software /hardware incompatabilities 
between cards is proving to be a real headache so the only way to protect 
yourself is with cards from the same batch. 


-----Original Message----- 
From: jhb_airlines-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
[mailto:jhb_airlines-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of franklyn fisher 
Sent: 29 August 2006 16:23 
To: jhb_airlines@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
Subject: [jhb_airlines] Re: Another Fine Mess 


AGP has already reached it's limit, you would be hard put to find a 
compliant Mobo. 

It's all PCIXpress now. 

As Bones says, it is heading for HDI as well, depends on your needs and 
pocket of course. 

Regards CPU's the new kid on the block is Intel's Conroe Duo2, said to be 
clock for clock faster than AMD, and cooler and quieter than the earlier ill

fated P4s. 

AMD is currently consolidating, and cleaning up the server market, of which 
Intel has lost  a big slice. Their FX and Opteron chips are in demand for 
gaming rigs. I think they are biding thier time and will shortly announce 
their quad chips. 

Intel is in a quandry, they have stakes in ATI video cards, and so do AMD. 
There is going to be a big battle there. And ATI want to use the spare 
capacity at the AMD plants to produce. 

However, that does not solve you current situation. 

As Intel and Microsoft go hand in hand, and if you are a committed Intel 
user. Then that is the route to go. 

By all means go for Dual core/PCIXpress, FSX/Vista will need 4gb Ram. 

For video? how deep is your pocket!! 

Again, look at the use you will be putting it to. 

I am figuring on spending at least £1200 on a complete build next year (I am

keeping my present AMD 64 3200 intact.And that does not include FSX and 

I will look it up, but there is a build shop over in Exeter, which 
specialises in building machines for Flight Sim, they of course will have 
the resources and knowledge. 

Hope this puts a little light at the end of the tunnel? 

Frank F 


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