?My 2 cents here are, try then another program like windows life mail or thunderbird. They are free and work very well with jaws. If you have the money to spare, or are you planning an upgrade, then get outlook. But seriusly, this windows mail thing is just to complicated. It requires to much work and time. Time that you could be trying to learn a new e-mail program. Seriusly, this ain't rocket science. Try something new. This a huge problem I find on the blindness community in general. They want everything the way they first worked with, or learn the thing. Guys, there is progress involved in everything and things must change, for the good or the worse. Theyare other options outthere, and some of them are even better. Just take the time to check them out. You may be surprise to learn you like the new instead of the old. From: Gary King Sent: Monday, January 24, 2011 1:20 PM To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: windows mail David, I'm still not clear about what is meant by "check boxes don't work." Is it that the screen readers can't see them, or is it that their checked or unchecked state can't be changed? If I won't be able to create message rules in Windows Mail on my 64-bit Windows 7 system, that would be a show-stopper for me since I depend on these rules to filter email from several lists into appropriate folders. Gary King w4wkz@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ----- Original Message ----- From: David To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Monday, January 24, 2011 11:02 AM Subject: Re: windows mail Hi Gary; no, the problem is; on windows7 64bit machines, when one sets up windows mail; the check boxes when creating message rules don't work. otherwards, it's almost impossible to create message filters. I've seen this behavior on a few machines now. ----- Original Message ----- From: Gary King To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Monday, January 24, 2011 11:41 AM Subject: Re: windows mail Hi Elf, When you say that the screen readers are refusing to work with check boxes in Windows Mail, do you mean that the screen readers can't detect them at all, or is it that their state can't be changed? In the past, I've seen with Outlook Express that sometimes JAWS didn't automatically read the state of the check box in the Message Rules dialog, but the state could be determined with the JAWS cursor and then changed with the Spacebar. Gary King w4wkz@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ----- Original Message ----- From: The Elf To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Monday, January 24, 2011 1:17 AM Subject: Re: windows mail go to my grab bag website and there is a link for the windows mail in win 7 there, a note I recently found out, if you set this up on a 64 bit machine setting mail rules in windows mail is nearly impossible to do, the check boxes are refusing to work for most of the screen readers in this set up! HTH, elf Moderator, Blind Access Help Owner: Alacorn Computer Enterprises Specialists in customized computers and peripherals - own the might and majesty of a Alacorn! www.alacorncomputer.com proprietor, The Grab Bag, for blind computer users and programmers http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Marty To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Sunday, January 23, 2011 5:33 AM Subject: Re: windows mail Good morning When I go to http://www.sendspace.com/file/jfjvxw I get the following message: Sorry, the file you requested is not available. Possible reasons include: - File date limit has expired. - File was not successfully uploaded. Please contact the uploader and ask them to upload the file again. sendspace is not able to help you in this matter. I have Windows 7 Home Premium and would very much like to use Windows Mail. Is there a new link with the files I would need? Thanks Marty ----- Original Message ----- From: The Elf To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2011 3:43 AM Subject: Re: windows mail hmmm, ok, do you need the one to set it up on windows 7, or a general tutorial on it's use? have sources on both but don't want to spew out more links than needed. and one fault in windows mail I just found out about today! using it on a 64 bit system gives problems with making filters in it. the check boxes are almost entirely inaccessible unfortunately. elf Moderator, Blind Access Help Owner: Alacorn Computer Enterprises Specialists in customized computers and peripherals - own the might and majesty of a Alacorn! www.alacorncomputer.com proprietor, The Grab Bag, for blind computer users and programmers http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Kimsan To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2011 3:04 PM Subject: windows mail Does anyone have the tetorial to set up windows mail? Thanks. Yadiel J. Sotomayor E-MAIL: yadosotomayor@xxxxxxxxxxx