Re: what is best way to learn JAWS and the pc as a total newbie?

  • From: "Dorothy Ingram-Gorban" <dorothy.ingram-gorban@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 21:53:28 -0000





alex and Chris and interested parties.

I think we are talking both about Jaws but also something else. I will close
on the subject after saying one more thing. I was properly assessed before
buying by 2 Organisations, for my first computer, they both knew I needed
black screen they both sent in Estimates for about £3,500 one was a bit
cheaper as they quoted on Omnipage not Kurzweil. I did not just pick a
system outof the blue, I took the Quote from the one with fastest delivery
knowing I soon had to have hospital treatment.  Neither of them had any
qualms about my needs it was all to be configured ready to plug in all
software loaded. I am not being unkind, but those who have no sight are only
too eager to say act as if you are totally blind,turn screen off. No I will
not, I am not going to talk about philosophy. I will say once more I ask for
one thing Just the truth and some honesty. I will say one word really sums it
up, the letter I,it stands for Integrity?Because in my opinion if its not
there it is not worth a candle. Now tomorrow my new Dell computer with the
best components I could buy and a 20 inch Monitor all willbe set up,windows
7 Office 7 Jaws 11,K12 No lunar as I would have to pay a lot more to upgrade
it from Lunar 6,if I cannot bear to look at bright screen I will ask the
Makers of Jaws once more and doubt I will get an answer,why may I not? Back
to letter I. dorothy.

----- Original Message ----- From: "Alex Momence" <alex.midence@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 5:39 PM
Subject: Re: what is best way to learn JAWS and the pc as a total newbie?


Hi, Dorothy,

Sounds to me like Jaws just isn't the screen reader for you any longer.
Have you tried Hal or Window Eyes?  Nothing says you have to only use Jaws
and all the others are bad.  Otherwise, Jaws may just be a speech only
solution for you meaning, use it as if you are totally blind and rely on
it exclusively for finding out what's on the screen.  Then, it wouldn't
really matter if you had the screen on something other than monochrome.
You could just use it in windows classic, no screen savers, ETC. the way a
lot of us do.  If FS said they won't fix it and they won't change it and
there isn't a segment of the market big enough to compel them to change
their tune, that is simply the way the cookie crumbles and it is time to
either adapt and use it as much as it will allow you to in its current
incarnation or, seek out a product that works better for your particular
situation.  I had to do this with Jaws as a matter of fact.  I, too, was a
die hard Jaws fan.  I used shell accounts in the early days of the
internet with a unix platform accessed through a terminal program like
Procom Plus to access the web.  My screen Reader was Mastertouch and I
adored it.  I had to use a completely new set of instructions when I
migrated to Jaws when Windows superceeded DOS the way it did.  Mastertouch
didn't have a windows version so, I had to learn Jaws 3.3.  Railing at the
injustice of it didn't help and neither did wishing they'd make a Windows
version with all my heart.  I had to adapt.  I couldn't have gotten a job
otherwise.  It was time for the buggy driver to learn to use the car if
you know what I mean.  Whatever you do, best of luck to you.

Alex


----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Smart" <chris_s@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2009 6:24 PM
Subject: Re: what is best way to learn JAWS and the pc as a total newbie?


Dorothy, have you considered just using Jaws without the screen as
backup?
Or alternatively, a large print program without Jaws running in the
background?

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