alex and Chris and interested parties. I think we are talking both about Jaws but also something else. I will close on the subject after saying one more thing. I was properly assessed before buying by 2 Organisations, for my first computer, they both knew I needed black screen they both sent in Estimates for about £3,500 one was a bit cheaper as they quoted on Omnipage not Kurzweil. I did not just pick a system outof the blue, I took the Quote from the one with fastest delivery knowing I soon had to have hospital treatment. Neither of them had any qualms about my needs it was all to be configured ready to plug in all software loaded. I am not being unkind, but those who have no sight are only too eager to say act as if you are totally blind,turn screen off. No I will not, I am not going to talk about philosophy. I will say once more I ask forone thing Just the truth and some honesty. I will say one word really sums it
up, the letter I,it stands for Integrity?Because in my opinion if its not there it is not worth a candle. Now tomorrow my new Dell computer with the best components I could buy and a 20 inch Monitor all willbe set up,windows 7 Office 7 Jaws 11,K12 No lunar as I would have to pay a lot more to upgrade it from Lunar 6,if I cannot bear to look at bright screen I will ask the Makers of Jaws once more and doubt I will get an answer,why may I not? Back to letter I. dorothy.----- Original Message ----- From: "Alex Momence" <alex.midence@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 5:39 PM Subject: Re: what is best way to learn JAWS and the pc as a total newbie?
Hi, Dorothy, Sounds to me like Jaws just isn't the screen reader for you any longer. Have you tried Hal or Window Eyes? Nothing says you have to only use Jaws and all the others are bad. Otherwise, Jaws may just be a speech only solution for you meaning, use it as if you are totally blind and rely on it exclusively for finding out what's on the screen. Then, it wouldn't really matter if you had the screen on something other than monochrome. You could just use it in windows classic, no screen savers, ETC. the way a lot of us do. If FS said they won't fix it and they won't change it and there isn't a segment of the market big enough to compel them to change their tune, that is simply the way the cookie crumbles and it is time to either adapt and use it as much as it will allow you to in its current incarnation or, seek out a product that works better for your particular situation. I had to do this with Jaws as a matter of fact. I, too, was a die hard Jaws fan. I used shell accounts in the early days of the internet with a unix platform accessed through a terminal program like Procom Plus to access the web. My screen Reader was Mastertouch and I adored it. I had to use a completely new set of instructions when I migrated to Jaws when Windows superceeded DOS the way it did. Mastertouch didn't have a windows version so, I had to learn Jaws 3.3. Railing at the injustice of it didn't help and neither did wishing they'd make a Windows version with all my heart. I had to adapt. I couldn't have gotten a job otherwise. It was time for the buggy driver to learn to use the car if you know what I mean. Whatever you do, best of luck to you. Alex----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Smart" <chris_s@xxxxxxxxxxxx>To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2009 6:24 PM Subject: Re: what is best way to learn JAWS and the pc as a total newbie?Dorothy, have you considered just using Jaws without the screen as backup? Or alternatively, a large print program without Jaws running in the background? -- JFW related links: JFW homepage: http://www.freedomscientific.com/ Scripting mailing list: http://lists.the-jdh.com/listinfo.cgi/scriptography-the-jdh.com JFW List instructions: To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line. Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw Alternative archives located at: http://n2.nabble.com/JAWS-for-Windows-f2145279.html If you have any concerns about the list, post received from the list, or the way the list is being run, do not post them to the list. Rather contact the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx-- JFW related links: JFW homepage: http://www.freedomscientific.com/ Scripting mailing list: http://lists.the-jdh.com/listinfo.cgi/scriptography-the-jdh.com JFW List instructions: To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line. Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw Alternative archives located at: http://n2.nabble.com/JAWS-for-Windows-f2145279.html If you have any concerns about the list, post received from the list, or the way the list is being run, do not post them to the list. Rather contact the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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