Alex, It is different over here, if you are in employment you get help with your software under Access to work,, however if not or retired you are on your own and need to use your savings to buy help, it can and hold your breat cost " 250 perday or more from the Vendor, so you think I will try local Education center, lady has to have jaws puton a pc, since I wave the DDA act at Charlie the It Manager, poor woman has not a clue, she has aclass full of people I am odd one out, others are all impatient to "keep up with the Grand kids she cannot do it says she will put a few noteson a tape, I had2,then she gave up completely my Local Association for the Blind closed its It Department and resources Center, so I think,I will try and spend a week at Manor House what is Manor House? was note past tense a lovely old house owned by rnib in Torquay lovely Devon, I had to have an operation first and,did not want to delay I paid a £1,000 and went down, on arriving I find 17 members of staff have gone,been made redundant and soon the lovely house once a Red cross home and given to Rnib is to be sold, however I spend the week in bed recovering from left over effects of a hospital which had infections, Well I did get out alive more than many, they at manor house were kind to me even if I was in bed, do I regret the £1,000 ? No,I argued with the Rnib who were closing it down Lady given job said"it was a cash cow,should have been shut down 10,years ago, did the employees at Manor House get redundancy pay? I was told by a rnib volunteer I knew" if it was run as a limited company they could have got nothing it all so that is it it all depends on the way the dice falls. Sorry for the rant. Dorothy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alex Midence" <alex.midence@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2009 5:58 PM Subject: RE: what is best way to learn JAWS and the pc as a total newbie?
I'll tell you what I did and you can see if you can extrapolate anything from it for your situation. I did a lot of experimenting and I read lots and lots of help files. I listened to manuals on tape and read users manuals in Braille when they were available. One of the biggest helps to me though was having an actual JAWS trainer. My city has a service, (had back then anyway) that specializes in teaching adaptive technology. You may have one too in yours or close enough to you for a day or two a week. I did this and got it paid for through the state because I didn't have a job at the time. Make friends with computer savvy (polite word for geeks like yours truly) people and get them talking to you and among each other. Set brain for maximum absorbtion and just let 'em talk. And don't be afraid to just get your hands on the thing and mess around with it. Crashes and slain pc's build character. Once your fists recover from the desk pounding, once your throat feels all scratchy after all that swearing and yelling, and once you finally get to bed after unsnarling a snafu or two, you'll have learned a lot. It is said that Edison messed up 99 times before he landed on the proper way to make a lightbulb. Said he figured he learned 99 ways to do it wrong. Same thing with a PC. Have fun, Alex -----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Chris Smart Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2009 9:52 AM To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: RE: what is best way to learn JAWS and the pc as a total newbie? I've never checked out the basic training material, but I gather it assumes you are new to computers and Jaws. -- JFW related links: JFW homepage: http://www.freedomscientific.com/ Scripting mailing list: http://lists.the-jdh.com/listinfo.cgi/scriptography-the-jdh.com JFW List instructions: To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line. Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw Alternative archives located at: http://n2.nabble.com/JAWS-for-Windows-f2145279.html If you have any concerns about the list, post received from the list, or the way the list is being run, do not post them to the list. Rather contact the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx -- JFW related links: JFW homepage: http://www.freedomscientific.com/ Scripting mailing list: http://lists.the-jdh.com/listinfo.cgi/scriptography-the-jdh.com JFW List instructions: To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line. Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw Alternative archives located at: http://n2.nabble.com/JAWS-for-Windows-f2145279.html If you have any concerns about the list, post received from the list, or the way the list is being run, do not post them to the list. Rather contact the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
-- JFW related links: JFW homepage: http://www.freedomscientific.com/ Scripting mailing list: http://lists.the-jdh.com/listinfo.cgi/scriptography-the-jdh.com JFW List instructions: To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line. Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw Alternative archives located at: http://n2.nabble.com/JAWS-for-Windows-f2145279.html If you have any concerns about the list, post received from the list, or the way the list is being run, do not post them to the list. Rather contact the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx