thank you, Jim. But in the one situation you mention, where Jaws has crashed, how can a person find this other synth to install it or do whatever you're supposed to do with it, if you can't see what you're doing and have no Jawsworking? I must not be understanding something here. Also, in order to use it with Jaws instead of Eloquence, do you have to do something to install it on the synthesizer list in the Jaws interface so that it can be chosen as an alternative to Eloquence? Do people often do this, just to have another voice instead of the Jaws voice? ----- Original Message ----- From: "jim grimsby" <jimgrims@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2005 12:54 PM Subject: RE: warning! Important! Read this message with another synth other than eloquence!!!! Easter egg! Sapi is a means of talking to a software synthesizer. In a condition = where you might need it is well when ever you want it. 2 jaws stops talking = but is still running. This does not happen very often any more.=20 Sapi is bundle with ms windows xp home pro and is the same synthesizer = used by the screen reader included with windows.=20 So yes you could go ahead and use it now if you want. There are also a = lot of software based synthesizers that use the sapi 5 interface one example = of this is at&t natural voices. Hth=20 -----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On = Behalf Of Yardbird Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2005 12:46 PM To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: warning! Important! Read this message with another synth = other than eloquence!!!! Easter egg! Jim, I don't know what SAP stands for, and I don't know under what conditions = you mean I might need it. Is it a software speech synth packaged with Win = XP,=20 meant to be used with a program like Jaws as an alternative to = Eloquence?=20 Could I switch to it right now to read the next messages from this list? = Or, if not, what is it and what's it actually for? Thanks, Daniel ----- Original Message -----=20 From: "jim grimsby" <jimgrims@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2005 12:35 PM Subject: RE: warning! Important! Read this message with another synth = other=20 than eloquence!!!! Easter egg! Hi, if you need sapi 5 you can go to the jaws control panel. Now select langwige. Now select change synthesizer. You will see sapi 5 in the = =3D list press enter. Now you will be using the other synth. =3D20 -----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On =3D = Behalf Of Yardbird Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2005 12:07 PM To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: warning! Important! Read this message with another synth = =3D other than eloquence!!!! Easter egg! I could use some instruction about this. I'm accustomed to thinking =3D that=3D20 Eloquence simply was the synth that Jaws used out of the box. = What is =3D this=3D20 other synth you're talking about, how does one switch = to it, and why =3D would=3D20 you choose it? In an emergency where Eloquence = failed? Or because it's =3D a=3D20 full-featured synth whose sound you might = prefer to that of Eloquence? thanks, Daniel ----- Original Message -----=3D20 From: "jim grimsby" <jimgrims@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2005 12:02 PM Subject: RE: warning! Important! Read this message with another synth = =3D other=3D20 than eloquence!!!! Easter egg! Hi, with jaws under windows xp you will always have access to two = =3D3D software speech engines. Ms speech 5 and eloquence. =3D3D20 Hth=3D3D20 -----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On = =3D3D =3D Behalf Of Jack Lowe Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2005 11:56 AM To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: warning! Important! Read this message with another synth = =3D =3D3D other than eloquence!!!! Easter egg! And what if you only have one synth?... ----- Original Message -----=3D3D20 From: "Joy Tilton" <joyctilton@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2005 2:30 PM Subject: warning! Important! Read this message with another synth other = =3D =3D3D than eloquence!!!! Easter egg! A particular easter egg has been discovered, probably with in the =3D3D = =3D last=3D3D3D couple of days which affects eloquence users in jaws and in = open =3D book=3D3D3D where if the word caesure is read by eloquence, the speech disappears. =3D =3D3D One way one can get around this, however is to = switch to another synth, =3D3D =3D or=3D3D3D find that word and change the way it = is said in the jaws dictionary. =3D3D =3D I've not tried doing the dictionary bit = yet, but apparently, that is one=3D3D3D =3D =3D3D way to get around that crash = if anyone were to want to hit you with =3D that=3D3D3D =3D3D string of characters. Joy C. Tilton mailto:joyctilton@xxxxxxxxxxx msn: joyctilton@xxxxxxxxxxx AIM and skype address: joyctilton check out my journal at http://joyctilton.livejournal.com -- To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to=3D3D20 jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line. 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