RE: verification and jaws

  • From: "Gail The U. S. Male" <gail1959@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 8 Aug 2005 11:21:34 -0600

I've seen sighted people have trouble with this verification system as well.

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From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On
Behalf Of Chris Skarstad
Sent: Monday, August 08, 2005 10:04 AM
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: verification and jaws


hi. Unfortunately there's nothing the screenreader venders can do about
this, unless they got together with the developers of Capcha, which is the
cause of most of the problems.  Maybe if they did there could be a
solution. But as it stands now, there's no way that I know of to
automatically make JAWS, or any other screenreader I know of, to read text
imbeded in a graphic. You gotta understand that when you look at these
graphics, there's 2 problems.  Firstly, the picture is fuzzy.  It has to be
so that screen capturing programs won't be able to grab the image and just
use it to create fake accounts and start spamming people.  So they have to
make the picture imbeded in the graphic just fuzzy enough so that the human
eye can recognize the letters so it can be read.  Secondly, JAWS and other
screenreaders rely on textual imformation on the screen wether it's a web
page, or a graphic with a label.  In these graphics where you have to type
in the letters, there litterally is no text. It's a picture of the letters,
and as I said before, a fuzzy one at that.  So that's why the screenreaders
can't pick it up.  It'd be nice, but I don't see a way of doing it without
coming up with a new system of verification.




At 08:14 PM 7/31/2005, you wrote:
>Hi everybody. Does anyone know if Freedom Scientific has any plans to
>address the problem of verification graphics? Initially it was just Yahoo
>and msn that were using them, but since I've noticed more and more sites
>using the same thing. The text you've got to copy into the edit box is
>written in a graphic, which Jaws can't see, so without sighted help it's
>impossible to do. Granted, in some cases they provide an audio version,
>but I've always found it unintelligible. It would be a lot easier if Jaws
>were able to see the text written in the graphic so it could be copied
>into the edit box.
>   Hope someone's got an answer,
>                     John.
>
>

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