first of all i use a third party firewall that works in both directions, and secondly i do not like to auto update but am religious about doing so. so why use cpu power to run those services if i do not need to use it? not knocking it for those that want the suttle reminders. actually think for some its a great feature. chow. bill -- To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line. Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw If you have any concerns about the list, post received from the list, or the way the list is being run, do not post them to the list. Rather contact the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx