Re: unsubscribe
- From: "Steve Boodram" <steve.boodram@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2007 19:28:33 -0400
Sory about that Yardbird. I meant to put your name first and Chris's after.
A senior moment probably.
Phone: 1-868-636-3519
Fax: 1-868-679-1001
Mobile: 1-868-730-8377
e-mail: steve.boodram@xxxxxxxxx
----- Original Message -----
From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, June 15, 2007 7:15 PM
Subject: Re: unsubscribe
> hello Steve,
>
> My name isn't Chris.
>
> Thanks.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Steve Boodram" <steve.boodram@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Friday, June 15, 2007 2:45 PM
> Subject: Re: unsubscribe
>
>
> Hi Chris, I know. Its just my opinion. Lets forget about it now and drop
the
> subject. And sorry Chris.
> Phone: 1-868-636-3519
> Fax: 1-868-679-1001
> Mobile: 1-868-730-8377
> e-mail: steve.boodram@xxxxxxxxx
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Friday, June 15, 2007 4:51 PM
> Subject: Re: unsubscribe
>
>
> > Steve,
> >
> > No objection to your sensibilities about this issue. I think kindness
and
> > forebearance are important, too. Just want to make one thing clear,
> though:
> > I didn't write what I did in order to express criticism of Chris,
however
> > you may feel about his message, yourself. And I certainly didn't mean to
> > characterize his comments as vulgar. I hope that wasn't misunderstood.
> >
> > thank you.
> > dien
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Steve Boodram" <steve.boodram@xxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Friday, June 15, 2007 11:53 AM
> > Subject: Re: unsubscribe
> >
> >
> > Well Yardbird, this is good he was unsubscribed. I just think people
> should
> > be a little patient with others. That's the job of the moderator, not
> Chris'
> > so if he don't like a message, just delete it and if you want to vent
your
> > anger on something or someone posted on this list, why not contact the
> > moderator, or better yet, the person in question and speak your mind.
> That's
> > not for a mailing list. If he did not like it, there's the delete key.
> But,
> > he chooses to make the person feel bad for all to see. I don't know the
> > individual and have nothing against him, but common courtesy should be a
> > characteristic of any human being if you must be in contact with humans.
> > like yourself. With regards the frequency with which it occurs on this
> > mailing list, well that's no excuse to be rude to another. I'm sure not
> > everyone has the time to read all the messages, certainly I don't and if
> > someone knows how to use their screenreader efficiently they'll have no
> > problems perusing hundreds of e-mails in a day, reading the ones that
> > interest them. As I said, I don't read every e-mail I get. May be Chris
> has
> > all the programs mentioned on this list, knows all the answers to every
> > questions but I'm not here long enough to know and from what I read I've
> > seen nothing of the sort. Please forgive my ignorance. I think his
> outburst
> > was a blaring display of his selfish attitude and a sign of intolerance
> and
> > weakness.
> > Phone: 1-868-636-3519
> > Fax: 1-868-679-1001
> > Mobile: 1-868-730-8377
> > e-mail: steve.boodram@xxxxxxxxx
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2007 10:16 PM
> > Subject: Re: unsubscribe
> >
> >
> > > Steve,
> > >
> > > I honestly don't know whether something here wasn't as obvious to
> someone
> > as
> > > it is to you and me. I had to learn these things by being on a few
> mailing
> > > lists, too. So I thought it was only decent to try to offer some
> > > instructions without being nasty about it. Glad if things turned out
not
> > to
> > > undiplomatically this time. I'm afraid this happens a lot on this
list,
> > more
> > > than on others, and as I said I don't know why, and it happens so
often
> > that
> > > sometimes one of us will be really rude and vulgar to the person who
> can't
> > > figure it out. And I can understand the rude person's frustration,
when
> > that
> > > happens, as well as of course the hurt feelings of the other person. I
> > only
> > > wish I knew what it is about the JFW list that makes for so many
> episodes
> > > like this. But I can't figure it out.
> > >
> > > anyway, just so the person got unsubscribed, and nobody got too
insulted
> > or
> > > bent out of shape. That's a fairly good outcome, I think.
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Steve Boodram" <steve.boodram@xxxxxxxxx>
> > > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2007 3:46 PM
> > > Subject: Re: unsubscribe
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi Yardbird, I agree with you totally but it might not have been as
> > obvious
> > > to you and I as it was to the person who posted the message. We can
all
> > make
> > > our point crystal clear to others while at the same time being nice to
> > them
> > > like you did. That's the issue. It was just the way I think the
response
> > was
> > > communicated by Chris Skarstad
> > > Cheers.
> > > Phone: 1-868-636-3519
> > > Fax: 1-868-679-1001
> > > Mobile: 1-868-730-8377
> > > e-mail: steve.boodram@xxxxxxxxx
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2007 11:19 AM
> > > Subject: Re: unsubscribe
> > >
> > >
> > > > Hello,
> > > >
> > > > This has nothing at all to do with how you're busy, or I'm busy, or
> > Chris,
> > > > here, is busy. it has to do with taking responsibility for learning
> what
> > > > you're doing insted of dashing through things like this without
> > thinking.
> > > > Say someone sent you the email address for subscribing to this list,
> as
> > > > happens sometimes? Do you just click on it and then forget what
> > happened.
> > > > No. Here's what you take a moment to consider:
> > > > The time for a person to learn how to unsubscribe from a mailing
list
> is
> > > > when they first subscribe to it. First of all, the way to
unsubscribe
> is
> > > > almost always a reverse in some way of the subscription method. For
> > > > instance, if you sent an email to the listserv address with the word
> > > > subscribe in the subject in, then the way to unsub is to send an
email
> > to
> > > > the very same address, but with the word unsubscribe in the subject
> > line.
> > > >
> > > > Sometimes, the method will involve to separate email addresses, each
> of
> > > > which is dedicated to performing one or the other of these
functions.
> > For
> > > > example, if in order to subscribe, you were instructed to send a
blank
> > > email
> > > > to lowtech-subscribe@xxxxxxxxxxx, then the way to unsub will be to
> send
> > a
> > > > blank email to the "sister" address dedicated to unsubbing, i.e.,
> > > > lowtech-unsub@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > >
> > > > These are helpful general rules. But then there's also the welcome
> > message
> > > > you get from a list as soon as you've subscribed, and that also
> contains
> > > > every basic instruction you need i order to use the list properly,
> > > including
> > > > how to unsubscribe from it. This welcome message should be kept, not
> > > > deleted.
> > > >
> > > > And finally, there are instructions at the bottom of the posts on
> nearly
> > > all
> > > > mailing lists, and for someone who wants to get there without
arrowing
> > > > ("scrolling") through all the quoted messages, a simple control end
> will
> > > > take you to the bottom of an email message, from which you can just
> > arrow
> > > up
> > > > a few lines to find the instruction.
> > > >
> > > > Hope this helps.
> > > > assumYou can unctionseithe amial
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Dean Mills" <dm3209@xxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2007 7:40 AM
> > > > Subject: RE: unsubscribe
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Excuse me we are hear to help people and you are just very rude does
> us
> > > all
> > > > a
> > > > favour and be plite about things. Tere is a lot of messages that
are
> > long
> > > > and not evry one has the time to scroll trhoguh it to the bottom
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> > Behalf
> > > > Of
> > > > Chris Skarstad
> > > > Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2007 1:40 PM
> > > > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > Subject: RE: unsubscribe
> > > >
> > > > Sorry, I'm not gonna lighten up when it's very
> > > > obvious how to unsubscribe. When you first
> > > > joined the list, you sent a message to
> > > >
> > > > jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx and put the word
> > > > subscribe in the subject line to get on the list,
> > > > so why would you send a message to another
> > > > address to leave the list? Sending a message to
> > > > this address with the word unsubscribe in the
> > > > subject line has never worked, and it's not going to work now.
> > > > and sending a message to the list asking to be
> > > > unsubscribed doesn't work either. If you have
> > > > trouble with list related stuff, write to the
> > > > moderator off list and he'll help you. That's just how it goes.
> > > >
> > > > Yes, you may have to arrow down past the links in
> > > > the message footer, but below that is important
> > > > information about the list, so please take 5
> > > > seconds out of your day and read it so you'll
> > > > know how to unsubscribe if you need to. Then we
> > > > won't have to keep going through this all the time.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Ok, rant over. I'll shut up now.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > At 04:32 PM 6/13/2007, you wrote:
> > > > >Why don't you lighten up there is a lot of people who do not read
to
> > the
> > > > >end
> > > > >of a message because those of you who have to put all the
signatures
> > > which
> > > > >are not to be there. There for a person will not get to the
> unsubscribe
> > > > >info.
> > > > >
> > > > >-----Original Message-----
> > > > >From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> > > Behalf
> > > > >Of Chris Skarstad
> > > > >Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2007 14:10
> > > > >To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > >Subject: Re: unsubscribe
> > > > >
> > > > >Hi. all of this is clearly explained at the
> > > > >bottom of every single message sent to the list,
> > > > >it's amazing to me how many people haven't gotten
> > > > >it yet. I guess people don't read their e-mail
> > > > >all the way to the bottom of the message.
> > > > >
> > > > >At 10:00 AM 6/13/2007, you wrote:
> > > > > >thank you and sory for the inconvenience.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Christopher Hallsworth écrivait Le 13/06/2007 14:02 :
> > > > > >>You need to unsubscribe by doing the following:
> > > > > >>1. Send a message to jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx and put
unsubscribe
> > in
> > > > > >>the subject line.
> > > > > >>2. Reply to the confirmation message you receive.
> > > > > >>On Wed, 13 Jun 2007 07:31:24 +0200, "RaZorbacK"
> > > > > >><lists@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> said:
> > > > > >>>--
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> > > > > >>--
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> > 6/13/2007
> > > > 12:50 PM
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> > > >
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6/15/2007
> > 11:31 AM
> >
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contact
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>
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> Checked by AVG Free Edition.
> Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.17/850 - Release Date: 6/15/2007
> 11:31 AM
>
> --
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