Carl, it all makes sense, but what kind of work environment are you in where you can't get someone in charge to enforce a very simple accommodation: No one should do this. Is this a huge, disorganized office with so many people that you can't control everyone? Or you have no supervisor who can tell them to stop doing this? That is where your solution should be, not struggling to figure out some impossible way around their inconsiderate sabotage, is what I think. What do you think? Have you considered that we're edging into ADA compliance territory, here? you don't deserve to be treated like this. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carl J. Rose" <carl.rose1@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2006 7:24 PM Subject: RE: un-muting jaws sound Yardbird, Yes, I constantly stress that the others in the office simply turn off jaws when they use a machine. However, no matter how often I tell them, some forget and they mess around with the system volume. When it is muted, it is really a problem. Also, some of our newer machines have speakers in the flat panel monitors. While these are very convenient and save space, changing the volume is often done from within a menu on the monitor unless you use the system volume. To further complicate the issue, we now have keyboards that have mute buttons right on them and sometimes they get inadvertantly pushed. Yikes! Thus, if Jaws would just include function keys for system mute and volume, they could save me a lot of frustration! Hope this makes sense. -----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Yardbird Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2006 11:16 AM To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: un-muting jaws sound P.S. I just remembered that your original inquiry said that someone in your office was in the habit of turning down the sound on the computer, so that you couldn't use it after they had. Well, again I take the chance that I'm not understanding the problem correctly,but I have to ask why they do this in the first place? Is it just in order to silence Jaws because it annoys the sighted user? Jaws is certainly worse than an annoyance to a sighted user, actually, because it can prevent normal computer usage and Web navigation using the mouse. Can't you get them just to turn off Jaws? Teach them to press Insert F4, hit Enter, and that's that? So, next time you boot up, if you have Jaws set to load at startup, everything will be fine. Or even if you don't have Jaws set that way, so long as the computer's running, you can use your hotkey to start Jaws. As I say, maybe I'm still not understanding this. But that's what I think I remember being the source of the problem. A person or persons at work who need to be instructed to simply turn off Jaws if they're using the computer, rather than play around with the system volume. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carl J. Rose" <carl.rose1@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, August 28, 2006 10:34 PM Subject: RE: un-muting jaws sound Yardbird et al: Thanks for your posts, but the problem is that when I start working on the machine, there is no sound. While I can easily set up a speed key to start jaws, and I do, I cannot hear anything if they have sound muted. Hence, I can't hear all the prompts that would help me if I can't immediately hear jaws talk. Maybe FS could build in a speed key for reliably un-muting the sound card? -----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Yardbird Sent: Monday, August 28, 2006 2:45 PM To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: un-muting jaws sound Hi, How about getting to the same set of controls a little more quickly by just pressing Insert F11 to put up your system tray list, hitting enter on the Volume option, and proceeding from there just as Michelle suggests? Just another possibility. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Salvas,Michel [NCR]" <Michel.Salvas@xxxxxxxx> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, August 28, 2006 11:31 AM Subject: Re: un-muting jaws sound Hi, cjr, If you're talking about System sounds, here is the procedure. 1. From the Start menu, press S for Settings then C for Control Panel. 2. Press S until you get Sounds and Audio Devices and press ENTER. 3. Make sure the Volume page is selected. If not, press CTRL+TAB until you get it. 4. Press TAB until you get Device volume Mute and press SPACEBAR to uncheck it. 5. Press ENTER to close the Sounds and Audio Devices Properties dialog box. Michel Salvas -----Original Message----- From: "Carl J. Rose" <carl.rose1@xxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: un-muting jaws sound Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2006 01:06:09 -0400 Hi All... Often I go to use a computer in our office and that person has the sound muted. Is there a way to reliably unmute the system with a jfw speed key or other method? 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