Re: two odd questions
- From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 4 Jul 2006 15:47:34 -0700
So far as I know, a screen reader like Jaws has no problem at all reading
HTML or Rich Text in an email message body, any more than it has trouble
reading, say, a Web page. Which is, of course, HTML.
What I *have* seen happen, and this may very well not be the answer to your
problem, but it's another screen reader problem, sometimes due to a color
setting someone has managed to make (how, I'm not sure) for their email text
and background, the whole message comes out something that even a low vision
person, not to mention jaws, can't make any sense of. Like blue text
against a black background. I forgot how this can happen, but it can. I
also forgot the solution, though I remember getting something like that,
looking to me like a solid black email message, and getting the sender to
change something and resend.
But the reason I don't think this could be your problem is because some text
is visible , while other text isn't, from one message to the other within
the same email. Big help I am, huh? What happened to Francis Daniels, I'm
wondering. He'd know this.
Anyway, unless there's some sort of color stuff associated with your use of
HTML, I can't imagine what that would have to do with it. I'm aware that
blind list owners and mods don't like HTML, but it's mostly out of
reasonable security concerns as someone said, not because screen readers
can't make sense of it. That isn't true.
To put a twist on the usual closing, sorry if this doesn't help enough.
anields, Rarancisf help I am.probdeahat , any more than it
----- Original Message -----
From: "Patricia" <bcsarah.fan@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, July 04, 2006 2:06 PM
Subject: Re: two odd questions
but they should still be able to read just text, no links... this person was
sayiny: "Gee, I can't tell if you've written anything here or not, because
my screan reader just reads what I wrote you, and your origenal message. Can
you please
try again, using plain text." I found that kind of baffeling. because they
could read my original message, but not my reply. oh well, I'll try again.
----- Original Message -----
From: "James Homuth" <james@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, July 04, 2006 12:03 PM
Subject: Re: two odd questions
> JFW can read HTML emails just fine, yes, and so can most if not all other
> screenreaders. However, there are still email clients out there that don't
> do well with HTML emails, so rather than take the chance that content on
> the list will be missed or misinterpreted by one of ose email clients,
> plain text emails are required. You don't lose any noticeable benefit over
> HTML emails, since most clients now do things like converting URL's into
> hyperlinks anyway. Also, it's a lot easier for spammers to hide certain
> things in HTML messages that people can unknowingly click on. So, this is
> as much for security reasons as it is an ease of viewing perspective.
>
> James,
> List Admin
> At 01:19 PM 7/4/2006, you wrote:
>>okay, this is either going to seem stupid, or just plain weird, I'm
>>assuming the former.
>>
>>I just found out on another group that I am on that there is a person who
>>is blind/visually impaired. when I wrote a message to the group (replying
>>to that particular message) I got a response back asking me if I could
>>resubmit that message in plain text, because all that person could see was
>>their message and the original message posted. I did both of these
>>messages from the gmail website. why is it that this person needs messages
>>in plain text? can't all screen readers read html? (I saw that we had to
>>have things set to plain text on the JAWS list information e-mail). why is
>>this, if JAWS seems to read all text in html just fine? or at least, it
>>does for me.
>>
>>now, an Outlook question. whenenever I want to find a message (by doing
>>f3) I get the list of messages that I want, as per usual. my question is,
>>do I have to close the program and then re-open it just to get back to all
>>messages from everyone not just this person?
>>
>>and this final question isn't so odd. I had made a post awhile back about
>>Adobe Acrobat and JAWS and its acessibility but didn't get any response.
>>how accessible is Adobe Acrobat and JAWS? I've seen the help file which
>>talks about Acrobat/Acrobat Reader, but there is no distiction between the
>>two or so it seems in the help file.
>>
>>Thanks for any help.
>>
>>P.S. as I suspected, my show hidden files was enabled, and I still don't
>>have an application data folder. weird, but I've delbt with it for this
>>long, I guess it shouldn't be a problem to deal with it some more.
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