remember I was having a problem with a program causing an illegal operation at start up? It was that msn soft ware. Well I found it in the config.sys file. I didn't know that you had to do control tab to get to more items in the start up loading. It was right on a line above the jaws start up line. I had this problem with Norton live update. I think it tries to load jaws and too many things at once and that is why it gets an illegal operation. Well I unchecked it and it is fine now. On the subject of dsl, the tech support people said I didn't need to run the msn software to make outlook express work. the secret is you have to open internet explorer before you start outlook express. finnygomes@xxxxxxx home page www.rellek.com/stevegomes phone 720-747-4niner niner0 -- To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line. Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw If you have any concerns about the list, post received from the list, or the way the list is being run, do not post them to the list. Rather contact the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx