Re: sys trey and jaws 6x versus 7
- From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2005 13:03:26 -0700
Bruce,
I just tried it out and think I get what you're saying. But what's the
command actually doing? It seems to me that, let's see, it's displaying a
temporary text-based list of the system tray items. Is that it? It isn't
meant for performing any sort of operations, I take it, as I tried pressing
enter on one of the items (volume control) and nothing happened, which is
what I expected. So am I right? It's just a list that can be read, or
saved, or copied?
itmes
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bruce Toews" <dogriver@xxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2005 11:49 AM
Subject: Re: sys trey and jaws 6x versus 7
It's a great debugging tool in case you need to send tech support, or
anyone else, the contents of your sys tray; also, if you want to review
the spelling of a specific item, or want to paste some status information
into an e-mail or document, and on and on.
Bruce
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On Sun, 23 Oct 2005, Sun Sparkle wrote:
> what real use is the control shift f 11 key stroke?
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Adam
> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2005 12:03 PM
> Subject: Re: sys trey and jaws 6x versus 7
>
>
> Sorry, sorry for not being clear enough. By Jaws 7, I meant Jaws Version
> 7.0. Here is my message again after proof-reading:
>
>
>
>
> Hi Robert,
>
> Could you please do the following test with Jaws version 7.0 without
> using Insert + F11?
>
> Test #1: Windows behavior via its own keystrokes.
>
> Tab to your System Tray and see if Jaws version 7.0 is able to read all
> listed icons. Since Jaws version 6 is able to detect all of them, this
> test should be successful.
>
> Test #2: Jaws version 7.0 Virtual Viewer.
>
> View the System Tray items using Control + Shift + F11. Normally, Jaws
> version 7.0 should list all items and read them. If Jaws is able to detect
> all items then we have a consistency problem because Insert F11 doesn't
> work properly. Here, I would revisit my Configuration Manager, check
> related settings, and further troubleshoot. If Jaws version 7.0 doesn't
> detect all items, then I would simply consider repairing or
> re-installation.
>
> In case of total failure, I would check any update for my video driver,
> check my Windows settings and updates, and finally, FS will be my last
> resort.
>
> Please keep us posted.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Adam
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Yardbird wrote:
> P.S.
>
> I just went to my desktop and played around a bit, and now I'm more
> perplexed than I was before. I'm still using Jaws 6.2, and everything is
> okay for me in this regard. Everything speaks, I mean. But I went to the
> desktop with Windows key M. Then I tabbed to the start button, the task
> bar, and the system tray. Once at the system tray, I used my up and down
> arrows, and every item in the system tray spoke as a control button, which
> I
> suppose is what they are. I'd never bothered trying this before, but
> always
> used Insert F11, not wanting to have to go to the desktop just to access
> my
> system tray.
>
> Then I pressed Insert num row 7 to see what it would do, and it brought up
> the Configuration Manager and had me in a particular area of the settings
> menu, I forget which. So maybe what was meant was to use the Insert F7
> command, as you might on a Web site to get a list of the links?
>
>
> From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2005 9:33 AM
> Subject: Re: sys trey and jaws 6x versus 7
>
>
> Just checking to be sure about one thing, as I follow this thread: You do
> mean Insert num row 7, not insert F7, yes? If so, what's the nominal
> purpose of that particular Jaws key combination, which I'm not familiar
> with?
> Thanks.
> Thanks.
> ur
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Adam" <adam.daou@xxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2005 7:33 AM
> Subject: Re: sys trey and jaws 6x versus 7
>
>
> Hi Robert,
>
> Could you please do the following test with Jaws 7 without using Insert
> + F11?
>
> Test #1: Windows behavior via its own keystrokes.
>
> Tab to your System Tray and see if Jaws 7 is able to read all listed
> icons. Since Jaws 6 is able to detect all of them, this test should be
> successful.
>
> Test #2: Jaws 7 Virtual Viewer.
>
> View the System Tray items using Control + Shift + F11. Normally, Jaws 7
> should list all items and read them. If Jaws is able to detect all items
> then we have a consistency problem because Insert F11 doesn't work
> properly. Here, I would revisit my Configuration Manager, check related
> settings, and further troubleshoot. If Jaws 7 doesn't detect all items,
> then I would simply consider repairing or re-installation.
>
> In case of total failure, I would check any update for my video driver,
> check my Windows settings and updates, and finally, FS will be my last
> resort.
>
> Please keep us posted.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Adam
>
>
>
> Robert McCoy wrote:
>
> Not the display settings, I did say that jaws 6 works properly, jaws 7
> does
> not.
>
>
>
> Robert McCoy
> 506-459-6636
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
> Of Robert Hebert
> Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2005 3:58 AM
> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: sys trey and jaws 6x versus 7
>
> Robert, check your display settings--recent Windows updates changed some
> of
> my settings automatically.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Robert McCoy" <rmccoy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: "Jfw" <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2005 12:35 AM
> Subject: sys trey and jaws 6x versus 7
>
>
> When I load jaws 7 and check my system trey by using insert f11 jaws will
> identify one or two items, and not jaws itself. If I simply unload jaws 7
> and load jaws 6 it will identify several more programs that are present on
> the sys trey. Any suggestions as to why jaws 7 does not work properly and
> a
> possible solution. I am running XPHome, on a dell inspiron laptop with
> an
> ATI Mobility radeon 9200 vid card.
>
> Robert McCoy
> 506-459-6636
>
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