Re: switching to ILM from Quella
- From: "Angel" <angel238@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 28 Dec 2004 19:02:34 -0500
If you reformat would you have to reactivate your code? I would think so,
or jaws would run in demo mode. Is that the purpose of activating and
deactivating Jaws.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Will Pearson" <will-pearson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2004 1:57 PM
Subject: Re: switching to ILM from Quella
> Hi;
>
> I'll try and explain the ILM authorisation scheme as best I understand it.
> If one of the "official beta testers" wants to add anything, feel free, as
> they probably know the system better than I.
>
> Firstly, an important point, the notion of keys has gone. ILM does not
use
> keys to verify that a product is licensed.
>
> When you install an ILM version of JAWS, you connect to the web and begin
> the authorisation process. This generates an unlock code based on your
> hardware configuration at that time, and decrements your count for
remaining
> authorisations by one (1) count. This unlock code is then stored on your
> system for the client side (your system) portion of the ILM system to
verify
> against each time your system boots up. This check against hardware
> specification is necessary to ensure the code has not been transferred to
> another machine.
>
> The code is *unique* to your hardware configuration at that time, but not
> software configuration. So, if you change your hardware, e.g. add another
> hard drive, change the RAM, etc. you will need to re-authorise your system
> and gain a new unlock code based on your new hardware. However,
installing
> or removing software will have *no* effect on the unlock code.
>
> There is a tool to remove authorisation, found within the JAWS program
group
> for ILM versions, however this simply deletes the unlock code from the
> system. It does *not* increment your authorisation count by one (1)
count,
> in fact, it does nothing to your authorisation count. Therefore, once you
> have authorised a system under ILM there is no way to remove that
> authorisation and increment your authorisation count, it remains the same
> number as it was prior to removing the authorisation.
>
> There is no way to transfer authorisations between different machines, and
> you will have to generate a new unlock code for each machine for which you
> wish to authorise JAWS. As I mentioned earlier, the unlock code is
specific
> to your hardware configuration, so even if transfer was possible, the
unlock
> code would not work on a machine other than the one that was used to
create
> the authorisation code.
>
> Will Pearson
> Microsoft MVP (Visual Developer/VC++)
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Angel" <angel238@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2004 6:11 PM
> Subject: Re: switching to ILM from Quella
>
>
> > You can deactivate the computer before reformatting. When you
reactivate
> > the computer after formatting you just use the same key you took off.
It
> is
> > sort of the same thing as if you had your own floppy only it is done via
> the
> > internet.
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "chevelle" <chevelle33@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2004 12:16 PM
> > Subject: Re: switching to ILM from Quella
> >
> >
> > > Hi, how would you authorize both desktop and laptop with one key? I
> > thought
> > > once you authorize a computer you loose a key, then if you authorize
> > another
> > > computer you would use up another key leaving you with one key left.
> Also
> > if
> > > you do have to reformat or reinstall windows how do you take that key
> off
> > > the computer. I am sure it doesn't work the same way as with the
quella.
> > > There is no floppy disk to put the key back onto.
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Karl Smith" <karl@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2004 11:58 AM
> > > Subject: Re: switching to ILM from Quella
> > >
> > >
> > > > Hello,
> > > >
> > > > A couple of things about ILM. First of all, if you authorize a
> computer
> > > > with it and then have to reformat the disk drive, reinstall windows
or
> > > > whatever you can reauthorize the same computer without loosing a
key.
> > The
> > > > only way you will loose a key on the same machine is if you make
some
> > > > hardware changes which changes the locking code of the machine.
This
> is
> > > > much the same as what happens with Windows XP.
> > > >
> > > > If you have two computers, desktop and laptop, you can authorize
both
> > > > using
> > > > one key for each. If you get a new computer or do something to
change
> > the
> > > > locking code on either you can use up your last key to re-authorize
> it.
> > > >
> > > > If you use up all your keys you can contact Freedom Scientific to
have
> > > > them
> > > > reset without charge. To my knowledge there are no plans to charge
> for
> > > > this. The only reason FS is limiting your number of keys is to keep
> > track
> > > > of how many times your key is used. If you are the actual end user
> and
> > > > have a legitimate reason for increasing your key count they will do
> it.
> > > > HTH.
> > > >
> > > > Karl
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > At 08:11 AM 12/28/2004, you wrote:
> > > >>What do you mean from PC to PC, you can't do that, if you get a new
> PC,
> > > >>you
> > > >>lose another authorization with the new system. If you, like me have
a
> > > >>desktop PC and a laptop PC, you start out with 3, you authorize
those
> 2
> > > >>computers, now I have 1 left, if I now have a problem with this
> computer
> > > >>or
> > > >>decide to put the new ILM authorization on my ham radio desk
computer,
> > I'm
> > > >>out of luck should I buy a new PC unless I have the count reset and
I
> > > >>think
> > > >>they'll only do it once free or something from what I was told so
> > > >>basically,
> > > >>my ham radio desk computer is staying at 5.1 for good with the
quella
> > > >>authorization so I keep 1 extra key and my old way of a new computer
> > every
> > > >>couple years is going to have to stop here I guess.
> > > >>----- Original Message -----
> > > >>From: "Rick Watson" <rick@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > >>To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > >>Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2004 9:54 AM
> > > >>Subject: RE: switching to ILM from Quella
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> > Good morning everyone,
> > > >> >
> > > >> > I wonder how difficult it will be to move authorizations from pc
to
> > pc
> > > >> > under the internet auth method?
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Rick
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> > -----Original Message-----
> > > >> > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On
> > > >> > Behalf Of Bruce Toews
> > > >> > Sent: Monday, December 27, 2004 3:04 PM
> > > >> > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > >> > Subject: RE: switching to ILM from Quella
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> > The Quella version of JFW currently available expires in March.
You
> > > >> > will
> > > >> >
> > > >> > need to move to the ILM version, but from my understanding, FS
> > will=20
> > > >> > provide a seamless way to do this when your new ILM disk arrives.
> > > >> > Quella
> > > >> >
> > > >> > will be no more after March of 2005.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Bruce
> > > >> >
> > > >> > --=20
> > > >> > Bruce Toews
> > > >> > E-mail and MSN/Windows Messenger: water_drinker@xxxxxxxx
> > > >> > Web Site (including info on my weekly commentaries):
> > > >> > http://www.ogts.net
> > > >> > For the best oldies anywhere visit
> > http://www.treasureislandoldies.com
> > > >> >
> > > >> > On Mon, 27 Dec 2004, Chip Orange wrote:
> > > >> >
> > > >> >> If you are on the pre-authorized serial number list for 6.0,
will
> > > >> >> you=20
> > > >> >> still need some separate ILM authorizations? I have to admit to
> > being
> > > >> >
> > > >> >> pretty confused about this whole program.
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> Thanks.
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> Chip
> > > >> >> =3D20
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >>> -----Original Message-----
> > > >> >>> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D20
> > [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > > >> >>> =
> > > >> >
> > > >> >>> On Behalf Of david poehlman
> > > >> >>> Sent: Thursday, December 23, 2004 3:54 AM
> > > >> >>> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > >> >>> Subject: Re: switching to ILM from Quella
> > > >> >>> =3D20
> > > >> >>> Have you checked the data base to see if you have any
ilm=3D20=20
> > > >> >>> authorizations for 6.0? If so, You may need fs to help you
> with=20
> > > >> >>> this. =3D20 Johnnie Apple Seed
> > > >> >>> =3D20
> > > >> >>> ----- Original Message -----
> > > >> >>> From: "John Miller" <n1umj@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > >> >>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > >> >>> Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2004 9:51 PM
> > > >> >>> Subject: Re: switching to ILM from Quella
> > > >> >>> =3D20
> > > >> >>> =3D20
> > > >> >>> yes I do
> > > >> >>> ----- Original Message -----=3D20
> > > >> >>> From: "david poehlman"
<david.poehlman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > >> >>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > >> >>> Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2004 8:33 PM
> > > >> >>> Subject: Re: switching to ILM from Quella
> > > >> >>> =3D20
> > > >> >>> =3D20
> > > >> >>>> do you have your 20 digit auth code?
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> >>>> Johnnie Apple Seed
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> >>>> ----- Original Message -----=3D20
> > > >> >>>> From: "John Miller" <n1umj@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > >> >>>> To: "JFW list" <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > >> >>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2004 7:39 PM
> > > >> >>>> Subject: switching to ILM from Quella
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> >>>> Hi all, I decided to switch to ILM today form the quella=3D20
> > > >> >>> authorization,
> > > >> >>>> has
> > > >> >>>> anyone else done this? I can not get it to work at all,
the=3D20
> > > >> >>> ILM version of
> > > >> >>>> jaws will not run on my computer, the quella version of=3D20
> > > >> >>> version 6 will,
> > > >> >>>> but
> > > >> >>>> not the ILM, is there something I need to know before=3D20
> > > >> >>> switching? anyone
> > > >> >>>> have
> > > >> >>>> any ideas? has anyone done this yet?
> > > >> >>>>
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