I had the same thing, when I found it it was just jaws and the Jaws Version that it loaded did not appear to have A Shortcut key but the Jaws that the shortcut key was assigned to kept me from having A shortcut key for Jaws 7.0 So when we find something like the listers have been having trouble with problelly comes from A Merge when we have upgraded but we as Humans are subject to find something Mysterious instead of looking for the Obeious. John ----- Original Message ----- From: Curtis Delzer To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 1:13 AM Subject: Re: strange problem with jaws 8 and ctrl+alt+j hotkey Thank you Rick, I solved it on my wife's computer, actually had another shortcut on her desktop named just "jaws," which accepted the control-alt-j keystroke, but when I unloaded jfw, made sure all shortcuts had no "control-alt-j" keys assigned, I was able to assign to the one in the start menu under jfw8, control-alt-j. Whew! What a round about way to do the job. I believe that jfw is, in some way with the item on the desk top, JAWS 8.0 showing, intercepts in some way the control-alt-j sequence. Presumably, along with my comments to FS about this, they get it handled. :) Now, we have a way to circumvent the problem which, is, in this case, a JAWS one, but weird one, for sure which effects the convenience of jaws users who wish to use control-alt-j. I, initially, used control-alt-8 for jfw 8 since I have jfw5 on this machine also which already has control-alt-j assigned to it. Curtis Delzer At 04:01 PM 11/25/2006, you wrote: Actually Alex, Thank Curtis Deltzer, he had the idea to do it with narrator. Rick ----- Original Message ----- From: Rick Harmon To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2006 6:57 PM Subject: Re: strange problem with jaws 8 and ctrl+alt+j hotkey Well my apologies then, it must be something to do with the way JAWS is handleing the keyboard now. Very puzzleing but if narater worked then it's definately a JAWS issue. Rick ----- Original Message ----- From: Alex Stone To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2006 6:27 PM Subject: RE: strange problem with jaws 8 and ctrl+alt+j hotkey Rick, You are indeed quite correct, doing it with narrator worked a treat, and I now have the shortcut key I wanted all along ctrl+shift+j. I'll send freedom Scientific a message about it. Cheers. Alex -----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [ mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Rick Harmon Sent: 25 November 2006 17:41 To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: strange problem with jaws 8 and ctrl+alt+j hotkey Alex, Try unloading JAWS 8 with Insert + F4 and using narrator with Windows key + U and see if you can change the properties successfully. If you can then JAWS has something to do with it. IF not then its something else. Rick ----- Original Message ----- From: Alex Stone To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2006 8:48 AM Subject: RE: strange problem with jaws 8 and ctrl+alt+j hotkey John, Yes, many many times! Cheers. Alex -----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [ mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of John Brewer Sent: 24 November 2006 23:55 To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: strange problem with jaws 8 and ctrl+alt+j hotkey Alex have you tried another ShortCut Key? John ----- Original Message ----- From: Alex Stone To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Friday, November 24, 2006 5:13 PM Subject: RE: strange problem with jaws 8 and ctrl+alt+j hotkey Rick, Have you been following this thread. I'm sick and tired of the number of times I've had to explain that I've checked all the desktop icons to make sure nothing has the keystroke assigned to it. I've also used shortcut detective from the jfwlite website to determine that there is no shortcut on my system that has the ctrl+shift+j keystroke assigned to it. Cheers. Alex -----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [ mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Rick Harmon Sent: 24 November 2006 22:54 To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: strange problem with jaws 8 and ctrl+alt+j hotkey I disagree, JAWS has absolutely nothing to do with properties on a desktop icon. That is either a MS issue or someone hasn't cleared the contro+Alt+j shortcut from another icon on the desktop. We can't blame every single issue to JAWS. Rick ----- Original Message ----- From: Alex Stone To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Friday, November 24, 2006 5:45 PM Subject: RE: strange problem with jaws 8 and ctrl+alt+j hotkey Rich, I'm coming to the conclusion as others already have that it must be a jaws problem. Cheers. Alex -----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [ mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Richard Sherman Sent: 24 November 2006 22:38 To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: strange problem with jaws 8 and ctrl+alt+j hotkey Hi Alex, Gave it a shot and came up short. Darn. Will give it more thought. Rich ----- Original Message ----- From: Alex Stone To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Friday, November 24, 2006 2:19 PM Subject: RE: strange problem with jaws 8 and ctrl+alt+j hotkey Richard, Unfortunately I find that that doesn't work either. Cheers. Alex