there is no way to have JAWS start as a service. if it is configured to start automatically in the options > basics dialog that is all you can do. It runs as a user process but you can still access the alt+ctrl+delete screen. This was the advadvantage that running as a service gave under windows xp. Roy ----- Original Message ----- From: Alvin To: JFW Sent: Monday, April 14, 2008 9:18 PM Subject: starting jaws as a service Hi I have jaws to start up automatically when window vista starts. How can I configure it to be run as a service? Jaws appears in the startup group in the MSCONFIG and not in the service group. I know the method of changing the command line of jaws to net start jfwservice. But this is different from my need, right? Thank you.