RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re: Bug FixesRe: jfw Digest V1 #386

  • From: "Phil Halton" <philhalt@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2004 11:59:47 -0500

Please, when responding to a message, take a minute to delete the junk below 
your response to avoid cluttering the digest.  Today's digest was 760 KB(3/4 
megabyte), with most of that being redundant messages attached along to your 
responses.  A little consideration for the digest users would be in order 
here, don't you think?


----- Original Message ----- 
To: "jfw digest users" <jfw-digest@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, December 31, 2004 2:09 AM
Subject: jfw Digest V1 #386


> jfw Digest Thu, 30 Dec 2004 Volume: 01  Issue: 386
>
> In This Issue:
> RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re: Bug Fixes
> RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re: Bug Fixes
> RE: sounds manager
> RE: sounds manager
> RE: difference between making a frame on a button & labeling
> Quick Note about CDRWIN
> digest clutter
> Re: Emailing: wavepad
> Re: Emailing: wavepad
> Command  prompt
> Re: Digest mode clutter
> Re: Command  prompt
> Re: AVG Anti Virus
> Re: Cakewalk info
> Re: AVG Anti Virus
> Re: AVG Anti Virus
> Re: Jaws for Iraq veterans!
> Re: JFW and the security testing products from grc.com
> Re: AVG Anti Virus
> Re: sounds manager
> Re: sounds manager
> Re: AVG Anti Virus
> Re: AVG Anti Virus
> Re: AVG Anti Virus
> Re: sounds manager
> Re: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re: Bug Fixes
> Re: Windows Up Date settings with JFW
> RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re: Bug Fixes
> Re: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re: Bug Fixes
> Re: Windows Up Date settings with JFW
> RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re: Bug Fixes
> Re: Windows Up Date settings with JFW
> Oe hotkey won't work in jaws 6.
> a blind friendly dvd player
> Re: Cakewalk info
> Re: AVG Anti Virus
> Re: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re: Bug Fixes
> Re: Windows Up Date settings with JFW
> RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re: Bug Fixes
> Re: Oe hotkey won't work in jaws 6.
> Re: sounds manager
> RE: Jaws reading bold type?
> Re: sounds manager
> RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re: Bug Fixes
> Re: sounds manager
> RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re: Bug Fixes
> Re: sounds manager
> Re: sounds manager
> Re: Windows Up Date settings with JFW
> Re: JFW and the security testing products from grc.com
> Re: Jaws for Iraq veterans!
> Re: Oe hotkey won't work in jaws 6.
> Re: Windows Up Date settings with JFW
> laptop hotkey question
> how do i use windows media player with my jaws.
> Re: laptop hotkey question
> RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re: Bug Fixes
> Re: Oe hotkey won't work in jaws 6.
> move to message field script
> Re: Oe hotkey won't work in jaws 6.
> I am still confused about using windows media player with ja
> Re: Jfw and faxes
> Re: Oe hotkey won't work in jaws 6.
> Help with Ad Aware SE
> Re: Help with Ad Aware SE
> Adobe
> Re: JFW and the security testing products from grc.com
> Re: I am still confused about using windows media player wit
> Re: Adobe
> Re: AVG Anti Virus
> Re: Help with Ad Aware SE
> re: grc.com
> Re: Adobe
> Re: laptop hotkey question
> re: grc.com
> Re: laptop hotkey question
> Re: Adobe
> RE: AVG Anti Virus
> Re: how do i use windows media player with my jaws.
> Re: AVG Anti Virus
> front page express
> Re: AVG Anti Virus
> Re: JFW and the security testing products from grc.com
> Re: grc.com
> Spy Sweeper
> Re: Spy Sweeper
> Re: front page express
> Re: sounds manager
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> From: "Horspool, Matthew F." <drjaws@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re: Bug Fixes in 
> JAWS 6
> Date: Thu, 30 Dec 2004 08:26:08 -0000
>
> OK, I thought I got it right, but when I interrogated the system this
> line came up:
> Processor: x86 Family 15 Model 2 Stepping 7 GenuineIntel ~2532 MhZ
>
> If I interpreted this line correctly I have a 2532MhZ processor!
>
> -------------------------
> Mr. Matthew F. Horspool
>
> Send me an Electronic Mail to
> drjaws@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
> Add
> horspool@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> to your MSN contact list
>
> Or Visit my web site at
> http://www.horspool.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk
> -------------------------
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> Behalf Of Chip Orange
> Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 5:13 PM
> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re: Bug Fixes in
> JAWS 6.0
>
>
> If you got that right (and it's not a typo) and your processor speed was
> only 256 mhz, then I could see why switching to a hardware synthesizer
> had such an improvement for you.  That was quite a load for your system.
>
> Chip
>
> =20
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=20  [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>>On Behalf Of Horspool, Matthew F.
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 12:05 PM
>> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re:=20  Bug
>>Fixes in JAWS 6.0 =20
>> Well I had 512MB RAM and about 256MHZ Processors.  Running at=20
>> once I had a copy of WinAmp with the Audio stocker and=20
>> SHOUTcast plugin, Microsoft Outlook, SHOUTcast DNAS (GUI),=20
>> BVentrilo and the Ventrilo Server, and a copy of JFW.  This=20
>> slowed down the system quite a bit.
>>=20
>> -------------------------
>> Mr. Matthew F. Horspool
>> =20
>> Send me an Electronic Mail to
>> drjaws@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> =20
>> Add
>> horspool@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> to your MSN contact list
>> =20
>> Or Visit my web site at
>> http://www.horspool.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk
>> -------------------------
>>=20
>>=20
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=20
>> [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Chip Orange
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 4:38 PM
>> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re:=20
>> Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0
>>=20
>>=20
>> Ok,  this is the first opinion which strongly prefers one to=20
>> another for other than subjective reasons, and I appreciate it.
>>=20
>> Would you say the system you were using when you made the=20
>> switch was unusually slow, short of ram, or overloaded with=20
>> processing tasks?
>>=20
>> Thanks.
>>=20
>> Chip
>>=20
>> =3D20
>>=20
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D20 =20
>> [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]=20
>> >On Behalf Of Horspool, Matthew F.
>> > Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 11:30 AM
>> > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > Subject: RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re:=3D20  =
> Bug=20
>> >Fixes in JAWS 6.0 =3D20  Used DECtalk ACCESS32 for about a=20
>> year and then=20
>> >switched to a=3D20  DECtalk USB for to get better broadcast=20
>> clarity.  I=20
>> >certainly=3D20  have noticed a huge difference in responsiveness:  =
> The=20
>> >DEC=3D20  USB is faster - a lot faster!
>> >=3D20
>> > -------------------------
>> > Mr. Matthew F. Horspool
>> > =3D20
>> > Send me an Electronic Mail to
>> > drjaws@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > =3D20
>> > Add
>> > horspool@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > to your MSN contact list
>> > =3D20
>> > Or Visit my web site at  http://www.horspool.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk
>> > -------------------------
>> >=3D20
>> >=3D20
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D20
>> > [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of John Miller
>> > Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 4:20 PM
>> > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > Subject: Re: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re:=3D20  =
> Bug=20
>> >Fixes in JAWS 6.0 =3D20 =3D20  I don't notice it if so.
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: "Chip Orange" <Corange@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 10:47 AM
>> > Subject: RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re:=3D20  =
> Bug=20
>> >Fixes in =3D20  JAWS 6.0 =3D20 =3D20
>> > > Yes; and they do use some processor time.  The question is that=20
>
>> > > on=3D20 todays systems, which usually have plenty of =
> processor=3D20
>> > speed and RAM,=3D20
>> > > does that really make any difference?
>> > >
>> > > Now, I know that it does from reports on AT&T Natural
>> > > Voices=3D20=20 specifically, but I was wondering about Eloquence.
>> > >
>> > > Thanks.
>> > >
>> > > Chip
>> > >
>> > > =3D3D20
>> > >
>> > >> -----Original Message-----
>> > >> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D3D20 =3D20
>> > [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]=3D20
>> > >>On Behalf Of Flor Lynch
>> > >> Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2004 9:00 PM
>> > >> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > >> Subject: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re:=3D20
>> > Bug=3D3D20  Fixes
>> >=3D20
>> > >>in JAWS 6.0 =3D3D20
>> > >> Software synths take up more RAM than hardware ones do.
>> > >> ----- Original Message -----
>> > >> From: "Chip Orange" <Corange@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > >> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > >> Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2004 2:22 PM
>> > >> Subject: RE: Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0
>> > >>=3D3D20
>> > >>=3D3D20
>> > >> Well, no argument with your first point, it is more=3D20
>> > difficult to have =3D20
>> > >>all of the sound coming out of one source; but, when you=3D20
>> > need to use =3D20
>> > >>headphones so as not to disturb someone else, it's also =
> more=3D3D20=20
>> > >>=3D20 convenient. =3D3D20  As for your second, that just=20
>> seems to come=20
>> > >>down to personal=3D3D20
>> =3D20
>> > >>preference  as it doesn't bother me a bit.
>> > >>=3D3D20
>> > >> There is one which you didn't mention, but which I've=3D20
>> > always wondered =3D20
>> > >>about, and that's how much of a load does Eloquence place=3D20
>> > on=3D3D20  your=3D20
>> > >>system  by having the software synth as compared to sending=3D20
>> > the text=3D20
>> > >>to be  spoken out of the serial port?  Anyone have any facts=20
>> > >>along=3D20 this
>> > line?
>> > >>=3D3D20
>> > >> Thanks.
>> > >>=3D3D20
>> > >> Chip
>> > >>=3D3D20
>> > >> =3D3D3D20
>> > >>=3D3D20
>> > >> > -----Original Message-----
>> > >> > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D3D3D20=3D20
>> > >> >[mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Kerri
>> > >> > Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2004 2:04 AM
>> > >> > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > >> > Subject: Re: Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0 =3D3D3D20  Hello  Chip. I=20
>
>> > >> >despise software synthesizers mainly=3D20
>> > because=3D3D3D20 if=3D20
>> > >> >you are required to listen to other media, I find it=20
>> to=3D3D3D20=3D20=20
>> > >> >difficult to with a software synthesizer coming through=20
>> the=3D3D3D20
>>=20
>> > >> >=3D
>>=20
>> > >> >same speakers. I also dislike elloquence's voice, *all of them*
>> > >> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > >> > From: "Chip Orange" <Corange@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > >> > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > >> > Sent: Monday, December 27, 2004 12:02 PM
>> > >> > Subject: RE: Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0 =3D3D3D20 =3D3D3D20  I'm=20
>> > >> >interested in hearing why, as I use a DT express at=3D20
>> > work,=3D3D3D20
>> >=3D20
>> > >> >and eloquence at home, and really haven't felt there's=20
>> much=3D3D3D20
>>=20
>> > >> >=3D
>>=20
>> > >> >difference.  Perhaps there's just something I'm=20
>> missing? =3D3D3D20 =20
>> > >> >Thanks.
>> > >> >=3D3D3D20
>> > >> > Chip
>> > >> >=3D3D3D20
>> > >> > =3D3D3D3D20
>> > >> >=3D3D3D20
>> > >> > > -----Original Message-----
>> > >> > > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D3D3D3D20=3D20
>> > >> > >[mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Kerri
>> > >> > > Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2004 12:17 AM
>> > >> > > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > >> > > Subject: Re: Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0 =3D3D3D3D20  Chris, I=3D20
>> > vehemently=3D20
>> > >> > >despise software synthesizers hence=3D3D3D20
>> > >> > my=3D3D3D3D20  dectalk=3D3D3D20
>> > >> > >use and this is the only version that has been =3D
>> rather=3D3D3D3D20=3D3D20
>> > >>  sluggish.
>> > >> > > ----- Original Message -----
>> > >> > > From: "Chris Skarstad" <toonhead5@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > >> > > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > >> > > Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2004 4:15 PM
>> > >> > > Subject: Re: Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0 =3D3D3D3D20 =3D3D3D3D20 =
> =3D20
>> > man I guess=3D20
>> > >> > >I'm very lucky then. This version actually runs =3D3D
>> > > a=3D3D3D3D20
>> > >> =3D3D3D20
>> > >> > >little faster on my system than 5.10 did. Then again=3D3D20
>> > >> I'm=3D3D3D3D20  using
>> > >> =3D3D3D
>> > >> a=3D3D3D20
>> > >> > >hardware synthesizer which is probably the=20
>> reason.=3D3D3D3D20  =3D3D
>> > > Never=3D3D3D20
>> > >> > did like=3D3D3D20
>> > >> > >software speech and never will based on what=3D3D3D3D20=20
>>  I've=3D3D20
>> > >> seen.  By the
>> > >> =3D3D3D
>> > >>=3D3D20
>> > >> > >way, the murge feature is there. go to=3D3D3D3D20  your=20
>> jaws=3D3D20
>> > >> window with =3D3D3D
>> > >> alt=3D3D3D20
>> > >> > >plus j, press alt u for utilities,=3D3D3D3D20  and it's =
> in=3D3D20
>> > >> there. or simply
>> > >> =3D3D3D
>> > >>=3D3D20
>> > >> > >bring up the context menu if=3D3D3D3D20  you're running=20
>> jaws in =3D
>> =3D3D
>> > > the=3D3D3D20
>> > >> > system tray=3D3D3D20
>> > >> > >and go to utilities=3D3D3D3D20  and the murge utility=20
>> is there.=3D20
>>=20
>> > >> > >=3D3D3D3D20  At 04:29 PM 12/21/2004, you wrote:
>> > >> > > >Hay, you mean, they haven't fixed any right? I'm=3D20
>> > sorry, I=3D3D3D3D20
>> > >> > > just couldn't=3D3D3D3D20
>> > >> > > >resist. In truth, this has been the worst version =
> I've=3D3D20
>> > >> had the=3D3D3D3D20
>> > >> =3D3D3D
>> > >>=3D3D20
>> > >> > > >misfortune to deal with in a long while. It runs=3D3D20
>> > >> terribley slow,=3D3D3D20
>> > >> > > >I'm=3D3D3D3D20 getting false attachments, no merge=20
>> feature=3D3D20
>> > >> anywhere. I=3D3D3D20
>> > >> > > >love=3D3D3D3D20
>> > >> > > spending=3D3D3D3D20
>> > >> > > >money on this "improved" product. Sorry, I'm being a grinch.
>> > >> > > >----- Original Message -----
>> > >> > > >From: "RJ" <rjf1@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > >> > > >To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > >> > > >Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2004 2:16 PM
>> > >> > > >Subject: Re: Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0
>> > >> > > >
>> > >> > > >
>> > >> > > >You are looking right, there just isn't any bugs.=3D20
>> > Smiling here.
>> > >> > > >----- Original Message -----
>> > >> > > >From: "Margaret Thomas" <iluvtoread@xxxxxxx>
>> > >> > > >To: "jfw" <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > >> > > >Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2004 4:15 PM
>> > >> > > >Subject: Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0
>> > >> > > >
>> > >> > > >
>> > >> > > > > Good Afternoon,
>> > >> > > > >
>> > >> > > > >     I had a migraine when JAWS 6.0 was released =
> and=3D3D20
>> > >> am trying=3D3D3D20
>> > >> > > > > to=3D3D3D3D20 catch up with list mail before=3D20
>> > installing the new =3D3D
>> > > =3D3D3D
>> > >> release.
>> > >> > > > >
>> > >> > > > >     I've looked over the What's New section for
>> > >> > > > > 6.0=3D20=20 and=3D3D3D3D20
>> > >> > > could swear=3D3D3D3D20
>> > >> > > > > that there used to be a section on bug fixes, but I'm =
> =3D3D
>> > > not=3D3D3D3D20
>> > >> > > finding it=3D3D3D3D20
>> > >> > > > > for this version.  Am I having another senior moment, =
> =3D3D
>> > > or=3D3D3D3D20
>> > >> > > did FS not=3D3D3D3D20
>> > >> > > > > do it this time, or am I looking in the wrong=3D20
>> > place on=3D3D3D3D20
>> > >> > > the FS site? =3D3D3D3D20
>> > >> > > > > I've been looking at:
>> > >> > > > >
>> > >> > > > >
>> > >> > >=20
>> >http://www.freedomscientific.com/fs_products/software_jaws60f
>> > >> > > ea.asp#JAW
>> > >> > > >S_Features
>> > >> > > > >
>> > >> > > > >     Thanks,
>> > >> > > > > Margaret
>> > >> > > > > iluvtoread@xxxxxxx
>> > >> > > > >
>> > >> > > > > --
>> > >> > > > > To post a message to the list, send it to=3D3D3D20
>> > >> > jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To=3D3D3D3D20=3D3D3D20
>> > >> > > > > unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to
>> > >> > > >jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe
>> > >> > > >in=3D20=20 the=3D3D3D3D20
>> > >> > > subject line.
>> > >> > > > > Archives located at:=20
>> //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
>> > >> > > > >
>> > >> > > > > If you have any concerns about the list, post =3D
>> received=3D3D3D20
>> > >> > from the=3D3D3D3D20=3D3D3D20
>> > >> > > > > list, or
>> > >> > > >the way the list is being run, do not post them to
>> > >> > > >the=3D20=20 list.=3D3D3D20 Rather=3D3D3D3D20 contact the
>> > >> > > >list owner =
> at=3D20=20
>> > >> > > >jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > >> > > > >
>> > >> > > >
>> > >> > > >--
>> > >> > > >To post a message to the list, send it to=3D3D20
>> > >> jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To=3D3D3D3D20
>> > >> =3D3D3D
>> > >>=3D3D20
>> > >> > > >unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message=3D20=20
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>> > >> > > >or the way the list is being run, do not post them to=3D20
>> > the=3D3D3D3D20
>> > >> > > list. Rather=3D3D3D3D20
>> > >> > > >contact the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > >> > > >
>> > >> > > >
>> > >> > > >--
>> > >> > > >No virus found in this incoming message.
>> > >> > > >Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.
>> > >> > > >Version: 7.0.296 / Virus Database: 265.6.3 - Release=3D20
>> > Date:=3D3D3D20
>> > >> > 12/21/2004
>> > >> > > >
>> > >> > > >
>> > >> > > >
>> > >> > > >
>> > >> > > >--
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>> > >> > > >Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.
>> > >> > > >Version: 7.0.296 / Virus Database: 265.6.3 - Release=3D20
>> > Date:=3D3D3D20
>> > >> > 12/21/2004
>> > >> > > >
>> > >> > > >--
>> > >> > > >To post a message to the list, send it to=3D3D20
>> > >> jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To=3D3D3D3D20
>> > >> =3D3D3D
>> > >>=3D3D20
>> > >> > > >unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message=3D20=20
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>> the word=3D20=20
>> > >> > > >unsubscribe in the=3D3D3D3D20
>> > >> > > subject line.
>> > >> > > >Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
>> > >> > > >
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>> > > from=3D3D3D3D20
>> > >> > > the list,=3D3D3D3D20
>> > >> > > >or the way the list is being run, do not post them to=3D20
>> > the=3D3D3D3D20
>> > >> > > list. Rather=3D3D3D3D20
>> > >> > > >contact the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > >> > >=3D3D3D3D20
>> > >> > > --
>> > >> > > To post a message to the list, send it to=3D3D20
>> > >> jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D3D3D3D20  To
>> > >> =3D3D3D
>> > >>=3D3D20
>> > >> > >unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message=3D20
>> > to=3D3D3D3D20 =3D3D3D20
>> >=3D20
>> > >> > >jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe =
> in=3D3D3D20
>> > >> > the=3D3D3D3D20  subject=3D3D3D20
>> > >> > >line.
>> > >> > > Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
>> > >> > >=3D3D3D3D20
>> > >> > > If you have any concerns about the list, post received=3D3D20
>> > >> from=3D3D3D3D20  =3D3D3D
>> > >> the=3D3D3D20
>> > >> > >list, or the way the list is being run, do not post=3D3D20
>> > >> them=3D3D3D3D20  to the
>> > >> =3D3D3D
>> > >>=3D3D20
>> > >> > >list. Rather contact the list owner at=3D3D3D3D20  =3D3D3D
>> > >> jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > >> > >=3D3D3D3D20
>> > >> > >=3D3D3D3D20
>> > >> > > --
>> > >> > > No virus found in this incoming message.
>> > >> > > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.
>> > >> > > Version: 7.0.296 / Virus Database: 265.6.3 - Release =3D
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>
> From: "Horspool, Matthew F." <drjaws@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re: Bug Fixes  in 
> JAWS6
> Date: Thu, 30 Dec 2004 08:40:41 -0000
>
> Actually people *do* sell these synths on EBay!
>
> -------------------------
> Mr. Matthew F. Horspool
>
> Send me an Electronic Mail to
> drjaws@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
> Add
> horspool@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> to your MSN contact list
>
> Or Visit my web site at
> http://www.horspool.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk
> -------------------------
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> Behalf Of Pranav Lal
> Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 12:04 AM
> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re: Bug Fixes in
> JAWS6.0
>
>
> any one selling these synths on ebay? <grin
>
> Pranav
> At 03:23 AM 12/30/2004, Cy wrote:
> John,
> Hmm, you and I must be in the same boat trying to survive the flood. Cy,
> the Ancient Okie...
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> Behalf Of John Miller
> Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 12:55 PM
> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re: Bug Fixes in
> JAWS 6.0
>
>
> I wish I had your money, I could burn mine, if there was any to burn,
> I'd love a dectalk USB, or express but that's not going to happen in
> this life time.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Horspool, Matthew F." <drjaws@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 11:30 AM
> Subject: RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re: Bug Fixes in
>
> JAWS 6.0
>
>
> > Used DECtalk ACCESS32 for about a year and then switched to a DECtalk
>> USB for to get better broadcast clarity.  I certainly have noticed a
>> huge difference in responsiveness:  The DEC USB is faster - a lot  >
> faster!  >  > -------------------------  > Mr. Matthew F. Horspool  >  >
> Send me an Electronic Mail to  > drjaws@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx  >  > Add  >
> horspool@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx  > to your MSN contact list  >  > Or Visit my
> web site at http://www.horspool.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk
> > -------------------------
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
>> Behalf Of John Miller  > Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 4:20 PM  >
> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx  > Subject: Re: software vs. hardware synthesizers
> - was - Re: Bug Fixes in  > JAWS 6.0  >  >  > I don't notice it if so.
>> ----- Original Message -----  > From: "Chip Orange"
> <Corange@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>  > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>  > Sent: Wednesday,
> December 29, 2004 10:47 AM  > Subject: RE: software vs. hardware
> synthesizers - was - Re: Bug Fixes in  >  > JAWS 6.0  >  >  >> Yes; and
> they do use some processor time.  The question is that on  >> todays
> systems, which usually have plenty of processor speed and RAM,  >> does
> that really make any difference?  >>  >> Now, I know that it does from
> reports on AT&T Natural Voices  >> specifically, but I was wondering
> about Eloquence.  >>  >> Thanks.  >>  >> Chip  >>  >> =20  >>  >>>
> -----Original Message-----  >>> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=20
> [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]  >>>On Behalf Of Flor Lynch  >>> Sent:
> Tuesday, December 28, 2004 9:00 PM  >>> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx  >>>
> Subject: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re: Bug=20 Fixes  >
>>>>in JAWS 6.0 =20  >>> Software synths take up more RAM than hardware
> ones do.  >>> ----- Original Message -----  >>> From: "Chip Orange"
> <Corange@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>  >>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>  >>> Sent:
> Tuesday, December 28, 2004 2:22 PM  >>> Subject: RE: Bug Fixes in JAWS
> 6.0  >>>=20  >>>=20  >>> Well, no argument with your first point, it is
> more difficult to have  >>> all of the sound coming out of one source;
> but, when you need to use  >>> headphones so as not to disturb someone
> else, it's also more=20  >>> convenient.  >>>=20  >>> As for your
> second, that just seems to come down to personal=20  >>> preference  >>>
> as it doesn't bother me a bit.  >>>=20  >>> There is one which you
> didn't mention, but which I've always wondered  >>> about, and that's
> how much of a load does Eloquence place on=20  >>> your system  >>> by
> having the software synth as compared to sending the text to be  >>>
> spoken out of the serial port?  Anyone have any facts along this  >
> line?  >>>=20  >>> Thanks.  >>>=20  >>> Chip  >>>=20  >>> =3D20  >>>=20
>>>> > -----Original Message-----  >>> > From:
> jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D20  >>> >[mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> Behalf Of Kerri  >>> > Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2004 2:04 AM  >>> >
> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx  >>> > Subject: Re: Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0  >>>
>>=3D20  >>> > Hello  Chip. I despise software synthesizers mainly
> because=3D20  >>> >if you are required to listen to other media, I find
> it to=3D20  >>> >difficult to with a software synthesizer coming through
> the=3D20  >>> >same speakers. I also dislike elloquence's voice, *all of
> them*  >>> > ----- Original Message -----  >>> > From: "Chip Orange"
> <Corange@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>  >>> > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>  >>> > Sent:
> Monday, December 27, 2004 12:02 PM  >>> > Subject: RE: Bug Fixes in JAWS
> 6.0  >>> >=3D20  >>> >=3D20  >>> > I'm interested in hearing why, as I
> use a DT express at work,=3D20  >  >>> >and eloquence at home, and
> really haven't felt there's much=3D20  >>> >difference.  Perhaps there's
> just something I'm missing?  >>> >=3D20  >>> > Thanks.  >>> >=3D20  >>>
>> Chip  >>> >=3D20  >>> > =3D3D20  >>> >=3D20  >>> > > -----Original
> Message-----  >>> > > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D3D20  >>> >
>>[mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Kerri  >>> > > Sent:
> Wednesday, December 22, 2004 12:17 AM  >>> > > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> > > Subject: Re: Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0  >>> > >=3D3D20  >>> > >
> Chris, I vehemently despise software synthesizers hence=3D20  >>> >
> my=3D3D20  dectalk=3D20  >>> > >use and this is the only version that
> has been rather=3D3D20=20  >>>  sluggish.  >>> > > ----- Original
> Message -----  >>> > > From: "Chris Skarstad" <toonhead5@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> > > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>  >>> > > Sent: Tuesday, December 21,
> 2004 4:15 PM  >>> > > Subject: Re: Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0  >>> > >=3D3D20
>>>> > >=3D3D20  >>> > > man I guess I'm very lucky then. This version
> actually runs =  >> a=3D3D20  >>> =3D20  >>> > >little faster on my
> system than 5.10 did. Then again=20  >>> I'm=3D3D20  using  >>> =3D  >>>
> a=3D20  >>> > >hardware synthesizer which is probably the reason.=3D3D20
> =  >> Never=3D20  >>> > did like=3D20  >>> > >software speech and never
> will based on what=3D3D20  I've=20  >>> seen.  By the  >>> =3D  >>>=20
>>>> > >way, the murge feature is there. go to=3D3D20  your jaws=20  >>>
> window with =3D  >>> alt=3D20  >>> > >plus j, press alt u for
> utilities,=3D3D20  and it's in=20  >>> there. or simply  >>> =3D  >>>=20
>>>> > >bring up the context menu if=3D3D20  you're running jaws in =  >>
> the=3D20  >>> > system tray=3D20  >>> > >and go to utilities=3D3D20  and
> the murge utility is there.  >>> > >=3D3D20  At 04:29 PM 12/21/2004, you
> wrote:  >>> > > >Hay, you mean, they haven't fixed any right? I'm sorry,
> I=3D3D20  >>> > > just couldn't=3D3D20  >>> > > >resist. In truth, this
> has been the worst version I've=20  >>> had the=3D3D20  >>> =3D  >>>=20
>>>> > > >misfortune to deal with in a long while. It runs=20  >>>
> terribley slow,=3D20  >>> > > >I'm=3D3D20 getting false attachments, no
> merge feature=20  >>> anywhere. I=3D20  >>> > > >love=3D3D20  >>> > >
> spending=3D3D20  >>> > > >money on this "improved" product. Sorry, I'm
> being a grinch.  >>> > > >----- Original Message -----  >>> > > >From:
> "RJ" <rjf1@xxxxxxxxxxxx>  >>> > > >To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>  >>> > >
>>Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2004 2:16 PM  >>> > > >Subject: Re: Bug
> Fixes in JAWS 6.0  >>> > > >  >>> > > >  >>> > > >You are looking right,
> there just isn't any bugs. Smiling here.  >>> > > >----- Original
> Message -----  >>> > > >From: "Margaret Thomas" <iluvtoread@xxxxxxx>
>>>> > > >To: "jfw" <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>  >>> > > >Sent: Tuesday, December
> 21, 2004 4:15 PM  >>> > > >Subject: Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0  >>> > > >
>>>> > > >  >>> > > > > Good Afternoon,  >>> > > > >
> >>> > > > >     I had a migraine when JAWS 6.0 was released and=20
> >>> am trying=3D20
> >>> > > > > to=3D3D20 catch up with list mail before installing the new
> =  >> =3D  >>> release.  >>> > > > >
> >>> > > > >     I've looked over the What's New section for 6.0
> >>> > > > > and=3D3D20
> >>> > > could swear=3D3D20
> >>> > > > > that there used to be a section on bug fixes, but I'm =  >>
> not=3D3D20  >>> > > finding it=3D3D20  >>> > > > > for this version.  Am
> I having another senior moment, =  >> or=3D3D20  >>> > > did FS
> not=3D3D20  >>> > > > > do it this time, or am I looking in the wrong
> place on=3D3D20  >>> > > the FS site? =3D3D20  >>> > > > > I've been
> looking at:  >>> > > > >  >>> > > > >  >>> > >
>>http://www.freedomscientific.com/fs_products/software_jaws60f
> >>> > > ea.asp#JAW
> >>> > > >S_Features
> >>> > > > >
> >>> > > > >     Thanks,
> >>> > > > > Margaret
> >>> > > > > iluvtoread@xxxxxxx
> >>> > > > >
> >>> > > > > --
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> From: "Horspool, Matthew F." <drjaws@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: RE: sounds manager
> Date: Thu, 30 Dec 2004 09:01:55 -0000
>
> From config manager, press CTRL+SHFT+D.  Now press ALT+S and DownArrow
> to "Speech and Sounds Manager" and press ENTER.  Now you're there.
> Select "classic" from the list of schemes that should have focus.  Now
> press Tab, then ENTER.  Press CTRL+TAB and select your control type
> (slider, button).  Press tab and select an action (Ignore, play a sound,
> change the voice...).  If you've selected "voice" or "sound", press tab,
> then enter.  There should be a list, select what you want.  If you are
> choosing a sound, press the SPACEBAR over the sound to play it.  When
> you're done, press ENTER.  TAB to "OK" and press it.  TAB to "SAVE" and
> press it.  You're done!
>
> -------------------------
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> Behalf Of chevelle
> Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 1:19 AM
> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: sounds manager
>
>
> That doesn't explain how you choose the default.
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "david poehlman" <david.poehlman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 7:50 PM
> Subject: Re: sounds manager
>
>
>> default is classic.
>>
>> Johnnie Apple Seed
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "chevelle" <chevelle33@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 7:36 PM
>> Subject: Re: sounds manager
>>
>>
>> How do you choose the default, and how do you get to the speech and
>> sounds manager?
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "david poehlman" <david.poehlman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 6:26 PM
>> Subject: Re: sounds manager
>>
>>
>>> speech and sounds manager is simple but there are a lot of choices to
>>> make
>>> or to choose from among.  You must look through it and figure out
> what yu
>>> want to do.  It is not hard to do any of it and you must also choose
> the
>>> app
>>> you intend to work with.  Choose default if you wish by opening the
>>> default
>>> configuration manager and choosing speech and sounds manager and
> opening
>>> it
>>> up, click edit scheme button and press space, the first tab is the
>>> general
>>> tab and you can leave the description the way it is, ctrl+tab to the
>>> other
>>> pages and look through the options and things you can ghance and
> decide
>>> what
>>> to change.  If you want to change the way a slider sounds for
> instance,
>>> go
>>> to the bottom of the list on the first page and then tab to the group
> of
>>> four radio buttons and select the one you want the bahavior for.
> Play
>>> sound
>>> is at the bottom, and for that, you must choose a wav file with the
> next
>>> button in tab order.  Once yu are done with the settings, click ok
> and ok
>>> again if need be, close and save.
>>>
>>> Johnnie Apple Seed
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: <ptusing@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 5:40 PM
>>> Subject: sounds manager
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>> Could some one for the sake of argument go through like  the  steps
>>> in order for setting the sounds  manager to put a sound on to let's
>>> say something useful.
>>> Thanks.
>>> I was looking for this info as in sounds manager  in the JAWS  6 help
>>> topics.
>>>
>>>
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> ------------------------------
>
> From: "Horspool, Matthew F." <drjaws@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: RE: sounds manager
> Date: Thu, 30 Dec 2004 09:02:43 -0000
>
> Same steps
>
> -------------------------
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>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> Behalf Of Djasister2@xxxxxxx
> Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 3:12 AM
> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: sounds manager
>
>
> I would like this for 5.1 please.
>
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> ------------------------------
>
> From: "Horspool, Matthew F." <drjaws@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: RE: difference between making a frame on a button & labeling a 
> prompt
> Date: Thu, 30 Dec 2004 09:03:23 -0000
>
> There wouldn't be a point.
>
> -------------------------
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>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> Behalf Of ptusing@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 10:38 PM
> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: difference between making a frame on a button & labeling a
> prompt
>
>
> Hi,
> With all this discussion of using
> control shift tab to label parts of a page,
> then what is the point of creating a  framet o label some button or
> control? I  was reading "creating a frame" in JAWS help and there was
> discussion of labeling a button there.
>
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> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Thu, 30 Dec 2004 03:07:32 -0600 (CST)
> From: Bruce Toews <water_drinker@xxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Quick Note about CDRWIN
>
> Just a quick note about CDRWIN, because this subject was discussed here
> earlier.
>
> The homepage at www.goldenhawk.com is now up and running again. Enjoy.
>
> Bruce
>
> -- 
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> Web Site (including info on my weekly commentaries): http://www.ogts.net
> For the best oldies anywhere visit http://www.treasureislandoldies.com
>
> ------------------------------
>
> From: "jean parkar" <disabilityradio@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: digest clutter
> Date: Thu, 30 Dec 2004 14:39:21 +0530
>
> I have also complained about this privately to the list owner but to no 
> avail.  It's so bad that I have considered leaving the list on more than 
> one occasion. But every time I think about dropping the list there is 
> something on it that I really benefit from.  I have had some success at 
> navigating by using the find command and looking for the particular 
> subject lines I might be interested in.  But this is by no means 
> satisfactory.
> Something must be done and soon!
>
> Jean Parker,
> Pune, India
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> From: "Steve" <PapaSchnelle@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: Emailing: wavepad
> Date: Thu, 30 Dec 2004 04:21:59 -0600
>
> Thanks for the heads up on that one. I'm just kind of  getting an idea of
> what to get to transfer things from cassette and reel to reel to CD. I've
> got a lot of original songs on reel to reel as well as college and 
> nostalgic
> info on cassette I would like to immortalize. Any suggestions?
>
> Steve
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Ray Foret Jr." <rforetjr@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 8:28 PM
> Subject: Re: Emailing: wavepad
>
>
>> Sound recorder is crap.  It records directly to RAM rather than your hard
>> drive; for one thing.  You can't do anything with it really...not
> seriously
>> anyhow.
>>
>> Sincerely Yours,
>>
>> The Constantly BAREFOOTED
>> Ray
>>
>> Home Phone And Fax:  (985)853-0139
>> E-mail and Windows Messenger:
>> rforetjr@xxxxxxxxx
>>
>> God Bless President George W Bush
>> God Bless America
>> And God Bless Our Troops
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Steve" <PapaSchnelle@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 8:22 PM
>> Subject: Re: Emailing: wavepad
>>
>>
>> I guess what I'm thinking of is a multi track recorder and I think Cake
> Walk
>> is the only one of those; Pretty expensive though I've found out. Another
>> friend of mine suggested Sound recorder or something like that. Has 
>> anyone
>> heard of that program?
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "dennis" <dennis.cornelison@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 7:53 AM
>> Subject: Re: Emailing: wavepad
>>
>>
>> > you can't burn cd's with goldwave but you can record anything.
>> > ----- Original Message ----- 
>> > From: "Steve" <PapaSchnelle@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2004 7:15 PM
>> > Subject: Re: Emailing: wavepad
>> >
>> >
>> > > Thanks for responding. Another question though, would Goldwave record
>> > > stuff
>> > > like instruments and vocals and burn them on C D?
>> > > Steve
>> > >
>> > > ----- Original Message ----- 
>> > > From: "dennis" <dennis.cornelison@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > > Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2004 7:59 AM
>> > > Subject: Re: Emailing: wavepad
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >> i would say goldwave.
>> > >> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> > >> From: "Steve" <PapaSchnelle@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > >> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > >> Sent: Monday, December 27, 2004 5:29 PM
>> > >> Subject: Re: Emailing: wavepad
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> > Jack, can you actually transfer music and stuff from cassette to C
> D
>> > > with
>> > >> > this program? If not, which one would anyone recommend?
>> > >> >
>> > >> > Steve
>> > >> > ----- Original Message ----- 
>> > >> > From: "Jack Lowe" <akronjack1982@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > >> > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > >> > Sent: Sunday, December 26, 2004 9:06 AM
>> > >> > Subject: Emailing: wavepad
>> > >> >
>> > >> >
>> > >> >> Content-Type: text/plain;
>> > >> >> charset="iso-8859-1"
>> > >> >> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
>> > >> >> Hello Everyone,
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> If you happen to be a huge music fan as I am, and you love to do
>> your
>> > >> >> =
>> > >> >> own editing.  Then you will love this program.  It's completely
> free
>> > > for
>> > >> >> =
>> > >> >> as long as you use it.  95% of this programs features are free.
> The
>> =
>> > >> >> ones that you have to pay for, I've never needed or wanted.  And,
>> it's
>> > > =
>> > >> >> completely Jaws friendly.  Here's a little info about this 
>> > >> >> program
> =
>> > >> >> called Wave Pad.   Jack
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> WavePad is a sound editor program for Windows. This software lets
>> you
>> > >> >> =
>> > >> >> make and edit voice and other audio recordings. You can cut, copy
>> and
>> > >> >> =
>> > >> >> paste parts
>> > >> >> of recording and, if required, add effects like echo,
> amplification
>> > >> >> and
>> > > =
>> > >> >> noise reduction.
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> WavePad is designed to be very easy and intuitive to use. Within
>> > > minutes
>> > >> >> =
>> > >> >> you will be able to open or record a file and edit it. But if you
>> take
>> > > =
>> > >> >> time to
>> > >> >> explore the other features you will find many powerful tools
>> designed
>> > >> >> =
>> > >> >> with the professional sound engineer in mind.
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> A full list of WavePad's features follow but a quick way to try 
>> > >> >> it
>> out
>> > > =
>> > >> >> is to download and install now. You don't need to purchase and it
>> only
>> > > =
>> > >> >> takes a couple
>> > >> >> of minutes to complete the process (
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> WavePad is free.
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> We make WavePad free in the hope you will like it so much you 
>> > >> >> will
>> be
>> > >> >> =
>> > >> >> tempted to upgrade to WavePad Masters Edition. The Masters 
>> > >> >> Edition
>> has
>> > > =
>> > >> >> additional
>> > >> >> effects and features designed with the professional sound 
>> > >> >> engineer
>> in
>> > >> >> =
>> > >> >> mind.
>> > >> >> *Features*
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> List of 9 items
>> > >> >> . Supports a number of file formats including wav (multiple
> codecs),
>> =
>> > >> >> mp3, vox, gsm, real audio, au, aif and more.
>> > >> >> . Edit functions include Cut, Copy, Paste, Delete, Insert,
> Silence,
>> =
>> > >> >> AutoTrim and others.
>> > >> >> . Effects include, Amplify, Normalize, Equaliser, Envelope,
> Reverb,
>> =
>> > >> >> Echo, Reverse, Noise Reduction, Sample Rate Conversion and more.
>> > >> >> . Supports sample rates from 6000 to 96000Hz, stereo or mono, 8,
> 16
>> or
>> > > =
>> > >> >> 32 bits.
>> > >> >> . Ability to work with multiple files at the same time in 
>> > >> >> seperate
> =
>> > >> >> screens.
>> > >> >> . Includes a CD ripper to load audio directly and quickly from 
>> > >> >> CD.
>> > >> >> . CD Burner function allows you to burn your sound files to CD.
>> > >> >> . Player includes Scrub/Cue control for precise editing.
>> > >> >> . Recorder supports autotrim and voice activated recording.
>> > >> >> list end
>> > >> >> The message is ready to be sent with the following file or link =
>> > >> >> attachments:
>> > >> >> Shortcut to: http://www.nch.com.au/wavepad/
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> Note: To protect against computer viruses, e-mail programs may
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> ------------------------------
>
> From: "Ray Foret Jr." <rforetjr@xxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: Emailing: wavepad
> Date: Thu, 30 Dec 2004 05:07:03 -0600
>
> Well, if you don't mind being just very basic, Gold Wave would be a nice
> choice for the low end of the spectrum.  It has a fairly decent click and
> pop suppressor and noise reduction feature which might work well for you;
> however, if you don't mind coughing up a little more (say about $290.00 or
> so) Sound Forge is a very nice choice which would serve you well.  I would
> recommend adobe Audition version 1.5; but, I honestly can't do that 
> because
> unlike version 1.0, there appear to be some major focus change events 
> which
> JAWS is not able to see and every time you go in to the multitrack
> environment, JAWS gets forced out of RAM.  I've talked to FS tech support
> about this issue and got nowhere.  Also, I got nowhere with the people 
> over
> at Adobe either.  The reason I got nowhere; or so I suspect; is due to the
> high probability that there is not a single accessibility person on the
> Adobe Audition development team.  As a consequence, that development team
> neither knows or could care less about what ever accessibility issues we 
> may
> have with the program.  It's a shame too because that program has a lot of
> potential which, with out accessibility, goes unrealized.
>
>    Some here have mentioned Cake Walk.  I believe the present version is
> called Sonar; could be mistaken about that.
>
>
>
>    From what I hear, it's supposed to be a multitrack environment too; not
> sure about that.
>
> Sincerely Yours,
>
> The Constantly BAREFOOTED
> Ray
>
> Home Phone And Fax:  (985)853-0139
> E-mail and Windows Messenger:
> rforetjr@xxxxxxxxx
>
> God Bless President George W Bush
> God Bless America
> And God Bless Our Troops
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Steve" <PapaSchnelle@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 4:21 AM
> Subject: Re: Emailing: wavepad
>
>
> Thanks for the heads up on that one. I'm just kind of  getting an idea of
> what to get to transfer things from cassette and reel to reel to CD. I've
> got a lot of original songs on reel to reel as well as college and 
> nostalgic
> info on cassette I would like to immortalize. Any suggestions?
>
> Steve
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Ray Foret Jr." <rforetjr@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 8:28 PM
> Subject: Re: Emailing: wavepad
>
>
>> Sound recorder is crap.  It records directly to RAM rather than your hard
>> drive; for one thing.  You can't do anything with it really...not
> seriously
>> anyhow.
>>
>> Sincerely Yours,
>>
>> The Constantly BAREFOOTED
>> Ray
>>
>> Home Phone And Fax:  (985)853-0139
>> E-mail and Windows Messenger:
>> rforetjr@xxxxxxxxx
>>
>> God Bless President George W Bush
>> God Bless America
>> And God Bless Our Troops
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Steve" <PapaSchnelle@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 8:22 PM
>> Subject: Re: Emailing: wavepad
>>
>>
>> I guess what I'm thinking of is a multi track recorder and I think Cake
> Walk
>> is the only one of those; Pretty expensive though I've found out. Another
>> friend of mine suggested Sound recorder or something like that. Has 
>> anyone
>> heard of that program?
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "dennis" <dennis.cornelison@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 7:53 AM
>> Subject: Re: Emailing: wavepad
>>
>>
>> > you can't burn cd's with goldwave but you can record anything.
>> > ----- Original Message ----- 
>> > From: "Steve" <PapaSchnelle@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2004 7:15 PM
>> > Subject: Re: Emailing: wavepad
>> >
>> >
>> > > Thanks for responding. Another question though, would Goldwave record
>> > > stuff
>> > > like instruments and vocals and burn them on C D?
>> > > Steve
>> > >
>> > > ----- Original Message ----- 
>> > > From: "dennis" <dennis.cornelison@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > > Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2004 7:59 AM
>> > > Subject: Re: Emailing: wavepad
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >> i would say goldwave.
>> > >> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> > >> From: "Steve" <PapaSchnelle@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > >> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > >> Sent: Monday, December 27, 2004 5:29 PM
>> > >> Subject: Re: Emailing: wavepad
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> > Jack, can you actually transfer music and stuff from cassette to C
> D
>> > > with
>> > >> > this program? If not, which one would anyone recommend?
>> > >> >
>> > >> > Steve
>> > >> > ----- Original Message ----- 
>> > >> > From: "Jack Lowe" <akronjack1982@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > >> > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > >> > Sent: Sunday, December 26, 2004 9:06 AM
>> > >> > Subject: Emailing: wavepad
>> > >> >
>> > >> >
>> > >> >> Content-Type: text/plain;
>> > >> >> charset="iso-8859-1"
>> > >> >> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
>> > >> >> Hello Everyone,
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> If you happen to be a huge music fan as I am, and you love to do
>> your
>> > >> >> =
>> > >> >> own editing.  Then you will love this program.  It's completely
> free
>> > > for
>> > >> >> =
>> > >> >> as long as you use it.  95% of this programs features are free.
> The
>> =
>> > >> >> ones that you have to pay for, I've never needed or wanted.  And,
>> it's
>> > > =
>> > >> >> completely Jaws friendly.  Here's a little info about this 
>> > >> >> program
> =
>> > >> >> called Wave Pad.   Jack
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> WavePad is a sound editor program for Windows. This software lets
>> you
>> > >> >> =
>> > >> >> make and edit voice and other audio recordings. You can cut, copy
>> and
>> > >> >> =
>> > >> >> paste parts
>> > >> >> of recording and, if required, add effects like echo,
> amplification
>> > >> >> and
>> > > =
>> > >> >> noise reduction.
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> WavePad is designed to be very easy and intuitive to use. Within
>> > > minutes
>> > >> >> =
>> > >> >> you will be able to open or record a file and edit it. But if you
>> take
>> > > =
>> > >> >> time to
>> > >> >> explore the other features you will find many powerful tools
>> designed
>> > >> >> =
>> > >> >> with the professional sound engineer in mind.
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> A full list of WavePad's features follow but a quick way to try 
>> > >> >> it
>> out
>> > > =
>> > >> >> is to download and install now. You don't need to purchase and it
>> only
>> > > =
>> > >> >> takes a couple
>> > >> >> of minutes to complete the process (
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> WavePad is free.
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> We make WavePad free in the hope you will like it so much you 
>> > >> >> will
>> be
>> > >> >> =
>> > >> >> tempted to upgrade to WavePad Masters Edition. The Masters 
>> > >> >> Edition
>> has
>> > > =
>> > >> >> additional
>> > >> >> effects and features designed with the professional sound 
>> > >> >> engineer
>> in
>> > >> >> =
>> > >> >> mind.
>> > >> >> *Features*
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> List of 9 items
>> > >> >> . Supports a number of file formats including wav (multiple
> codecs),
>> =
>> > >> >> mp3, vox, gsm, real audio, au, aif and more.
>> > >> >> . Edit functions include Cut, Copy, Paste, Delete, Insert,
> Silence,
>> =
>> > >> >> AutoTrim and others.
>> > >> >> . Effects include, Amplify, Normalize, Equaliser, Envelope,
> Reverb,
>> =
>> > >> >> Echo, Reverse, Noise Reduction, Sample Rate Conversion and more.
>> > >> >> . Supports sample rates from 6000 to 96000Hz, stereo or mono, 8,
> 16
>> or
>> > > =
>> > >> >> 32 bits.
>> > >> >> . Ability to work with multiple files at the same time in 
>> > >> >> seperate
> =
>> > >> >> screens.
>> > >> >> . Includes a CD ripper to load audio directly and quickly from 
>> > >> >> CD.
>> > >> >> . CD Burner function allows you to burn your sound files to CD.
>> > >> >> . Player includes Scrub/Cue control for precise editing.
>> > >> >> . Recorder supports autotrim and voice activated recording.
>> > >> >> list end
>> > >> >> The message is ready to be sent with the following file or link =
>> > >> >> attachments:
>> > >> >> Shortcut to: http://www.nch.com.au/wavepad/
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> Note: To protect against computer viruses, e-mail programs may
>> prevent
>> > > =
>> > >> >> sending or receiving certain types of file attachments.  Check
> your
>> =
>> > >> >> e-mail security settings to determine how attachments are 
>> > >> >> handled.
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >>
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>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> From: "philip" <philipmaher@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Command  prompt
> Date: Wed, 29 Dec 2004 10:28:49 +0200
>
> hello
> how could I make jaws read with dos window and command ?prompt .
> also , could jaws read in ghost 7 or 8 ?
> any help would be appreciated
> philip
>
> ------------------------------
>
> From: "Chandni" <chandni1@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: Digest mode clutter
> Date: Thu, 30 Dec 2004 12:42:44 +0100
>
> I was just going to post about this. The digests have become so large it
> takes my PC over 1 minute to open them. I'm afraid it will make my 
> computer
> crash soon. I wonder if it's JAWS that slows it down or if the size is too
> large for Outlook Express. Along with eliminating the useless clutter,
> woldn't it be possible to put fewer messages in each digest issue? I think
> the number of messages included in each issue has increased enormously.
>
> I too generally use the search feature to navigate in the digest email. I
> usually read the list of subjects at the top and look for those of 
> interest.
> The problem is that because of all the clutter at the bottom of messages,
> subjects are repeated many times unnecessarily, and that makes finding the
> next post in the thread extremely timeconsuming. Are there any tricks?
>
> Thanks and happy holidays to everyone
>
> Fran - Italy
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> From: "Jose Vilmar Estacio de Souza" <vilmar@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: Command  prompt
> Date: Thu, 30 Dec 2004 09:54:11 -0200
>
> Hi,
> Which jaws version?
> Jaws 6 reads command prompt automatically.
> Using jaws 5 you can make some adjustments in the scripts so that  the =
> command prompt also can be read automatically.
> ----- Original Message -----=20
> From: "philip" <philipmaher@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 6:28 AM
> Subject: Command prompt=20
>
>
> hello=20
> how could I make jaws read with dos window and command ?prompt .
> also , could jaws read in ghost 7 or 8 ?
> any help would be appreciated=20
> philip=20
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>
> ------------------------------
>
> From: "John Miller" <n1umj@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: AVG Anti Virus
> Date: Thu, 30 Dec 2004 07:22:46 -0500
>
> you obviously weren't keeping Norton up to date then because I've never 
> had
> an infection with Norton and can honestly say, if you want to put your 
> faith
> in a product that's free where they can turn around and stop tech support
> any time they want, and in the antivirus world where you generally get 
> what
> you pay for, it's your choice but I'm staying with what I know works with
> jaws, and more importantly, what I know will keep my computer safe.
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Kerri" <ruby75@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 12:16 AM
> Subject: Re: AVG Anti Virus
>
>
>> Hello! I have also used AVG 6 andnow 7 and have never had any infection.
>> however,with norton, I had about 3 or so serious infections.
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Ray Foret Jr." <rforetjr@xxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 6:36 AM
>> Subject: Re: AVG Anti Virus
>>
>>
>> I use AVG as my anti virus.  I use the free version.  Version 7 is good
>> with
>> JAWS version 6.  Be aware that you'll have to set your JAWS up to read 
>> all
>> text rather than just highlighted text when you go in to the program's
>> control center.  If you like, you can set JAWS up so that it only reads
>> all
>> text while in the virus vault and the control center and just highlighted
>> text else where in the program.  I've had it for months and never an
>> infection once ever.
>>
>> Sincerely Yours,
>>
>> The Constantly BAREFOOTED
>> Ray
>>
>> Home Phone And Fax:  (985)853-0139
>> E-mail and Windows Messenger:
>> rforetjr@xxxxxxxxx
>>
>> God Bless President George W Bush
>> God Bless America
>> And God Bless Our Troops
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Linksma Mezgeja" <love2knit@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: "jfw" <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 7:19 AM
>> Subject: AVG Anti Virus
>>
>>
>> Hi!  Does anybody use AVG as their anti virus? If so, how accessible is 
>> it
>> for the new version of JAWS which I hope to install from disc, after it
>> arrives?
>> If you have used Norton and changed over to AVG, which do you prefer
>> strictly as an anti virus?
>> Thanks.
>>
>>
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>>
>>
>>
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>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Thu, 30 Dec 2004 07:35:09 -0500
> From: Bill <bill.cam@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: Cakewalk info
>
> first of all jfw actually had scripts for one versin of cake walk, long 
> ago.
>
> secondly cake walk is much more than an editor.
>
> its designed to let one create their own music.
>
> by the way cake walk is no longer the product of choice here, its
> replacement is sonar and the dancing dots sonar talking scripts for it.
>
>
> multi tracking yes.
>
> software music synths are supported in sonar.
>
> think their is even a acid type program included with sonar.
>
> not sure how it compares to acid.
>
> acid is designed to create loops.
>
> also sonar and cake walk correspond more with sonic foundry vegas, but 
> they
> include some thing vegas does not, midi support.
>
>
> you can use a editor program in conjunction with cake walk or sonar.
>
> like sound forge.
>
> your looking at about 600 dollars to buy sonar and the scripts.
>
> though it is possible to use sonar with out them, its more speech friendly
> than cake walk was.
>
>
>
> bill
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> From: "Joseph Machise" <josephmachise@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: AVG Anti Virus
> Date: Thu, 30 Dec 2004 07:37:37 -0500
>
> Hello joe with you.
>
> I had norton and I had a hell of a time with norton, and jaws doesn't like
> norton.
>
> The people @ freedomscientific are write. That jaws doesn't like Norton.
> Good luck from Joseph.
>
>
>
>
> "Why "do "bad "things "Happen "to "good "people!
>
>
>
> !With love always from Joseph.
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "John Miller" <n1umj@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 7:22 AM
> Subject: Re: AVG Anti Virus
>
>
>> you obviously weren't keeping Norton up to date then because I've never
> had
>> an infection with Norton and can honestly say, if you want to put your
> faith
>> in a product that's free where they can turn around and stop tech support
>> any time they want, and in the antivirus world where you generally get
> what
>> you pay for, it's your choice but I'm staying with what I know works with
>> jaws, and more importantly, what I know will keep my computer safe.
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Kerri" <ruby75@xxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 12:16 AM
>> Subject: Re: AVG Anti Virus
>>
>>
>> > Hello! I have also used AVG 6 andnow 7 and have never had any 
>> > infection.
>> > however,with norton, I had about 3 or so serious infections.
>> > ----- Original Message ----- 
>> > From: "Ray Foret Jr." <rforetjr@xxxxxxxxx>
>> > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 6:36 AM
>> > Subject: Re: AVG Anti Virus
>> >
>> >
>> > I use AVG as my anti virus.  I use the free version.  Version 7 is good
>> > with
>> > JAWS version 6.  Be aware that you'll have to set your JAWS up to read
> all
>> > text rather than just highlighted text when you go in to the program's
>> > control center.  If you like, you can set JAWS up so that it only reads
>> > all
>> > text while in the virus vault and the control center and just
> highlighted
>> > text else where in the program.  I've had it for months and never an
>> > infection once ever.
>> >
>> > Sincerely Yours,
>> >
>> > The Constantly BAREFOOTED
>> > Ray
>> >
>> > Home Phone And Fax:  (985)853-0139
>> > E-mail and Windows Messenger:
>> > rforetjr@xxxxxxxxx
>> >
>> > God Bless President George W Bush
>> > God Bless America
>> > And God Bless Our Troops
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message ----- 
>> > From: "Linksma Mezgeja" <love2knit@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > To: "jfw" <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 7:19 AM
>> > Subject: AVG Anti Virus
>> >
>> >
>> > Hi!  Does anybody use AVG as their anti virus? If so, how accessible is
> it
>> > for the new version of JAWS which I hope to install from disc, after it
>> > arrives?
>> > If you have used Norton and changed over to AVG, which do you prefer
>> > strictly as an anti virus?
>> > Thanks.
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to
>> > jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject 
>> > line.
>> > Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
>> >
>> > If you have any concerns about the list, post received from the list, 
>> > or
>> > the
>> > way the list is being run, do not post them to the list. Rather contact
>> > the
>> > list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >
>> >
>> > -- 
>> > No virus found in this incoming message.
>> > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.
>> > Version: 7.0.298 / Virus Database: 265.6.6 - Release Date: 12/28/2004
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > -- 
>> > No virus found in this outgoing message.
>> > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.
>> > Version: 7.0.298 / Virus Database: 265.6.6 - Release Date: 12/28/2004
>> >
>> > --
>> > To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to
>> > jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject 
>> > line.
>> > Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
>> >
>> > If you have any concerns about the list, post received from the list, 
>> > or
>> > the
>> > way the list is being run, do not post them to the list. Rather contact
>> > the
>> > list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >
>> >
>> > -- 
>> > No virus found in this incoming message.
>> > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.
>> > Version: 7.0.298 / Virus Database: 265.6.6 - Release Date: 12/28/2004
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > -- 
>> > No virus found in this outgoing message.
>> > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.
>> > Version: 7.0.298 / Virus Database: 265.6.6 - Release Date: 12/28/2004
>> >
>> > --
>> > To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to
>> > jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject 
>> > line.
>> > Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
>> >
>> > If you have any concerns about the list, post received from the list, 
>> > or
>> > the way the list is being run, do not post them to the list. Rather
>> > contact the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>
>>
>> --
>> To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to
> jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line.
>> Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
>>
>> If you have any concerns about the list, post received from the list, or
> the way the list is being run, do not post them to the list. Rather 
> contact
> the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> From: "John Miller" <n1umj@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: AVG Anti Virus
> Date: Thu, 30 Dec 2004 07:46:03 -0500
>
> I never had a problem with Norton and jaws in 5 years and in fact FS told 
> me
> it is very workable so I don't know who you talked to but fact is, it 
> works
> with jaws as well as anything I've ever used and as far as protection it's
> by far the best I've ever used.
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Joseph Machise" <josephmachise@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 7:37 AM
> Subject: Re: AVG Anti Virus
>
>
>> Hello joe with you.
>>
>> I had norton and I had a hell of a time with norton, and jaws doesn't 
>> like
>> norton.
>>
>> The people @ freedomscientific are write. That jaws doesn't like Norton.
>> Good luck from Joseph.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "Why "do "bad "things "Happen "to "good "people!
>>
>>
>>
>> !With love always from Joseph.
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "John Miller" <n1umj@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 7:22 AM
>> Subject: Re: AVG Anti Virus
>>
>>
>>> you obviously weren't keeping Norton up to date then because I've never
>> had
>>> an infection with Norton and can honestly say, if you want to put your
>> faith
>>> in a product that's free where they can turn around and stop tech 
>>> support
>>> any time they want, and in the antivirus world where you generally get
>> what
>>> you pay for, it's your choice but I'm staying with what I know works 
>>> with
>>> jaws, and more importantly, what I know will keep my computer safe.
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Kerri" <ruby75@xxxxxxxxx>
>>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 12:16 AM
>>> Subject: Re: AVG Anti Virus
>>>
>>>
>>> > Hello! I have also used AVG 6 andnow 7 and have never had any
>>> > infection.
>>> > however,with norton, I had about 3 or so serious infections.
>>> > ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> > From: "Ray Foret Jr." <rforetjr@xxxxxxxxx>
>>> > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> > Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 6:36 AM
>>> > Subject: Re: AVG Anti Virus
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > I use AVG as my anti virus.  I use the free version.  Version 7 is 
>>> > good
>>> > with
>>> > JAWS version 6.  Be aware that you'll have to set your JAWS up to read
>> all
>>> > text rather than just highlighted text when you go in to the program's
>>> > control center.  If you like, you can set JAWS up so that it only 
>>> > reads
>>> > all
>>> > text while in the virus vault and the control center and just
>> highlighted
>>> > text else where in the program.  I've had it for months and never an
>>> > infection once ever.
>>> >
>>> > Sincerely Yours,
>>> >
>>> > The Constantly BAREFOOTED
>>> > Ray
>>> >
>>> > Home Phone And Fax:  (985)853-0139
>>> > E-mail and Windows Messenger:
>>> > rforetjr@xxxxxxxxx
>>> >
>>> > God Bless President George W Bush
>>> > God Bless America
>>> > And God Bless Our Troops
>>> >
>>> > ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> > From: "Linksma Mezgeja" <love2knit@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> > To: "jfw" <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> > Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 7:19 AM
>>> > Subject: AVG Anti Virus
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Hi!  Does anybody use AVG as their anti virus? If so, how accessible 
>>> > is
>> it
>>> > for the new version of JAWS which I hope to install from disc, after 
>>> > it
>>> > arrives?
>>> > If you have used Norton and changed over to AVG, which do you prefer
>>> > strictly as an anti virus?
>>> > Thanks.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > --
>>> > To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> > To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to
>>> > jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject
>>> > line.
>>> > Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
>>> >
>>> > If you have any concerns about the list, post received from the list,
>>> > or
>>> > the
>>> > way the list is being run, do not post them to the list. Rather 
>>> > contact
>>> > the
>>> > list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > -- 
>>> > No virus found in this incoming message.
>>> > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.
>>> > Version: 7.0.298 / Virus Database: 265.6.6 - Release Date: 12/28/2004
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > -- 
>>> > No virus found in this outgoing message.
>>> > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.
>>> > Version: 7.0.298 / Virus Database: 265.6.6 - Release Date: 12/28/2004
>>> >
>>> > --
>>> > To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> > To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to
>>> > jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject
>>> > line.
>>> > Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
>>> >
>>> > If you have any concerns about the list, post received from the list,
>>> > or
>>> > the
>>> > way the list is being run, do not post them to the list. Rather 
>>> > contact
>>> > the
>>> > list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > -- 
>>> > No virus found in this incoming message.
>>> > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.
>>> > Version: 7.0.298 / Virus Database: 265.6.6 - Release Date: 12/28/2004
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > -- 
>>> > No virus found in this outgoing message.
>>> > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.
>>> > Version: 7.0.298 / Virus Database: 265.6.6 - Release Date: 12/28/2004
>>> >
>>> > --
>>> > To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> > To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to
>>> > jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject
>>> > line.
>>> > Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
>>> >
>>> > If you have any concerns about the list, post received from the list,
>>> > or
>>> > the way the list is being run, do not post them to the list. Rather
>>> > contact the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to
>> jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line.
>>> Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
>>>
>>> If you have any concerns about the list, post received from the list, or
>> the way the list is being run, do not post them to the list. Rather
>> contact
>> the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>
>> --
>> To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to
>> jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line.
>> Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
>>
>> If you have any concerns about the list, post received from the list, or
>> the way the list is being run, do not post them to the list. Rather
>> contact the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> From: "Mark Arnold" <marnold@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: Jaws for Iraq veterans!
> Date: Thu, 30 Dec 2004 07:47:46 -0500
>
> Hello,
>
> I would like to echo the sentiments of many of the list members.  My name 
> is
> Mark Arnold and I live outside of Akron, Ohio.  I have been using JAWS for
> almost seven years now.  I am a high school educator with teaching
> experience.  Although I am not a certified assistive technology trainer, I
> would be more than happy to mentor or tutor a veteran...  Please feel free
> to contact me off list at
> marnold@xxxxxxxxxxx
>
> Respectfully,
> Mark Arnold
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Cy" <cselfridge@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 1:01 AM
> Subject: RE: Jaws for Iraq veterans!
>
>
>> Hi, I live in Tulsa Oklahoma and have used JAWS for about ten years.
>> I would be happy to lend a hand.
>> My email is:
>> cselfridge@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Cy Selfridge...
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
>> Behalf Of David Grossoehme
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 8:01 PM
>> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: Re: Jaws for Iraq veterans!
>>
>>
>> Jackm, you not alone.  This is Dave Grossoehme and I live in Omaha, ne.
>> I
>> would be glad to help teach anyone to use Jaws here in Omaha.  I'be a
>> Jaws
>> user for approximately 9 years.  You can email me at anytime and I've
>> glad
>> to help out.
>> Your Friend
>> Dave
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Jack Lowe" <akronjack1982@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 12:34 PM
>> Subject: Re: Jaws for Iraq veterans!
>>
>>
>>> Well, I don't have any legal certification.  But I have been a Jaws
>>> user
>>> for
>>> 5 and a half years.  And, I've independently taught a few people the
>> Jaws
>>> program.
>>> I live in Akron Ohio.  If I can be of any help, please feel free to
>>> contact
>>> me off list at:
>>> akronjack1982@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> It would be an honor to help out those who are fighting to keep our
>> nation
>>> safe.   Jack
>>>
>>> --
>>> To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To
>>> unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to
>>> jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject
>>> line. Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
>>>
>>> If you have any concerns about the list, post received from the list,
>>> or
>>> the way the list is being run, do not post them to the list. Rather
>>> contact the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> No virus found in this incoming message.
>>> Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.
>>> Version: 7.0.298 / Virus Database: 265.6.6 - Release Date: 12/28/2004
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -- 
>> No virus found in this outgoing message.
>> Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.
>> Version: 7.0.298 / Virus Database: 265.6.6 - Release Date: 12/28/2004
>>
>> --
>> To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to
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>> Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
>>
>> If you have any concerns about the list, post received from the list, or
>> the way the list is being run, do not post them to the list. Rather
>> contact the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>
>> ---
>> Incoming mail is certified Virus Free.
>> Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).
>> Version: 6.0.823 / Virus Database: 561 - Release Date: 12/26/2004
>>
>>
>>
>> --
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>> contact the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Thu, 30 Dec 2004 19:02:32 +0530
> From: Pranav Lal <nomad42@xxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: JFW and the security testing products from grc.com
>
>
> Steve,
> <snip As far as the ShieldsUp button, double-click it rapidly with the
> left-mouse
> key.
> PL] I cannot find the button on the page.
>
> Pranav
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Pranav
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Thu, 30 Dec 2004 07:56:54 -0600
> From: Patrick Byrne <k9jau@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: AVG Anti Virus
>
> I have used various Norton products with various versions of JFW; all
> successfully.
> Good luck.
> Pat ByrneAt 07:37 AM 12/30/2004 -0500, you wrote:
>>Hello joe with you.
>>
>>I had norton and I had a hell of a time with norton, and jaws doesn't like
>>norton.
>>
>>The people @ freedomscientific are write. That jaws doesn't like Norton.
>>Good luck from Joseph.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>"Why "do "bad "things "Happen "to "good "people!
>>
>>
>>
>>!With love always from Joseph.
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "John Miller" <n1umj@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 7:22 AM
>>Subject: Re: AVG Anti Virus
>>
>>
>> > you obviously weren't keeping Norton up to date then because I've never
>>had
>> > an infection with Norton and can honestly say, if you want to put your
>>faith
>> > in a product that's free where they can turn around and stop tech 
>> > support
>> > any time they want, and in the antivirus world where you generally get
>>what
>> > you pay for, it's your choice but I'm staying with what I know works 
>> > with
>> > jaws, and more importantly, what I know will keep my computer safe.
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: "Kerri" <ruby75@xxxxxxxxx>
>> > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 12:16 AM
>> > Subject: Re: AVG Anti Virus
>> >
>> >
>> > > Hello! I have also used AVG 6 andnow 7 and have never had any 
>> > > infection.
>> > > however,with norton, I had about 3 or so serious infections.
>> > > ----- Original Message -----
>> > > From: "Ray Foret Jr." <rforetjr@xxxxxxxxx>
>> > > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > > Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 6:36 AM
>> > > Subject: Re: AVG Anti Virus
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > I use AVG as my anti virus.  I use the free version.  Version 7 is 
>> > > good
>> > > with
>> > > JAWS version 6.  Be aware that you'll have to set your JAWS up to 
>> > > read
>>all
>> > > text rather than just highlighted text when you go in to the 
>> > > program's
>> > > control center.  If you like, you can set JAWS up so that it only 
>> > > reads
>> > > all
>> > > text while in the virus vault and the control center and just
>>highlighted
>> > > text else where in the program.  I've had it for months and never an
>> > > infection once ever.
>> > >
>> > > Sincerely Yours,
>> > >
>> > > The Constantly BAREFOOTED
>> > > Ray
>> > >
>> > > Home Phone And Fax:  (985)853-0139
>> > > E-mail and Windows Messenger:
>> > > rforetjr@xxxxxxxxx
>> > >
>> > > God Bless President George W Bush
>> > > God Bless America
>> > > And God Bless Our Troops
>> > >
>> > > ----- Original Message -----
>> > > From: "Linksma Mezgeja" <love2knit@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > > To: "jfw" <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > > Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 7:19 AM
>> > > Subject: AVG Anti Virus
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Hi!  Does anybody use AVG as their anti virus? If so, how accessible 
>> > > is
>>it
>> > > for the new version of JAWS which I hope to install from disc, after 
>> > > it
>> > > arrives?
>> > > If you have used Norton and changed over to AVG, which do you prefer
>> > > strictly as an anti virus?
>> > > Thanks.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > --
>> > > To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > > To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to
>> > > jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject 
>> > > line.
>> > > Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
>> > >
>> > > If you have any concerns about the list, post received from the list, 
>> > > or
>> > > the
>> > > way the list is being run, do not post them to the list. Rather 
>> > > contact
>> > > the
>> > > list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > --
>> > > No virus found in this incoming message.
>> > > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.
>> > > Version: 7.0.298 / Virus Database: 265.6.6 - Release Date: 12/28/2004
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > --
>> > > No virus found in this outgoing message.
>> > > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.
>> > > Version: 7.0.298 / Virus Database: 265.6.6 - Release Date: 12/28/2004
>> > >
>> > > --
>> > > To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > > To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to
>> > > jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject 
>> > > line.
>> > > Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
>> > >
>> > > If you have any concerns about the list, post received from the list, 
>> > > or
>> > > the
>> > > way the list is being run, do not post them to the list. Rather 
>> > > contact
>> > > the
>> > > list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > --
>> > > No virus found in this incoming message.
>> > > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.
>> > > Version: 7.0.298 / Virus Database: 265.6.6 - Release Date: 12/28/2004
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > --
>> > > No virus found in this outgoing message.
>> > > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.
>> > > Version: 7.0.298 / Virus Database: 265.6.6 - Release Date: 12/28/2004
>> > >
>> > > --
>> > > To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > > To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to
>> > > jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject 
>> > > line.
>> > > Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
>> > >
>> > > If you have any concerns about the list, post received from the list, 
>> > > or
>> > > the way the list is being run, do not post them to the list. Rather
>> > > contact the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to
>>jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line.
>> > Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
>> >
>> > If you have any concerns about the list, post received from the list, 
>> > or
>>the way the list is being run, do not post them to the list. Rather 
>>contact
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> ------------------------------
>
> From: "chevelle" <chevelle33@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: sounds manager
> Date: Thu, 30 Dec 2004 09:02:00 -0500
>
> YOu didn't tell them how to open the default manager. Maybe they dont know
> how to do that.
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "david poehlman" <david.poehlman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 8:44 PM
> Subject: Re: sounds manager
>
>
>>I told someone to open default configuration manager.
>>
>> Johnnie Apple Seed
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "chevelle" <chevelle33@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 8:33 PM
>> Subject: Re: sounds manager
>>
>>
>> Look at your won post. You told someone to choose default. How! do! you!
>> choose! the default!
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "david poehlman" <david.poehlman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 8:22 PM
>> Subject: Re: sounds manager
>>
>>
>>> what default?
>>>
>>> Johnnie Apple Seed
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "chevelle" <chevelle33@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 8:19 PM
>>> Subject: Re: sounds manager
>>>
>>>
>>> That doesn't explain how you choose the default.
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "david poehlman" <david.poehlman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 7:50 PM
>>> Subject: Re: sounds manager
>>>
>>>
>>>> default is classic.
>>>>
>>>> Johnnie Apple Seed
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>> From: "chevelle" <chevelle33@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 7:36 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: sounds manager
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> How do you choose the default, and how do you get to the speech and
>>>> sounds
>>>> manager?
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>> From: "david poehlman" <david.poehlman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 6:26 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: sounds manager
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> speech and sounds manager is simple but there are a lot of choices to
>>>>> make
>>>>> or to choose from among.  You must look through it and figure out what
>>>>> yu
>>>>> want to do.  It is not hard to do any of it and you must also choose
>>>>> the
>>>>> app
>>>>> you intend to work with.  Choose default if you wish by opening the
>>>>> default
>>>>> configuration manager and choosing speech and sounds manager and
>>>>> opening
>>>>> it
>>>>> up, click edit scheme button and press space, the first tab is the
>>>>> general
>>>>> tab and you can leave the description the way it is, ctrl+tab to the
>>>>> other
>>>>> pages and look through the options and things you can ghance and 
>>>>> decide
>>>>> what
>>>>> to change.  If you want to change the way a slider sounds for 
>>>>> instance,
>>>>> go
>>>>> to the bottom of the list on the first page and then tab to the group
>>>>> of
>>>>> four radio buttons and select the one you want the bahavior for.  Play
>>>>> sound
>>>>> is at the bottom, and for that, you must choose a wav file with the
>>>>> next
>>>>> button in tab order.  Once yu are done with the settings, click ok and
>>>>> ok
>>>>> again if need be, close and save.
>>>>>
>>>>> Johnnie Apple Seed
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>> From: <ptusing@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 5:40 PM
>>>>> Subject: sounds manager
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>> Could some one for the sake of argument go through like  the  steps in
>>>>> order
>>>>> for setting the sounds  manager to put a sound on to let's say
>>>>> something useful.
>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>> I was looking for this info as in sounds manager  in the JAWS  6 help
>>>>> topics.
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>
> ------------------------------
>
> From: "chevelle" <chevelle33@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: sounds manager
> Date: Thu, 30 Dec 2004 09:31:13 -0500
>
> Thanks for that, but actually I was trying to make a point to a certain
> person because he did the same thing to me.
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Horspool, Matthew F." <drjaws@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 4:01 AM
> Subject: RE: sounds manager
>
>
>> From config manager, press CTRL+SHFT+D.  Now press ALT+S and DownArrow
>> to "Speech and Sounds Manager" and press ENTER.  Now you're there.
>> Select "classic" from the list of schemes that should have focus.  Now
>> press Tab, then ENTER.  Press CTRL+TAB and select your control type
>> (slider, button).  Press tab and select an action (Ignore, play a sound,
>> change the voice...).  If you've selected "voice" or "sound", press tab,
>> then enter.  There should be a list, select what you want.  If you are
>> choosing a sound, press the SPACEBAR over the sound to play it.  When
>> you're done, press ENTER.  TAB to "OK" and press it.  TAB to "SAVE" and
>> press it.  You're done!
>>
>> -------------------------
>> Mr. Matthew F. Horspool
>>
>> Send me an Electronic Mail to
>> drjaws@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>
>> Add
>> horspool@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> to your MSN contact list
>>
>> Or Visit my web site at
>> http://www.horspool.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk
>> -------------------------
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
>> Behalf Of chevelle
>> Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 1:19 AM
>> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: Re: sounds manager
>>
>>
>> That doesn't explain how you choose the default.
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "david poehlman" <david.poehlman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 7:50 PM
>> Subject: Re: sounds manager
>>
>>
>>> default is classic.
>>>
>>> Johnnie Apple Seed
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "chevelle" <chevelle33@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 7:36 PM
>>> Subject: Re: sounds manager
>>>
>>>
>>> How do you choose the default, and how do you get to the speech and
>>> sounds manager?
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "david poehlman" <david.poehlman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 6:26 PM
>>> Subject: Re: sounds manager
>>>
>>>
>>>> speech and sounds manager is simple but there are a lot of choices to
>>>> make
>>>> or to choose from among.  You must look through it and figure out
>> what yu
>>>> want to do.  It is not hard to do any of it and you must also choose
>> the
>>>> app
>>>> you intend to work with.  Choose default if you wish by opening the
>>>> default
>>>> configuration manager and choosing speech and sounds manager and
>> opening
>>>> it
>>>> up, click edit scheme button and press space, the first tab is the
>>>> general
>>>> tab and you can leave the description the way it is, ctrl+tab to the
>>>> other
>>>> pages and look through the options and things you can ghance and
>> decide
>>>> what
>>>> to change.  If you want to change the way a slider sounds for
>> instance,
>>>> go
>>>> to the bottom of the list on the first page and then tab to the group
>> of
>>>> four radio buttons and select the one you want the bahavior for.
>> Play
>>>> sound
>>>> is at the bottom, and for that, you must choose a wav file with the
>> next
>>>> button in tab order.  Once yu are done with the settings, click ok
>> and ok
>>>> again if need be, close and save.
>>>>
>>>> Johnnie Apple Seed
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: <ptusing@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 5:40 PM
>>>> Subject: sounds manager
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>> Could some one for the sake of argument go through like  the  steps
>>>> in order for setting the sounds  manager to put a sound on to let's
>>>> say something useful.
>>>> Thanks.
>>>> I was looking for this info as in sounds manager  in the JAWS  6 help
>>>> topics.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
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>>>> unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to
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>>
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>>>
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>
> ------------------------------
>
> From: "chevelle" <chevelle33@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: AVG Anti Virus
> Date: Thu, 30 Dec 2004 09:35:56 -0500
>
> Hey John, agree with you totally. I used the live update, and the 
> automatic
> update, and never a virus.
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "John Miller" <n1umj@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 7:22 AM
> Subject: Re: AVG Anti Virus
>
>
>> you obviously weren't keeping Norton up to date then because I've never
>> had
>> an infection with Norton and can honestly say, if you want to put your
>> faith
>> in a product that's free where they can turn around and stop tech support
>> any time they want, and in the antivirus world where you generally get
>> what
>> you pay for, it's your choice but I'm staying with what I know works with
>> jaws, and more importantly, what I know will keep my computer safe.
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Kerri" <ruby75@xxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 12:16 AM
>> Subject: Re: AVG Anti Virus
>>
>>
>>> Hello! I have also used AVG 6 andnow 7 and have never had any infection.
>>> however,with norton, I had about 3 or so serious infections.
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Ray Foret Jr." <rforetjr@xxxxxxxxx>
>>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 6:36 AM
>>> Subject: Re: AVG Anti Virus
>>>
>>>
>>> I use AVG as my anti virus.  I use the free version.  Version 7 is good
>>> with
>>> JAWS version 6.  Be aware that you'll have to set your JAWS up to read
>>> all
>>> text rather than just highlighted text when you go in to the program's
>>> control center.  If you like, you can set JAWS up so that it only reads
>>> all
>>> text while in the virus vault and the control center and just 
>>> highlighted
>>> text else where in the program.  I've had it for months and never an
>>> infection once ever.
>>>
>>> Sincerely Yours,
>>>
>>> The Constantly BAREFOOTED
>>> Ray
>>>
>>> Home Phone And Fax:  (985)853-0139
>>> E-mail and Windows Messenger:
>>> rforetjr@xxxxxxxxx
>>>
>>> God Bless President George W Bush
>>> God Bless America
>>> And God Bless Our Troops
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Linksma Mezgeja" <love2knit@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> To: "jfw" <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 7:19 AM
>>> Subject: AVG Anti Virus
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi!  Does anybody use AVG as their anti virus? If so, how accessible is
>>> it
>>> for the new version of JAWS which I hope to install from disc, after it
>>> arrives?
>>> If you have used Norton and changed over to AVG, which do you prefer
>>> strictly as an anti virus?
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>>
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>>> Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.
>>> Version: 7.0.298 / Virus Database: 265.6.6 - Release Date: 12/28/2004
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>
> ------------------------------
>
> From: "chevelle" <chevelle33@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: AVG Anti Virus
> Date: Thu, 30 Dec 2004 09:37:22 -0500
>
> What do you mean Jaws doesn't like Norton. I used the Norton Internet
> Security 2004, and I could access everything. I did have to use the jaws
> cursor, but I could still access everything.
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Joseph Machise" <josephmachise@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 7:37 AM
> Subject: Re: AVG Anti Virus
>
>
>> Hello joe with you.
>>
>> I had norton and I had a hell of a time with norton, and jaws doesn't 
>> like
>> norton.
>>
>> The people @ freedomscientific are write. That jaws doesn't like Norton.
>> Good luck from Joseph.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "Why "do "bad "things "Happen "to "good "people!
>>
>>
>>
>> !With love always from Joseph.
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "John Miller" <n1umj@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 7:22 AM
>> Subject: Re: AVG Anti Virus
>>
>>
>>> you obviously weren't keeping Norton up to date then because I've never
>> had
>>> an infection with Norton and can honestly say, if you want to put your
>> faith
>>> in a product that's free where they can turn around and stop tech 
>>> support
>>> any time they want, and in the antivirus world where you generally get
>> what
>>> you pay for, it's your choice but I'm staying with what I know works 
>>> with
>>> jaws, and more importantly, what I know will keep my computer safe.
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Kerri" <ruby75@xxxxxxxxx>
>>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 12:16 AM
>>> Subject: Re: AVG Anti Virus
>>>
>>>
>>> > Hello! I have also used AVG 6 andnow 7 and have never had any
>>> > infection.
>>> > however,with norton, I had about 3 or so serious infections.
>>> > ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> > From: "Ray Foret Jr." <rforetjr@xxxxxxxxx>
>>> > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> > Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 6:36 AM
>>> > Subject: Re: AVG Anti Virus
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > I use AVG as my anti virus.  I use the free version.  Version 7 is 
>>> > good
>>> > with
>>> > JAWS version 6.  Be aware that you'll have to set your JAWS up to read
>> all
>>> > text rather than just highlighted text when you go in to the program's
>>> > control center.  If you like, you can set JAWS up so that it only 
>>> > reads
>>> > all
>>> > text while in the virus vault and the control center and just
>> highlighted
>>> > text else where in the program.  I've had it for months and never an
>>> > infection once ever.
>>> >
>>> > Sincerely Yours,
>>> >
>>> > The Constantly BAREFOOTED
>>> > Ray
>>> >
>>> > Home Phone And Fax:  (985)853-0139
>>> > E-mail and Windows Messenger:
>>> > rforetjr@xxxxxxxxx
>>> >
>>> > God Bless President George W Bush
>>> > God Bless America
>>> > And God Bless Our Troops
>>> >
>>> > ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> > From: "Linksma Mezgeja" <love2knit@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> > To: "jfw" <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> > Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 7:19 AM
>>> > Subject: AVG Anti Virus
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Hi!  Does anybody use AVG as their anti virus? If so, how accessible 
>>> > is
>> it
>>> > for the new version of JAWS which I hope to install from disc, after 
>>> > it
>>> > arrives?
>>> > If you have used Norton and changed over to AVG, which do you prefer
>>> > strictly as an anti virus?
>>> > Thanks.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > --
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>>> > To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to
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>>> > the
>>> > way the list is being run, do not post them to the list. Rather 
>>> > contact
>>> > the
>>> > list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > -- 
>>> > No virus found in this incoming message.
>>> > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.
>>> > Version: 7.0.298 / Virus Database: 265.6.6 - Release Date: 12/28/2004
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > -- 
>>> > No virus found in this outgoing message.
>>> > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.
>>> > Version: 7.0.298 / Virus Database: 265.6.6 - Release Date: 12/28/2004
>>> >
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> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Thu, 30 Dec 2004 08:44:04 -0600 (CST)
> From: Bruce Toews <water_drinker@xxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: AVG Anti Virus
>
> I can't comment on any of the anti-virus programs, because I've never in
> my life been infected by one or been in danger of being infected by one,
> including not having used any virus program at all until late 2002. I use
> a Unix shell for my e-mail on top of which my ISP's e-mail service, when I
> need it, includes anti-virus protection at no additional charge. And I
> guess they block whatever ports other viruses generally float in on. So no
> virus checker I've ever used has really been put to the test.
>
> Bruce
>
> -- 
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>
> On Thu, 30 Dec 2004, chevelle wrote:
>
>> Hey John, agree with you totally. I used the live update, and the 
>> automatic
>> update, and never a virus.
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "John Miller" <n1umj@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 7:22 AM
>> Subject: Re: AVG Anti Virus
>>
>>
>>> you obviously weren't keeping Norton up to date then because I've never
>>> had
>>> an infection with Norton and can honestly say, if you want to put your
>>> faith
>>> in a product that's free where they can turn around and stop tech 
>>> support
>>> any time they want, and in the antivirus world where you generally get
>>> what
>>> you pay for, it's your choice but I'm staying with what I know works 
>>> with
>>> jaws, and more importantly, what I know will keep my computer safe.
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Kerri" <ruby75@xxxxxxxxx>
>>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 12:16 AM
>>> Subject: Re: AVG Anti Virus
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hello! I have also used AVG 6 andnow 7 and have never had any 
>>>> infection.
>>>> however,with norton, I had about 3 or so serious infections.
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Ray Foret Jr." <rforetjr@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 6:36 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: AVG Anti Virus
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I use AVG as my anti virus.  I use the free version.  Version 7 is good
>>>> with
>>>> JAWS version 6.  Be aware that you'll have to set your JAWS up to read
>>>> all
>>>> text rather than just highlighted text when you go in to the program's
>>>> control center.  If you like, you can set JAWS up so that it only reads
>>>> all
>>>> text while in the virus vault and the control center and just 
>>>> highlighted
>>>> text else where in the program.  I've had it for months and never an
>>>> infection once ever.
>>>>
>>>> Sincerely Yours,
>>>>
>>>> The Constantly BAREFOOTED
>>>> Ray
>>>>
>>>> Home Phone And Fax:  (985)853-0139
>>>> E-mail and Windows Messenger:
>>>> rforetjr@xxxxxxxxx
>>>>
>>>> God Bless President George W Bush
>>>> God Bless America
>>>> And God Bless Our Troops
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Linksma Mezgeja" <love2knit@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> To: "jfw" <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 7:19 AM
>>>> Subject: AVG Anti Virus
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hi!  Does anybody use AVG as their anti virus? If so, how accessible is
>>>> it
>>>> for the new version of JAWS which I hope to install from disc, after it
>>>> arrives?
>>>> If you have used Norton and changed over to AVG, which do you prefer
>>>> strictly as an anti virus?
>>>> Thanks.
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>>
>>>>
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> ------------------------------
>
> From: "david poehlman" <david.poehlman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: sounds manager
> Date: Thu, 30 Dec 2004 09:59:13 -0500
>
> then they should ask. this is getting off topic.  If you have a problem 
> with
> something I post, I suggest you write me privately and perhaps we can
> streighten it out.  I use correct terminology in my posts.  If people need
> more specificis, I am happy to furnish them but if people just want to 
> waste
> time, I can do that too.
>
> Johnnie Apple Seed
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "chevelle" <chevelle33@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 9:02 AM
> Subject: Re: sounds manager
>
>
> YOu didn't tell them how to open the default manager. Maybe they dont know
> how to do that.
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "david poehlman" <david.poehlman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 8:44 PM
> Subject: Re: sounds manager
>
>
>>I told someone to open default configuration manager.
>>
>> Johnnie Apple Seed
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "chevelle" <chevelle33@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 8:33 PM
>> Subject: Re: sounds manager
>>
>>
>> Look at your won post. You told someone to choose default. How! do! you!
>> choose! the default!
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "david poehlman" <david.poehlman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 8:22 PM
>> Subject: Re: sounds manager
>>
>>
>>> what default?
>>>
>>> Johnnie Apple Seed
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "chevelle" <chevelle33@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 8:19 PM
>>> Subject: Re: sounds manager
>>>
>>>
>>> That doesn't explain how you choose the default.
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "david poehlman" <david.poehlman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 7:50 PM
>>> Subject: Re: sounds manager
>>>
>>>
>>>> default is classic.
>>>>
>>>> Johnnie Apple Seed
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>> From: "chevelle" <chevelle33@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 7:36 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: sounds manager
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> How do you choose the default, and how do you get to the speech and
>>>> sounds
>>>> manager?
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>> From: "david poehlman" <david.poehlman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 6:26 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: sounds manager
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> speech and sounds manager is simple but there are a lot of choices to
>>>>> make
>>>>> or to choose from among.  You must look through it and figure out what
>>>>> yu
>>>>> want to do.  It is not hard to do any of it and you must also choose
>>>>> the
>>>>> app
>>>>> you intend to work with.  Choose default if you wish by opening the
>>>>> default
>>>>> configuration manager and choosing speech and sounds manager and
>>>>> opening
>>>>> it
>>>>> up, click edit scheme button and press space, the first tab is the
>>>>> general
>>>>> tab and you can leave the description the way it is, ctrl+tab to the
>>>>> other
>>>>> pages and look through the options and things you can ghance and 
>>>>> decide
>>>>> what
>>>>> to change.  If you want to change the way a slider sounds for 
>>>>> instance,
>>>>> go
>>>>> to the bottom of the list on the first page and then tab to the group
>>>>> of
>>>>> four radio buttons and select the one you want the bahavior for.  Play
>>>>> sound
>>>>> is at the bottom, and for that, you must choose a wav file with the
>>>>> next
>>>>> button in tab order.  Once yu are done with the settings, click ok and
>>>>> ok
>>>>> again if need be, close and save.
>>>>>
>>>>> Johnnie Apple Seed
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>> From: <ptusing@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 5:40 PM
>>>>> Subject: sounds manager
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>> Could some one for the sake of argument go through like  the  steps in
>>>>> order
>>>>> for setting the sounds  manager to put a sound on to let's say
>>>>> something useful.
>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>> I was looking for this info as in sounds manager  in the JAWS  6 help
>>>>> topics.
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>
> From: "david poehlman" <david.poehlman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re: Bug Fixes in 
> JAWS 6
> Date: Thu, 30 Dec 2004 10:11:16 -0500
>
> matt,
>
> If you go to control panel, open system and read with the jaws cursor or
> ins+b, you are told in plain english what system you have.  I'm not sure
> what you are running to get the result you have below, but thought this
> might help.
>
> Johnnie Apple Seed
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Horspool, Matthew F." <drjaws@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 3:26 AM
> Subject: RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re: Bug Fixes in
> JAWS 6.0
>
>
> OK, I thought I got it right, but when I interrogated the system this
> line came up:
> Processor: x86 Family 15 Model 2 Stepping 7 GenuineIntel ~2532 MhZ
>
> If I interpreted this line correctly I have a 2532MhZ processor!
>
> -------------------------
> Mr. Matthew F. Horspool
>
> Send me an Electronic Mail to
> drjaws@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
> Add
> horspool@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> to your MSN contact list
>
> Or Visit my web site at
> http://www.horspool.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk
> -------------------------
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> Behalf Of Chip Orange
> Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 5:13 PM
> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re: Bug Fixes in
> JAWS 6.0
>
>
> If you got that right (and it's not a typo) and your processor speed was
> only 256 mhz, then I could see why switching to a hardware synthesizer
> had such an improvement for you.  That was quite a load for your system.
>
> Chip
>
> =20
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=20  [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>>On Behalf Of Horspool, Matthew F.
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 12:05 PM
>> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re:=20  Bug
>>Fixes in JAWS 6.0 =20
>> Well I had 512MB RAM and about 256MHZ Processors.  Running at=20
>> once I had a copy of WinAmp with the Audio stocker and=20
>> SHOUTcast plugin, Microsoft Outlook, SHOUTcast DNAS (GUI),=20
>> BVentrilo and the Ventrilo Server, and a copy of JFW.  This=20
>> slowed down the system quite a bit.
>>=20
>> -------------------------
>> Mr. Matthew F. Horspool
>> =20
>> Send me an Electronic Mail to
>> drjaws@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> =20
>> Add
>> horspool@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> to your MSN contact list
>> =20
>> Or Visit my web site at
>> http://www.horspool.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk
>> -------------------------
>>=20
>>=20
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=20
>> [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Chip Orange
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 4:38 PM
>> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re:=20
>> Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0
>>=20
>>=20
>> Ok,  this is the first opinion which strongly prefers one to=20
>> another for other than subjective reasons, and I appreciate it.
>>=20
>> Would you say the system you were using when you made the=20
>> switch was unusually slow, short of ram, or overloaded with=20
>> processing tasks?
>>=20
>> Thanks.
>>=20
>> Chip
>>=20
>> =3D20
>>=20
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D20 =20
>> [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]=20
>> >On Behalf Of Horspool, Matthew F.
>> > Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 11:30 AM
>> > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > Subject: RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re:=3D20  =
> Bug=20
>> >Fixes in JAWS 6.0 =3D20  Used DECtalk ACCESS32 for about a=20
>> year and then=20
>> >switched to a=3D20  DECtalk USB for to get better broadcast=20
>> clarity.  I=20
>> >certainly=3D20  have noticed a huge difference in responsiveness:  =
> The=20
>> >DEC=3D20  USB is faster - a lot faster!
>> >=3D20
>> > -------------------------
>> > Mr. Matthew F. Horspool
>> > =3D20
>> > Send me an Electronic Mail to
>> > drjaws@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > =3D20
>> > Add
>> > horspool@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > to your MSN contact list
>> > =3D20
>> > Or Visit my web site at  http://www.horspool.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk
>> > -------------------------
>> >=3D20
>> >=3D20
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D20
>> > [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of John Miller
>> > Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 4:20 PM
>> > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > Subject: Re: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re:=3D20  =
> Bug=20
>> >Fixes in JAWS 6.0 =3D20 =3D20  I don't notice it if so.
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: "Chip Orange" <Corange@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 10:47 AM
>> > Subject: RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re:=3D20  =
> Bug=20
>> >Fixes in =3D20  JAWS 6.0 =3D20 =3D20
>> > > Yes; and they do use some processor time.  The question is that=20
>
>> > > on=3D20 todays systems, which usually have plenty of =
> processor=3D20
>> > speed and RAM,=3D20
>> > > does that really make any difference?
>> > >
>> > > Now, I know that it does from reports on AT&T Natural
>> > > Voices=3D20=20 specifically, but I was wondering about Eloquence.
>> > >
>> > > Thanks.
>> > >
>> > > Chip
>> > >
>> > > =3D3D20
>> > >
>> > >> -----Original Message-----
>> > >> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D3D20 =3D20
>> > [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]=3D20
>> > >>On Behalf Of Flor Lynch
>> > >> Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2004 9:00 PM
>> > >> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > >> Subject: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re:=3D20
>> > Bug=3D3D20  Fixes
>> >=3D20
>> > >>in JAWS 6.0 =3D3D20
>> > >> Software synths take up more RAM than hardware ones do.
>> > >> ----- Original Message -----
>> > >> From: "Chip Orange" <Corange@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > >> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > >> Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2004 2:22 PM
>> > >> Subject: RE: Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0
>> > >>=3D3D20
>> > >>=3D3D20
>> > >> Well, no argument with your first point, it is more=3D20
>> > difficult to have =3D20
>> > >>all of the sound coming out of one source; but, when you=3D20
>> > need to use =3D20
>> > >>headphones so as not to disturb someone else, it's also =
> more=3D3D20=20
>> > >>=3D20 convenient. =3D3D20  As for your second, that just=20
>> seems to come=20
>> > >>down to personal=3D3D20
>> =3D20
>> > >>preference  as it doesn't bother me a bit.
>> > >>=3D3D20
>> > >> There is one which you didn't mention, but which I've=3D20
>> > always wondered =3D20
>> > >>about, and that's how much of a load does Eloquence place=3D20
>> > on=3D3D20  your=3D20
>> > >>system  by having the software synth as compared to sending=3D20
>> > the text=3D20
>> > >>to be  spoken out of the serial port?  Anyone have any facts=20
>> > >>along=3D20 this
>> > line?
>> > >>=3D3D20
>> > >> Thanks.
>> > >>=3D3D20
>> > >> Chip
>> > >>=3D3D20
>> > >> =3D3D3D20
>> > >>=3D3D20
>> > >> > -----Original Message-----
>> > >> > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D3D3D20=3D20
>> > >> >[mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Kerri
>> > >> > Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2004 2:04 AM
>> > >> > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > >> > Subject: Re: Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0 =3D3D3D20  Hello  Chip. I=20
>
>> > >> >despise software synthesizers mainly=3D20
>> > because=3D3D3D20 if=3D20
>> > >> >you are required to listen to other media, I find it=20
>> to=3D3D3D20=3D20=20
>> > >> >difficult to with a software synthesizer coming through=20
>> the=3D3D3D20
>>=20
>> > >> >=3D
>>=20
>> > >> >same speakers. I also dislike elloquence's voice, *all of them*
>> > >> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > >> > From: "Chip Orange" <Corange@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > >> > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > >> > Sent: Monday, December 27, 2004 12:02 PM
>> > >> > Subject: RE: Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0 =3D3D3D20 =3D3D3D20  I'm=20
>> > >> >interested in hearing why, as I use a DT express at=3D20
>> > work,=3D3D3D20
>> >=3D20
>> > >> >and eloquence at home, and really haven't felt there's=20
>> much=3D3D3D20
>>=20
>> > >> >=3D
>>=20
>> > >> >difference.  Perhaps there's just something I'm=20
>> missing? =3D3D3D20 =20
>> > >> >Thanks.
>> > >> >=3D3D3D20
>> > >> > Chip
>> > >> >=3D3D3D20
>> > >> > =3D3D3D3D20
>> > >> >=3D3D3D20
>> > >> > > -----Original Message-----
>> > >> > > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D3D3D3D20=3D20
>> > >> > >[mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Kerri
>> > >> > > Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2004 12:17 AM
>> > >> > > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > >> > > Subject: Re: Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0 =3D3D3D3D20  Chris, I=3D20
>> > vehemently=3D20
>> > >> > >despise software synthesizers hence=3D3D3D20
>> > >> > my=3D3D3D3D20  dectalk=3D3D3D20
>> > >> > >use and this is the only version that has been =3D
>> rather=3D3D3D3D20=3D3D20
>> > >>  sluggish.
>> > >> > > ----- Original Message -----
>> > >> > > From: "Chris Skarstad" <toonhead5@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > >> > > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > >> > > Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2004 4:15 PM
>> > >> > > Subject: Re: Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0 =3D3D3D3D20 =3D3D3D3D20 =
> =3D20
>> > man I guess=3D20
>> > >> > >I'm very lucky then. This version actually runs =3D3D
>> > > a=3D3D3D3D20
>> > >> =3D3D3D20
>> > >> > >little faster on my system than 5.10 did. Then again=3D3D20
>> > >> I'm=3D3D3D3D20  using
>> > >> =3D3D3D
>> > >> a=3D3D3D20
>> > >> > >hardware synthesizer which is probably the=20
>> reason.=3D3D3D3D20  =3D3D
>> > > Never=3D3D3D20
>> > >> > did like=3D3D3D20
>> > >> > >software speech and never will based on what=3D3D3D3D20=20
>>  I've=3D3D20
>> > >> seen.  By the
>> > >> =3D3D3D
>> > >>=3D3D20
>> > >> > >way, the murge feature is there. go to=3D3D3D3D20  your=20
>> jaws=3D3D20
>> > >> window with =3D3D3D
>> > >> alt=3D3D3D20
>> > >> > >plus j, press alt u for utilities,=3D3D3D3D20  and it's =
> in=3D3D20
>> > >> there. or simply
>> > >> =3D3D3D
>> > >>=3D3D20
>> > >> > >bring up the context menu if=3D3D3D3D20  you're running=20
>> jaws in =3D
>> =3D3D
>> > > the=3D3D3D20
>> > >> > system tray=3D3D3D20
>> > >> > >and go to utilities=3D3D3D3D20  and the murge utility=20
>> is there.=3D20
>>=20
>> > >> > >=3D3D3D3D20  At 04:29 PM 12/21/2004, you wrote:
>> > >> > > >Hay, you mean, they haven't fixed any right? I'm=3D20
>> > sorry, I=3D3D3D3D20
>> > >> > > just couldn't=3D3D3D3D20
>> > >> > > >resist. In truth, this has been the worst version =
> I've=3D3D20
>> > >> had the=3D3D3D3D20
>> > >> =3D3D3D
>> > >>=3D3D20
>> > >> > > >misfortune to deal with in a long while. It runs=3D3D20
>> > >> terribley slow,=3D3D3D20
>> > >> > > >I'm=3D3D3D3D20 getting false attachments, no merge=20
>> feature=3D3D20
>> > >> anywhere. I=3D3D3D20
>> > >> > > >love=3D3D3D3D20
>> > >> > > spending=3D3D3D3D20
>> > >> > > >money on this "improved" product. Sorry, I'm being a grinch.
>> > >> > > >----- Original Message -----
>> > >> > > >From: "RJ" <rjf1@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > >> > > >To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > >> > > >Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2004 2:16 PM
>> > >> > > >Subject: Re: Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0
>> > >> > > >
>> > >> > > >
>> > >> > > >You are looking right, there just isn't any bugs.=3D20
>> > Smiling here.
>> > >> > > >----- Original Message -----
>> > >> > > >From: "Margaret Thomas" <iluvtoread@xxxxxxx>
>> > >> > > >To: "jfw" <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > >> > > >Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2004 4:15 PM
>> > >> > > >Subject: Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0
>> > >> > > >
>> > >> > > >
>> > >> > > > > Good Afternoon,
>> > >> > > > >
>> > >> > > > >     I had a migraine when JAWS 6.0 was released =
> and=3D3D20
>> > >> am trying=3D3D3D20
>> > >> > > > > to=3D3D3D3D20 catch up with list mail before=3D20
>> > installing the new =3D3D
>> > > =3D3D3D
>> > >> release.
>> > >> > > > >
>> > >> > > > >     I've looked over the What's New section for
>> > >> > > > > 6.0=3D20=20 and=3D3D3D3D20
>> > >> > > could swear=3D3D3D3D20
>> > >> > > > > that there used to be a section on bug fixes, but I'm =
> =3D3D
>> > > not=3D3D3D3D20
>> > >> > > finding it=3D3D3D3D20
>> > >> > > > > for this version.  Am I having another senior moment, =
> =3D3D
>> > > or=3D3D3D3D20
>> > >> > > did FS not=3D3D3D3D20
>> > >> > > > > do it this time, or am I looking in the wrong=3D20
>> > place on=3D3D3D3D20
>> > >> > > the FS site? =3D3D3D3D20
>> > >> > > > > I've been looking at:
>> > >> > > > >
>> > >> > > > >
>> > >> > >=20
>> >http://www.freedomscientific.com/fs_products/software_jaws60f
>> > >> > > ea.asp#JAW
>> > >> > > >S_Features
>> > >> > > > >
>> > >> > > > >     Thanks,
>> > >> > > > > Margaret
>> > >> > > > > iluvtoread@xxxxxxx
>> > >> > > > >
>> > >> > > > > --
>> > >> > > > > To post a message to the list, send it to=3D3D3D20
>> > >> > jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To=3D3D3D3D20=3D3D3D20
>> > >> > > > > unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to
>> > >> > > >jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe
>> > >> > > >in=3D20=20 the=3D3D3D3D20
>> > >> > > subject line.
>> > >> > > > > Archives located at:=20
>> //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
>> > >> > > > >
>> > >> > > > > If you have any concerns about the list, post =3D
>> received=3D3D3D20
>> > >> > from the=3D3D3D3D20=3D3D3D20
>> > >> > > > > list, or
>> > >> > > >the way the list is being run, do not post them to
>> > >> > > >the=3D20=20 list.=3D3D3D20 Rather=3D3D3D3D20 contact the
>> > >> > > >list owner =
> at=3D20=20
>> > >> > > >jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > >> > > > >
>> > >> > > >
>> > >> > > >--
>> > >> > > >To post a message to the list, send it to=3D3D20
>> > >> jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To=3D3D3D3D20
>> > >> =3D3D3D
>> > >>=3D3D20
>> > >> > > >unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message=3D20=20
>> > >> > > >to=3D3D3D3D20=3D3D3D20 jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with=20
>> the word=3D20=20
>> > >> > > >unsubscribe in the=3D3D3D3D20
>> > >> > > subject line.
>> > >> > > >Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
>> > >> > > >
>> > >> > > >If you have any concerns about the list, post received =3D3D
>> > > from=3D3D3D3D20
>> > >> > > the list,=3D3D3D3D20
>> > >> > > >or the way the list is being run, do not post them to=3D20
>> > the=3D3D3D3D20
>> > >> > > list. Rather=3D3D3D3D20
>> > >> > > >contact the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > >> > > >
>> > >> > > >
>> > >> > > >--
>> > >> > > >No virus found in this incoming message.
>> > >> > > >Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.
>> > >> > > >Version: 7.0.296 / Virus Database: 265.6.3 - Release=3D20
>> > Date:=3D3D3D20
>> > >> > 12/21/2004
>> > >> > > >
>> > >> > > >
>> > >> > > >
>> > >> > > >
>> > >> > > >--
>> > >> > > >No virus found in this outgoing message.
>> > >> > > >Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.
>> > >> > > >Version: 7.0.296 / Virus Database: 265.6.3 - Release=3D20
>> > Date:=3D3D3D20
>> > >> > 12/21/2004
>> > >> > > >
>> > >> > > >--
>> > >> > > >To post a message to the list, send it to=3D3D20
>> > >> jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To=3D3D3D3D20
>> > >> =3D3D3D
>> > >>=3D3D20
>> > >> > > >unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message=3D20=20
>> > >> > > >to=3D3D3D3D20=3D3D3D20 jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with=20
>> the word=3D20=20
>> > >> > > >unsubscribe in the=3D3D3D3D20
>> > >> > > subject line.
>> > >> > > >Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
>> > >> > > >
>> > >> > > >If you have any concerns about the list, post received =3D3D
>> > > from=3D3D3D3D20
>> > >> > > the list,=3D3D3D3D20
>> > >> > > >or the way the list is being run, do not post them to=3D20
>> > the=3D3D3D3D20
>> > >> > > list. Rather=3D3D3D3D20
>> > >> > > >contact the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > >> > >=3D3D3D3D20
>> > >> > > --
>> > >> > > To post a message to the list, send it to=3D3D20
>> > >> jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D3D3D3D20  To
>> > >> =3D3D3D
>> > >>=3D3D20
>> > >> > >unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message=3D20
>> > to=3D3D3D3D20 =3D3D3D20
>> >=3D20
>> > >> > >jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe =
> in=3D3D3D20
>> > >> > the=3D3D3D3D20  subject=3D3D3D20
>> > >> > >line.
>> > >> > > Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
>> > >> > >=3D3D3D3D20
>> > >> > > If you have any concerns about the list, post received=3D3D20
>> > >> from=3D3D3D3D20  =3D3D3D
>> > >> the=3D3D3D20
>> > >> > >list, or the way the list is being run, do not post=3D3D20
>> > >> them=3D3D3D3D20  to the
>> > >> =3D3D3D
>> > >>=3D3D20
>> > >> > >list. Rather contact the list owner at=3D3D3D3D20  =3D3D3D
>> > >> jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > >> > >=3D3D3D3D20
>> > >> > >=3D3D3D3D20
>> > >> > > --
>> > >> > > No virus found in this incoming message.
>> > >> > > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.
>> > >> > > Version: 7.0.296 / Virus Database: 265.6.3 - Release =3D
>> Date:=3D3D3D20
>> > >> > 12/21/2004=3D3D3D20
>> > >> > >=3D3D3D3D20 =3D3D3D3D20 =3D3D3D3D20 =3D3D3D3D20  --=3D3D3D3D20
>
>> > >> > >=
> No=20
>> > >> > >virus=3D20
>> > found in this
>> >=3D20
>> > >> > >=3D3D
>> > > outgoing =3D3D3D
>> > >> message.
>> > >> > > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.
>> > >> > > Version: 7.0.296 / Virus Database: 265.6.3 - Release =3D
>> Date:=3D3D3D20
>> > >> > 12/21/2004=3D3D3D20
>> > >> > >=3D3D3D3D20
>> > >> > > --
>> > >> > > To post a message to the list, send it to=20
>> jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx  =3D
>> =3D3D
>> > > To=3D3D3D20
>> > >> > >unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message=3D20
>> > to=3D3D3D3D20 =3D3D3D20
>> >=3D20
>> > >> > >jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe =
> in=3D3D3D20
>> > >> > the=3D3D3D3D20  subject=3D3D3D20
>> > >> > >line.
>> > >> > > Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
>> > >> > >=3D3D3D3D20
>> > >> > > If you have any concerns about the list, post received=3D3D20
>> > >> from=3D3D3D3D20  =3D3D3D
>> > >> the=3D3D3D20
>> > >> > >list, or the way the list is being run, do not post=3D3D20
>> > >> them=3D3D3D3D20  to the
>> > >> =3D3D3D
>> > >>=3D3D20
>> > >> > >list. Rather contact the list owner at=3D3D3D3D20  =3D3D3D
>> > >> jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > >> > >=3D3D3D3D20
>> > >> > --
>> > >> > To post a message to the list, send it to=3D20
>> > jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D3D3D20 To=3D20
>> > >> >unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message =
> to=3D3D3D20=3D20=20
>> > >> >jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in=20
>> > >> >the=3D3D3D20=3D20 subject line.  Archives located at:
>> > >> >//www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
>> > >> >=3D3D3D20
>> > >> > If you have any concerns about the list, post received =3D
>> from=3D3D3D20=3D20
>> > >> >the list, or the way the list is being run, do not post=3D20
>> > them=3D3D3D20 to=3D20
>> > >> >the list. Rather contact the list owner at=3D3D3D20=3D20=20
>> > >> >jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx =3D3D3D20 =3D3D3D20
>> > >> > --
>> > >> > No virus found in this incoming message.
>> > >> > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.
>> > >> > Version: 7.0.298 / Virus Database: 265.6.5 - Release =
> Date:=3D3D20
>> > >> 12/26/2004
>> > >> >=3D3D3D20
>> > >> >=3D3D3D20
>> > >> >=3D3D3D20
>> > >> >=3D3D3D20
>> > >> >=3D3D3D20
>> > >> > --=3D3D3D20
>> > >> > No virus found in this outgoing message.
>> > >> > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.
>> > >> > Version: 7.0.298 / Virus Database: 265.6.5 - Release =
> Date:=3D3D20
>> > >> 12/26/2004
>> > >> >=3D3D3D20
>> > >> > --
>> > >> > To post a message to the list, send it to=20
>> jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To=3D20=20
>> > >> >unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message =
> to=3D3D3D20=3D20=20
>> > >> >jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in=20
>> > >> >the=3D3D3D20=3D20 subject line.  Archives located at:
>> > >> >//www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
>> > >> >=3D3D3D20
>> > >> > If you have any concerns about the list, post received =3D
>> from=3D3D3D20=3D20
>> > >> >the list, or the way the list is being run, do not post=3D20
>> > them=3D3D3D20 to=3D20
>> > >> >the list. Rather contact the list owner at=3D3D3D20=3D20=20
>> > >> >jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx =3D3D3D20
>> > >> --
>> > >> To post a message to the list, send it to=20
>> jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx  To=3D20=20
>> > >>unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to=3D20=20
>> > >>jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in=3D20
>> > the=3D3D20  subject
>> >=3D20
>> > >>line.  Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
>> > >>=3D3D20
>> > >> If you have any concerns about the list, post received=3D20
>> > from=3D3D20  the=3D20
>> > >>list, or  the way the list is being run, do not post them=3D20
>> > to the list.=3D20
>> > >>Rather  contact the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx =
> =3D3D20=20
>> > >>=3D3D20
>> > >> --
>> > >> To post a message to the list, send it to=20
>> jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx  To=3D20=20
>> > >>unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to=3D3D20 =3D20
>
>> > >>=
>
>> > >>jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in=3D20
>> > the=3D3D20  subject=3D20
>> > >>line.
>> > >> Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
>> > >>=3D3D20
>> > >> If you have any concerns about the list, post received=3D20
>> > from=3D3D20  the=3D20
>> > >>list, or the way the list is being run, do not post=20
>> them=3D3D20  to =3D
>> the=3D20
>> > >>list. Rather contact the list owner at=3D3D20  =3D
>> jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > >>=3D3D20
>> > > --
>> > > To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx =
> To=3D20=20
>> > > unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to=3D20=20
>> > > jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the=20
>> > > subject=3D20 line. Archives located at:
>> > > //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
>> > >
>> > > If you have any concerns about the list, post received from=3D20
>> > the list,=3D20
>> > > or the way the list is being run, do not post them to the=3D20
>> > list. Rather=3D20
>> > > contact the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > >=3D20
>> >=3D20
>> >=3D20
>> > --
>> > To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D20  To
>
>> >=
>
>> >unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to=3D20=20
>> >jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in=20
>> the=3D20  subject=20
>> >line.  Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
>> >=3D20
>> > If you have any concerns about the list, post received from=3D20  =
> the=20
>> >list, or the way the list is being run, do not post them=3D20  to the
>
>> >=
>
>> >list. Rather contact the list owner at=3D20  =
> jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >=3D20
>> >=3D20
>> > --
>> > To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D20  To
>
>> >=
>
>> >unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to=3D20 =20
>> >jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in=20
>> the=3D20  subject=20
>> >line.
>> > Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
>> >=3D20
>> > If you have any concerns about the list, post received from=3D20  =
> the=20
>> >list, or the way the list is being run, do not post them=3D20  to the
>
>> >=
>
>> >list. Rather contact the list owner at=3D20  =
> jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >=3D20
>> --
>> To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=20  To
>>unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to=20
>>jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the=20  subject
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>> to the list. Rather contact the list owner at=20
>> jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>=20
>> --
>> To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=20
>> To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to=20
>> jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the=20
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>> the list, or the way the list is being run, do not post them=20
>> to the list. Rather contact the list owner at=20
>> jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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> --
> To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to
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>
> If you have any concerns about the list, post received from the list, or
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> contact the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
> --
> To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to
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> list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> From: "david poehlman" <david.poehlman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: Windows Up Date settings with JFW
> Date: Thu, 30 Dec 2004 10:13:45 -0500
>
> this is automatic updates and no matter which version of jaws you are 
> using,
> you will find automatic updates in controll panel.  Activating this item
> brings up a dialog providing choices for settings.
>
> Johnnie Apple Seed
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "AB7HW Dick Lee Chrisman" <ab7hw@xxxxxxx>
> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 11:27 PM
> Subject: Windows Up Date settings with JFW
>
>
> Hello All
> Using JFW 5.00.844 how do I find the Windows XP up date settings?  I want 
> to
> make sure the Windows XP up date is set to manual.
> I look forward to your information.
> Dick
>
>
> --
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> ------------------------------
>
> From: "Horspool, Matthew F." <drjaws@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re: Bug Fixes in 
> JAWS 6
> Date: Thu, 30 Dec 2004 15:13:48 -0000
>
> Right.  I used the System Information tool and saved in plain text.
>
> -------------------------
> Mr. Matthew F. Horspool
>
> Send me an Electronic Mail to
> drjaws@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
> Add
> horspool@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> to your MSN contact list
>
> Or Visit my web site at
> http://www.horspool.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk
> -------------------------
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> Behalf Of david poehlman
> Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 3:11 PM
> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re: Bug Fixes in
> JAWS 6.0
>
>
> matt,
>
> If you go to control panel, open system and read with the jaws cursor or
>
> ins+b, you are told in plain english what system you have.  I'm not sure
> what you are running to get the result you have below, but thought this
> might help.
>
> Johnnie Apple Seed
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Horspool, Matthew F." <drjaws@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 3:26 AM
> Subject: RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re: Bug Fixes in
>
> JAWS 6.0
>
>
> OK, I thought I got it right, but when I interrogated the system this
> line came up:
> Processor: x86 Family 15 Model 2 Stepping 7 GenuineIntel ~2532 MhZ
>
> If I interpreted this line correctly I have a 2532MhZ processor!
>
> -------------------------
> Mr. Matthew F. Horspool
>
> Send me an Electronic Mail to
> drjaws@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
> Add
> horspool@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> to your MSN contact list
>
> Or Visit my web site at http://www.horspool.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk
> -------------------------
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> Behalf Of Chip Orange
> Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 5:13 PM
> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re: Bug Fixes in
> JAWS 6.0
>
>
> If you got that right (and it's not a typo) and your processor speed was
> only 256 mhz, then I could see why switching to a hardware synthesizer
> had such an improvement for you.  That was quite a load for your system.
>
> Chip
>
> =20
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=20  [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>>On Behalf Of Horspool, Matthew F.
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 12:05 PM
>> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re:=20  Bug
>>Fixes in JAWS 6.0 =20  Well I had 512MB RAM and about 256MHZ
>>Processors.  Running at=20  once I had a copy of WinAmp with the Audio
>>stocker and=20  SHOUTcast plugin, Microsoft Outlook, SHOUTcast DNAS
>>(GUI),=20  BVentrilo and the Ventrilo Server, and a copy of JFW.
>>This=20  slowed down the system quite a bit.
>>=20
>> -------------------------
>> Mr. Matthew F. Horspool
>> =20
>> Send me an Electronic Mail to
>> drjaws@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> =20
>> Add
>> horspool@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> to your MSN contact list
>> =20
>> Or Visit my web site at
>> http://www.horspool.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk
>> -------------------------
>>=20
>>=20
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=20
>> [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Chip Orange
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 4:38 PM
>> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re:=20
>> Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0
>>=20
>>=20
>> Ok,  this is the first opinion which strongly prefers one to=20
>> another for other than subjective reasons, and I appreciate it.
>>=20
>> Would you say the system you were using when you made the=20
>> switch was unusually slow, short of ram, or overloaded with=20
>> processing tasks?
>>=20
>> Thanks.
>>=20
>> Chip
>>=20
>> =3D20
>>=20
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D20 =20
>> [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]=20
>> >On Behalf Of Horspool, Matthew F.
>> > Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 11:30 AM
>> > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > Subject: RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re:=3D20  =
> Bug=20
>> >Fixes in JAWS 6.0 =3D20  Used DECtalk ACCESS32 for about a=20
>> year and then=20
>> >switched to a=3D20  DECtalk USB for to get better broadcast=20
>> clarity.  I=20
>> >certainly=3D20  have noticed a huge difference in responsiveness:  =
> The=20
>> >DEC=3D20  USB is faster - a lot faster!
>> >=3D20
>> > -------------------------
>> > Mr. Matthew F. Horspool
>> > =3D20
>> > Send me an Electronic Mail to
>> > drjaws@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > =3D20
>> > Add
>> > horspool@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > to your MSN contact list
>> > =3D20
>> > Or Visit my web site at  http://www.horspool.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk
>> > -------------------------
>> >=3D20
>> >=3D20
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D20
>> >[mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of John Miller
>> > Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 4:20 PM
>> > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > Subject: Re: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re:=3D20  =
> Bug=20
>> >Fixes in JAWS 6.0 =3D20 =3D20  I don't notice it if so.
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: "Chip Orange" <Corange@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 10:47 AM
>> > Subject: RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re:=3D20  =
> Bug=20
>> >Fixes in =3D20  JAWS 6.0 =3D20 =3D20
>> > > Yes; and they do use some processor time.  The question is that=20
>
>> > > on=3D20 todays systems, which usually have plenty of =
> processor=3D20
>> > speed and RAM,=3D20
>> > > does that really make any difference?
>> > >
>> > > Now, I know that it does from reports on AT&T Natural
>> > > Voices=3D20=20 specifically, but I was wondering about Eloquence.
>> > >
>> > > Thanks.
>> > >
>> > > Chip
>> > >
>> > > =3D3D20
>> > >
>> > >> -----Original Message-----
>> > >> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D3D20 =3D20
>> > [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]=3D20
>> > >>On Behalf Of Flor Lynch
>> > >> Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2004 9:00 PM
>> > >> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > >> Subject: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re:=3D20
>> > Bug=3D3D20  Fixes
>> >=3D20
>> > >>in JAWS 6.0 =3D3D20
>> > >> Software synths take up more RAM than hardware ones do.
>> > >> ----- Original Message -----
>> > >> From: "Chip Orange" <Corange@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > >> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > >> Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2004 2:22 PM
>> > >> Subject: RE: Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0
>> > >>=3D3D20
>> > >>=3D3D20
>> > >> Well, no argument with your first point, it is more=3D20
>> > difficult to have =3D20
>> > >>all of the sound coming out of one source; but, when you=3D20
>> > need to use =3D20
>> > >>headphones so as not to disturb someone else, it's also =
> more=3D3D20=20
>> > >>=3D20 convenient. =3D3D20  As for your second, that just=20
>> seems to come=20
>> > >>down to personal=3D3D20
>> =3D20
>> > >>preference  as it doesn't bother me a bit.
>> > >>=3D3D20
>> > >> There is one which you didn't mention, but which I've=3D20
>> > always wondered =3D20
>> > >>about, and that's how much of a load does Eloquence place=3D20
>> > on=3D3D20  your=3D20
>> > >>system  by having the software synth as compared to sending=3D20
>> > the text=3D20
>> > >>to be  spoken out of the serial port?  Anyone have any facts=20
>> > >>along=3D20 this
>> > line?
>> > >>=3D3D20
>> > >> Thanks.
>> > >>=3D3D20
>> > >> Chip
>> > >>=3D3D20
>> > >> =3D3D3D20
>> > >>=3D3D20
>> > >> > -----Original Message-----
>> > >> > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D3D3D20=3D20
>> > >> >[mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Kerri
>> > >> > Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2004 2:04 AM
>> > >> > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > >> > Subject: Re: Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0 =3D3D3D20  Hello  Chip. I=20
>
>> > >> >despise software synthesizers mainly=3D20
>> > because=3D3D3D20 if=3D20
>> > >> >you are required to listen to other media, I find it=20
>> to=3D3D3D20=3D20=20
>> > >> >difficult to with a software synthesizer coming through=20
>> the=3D3D3D20
>>=20
>> > >> >=3D
>>=20
>> > >> >same speakers. I also dislike elloquence's voice, *all of them*
>> > >> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > >> > From: "Chip Orange" <Corange@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > >> > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > >> > Sent: Monday, December 27, 2004 12:02 PM
>> > >> > Subject: RE: Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0 =3D3D3D20 =3D3D3D20  I'm=20
>> > >> >interested in hearing why, as I use a DT express at=3D20
>> > work,=3D3D3D20
>> >=3D20
>> > >> >and eloquence at home, and really haven't felt there's=20
>> much=3D3D3D20
>>=20
>> > >> >=3D
>>=20
>> > >> >difference.  Perhaps there's just something I'm=20
>> missing? =3D3D3D20 =20
>> > >> >Thanks.
>> > >> >=3D3D3D20
>> > >> > Chip
>> > >> >=3D3D3D20
>> > >> > =3D3D3D3D20
>> > >> >=3D3D3D20
>> > >> > > -----Original Message-----
>> > >> > > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D3D3D3D20=3D20
>> > >> > >[mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Kerri
>> > >> > > Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2004 12:17 AM
>> > >> > > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > >> > > Subject: Re: Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0 =3D3D3D3D20  Chris, I=3D20
>> > vehemently=3D20
>> > >> > >despise software synthesizers hence=3D3D3D20
>> > >> > my=3D3D3D3D20  dectalk=3D3D3D20
>> > >> > >use and this is the only version that has been =3D
>> rather=3D3D3D3D20=3D3D20
>> > >>  sluggish.
>> > >> > > ----- Original Message -----
>> > >> > > From: "Chris Skarstad" <toonhead5@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > >> > > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > >> > > Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2004 4:15 PM
>> > >> > > Subject: Re: Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0 =3D3D3D3D20 =3D3D3D3D20 =
> =3D20
>> > man I guess=3D20
>> > >> > >I'm very lucky then. This version actually runs =3D3D
>> > > a=3D3D3D3D20
>> > >> =3D3D3D20
>> > >> > >little faster on my system than 5.10 did. Then again=3D3D20
>> > >> I'm=3D3D3D3D20  using
>> > >> =3D3D3D
>> > >> a=3D3D3D20
>> > >> > >hardware synthesizer which is probably the=20
>> reason.=3D3D3D3D20  =3D3D
>> > > Never=3D3D3D20
>> > >> > did like=3D3D3D20
>> > >> > >software speech and never will based on what=3D3D3D3D20=20
>>  I've=3D3D20
>> > >> seen.  By the
>> > >> =3D3D3D
>> > >>=3D3D20
>> > >> > >way, the murge feature is there. go to=3D3D3D3D20  your=20
>> jaws=3D3D20
>> > >> window with =3D3D3D
>> > >> alt=3D3D3D20
>> > >> > >plus j, press alt u for utilities,=3D3D3D3D20  and it's =
> in=3D3D20
>> > >> there. or simply
>> > >> =3D3D3D
>> > >>=3D3D20
>> > >> > >bring up the context menu if=3D3D3D3D20  you're running=20
>> jaws in =3D
>> =3D3D
>> > > the=3D3D3D20
>> > >> > system tray=3D3D3D20
>> > >> > >and go to utilities=3D3D3D3D20  and the murge utility=20
>> is there.=3D20
>>=20
>> > >> > >=3D3D3D3D20  At 04:29 PM 12/21/2004, you wrote:
>> > >> > > >Hay, you mean, they haven't fixed any right? I'm=3D20
>> > sorry, I=3D3D3D3D20
>> > >> > > just couldn't=3D3D3D3D20
>> > >> > > >resist. In truth, this has been the worst version =
> I've=3D3D20
>> > >> had the=3D3D3D3D20
>> > >> =3D3D3D
>> > >>=3D3D20
>> > >> > > >misfortune to deal with in a long while. It runs=3D3D20
>> > >> terribley slow,=3D3D3D20
>> > >> > > >I'm=3D3D3D3D20 getting false attachments, no merge=20
>> feature=3D3D20
>> > >> anywhere. I=3D3D3D20
>> > >> > > >love=3D3D3D3D20
>> > >> > > spending=3D3D3D3D20
>> > >> > > >money on this "improved" product. Sorry, I'm being a grinch.
>> > >> > > >----- Original Message -----
>> > >> > > >From: "RJ" <rjf1@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > >> > > >To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > >> > > >Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2004 2:16 PM
>> > >> > > >Subject: Re: Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0
>> > >> > > >
>> > >> > > >
>> > >> > > >You are looking right, there just isn't any bugs.=3D20
>> > Smiling here.
>> > >> > > >----- Original Message -----
>> > >> > > >From: "Margaret Thomas" <iluvtoread@xxxxxxx>
>> > >> > > >To: "jfw" <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > >> > > >Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2004 4:15 PM
>> > >> > > >Subject: Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0
>> > >> > > >
>> > >> > > >
>> > >> > > > > Good Afternoon,
>> > >> > > > >
>> > >> > > > >     I had a migraine when JAWS 6.0 was released =
> and=3D3D20
>> > >> am trying=3D3D3D20
>> > >> > > > > to=3D3D3D3D20 catch up with list mail before=3D20
>> > installing the new =3D3D
>> > > =3D3D3D
>> > >> release.
>> > >> > > > >
>> > >> > > > >     I've looked over the What's New section for
>> > >> > > > > 6.0=3D20=20 and=3D3D3D3D20
>> > >> > > could swear=3D3D3D3D20
>> > >> > > > > that there used to be a section on bug fixes, but I'm =
> =3D3D
>> > > not=3D3D3D3D20
>> > >> > > finding it=3D3D3D3D20
>> > >> > > > > for this version.  Am I having another senior moment, =
> =3D3D
>> > > or=3D3D3D3D20
>> > >> > > did FS not=3D3D3D3D20
>> > >> > > > > do it this time, or am I looking in the wrong=3D20
>> > place on=3D3D3D3D20
>> > >> > > the FS site? =3D3D3D3D20
>> > >> > > > > I've been looking at:
>> > >> > > > >
>> > >> > > > >
>> > >> > >=20
>> >http://www.freedomscientific.com/fs_products/software_jaws60f
>> > >> > > ea.asp#JAW
>> > >> > > >S_Features
>> > >> > > > >
>> > >> > > > >     Thanks,
>> > >> > > > > Margaret
>> > >> > > > > iluvtoread@xxxxxxx
>> > >> > > > >
>> > >> > > > > --
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>> > >> > jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To=3D3D3D3D20=3D3D3D20
>> > >> > > > > unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to
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>> > >> > > >in=3D20=20 the=3D3D3D3D20
>> > >> > > subject line.
>> > >> > > > > Archives located at:=20
>> //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
>> > >> > > > >
>> > >> > > > > If you have any concerns about the list, post =3D
>> received=3D3D3D20
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>> > >> > > >list owner =
> at=3D20=20
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>> > >> > > >
>> > >> > > >--
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>> > >> =3D3D3D
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>> > >> > > >unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message=3D20=20
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>> > >> > > the list,=3D3D3D3D20
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>> > the=3D3D3D3D20
>> > >> > > list. Rather=3D3D3D3D20
>> > >> > > >contact the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > >> > > >
>> > >> > > >
>> > >> > > >--
>> > >> > > >No virus found in this incoming message.
>> > >> > > >Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.
>> > >> > > >Version: 7.0.296 / Virus Database: 265.6.3 - Release=3D20
>> > Date:=3D3D3D20
>> > >> > 12/21/2004
>> > >> > > >
>> > >> > > >
>> > >> > > >
>> > >> > > >
>> > >> > > >--
>> > >> > > >No virus found in this outgoing message.
>> > >> > > >Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.
>> > >> > > >Version: 7.0.296 / Virus Database: 265.6.3 - Release=3D20
>> > Date:=3D3D3D20
>> > >> > 12/21/2004
>> > >> > > >
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>> > >> jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To=3D3D3D3D20
>> > >> =3D3D3D
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>> > >> > > >unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message=3D20=20
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>> > >> > > >unsubscribe in the=3D3D3D3D20
>> > >> > > subject line.
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>> > > from=3D3D3D3D20
>> > >> > > the list,=3D3D3D3D20
>> > >> > > >or the way the list is being run, do not post them to=3D20
>> > the=3D3D3D3D20
>> > >> > > list. Rather=3D3D3D3D20
>> > >> > > >contact the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > >> > >=3D3D3D3D20
>> > >> > > --
>> > >> > > To post a message to the list, send it to=3D3D20
>> > >> jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D3D3D3D20  To
>> > >> =3D3D3D
>> > >>=3D3D20
>> > >> > >unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message=3D20
>> > to=3D3D3D3D20 =3D3D3D20
>> >=3D20
>> > >> > >jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe =
> in=3D3D3D20
>> > >> > the=3D3D3D3D20  subject=3D3D3D20
>> > >> > >line.
>> > >> > > Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
>> > >> > >=3D3D3D3D20
>> > >> > > If you have any concerns about the list, post received=3D3D20
>> > >> from=3D3D3D3D20  =3D3D3D
>> > >> the=3D3D3D20
>> > >> > >list, or the way the list is being run, do not post=3D3D20
>> > >> them=3D3D3D3D20  to the
>> > >> =3D3D3D
>> > >>=3D3D20
>> > >> > >list. Rather contact the list owner at=3D3D3D3D20  =3D3D3D
>> > >> jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > >> > >=3D3D3D3D20
>> > >> > >=3D3D3D3D20
>> > >> > > --
>> > >> > > No virus found in this incoming message.
>> > >> > > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.
>> > >> > > Version: 7.0.296 / Virus Database: 265.6.3 - Release =3D
>> Date:=3D3D3D20
>> > >> > 12/21/2004=3D3D3D20
>> > >> > >=3D3D3D3D20 =3D3D3D3D20 =3D3D3D3D20 =3D3D3D3D20  --=3D3D3D3D20
>
>> > >> > >=
> No=20
>> > >> > >virus=3D20
>> > found in this
>> >=3D20
>> > >> > >=3D3D
>> > > outgoing =3D3D3D
>> > >> message.
>> > >> > > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.
>> > >> > > Version: 7.0.296 / Virus Database: 265.6.3 - Release =3D
>> Date:=3D3D3D20
>> > >> > 12/21/2004=3D3D3D20
>> > >> > >=3D3D3D3D20
>> > >> > > --
>> > >> > > To post a message to the list, send it to=20
>> jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx  =3D
>> =3D3D
>> > > To=3D3D3D20
>> > >> > >unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message=3D20
>> > to=3D3D3D3D20 =3D3D3D20
>> >=3D20
>> > >> > >jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe =
> in=3D3D3D20
>> > >> > the=3D3D3D3D20  subject=3D3D3D20
>> > >> > >line.
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> From: "david poehlman" <david.poehlman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re: Bug Fixes in 
> JAWS 6
> Date: Thu, 30 Dec 2004 10:22:43 -0500
>
> What do you get then when you look at system in controll panel?
>
> Johnnie Apple Seed
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Horspool, Matthew F." <drjaws@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 10:13 AM
> Subject: RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re: Bug Fixes in
> JAWS 6.0
>
>
> Right.  I used the System Information tool and saved in plain text.
>
> -------------------------
> Mr. Matthew F. Horspool
>
> Send me an Electronic Mail to
> drjaws@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
> Add
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> Or Visit my web site at
> http://www.horspool.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk
> -------------------------
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> Behalf Of david poehlman
> Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 3:11 PM
> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re: Bug Fixes in
> JAWS 6.0
>
>
> matt,
>
> If you go to control panel, open system and read with the jaws cursor or
>
> ins+b, you are told in plain english what system you have.  I'm not sure
> what you are running to get the result you have below, but thought this
> might help.
>
> Johnnie Apple Seed
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Horspool, Matthew F." <drjaws@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 3:26 AM
> Subject: RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re: Bug Fixes in
>
> JAWS 6.0
>
>
> OK, I thought I got it right, but when I interrogated the system this
> line came up:
> Processor: x86 Family 15 Model 2 Stepping 7 GenuineIntel ~2532 MhZ
>
> If I interpreted this line correctly I have a 2532MhZ processor!
>
> -------------------------
> Mr. Matthew F. Horspool
>
> Send me an Electronic Mail to
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> Or Visit my web site at http://www.horspool.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk
> -------------------------
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> Behalf Of Chip Orange
> Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 5:13 PM
> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re: Bug Fixes in
> JAWS 6.0
>
>
> If you got that right (and it's not a typo) and your processor speed was
> only 256 mhz, then I could see why switching to a hardware synthesizer
> had such an improvement for you.  That was quite a load for your system.
>
> Chip
>
> =20
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=20  [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>>On Behalf Of Horspool, Matthew F.
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 12:05 PM
>> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re:=20  Bug
>>Fixes in JAWS 6.0 =20  Well I had 512MB RAM and about 256MHZ
>>Processors.  Running at=20  once I had a copy of WinAmp with the Audio
>>stocker and=20  SHOUTcast plugin, Microsoft Outlook, SHOUTcast DNAS
>>(GUI),=20  BVentrilo and the Ventrilo Server, and a copy of JFW.
>>This=20  slowed down the system quite a bit.
>>=20
>> -------------------------
>> Mr. Matthew F. Horspool
>> =20
>> Send me an Electronic Mail to
>> drjaws@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> =20
>> Add
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>> Or Visit my web site at
>> http://www.horspool.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk
>> -------------------------
>>=20
>>=20
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=20
>> [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Chip Orange
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 4:38 PM
>> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re:=20
>> Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0
>>=20
>>=20
>> Ok,  this is the first opinion which strongly prefers one to=20
>> another for other than subjective reasons, and I appreciate it.
>>=20
>> Would you say the system you were using when you made the=20
>> switch was unusually slow, short of ram, or overloaded with=20
>> processing tasks?
>>=20
>> Thanks.
>>=20
>> Chip
>>=20
>> =3D20
>>=20
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D20 =20
>> [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]=20
>> >On Behalf Of Horspool, Matthew F.
>> > Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 11:30 AM
>> > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > Subject: RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re:=3D20  =
> Bug=20
>> >Fixes in JAWS 6.0 =3D20  Used DECtalk ACCESS32 for about a=20
>> year and then=20
>> >switched to a=3D20  DECtalk USB for to get better broadcast=20
>> clarity.  I=20
>> >certainly=3D20  have noticed a huge difference in responsiveness:  =
> The=20
>> >DEC=3D20  USB is faster - a lot faster!
>> >=3D20
>> > -------------------------
>> > Mr. Matthew F. Horspool
>> > =3D20
>> > Send me an Electronic Mail to
>> > drjaws@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > =3D20
>> > Add
>> > horspool@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > to your MSN contact list
>> > =3D20
>> > Or Visit my web site at  http://www.horspool.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk
>> > -------------------------
>> >=3D20
>> >=3D20
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D20
>> >[mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of John Miller
>> > Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 4:20 PM
>> > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > Subject: Re: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re:=3D20  =
> Bug=20
>> >Fixes in JAWS 6.0 =3D20 =3D20  I don't notice it if so.
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: "Chip Orange" <Corange@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 10:47 AM
>> > Subject: RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re:=3D20  =
> Bug=20
>> >Fixes in =3D20  JAWS 6.0 =3D20 =3D20
>> > > Yes; and they do use some processor time.  The question is that=20
>
>> > > on=3D20 todays systems, which usually have plenty of =
> processor=3D20
>> > speed and RAM,=3D20
>> > > does that really make any difference?
>> > >
>> > > Now, I know that it does from reports on AT&T Natural
>> > > Voices=3D20=20 specifically, but I was wondering about Eloquence.
>> > >
>> > > Thanks.
>> > >
>> > > Chip
>> > >
>> > > =3D3D20
>> > >
>> > >> -----Original Message-----
>> > >> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D3D20 =3D20
>> > [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]=3D20
>> > >>On Behalf Of Flor Lynch
>> > >> Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2004 9:00 PM
>> > >> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > >> Subject: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re:=3D20
>> > Bug=3D3D20  Fixes
>> >=3D20
>> > >>in JAWS 6.0 =3D3D20
>> > >> Software synths take up more RAM than hardware ones do.
>> > >> ----- Original Message -----
>> > >> From: "Chip Orange" <Corange@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > >> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > >> Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2004 2:22 PM
>> > >> Subject: RE: Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0
>> > >>=3D3D20
>> > >>=3D3D20
>> > >> Well, no argument with your first point, it is more=3D20
>> > difficult to have =3D20
>> > >>all of the sound coming out of one source; but, when you=3D20
>> > need to use =3D20
>> > >>headphones so as not to disturb someone else, it's also =
> more=3D3D20=20
>> > >>=3D20 convenient. =3D3D20  As for your second, that just=20
>> seems to come=20
>> > >>down to personal=3D3D20
>> =3D20
>> > >>preference  as it doesn't bother me a bit.
>> > >>=3D3D20
>> > >> There is one which you didn't mention, but which I've=3D20
>> > always wondered =3D20
>> > >>about, and that's how much of a load does Eloquence place=3D20
>> > on=3D3D20  your=3D20
>> > >>system  by having the software synth as compared to sending=3D20
>> > the text=3D20
>> > >>to be  spoken out of the serial port?  Anyone have any facts=20
>> > >>along=3D20 this
>> > line?
>> > >>=3D3D20
>> > >> Thanks.
>> > >>=3D3D20
>> > >> Chip
>> > >>=3D3D20
>> > >> =3D3D3D20
>> > >>=3D3D20
>> > >> > -----Original Message-----
>> > >> > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D3D3D20=3D20
>> > >> >[mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Kerri
>> > >> > Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2004 2:04 AM
>> > >> > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > >> > Subject: Re: Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0 =3D3D3D20  Hello  Chip. I=20
>
>> > >> >despise software synthesizers mainly=3D20
>> > because=3D3D3D20 if=3D20
>> > >> >you are required to listen to other media, I find it=20
>> to=3D3D3D20=3D20=20
>> > >> >difficult to with a software synthesizer coming through=20
>> the=3D3D3D20
>>=20
>> > >> >=3D
>>=20
>> > >> >same speakers. I also dislike elloquence's voice, *all of them*
>> > >> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > >> > From: "Chip Orange" <Corange@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > >> > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > >> > Sent: Monday, December 27, 2004 12:02 PM
>> > >> > Subject: RE: Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0 =3D3D3D20 =3D3D3D20  I'm=20
>> > >> >interested in hearing why, as I use a DT express at=3D20
>> > work,=3D3D3D20
>> >=3D20
>> > >> >and eloquence at home, and really haven't felt there's=20
>> much=3D3D3D20
>>=20
>> > >> >=3D
>>=20
>> > >> >difference.  Perhaps there's just something I'm=20
>> missing? =3D3D3D20 =20
>> > >> >Thanks.
>> > >> >=3D3D3D20
>> > >> > Chip
>> > >> >=3D3D3D20
>> > >> > =3D3D3D3D20
>> > >> >=3D3D3D20
>> > >> > > -----Original Message-----
>> > >> > > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D3D3D3D20=3D20
>> > >> > >[mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Kerri
>> > >> > > Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2004 12:17 AM
>> > >> > > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > >> > > Subject: Re: Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0 =3D3D3D3D20  Chris, I=3D20
>> > vehemently=3D20
>> > >> > >despise software synthesizers hence=3D3D3D20
>> > >> > my=3D3D3D3D20  dectalk=3D3D3D20
>> > >> > >use and this is the only version that has been =3D
>> rather=3D3D3D3D20=3D3D20
>> > >>  sluggish.
>> > >> > > ----- Original Message -----
>> > >> > > From: "Chris Skarstad" <toonhead5@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > >> > > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > >> > > Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2004 4:15 PM
>> > >> > > Subject: Re: Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0 =3D3D3D3D20 =3D3D3D3D20 =
> =3D20
>> > man I guess=3D20
>> > >> > >I'm very lucky then. This version actually runs =3D3D
>> > > a=3D3D3D3D20
>> > >> =3D3D3D20
>> > >> > >little faster on my system than 5.10 did. Then again=3D3D20
>> > >> I'm=3D3D3D3D20  using
>> > >> =3D3D3D
>> > >> a=3D3D3D20
>> > >> > >hardware synthesizer which is probably the=20
>> reason.=3D3D3D3D20  =3D3D
>> > > Never=3D3D3D20
>> > >> > did like=3D3D3D20
>> > >> > >software speech and never will based on what=3D3D3D3D20=20
>>  I've=3D3D20
>> > >> seen.  By the
>> > >> =3D3D3D
>> > >>=3D3D20
>> > >> > >way, the murge feature is there. go to=3D3D3D3D20  your=20
>> jaws=3D3D20
>> > >> window with =3D3D3D
>> > >> alt=3D3D3D20
>> > >> > >plus j, press alt u for utilities,=3D3D3D3D20  and it's =
> in=3D3D20
>> > >> there. or simply
>> > >> =3D3D3D
>> > >>=3D3D20
>> > >> > >bring up the context menu if=3D3D3D3D20  you're running=20
>> jaws in =3D
>> =3D3D
>> > > the=3D3D3D20
>> > >> > system tray=3D3D3D20
>> > >> > >and go to utilities=3D3D3D3D20  and the murge utility=20
>> is there.=3D20
>>=20
>> > >> > >=3D3D3D3D20  At 04:29 PM 12/21/2004, you wrote:
>> > >> > > >Hay, you mean, they haven't fixed any right? I'm=3D20
>> > sorry, I=3D3D3D3D20
>> > >> > > just couldn't=3D3D3D3D20
>> > >> > > >resist. In truth, this has been the worst version =
> I've=3D3D20
>> > >> had the=3D3D3D3D20
>> > >> =3D3D3D
>> > >>=3D3D20
>> > >> > > >misfortune to deal with in a long while. It runs=3D3D20
>> > >> terribley slow,=3D3D3D20
>> > >> > > >I'm=3D3D3D3D20 getting false attachments, no merge=20
>> feature=3D3D20
>> > >> anywhere. I=3D3D3D20
>> > >> > > >love=3D3D3D3D20
>> > >> > > spending=3D3D3D3D20
>> > >> > > >money on this "improved" product. Sorry, I'm being a grinch.
>> > >> > > >----- Original Message -----
>> > >> > > >From: "RJ" <rjf1@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > >> > > >To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > >> > > >Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2004 2:16 PM
>> > >> > > >Subject: Re: Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0
>> > >> > > >
>> > >> > > >
>> > >> > > >You are looking right, there just isn't any bugs.=3D20
>> > Smiling here.
>> > >> > > >----- Original Message -----
>> > >> > > >From: "Margaret Thomas" <iluvtoread@xxxxxxx>
>> > >> > > >To: "jfw" <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > >> > > >Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2004 4:15 PM
>> > >> > > >Subject: Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0
>> > >> > > >
>> > >> > > >
>> > >> > > > > Good Afternoon,
>> > >> > > > >
>> > >> > > > >     I had a migraine when JAWS 6.0 was released =
> and=3D3D20
>> > >> am trying=3D3D3D20
>> > >> > > > > to=3D3D3D3D20 catch up with list mail before=3D20
>> > installing the new =3D3D
>> > > =3D3D3D
>> > >> release.
>> > >> > > > >
>> > >> > > > >     I've looked over the What's New section for
>> > >> > > > > 6.0=3D20=20 and=3D3D3D3D20
>> > >> > > could swear=3D3D3D3D20
>> > >> > > > > that there used to be a section on bug fixes, but I'm =
> =3D3D
>> > > not=3D3D3D3D20
>> > >> > > finding it=3D3D3D3D20
>> > >> > > > > for this version.  Am I having another senior moment, =
> =3D3D
>> > > or=3D3D3D3D20
>> > >> > > did FS not=3D3D3D3D20
>> > >> > > > > do it this time, or am I looking in the wrong=3D20
>> > place on=3D3D3D3D20
>> > >> > > the FS site? =3D3D3D3D20
>> > >> > > > > I've been looking at:
>> > >> > > > >
>> > >> > > > >
>> > >> > >=20
>> >http://www.freedomscientific.com/fs_products/software_jaws60f
>> > >> > > ea.asp#JAW
>> > >> > > >S_Features
>> > >> > > > >
>> > >> > > > >     Thanks,
>> > >> > > > > Margaret
>> > >> > > > > iluvtoread@xxxxxxx
>> > >> > > > >
>> > >> > > > > --
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>> > >> > jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To=3D3D3D3D20=3D3D3D20
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>> > >> > > list. Rather=3D3D3D3D20
>> > >> > > >contact the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > >> > > >
>> > >> > > >
>> > >> > > >--
>> > >> > > >No virus found in this incoming message.
>> > >> > > >Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.
>> > >> > > >Version: 7.0.296 / Virus Database: 265.6.3 - Release=3D20
>> > Date:=3D3D3D20
>> > >> > 12/21/2004
>> > >> > > >
>> > >> > > >
>> > >> > > >
>> > >> > > >
>> > >> > > >--
>> > >> > > >No virus found in this outgoing message.
>> > >> > > >Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.
>> > >> > > >Version: 7.0.296 / Virus Database: 265.6.3 - Release=3D20
>> > Date:=3D3D3D20
>> > >> > 12/21/2004
>> > >> > > >
>> > >> > > >--
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>> > the=3D3D3D3D20
>> > >> > > list. Rather=3D3D3D3D20
>> > >> > > >contact the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > >> > >=3D3D3D3D20
>> > >> > > --
>> > >> > > To post a message to the list, send it to=3D3D20
>> > >> jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D3D3D3D20  To
>> > >> =3D3D3D
>> > >>=3D3D20
>> > >> > >unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message=3D20
>> > to=3D3D3D3D20 =3D3D3D20
>> >=3D20
>> > >> > >jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe =
> in=3D3D3D20
>> > >> > the=3D3D3D3D20  subject=3D3D3D20
>> > >> > >line.
>> > >> > > Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
>> > >> > >=3D3D3D3D20
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>> > >> the=3D3D3D20
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>> > >> them=3D3D3D3D20  to the
>> > >> =3D3D3D
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>> > >> > >list. Rather contact the list owner at=3D3D3D3D20  =3D3D3D
>> > >> jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > >> > >=3D3D3D3D20
>> > >> > >=3D3D3D3D20
>> > >> > > --
>> > >> > > No virus found in this incoming message.
>> > >> > > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.
>> > >> > > Version: 7.0.296 / Virus Database: 265.6.3 - Release =3D
>> Date:=3D3D3D20
>> > >> > 12/21/2004=3D3D3D20
>> > >> > >=3D3D3D3D20 =3D3D3D3D20 =3D3D3D3D20 =3D3D3D3D20  --=3D3D3D3D20
>
>> > >> > >=
> No=20
>> > >> > >virus=3D20
>> > found in this
>> >=3D20
>> > >> > >=3D3D
>> > > outgoing =3D3D3D
>> > >> message.
>> > >> > > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.
>> > >> > > Version: 7.0.296 / Virus Database: 265.6.3 - Release =3D
>> Date:=3D3D3D20
>> > >> > 12/21/2004=3D3D3D20
>> > >> > >=3D3D3D3D20
>> > >> > > --
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>> jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx  =3D
>> =3D3D
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>> > to=3D3D3D3D20 =3D3D3D20
>> >=3D20
>> > >> > >jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe =
> in=3D3D3D20
>> > >> > the=3D3D3D3D20  subject=3D3D3D20
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>> > >> them=3D3D3D3D20  to the
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>> > >> > >list. Rather contact the list owner at=3D3D3D3D20  =3D3D3D
>> > >> jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > >> > >=3D3D3D3D20
>> > >> > --
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>> > jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D3D3D20 To=3D20
>> > >> >unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message =
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>> > >> >the=3D3D3D20=3D20 subject line.  Archives located at:
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>> > >> >jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx =3D3D3D20 =3D3D3D20
>> > >> > --
>> > >> > No virus found in this incoming message.
>> > >> > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.
>> > >> > Version: 7.0.298 / Virus Database: 265.6.5 - Release =
> Date:=3D3D20
>> > >> 12/26/2004
>> > >> >=3D3D3D20
>> > >> >=3D3D3D20
>> > >> >=3D3D3D20
>> > >> >=3D3D3D20
>> > >> >=3D3D3D20
>> > >> > --=3D3D3D20
>> > >> > No virus found in this outgoing message.
>> > >> > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.
>> > >> > Version: 7.0.298 / Virus Database: 265.6.5 - Release =
> Date:=3D3D20
>> > >> 12/26/2004
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>> > >>list. Rather contact the list owner at=3D3D20  =3D
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>
> ------------------------------
>
> From: "Chris & Mary" <cmchaffin@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: Windows Up Date settings with JFW
> Date: Thu, 30 Dec 2004 10:37:47 -0500
>
> Hi all,
> At this moment I have my windows updates set to automatically download and
> install.  I want to change this setting to either: download updates for 
> me,
> but do not install them, or, notify me when there are updates but do not
> download or install them.  Are there any pros and cons to doing one of 
> these
> settings over the other?
> Thanks for the help,
> Chris Chaffin
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "david poehlman" <david.poehlman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 10:13 AM
> Subject: Re: Windows Up Date settings with JFW
>
>
>> this is automatic updates and no matter which version of jaws you are
>> using,
>> you will find automatic updates in controll panel.  Activating this item
>> brings up a dialog providing choices for settings.
>>
>> Johnnie Apple Seed
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "AB7HW Dick Lee Chrisman" <ab7hw@xxxxxxx>
>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 11:27 PM
>> Subject: Windows Up Date settings with JFW
>>
>>
>> Hello All
>> Using JFW 5.00.844 how do I find the Windows XP up date settings?  I want
>> to
>> make sure the Windows XP up date is set to manual.
>> I look forward to your information.
>> Dick
>>
>>
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>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> From: "Horspool, Matthew F." <drjaws@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re: Bug Fixes in 
> JAWS 6
> Date: Thu, 30 Dec 2004 16:04:35 -0000
>
> I'm using a 2.53 GHz processor.  I think the other figure was from an
> old laptop.
> -------------------------
> Mr. Matthew F. Horspool
>
> Send me an Electronic Mail to
> drjaws@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
> Add
> horspool@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> to your MSN contact list
>
> Or Visit my web site at
> http://www.horspool.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk
> -------------------------
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> Behalf Of david poehlman
> Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 3:23 PM
> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re: Bug Fixes in
> JAWS 6.0
>
>
> What do you get then when you look at system in controll panel?
>
> Johnnie Apple Seed
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Horspool, Matthew F." <drjaws@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 10:13 AM
> Subject: RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re: Bug Fixes in
>
> JAWS 6.0
>
>
> Right.  I used the System Information tool and saved in plain text.
>
> -------------------------
> Mr. Matthew F. Horspool
>
> Send me an Electronic Mail to
> drjaws@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
> Add
> horspool@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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>
> Or Visit my web site at http://www.horspool.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk
> -------------------------
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> Behalf Of david poehlman
> Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 3:11 PM
> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re: Bug Fixes in
> JAWS 6.0
>
>
> matt,
>
> If you go to control panel, open system and read with the jaws cursor or
>
> ins+b, you are told in plain english what system you have.  I'm not sure
> what you are running to get the result you have below, but thought this
> might help.
>
> Johnnie Apple Seed
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Horspool, Matthew F." <drjaws@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 3:26 AM
> Subject: RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re: Bug Fixes in
>
> JAWS 6.0
>
>
> OK, I thought I got it right, but when I interrogated the system this
> line came up:
> Processor: x86 Family 15 Model 2 Stepping 7 GenuineIntel ~2532 MhZ
>
> If I interpreted this line correctly I have a 2532MhZ processor!
>
> -------------------------
> Mr. Matthew F. Horspool
>
> Send me an Electronic Mail to
> drjaws@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
> Add
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>
> Or Visit my web site at http://www.horspool.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk
> -------------------------
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> Behalf Of Chip Orange
> Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 5:13 PM
> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re: Bug Fixes in
> JAWS 6.0
>
>
> If you got that right (and it's not a typo) and your processor speed was
> only 256 mhz, then I could see why switching to a hardware synthesizer
> had such an improvement for you.  That was quite a load for your system.
>
> Chip
>
> =20
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=20  [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>>On Behalf Of Horspool, Matthew F.
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 12:05 PM
>> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re:=20  Bug
>>Fixes in JAWS 6.0 =20  Well I had 512MB RAM and about 256MHZ
>>Processors.  Running at=20  once I had a copy of WinAmp with the Audio
>>stocker and=20  SHOUTcast plugin, Microsoft Outlook, SHOUTcast DNAS
>>(GUI),=20  BVentrilo and the Ventrilo Server, and a copy of JFW.
>>This=20  slowed down the system quite a bit. =20
>> -------------------------
>> Mr. Matthew F. Horspool
>> =20
>> Send me an Electronic Mail to
>> drjaws@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> =20
>> Add
>> horspool@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> to your MSN contact list
>> =20
>> Or Visit my web site at
>> http://www.horspool.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk
>> -------------------------
>>=20
>>=20
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=20
>> [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Chip Orange
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 4:38 PM
>> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re:=20
>> Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0
>>=20
>>=20
>> Ok,  this is the first opinion which strongly prefers one to=20
>> another for other than subjective reasons, and I appreciate it.
>>=20
>> Would you say the system you were using when you made the=20
>> switch was unusually slow, short of ram, or overloaded with=20
>> processing tasks?
>>=20
>> Thanks.
>>=20
>> Chip
>>=20
>> =3D20
>>=20
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D20 =20
>> [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]=20
>> >On Behalf Of Horspool, Matthew F.
>> > Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 11:30 AM
>> > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > Subject: RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re:=3D20  =
> Bug=20
>> >Fixes in JAWS 6.0 =3D20  Used DECtalk ACCESS32 for about a=20
>> year and then=20
>> >switched to a=3D20  DECtalk USB for to get better broadcast=20
>> clarity.  I=20
>> >certainly=3D20  have noticed a huge difference in responsiveness:  =
> The=20
>> >DEC=3D20  USB is faster - a lot faster!
>> >=3D20
>> > -------------------------
>> > Mr. Matthew F. Horspool
>> > =3D20
>> > Send me an Electronic Mail to
>> > drjaws@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > =3D20
>> > Add
>> > horspool@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > to your MSN contact list
>> > =3D20
>> > Or Visit my web site at  http://www.horspool.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk
>> > -------------------------
>> >=3D20
>> >=3D20
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D20
>> >[mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of John Miller
>> > Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 4:20 PM
>> > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > Subject: Re: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re:=3D20  =
> Bug=20
>> >Fixes in JAWS 6.0 =3D20 =3D20  I don't notice it if so.
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: "Chip Orange" <Corange@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 10:47 AM
>> > Subject: RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re:=3D20  =
> Bug=20
>> >Fixes in =3D20  JAWS 6.0 =3D20 =3D20
>> > > Yes; and they do use some processor time.  The question is that=20
>
>> > > on=3D20 todays systems, which usually have plenty of =
> processor=3D20
>> > speed and RAM,=3D20
>> > > does that really make any difference?
>> > >
>> > > Now, I know that it does from reports on AT&T Natural
>> > > Voices=3D20=20 specifically, but I was wondering about Eloquence.
>> > >
>> > > Thanks.
>> > >
>> > > Chip
>> > >
>> > > =3D3D20
>> > >
>> > >> -----Original Message-----
>> > >> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D3D20 =3D20
>> > [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]=3D20
>> > >>On Behalf Of Flor Lynch
>> > >> Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2004 9:00 PM
>> > >> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > >> Subject: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re:=3D20
>> > Bug=3D3D20  Fixes
>> >=3D20
>> > >>in JAWS 6.0 =3D3D20
>> > >> Software synths take up more RAM than hardware ones do.
>> > >> ----- Original Message -----
>> > >> From: "Chip Orange" <Corange@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > >> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > >> Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2004 2:22 PM
>> > >> Subject: RE: Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0
>> > >>=3D3D20
>> > >>=3D3D20
>> > >> Well, no argument with your first point, it is more=3D20
>> > difficult to have =3D20
>> > >>all of the sound coming out of one source; but, when you=3D20
>> > need to use =3D20
>> > >>headphones so as not to disturb someone else, it's also =
> more=3D3D20=20
>> > >>=3D20 convenient. =3D3D20  As for your second, that just=20
>> seems to come=20
>> > >>down to personal=3D3D20
>> =3D20
>> > >>preference  as it doesn't bother me a bit.
>> > >>=3D3D20
>> > >> There is one which you didn't mention, but which I've=3D20
>> > always wondered =3D20
>> > >>about, and that's how much of a load does Eloquence place=3D20
>> > on=3D3D20  your=3D20
>> > >>system  by having the software synth as compared to sending=3D20
>> > the text=3D20
>> > >>to be  spoken out of the serial port?  Anyone have any facts=20
>> > >>along=3D20 this
>> > line?
>> > >>=3D3D20
>> > >> Thanks.
>> > >>=3D3D20
>> > >> Chip
>> > >>=3D3D20
>> > >> =3D3D3D20
>> > >>=3D3D20
>> > >> > -----Original Message-----
>> > >> > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D3D3D20=3D20
>> > >> >[mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Kerri
>> > >> > Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2004 2:04 AM
>> > >> > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > >> > Subject: Re: Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0 =3D3D3D20  Hello  Chip. I=20
>
>> > >> >despise software synthesizers mainly=3D20
>> > because=3D3D3D20 if=3D20
>> > >> >you are required to listen to other media, I find it=20
>> to=3D3D3D20=3D20=20
>> > >> >difficult to with a software synthesizer coming through=20
>> the=3D3D3D20
>>=20
>> > >> >=3D
>>=20
>> > >> >same speakers. I also dislike elloquence's voice, *all of them*
>> > >> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > >> > From: "Chip Orange" <Corange@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > >> > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > >> > Sent: Monday, December 27, 2004 12:02 PM
>> > >> > Subject: RE: Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0 =3D3D3D20 =3D3D3D20  I'm=20
>> > >> >interested in hearing why, as I use a DT express at=3D20
>> > work,=3D3D3D20
>> >=3D20
>> > >> >and eloquence at home, and really haven't felt there's=20
>> much=3D3D3D20
>>=20
>> > >> >=3D
>>=20
>> > >> >difference.  Perhaps there's just something I'm=20
>> missing? =3D3D3D20 =20
>> > >> >Thanks.
>> > >> >=3D3D3D20
>> > >> > Chip
>> > >> >=3D3D3D20
>> > >> > =3D3D3D3D20
>> > >> >=3D3D3D20
>> > >> > > -----Original Message-----
>> > >> > > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D3D3D3D20=3D20
>> > >> > >[mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Kerri
>> > >> > > Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2004 12:17 AM
>> > >> > > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > >> > > Subject: Re: Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0 =3D3D3D3D20  Chris, I=3D20
>> > vehemently=3D20
>> > >> > >despise software synthesizers hence=3D3D3D20
>> > >> > my=3D3D3D3D20  dectalk=3D3D3D20
>> > >> > >use and this is the only version that has been =3D
>> rather=3D3D3D3D20=3D3D20
>> > >>  sluggish.
>> > >> > > ----- Original Message -----
>> > >> > > From: "Chris Skarstad" <toonhead5@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > >> > > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > >> > > Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2004 4:15 PM
>> > >> > > Subject: Re: Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0 =3D3D3D3D20 =3D3D3D3D20 =
> =3D20
>> > man I guess=3D20
>> > >> > >I'm very lucky then. This version actually runs =3D3D
>> > > a=3D3D3D3D20
>> > >> =3D3D3D20
>> > >> > >little faster on my system than 5.10 did. Then again=3D3D20
>> > >> I'm=3D3D3D3D20  using
>> > >> =3D3D3D
>> > >> a=3D3D3D20
>> > >> > >hardware synthesizer which is probably the=20
>> reason.=3D3D3D3D20  =3D3D
>> > > Never=3D3D3D20
>> > >> > did like=3D3D3D20
>> > >> > >software speech and never will based on what=3D3D3D3D20=20
>>  I've=3D3D20
>> > >> seen.  By the
>> > >> =3D3D3D
>> > >>=3D3D20
>> > >> > >way, the murge feature is there. go to=3D3D3D3D20  your=20
>> jaws=3D3D20
>> > >> window with =3D3D3D
>> > >> alt=3D3D3D20
>> > >> > >plus j, press alt u for utilities,=3D3D3D3D20  and it's =
> in=3D3D20
>> > >> there. or simply
>> > >> =3D3D3D
>> > >>=3D3D20
>> > >> > >bring up the context menu if=3D3D3D3D20  you're running=20
>> jaws in =3D
>> =3D3D
>> > > the=3D3D3D20
>> > >> > system tray=3D3D3D20
>> > >> > >and go to utilities=3D3D3D3D20  and the murge utility=20
>> is there.=3D20
>>=20
>> > >> > >=3D3D3D3D20  At 04:29 PM 12/21/2004, you wrote:
>> > >> > > >Hay, you mean, they haven't fixed any right? I'm=3D20
>> > sorry, I=3D3D3D3D20
>> > >> > > just couldn't=3D3D3D3D20
>> > >> > > >resist. In truth, this has been the worst version =
> I've=3D3D20
>> > >> had the=3D3D3D3D20
>> > >> =3D3D3D
>> > >>=3D3D20
>> > >> > > >misfortune to deal with in a long while. It runs=3D3D20
>> > >> terribley slow,=3D3D3D20
>> > >> > > >I'm=3D3D3D3D20 getting false attachments, no merge=20
>> feature=3D3D20
>> > >> anywhere. I=3D3D3D20
>> > >> > > >love=3D3D3D3D20
>> > >> > > spending=3D3D3D3D20
>> > >> > > >money on this "improved" product. Sorry, I'm being a grinch.
>> > >> > > >----- Original Message -----
>> > >> > > >From: "RJ" <rjf1@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > >> > > >To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > >> > > >Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2004 2:16 PM
>> > >> > > >Subject: Re: Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0
>> > >> > > >
>> > >> > > >
>> > >> > > >You are looking right, there just isn't any bugs.=3D20
>> > Smiling here.
>> > >> > > >----- Original Message -----
>> > >> > > >From: "Margaret Thomas" <iluvtoread@xxxxxxx>
>> > >> > > >To: "jfw" <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > >> > > >Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2004 4:15 PM
>> > >> > > >Subject: Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0
>> > >> > > >
>> > >> > > >
>> > >> > > > > Good Afternoon,
>> > >> > > > >
>> > >> > > > >     I had a migraine when JAWS 6.0 was released =
> and=3D3D20
>> > >> am trying=3D3D3D20
>> > >> > > > > to=3D3D3D3D20 catch up with list mail before=3D20
>> > installing the new =3D3D
>> > > =3D3D3D
>> > >> release.
>> > >> > > > >
>> > >> > > > >     I've looked over the What's New section for
>> > >> > > > > 6.0=3D20=20 and=3D3D3D3D20
>> > >> > > could swear=3D3D3D3D20
>> > >> > > > > that there used to be a section on bug fixes, but I'm =
> =3D3D
>> > > not=3D3D3D3D20
>> > >> > > finding it=3D3D3D3D20
>> > >> > > > > for this version.  Am I having another senior moment, =
> =3D3D
>> > > or=3D3D3D3D20
>> > >> > > did FS not=3D3D3D3D20
>> > >> > > > > do it this time, or am I looking in the wrong=3D20
>> > place on=3D3D3D3D20
>> > >> > > the FS site? =3D3D3D3D20
>> > >> > > > > I've been looking at:
>> > >> > > > >
>> > >> > > > >
>> > >> > >=20
>> >http://www.freedomscientific.com/fs_products/software_jaws60f
>> > >> > > ea.asp#JAW
>> > >> > > >S_Features
>> > >> > > > >
>> > >> > > > >     Thanks,
>> > >> > > > > Margaret
>> > >> > > > > iluvtoread@xxxxxxx
>> > >> > > > >
>> > >> > > > > --
>> > >> > > > > To post a message to the list, send it to=3D3D3D20
>> > >> > jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To=3D3D3D3D20=3D3D3D20
>> > >> > > > > unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to
>> > >> > > >jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe
>> > >> > > >in=3D20=20 the=3D3D3D3D20
>> > >> > > subject line.
>> > >> > > > > Archives located at:=20
>> //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
>> > >> > > > >
>> > >> > > > > If you have any concerns about the list, post =3D
>> received=3D3D3D20
>> > >> > from the=3D3D3D3D20=3D3D3D20
>> > >> > > > > list, or
>> > >> > > >the way the list is being run, do not post them to
>> > >> > > >the=3D20=20 list.=3D3D3D20 Rather=3D3D3D3D20 contact the
>> > >> > > >list owner =
> at=3D20=20
>> > >> > > >jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > >> > > > >
>> > >> > > >
>> > >> > > >--
>> > >> > > >To post a message to the list, send it to=3D3D20
>> > >> jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To=3D3D3D3D20
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>> > >> > > the list,=3D3D3D3D20
>> > >> > > >or the way the list is being run, do not post them to=3D20
>> > the=3D3D3D3D20
>> > >> > > list. Rather=3D3D3D3D20
>> > >> > > >contact the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > >> > > >
>> > >> > > >
>> > >> > > >--
>> > >> > > >No virus found in this incoming message.
>> > >> > > >Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.
>> > >> > > >Version: 7.0.296 / Virus Database: 265.6.3 - Release=3D20
>> > Date:=3D3D3D20
>> > >> > 12/21/2004
>> > >> > > >
>> > >> > > >
>> > >> > > >
>> > >> > > >
>> > >> > > >--
>> > >> > > >No virus found in this outgoing message.
>> > >> > > >Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.
>> > >> > > >Version: 7.0.296 / Virus Database: 265.6.3 - Release=3D20
>> > Date:=3D3D3D20
>> > >> > 12/21/2004
>> > >> > > >
>> > >> > > >--
>> > >> > > >To post a message to the list, send it to=3D3D20
>> > >> jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To=3D3D3D3D20
>> > >> =3D3D3D
>> > >>=3D3D20
>> > >> > > >unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message=3D20=20
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>> the word=3D20=20
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>> > >> > > subject line.
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>> > >> > > >
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>> > > from=3D3D3D3D20
>> > >> > > the list,=3D3D3D3D20
>> > >> > > >or the way the list is being run, do not post them to=3D20
>> > the=3D3D3D3D20
>> > >> > > list. Rather=3D3D3D3D20
>> > >> > > >contact the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > >> > >=3D3D3D3D20
>> > >> > > --
>> > >> > > To post a message to the list, send it to=3D3D20
>> > >> jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D3D3D3D20  To
>> > >> =3D3D3D
>> > >>=3D3D20
>> > >> > >unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message=3D20
>> > to=3D3D3D3D20 =3D3D3D20
>> >=3D20
>> > >> > >jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe =
> in=3D3D3D20
>> > >> > the=3D3D3D3D20  subject=3D3D3D20
>> > >> > >line.
>> > >> > > Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
>> > >> > >=3D3D3D3D20
>> > >> > > If you have any concerns about the list, post received=3D3D20
>> > >> from=3D3D3D3D20  =3D3D3D
>> > >> the=3D3D3D20
>> > >> > >list, or the way the list is being run, do not post=3D3D20
>> > >> them=3D3D3D3D20  to the
>> > >> =3D3D3D
>> > >>=3D3D20
>> > >> > >list. Rather contact the list owner at=3D3D3D3D20  =3D3D3D
>> > >> jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > >> > >=3D3D3D3D20
>> > >> > >=3D3D3D3D20
>> > >> > > --
>> > >> > > No virus found in this incoming message.
>> > >> > > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.
>> > >> > > Version: 7.0.296 / Virus Database: 265.6.3 - Release =3D
>> Date:=3D3D3D20
>> > >> > 12/21/2004=3D3D3D20
>> > >> > >=3D3D3D3D20 =3D3D3D3D20 =3D3D3D3D20 =3D3D3D3D20  --=3D3D3D3D20
>
>> > >> > >=
> No=20
>> > >> > >virus=3D20
>> > found in this
>> >=3D20
>> > >> > >=3D3D
>> > > outgoing =3D3D3D
>> > >> message.
>> > >> > > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.
>> > >> > > Version: 7.0.296 / Virus Database: 265.6.3 - Release =3D
>> Date:=3D3D3D20
>> > >> > 12/21/2004=3D3D3D20
>> > >> > >=3D3D3D3D20
>> > >> > > --
>> > >> > > To post a message to the list, send it to=20
>> jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx  =3D
>> =3D3D
>> > > To=3D3D3D20
>> > >> > >unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message=3D20
>> > to=3D3D3D3D20 =3D3D3D20
>> >=3D20
>> > >> > >jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe =
> in=3D3D3D20
>> > >> > the=3D3D3D3D20  subject=3D3D3D20
>> > >> > >line.
>> > >> > > Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
>> > >> > >=3D3D3D3D20
>> > >> > > If you have any concerns about the list, post received=3D3D20
>> > >> from=3D3D3D3D20  =3D3D3D
>> > >> the=3D3D3D20
>> > >> > >list, or the way the list is being run, do not post=3D3D20
>> > >> them=3D3D3D3D20  to the
>> > >> =3D3D3D
>> > >>=3D3D20
>> > >> > >list. Rather contact the list owner at=3D3D3D3D20  =3D3D3D
>> > >> jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > >> > >=3D3D3D3D20
>> > >> > --
>> > >> > To post a message to the list, send it to=3D20
>> > jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D3D3D20 To=3D20
>> > >> >unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message =
> to=3D3D3D20=3D20=20
>> > >> >jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in=20
>> > >> >the=3D3D3D20=3D20 subject line.  Archives located at:
>> > >> >//www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
>> > >> >=3D3D3D20
>> > >> > If you have any concerns about the list, post received =3D
>> from=3D3D3D20=3D20
>> > >> >the list, or the way the list is being run, do not post=3D20
>> > them=3D3D3D20 to=3D20
>> > >> >the list. Rather contact the list owner at=3D3D3D20=3D20=20
>> > >> >jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx =3D3D3D20 =3D3D3D20
>> > >> > --
>> > >> > No virus found in this incoming message.
>> > >> > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.
>> > >> > Version: 7.0.298 / Virus Database: 265.6.5 - Release =
> Date:=3D3D20
>> > >> 12/26/2004
>> > >> >=3D3D3D20
>> > >> >=3D3D3D20
>> > >> >=3D3D3D20
>> > >> >=3D3D3D20
>> > >> >=3D3D3D20
>> > >> > --=3D3D3D20
>> > >> > No virus found in this outgoing message.
>> > >> > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.
>> > >> > Version: 7.0.298 / Virus Database: 265.6.5 - Release =
> Date:=3D3D20
>> > >> 12/26/2004
>> > >> >=3D3D3D20
>> > >> > --
>> > >> > To post a message to the list, send it to=20
>> jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To=3D20=20
>> > >> >unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message =
> to=3D3D3D20=3D20=20
>> > >> >jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in=20
>> > >> >the=3D3D3D20=3D20 subject line.  Archives located at:
>> > >> >//www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
>> > >> >=3D3D3D20
>> > >> > If you have any concerns about the list, post received =3D
>> from=3D3D3D20=3D20
>> > >> >the list, or the way the list is being run, do not post=3D20
>> > them=3D3D3D20 to=3D20
>> > >> >the list. Rather contact the list owner at=3D3D3D20=3D20=20
>> > >> >jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx =3D3D3D20
>> > >> --
>> > >> To post a message to the list, send it to=20
>> jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx  To=3D20=20
>> > >>unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to=3D20=20
>> > >>jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in=3D20
>> > the=3D3D20  subject
>> >=3D20
>> > >>line.  Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
>> > >>=3D3D20
>> > >> If you have any concerns about the list, post received=3D20
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>
> From: "david poehlman" <david.poehlman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: Windows Up Date settings with JFW
> Date: Thu, 30 Dec 2004 11:05:15 -0500
>
> from a jaws standpoint, it matters not.  I recommend turning them off to
> save ram though.
>
> Johnnie Apple Seed
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Chris & Mary" <cmchaffin@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 10:37 AM
> Subject: Re: Windows Up Date settings with JFW
>
>
> Hi all,
> At this moment I have my windows updates set to automatically download and
> install.  I want to change this setting to either: download updates for 
> me,
> but do not install them, or, notify me when there are updates but do not
> download or install them.  Are there any pros and cons to doing one of 
> these
> settings over the other?
> Thanks for the help,
> Chris Chaffin
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "david poehlman" <david.poehlman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 10:13 AM
> Subject: Re: Windows Up Date settings with JFW
>
>
>> this is automatic updates and no matter which version of jaws you are
>> using,
>> you will find automatic updates in controll panel.  Activating this item
>> brings up a dialog providing choices for settings.
>>
>> Johnnie Apple Seed
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "AB7HW Dick Lee Chrisman" <ab7hw@xxxxxxx>
>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 11:27 PM
>> Subject: Windows Up Date settings with JFW
>>
>>
>> Hello All
>> Using JFW 5.00.844 how do I find the Windows XP up date settings?  I want
>> to
>> make sure the Windows XP up date is set to manual.
>> I look forward to your information.
>> Dick
>>
>>
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>
> From: "Walter Siren" <wsiren@xxxxxxx>
> Subject: Oe hotkey won't work in jaws 6.
> Date: Thu, 30 Dec 2004 10:19:14 -0600
>
> I recently found a hotkey for OE.  This key is alt+grave, this hotkey 
> allows one to skip from the to field in  a message
> to the message body.  With jaws 6 however, it doesn't work.  Has anybody 
> else ran across this.
> Walter Siren
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Horspool, Matthew F." <drjaws@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 10:04 AM
> Subject: RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re: Bug Fixes in 
> JAWS 6.0
>
>
>> I'm using a 2.53 GHz processor.  I think the other figure was from an
>> old laptop.
>> -------------------------
>> Mr. Matthew F. Horspool
>>
>> Send me an Electronic Mail to
>> drjaws@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>
>> Add
>> horspool@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> to your MSN contact list
>>
>> Or Visit my web site at
>> http://www.horspool.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk
>> -------------------------
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
>> Behalf Of david poehlman
>> Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 3:23 PM
>> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: Re: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re: Bug Fixes in
>> JAWS 6.0
>>
>>
>> What do you get then when you look at system in controll panel?
>>
>> Johnnie Apple Seed
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Horspool, Matthew F." <drjaws@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 10:13 AM
>> Subject: RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re: Bug Fixes in
>>
>> JAWS 6.0
>>
>>
>> Right.  I used the System Information tool and saved in plain text.
>>
>> -------------------------
>> Mr. Matthew F. Horspool
>>
>> Send me an Electronic Mail to
>> drjaws@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>
>> Add
>> horspool@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> to your MSN contact list
>>
>> Or Visit my web site at http://www.horspool.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk
>> -------------------------
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
>> Behalf Of david poehlman
>> Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 3:11 PM
>> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: Re: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re: Bug Fixes in
>> JAWS 6.0
>>
>>
>> matt,
>>
>> If you go to control panel, open system and read with the jaws cursor or
>>
>> ins+b, you are told in plain english what system you have.  I'm not sure
>> what you are running to get the result you have below, but thought this
>> might help.
>>
>> Johnnie Apple Seed
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Horspool, Matthew F." <drjaws@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 3:26 AM
>> Subject: RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re: Bug Fixes in
>>
>> JAWS 6.0
>>
>>
>> OK, I thought I got it right, but when I interrogated the system this
>> line came up:
>> Processor: x86 Family 15 Model 2 Stepping 7 GenuineIntel ~2532 MhZ
>>
>> If I interpreted this line correctly I have a 2532MhZ processor!
>>
>> -------------------------
>> Mr. Matthew F. Horspool
>>
>> Send me an Electronic Mail to
>> drjaws@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>
>> Add
>> horspool@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> to your MSN contact list
>>
>> Or Visit my web site at http://www.horspool.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk
>> -------------------------
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
>> Behalf Of Chip Orange
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 5:13 PM
>> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re: Bug Fixes in
>> JAWS 6.0
>>
>>
>> If you got that right (and it's not a typo) and your processor speed was
>> only 256 mhz, then I could see why switching to a hardware synthesizer
>> had such an improvement for you.  That was quite a load for your system.
>>
>> Chip
>>
>> =20
>>
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=20  [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>> >On Behalf Of Horspool, Matthew F.
>> > Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 12:05 PM
>> > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > Subject: RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re:=20  Bug
>> >Fixes in JAWS 6.0 =20  Well I had 512MB RAM and about 256MHZ
>> >Processors.  Running at=20  once I had a copy of WinAmp with the Audio
>> >stocker and=20  SHOUTcast plugin, Microsoft Outlook, SHOUTcast DNAS
>> >(GUI),=20  BVentrilo and the Ventrilo Server, and a copy of JFW.
>> >This=20  slowed down the system quite a bit. =20
>> > -------------------------
>> > Mr. Matthew F. Horspool
>> > =20
>> > Send me an Electronic Mail to
>> > drjaws@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > =20
>> > Add
>> > horspool@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > to your MSN contact list
>> > =20
>> > Or Visit my web site at
>> > http://www.horspool.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk
>> > -------------------------
>> >=20
>> >=20
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=20
>> > [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Chip Orange
>> > Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 4:38 PM
>> > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > Subject: RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re:=20
>> > Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0
>> >=20
>> >=20
>> > Ok,  this is the first opinion which strongly prefers one to=20
>> > another for other than subjective reasons, and I appreciate it.
>> >=20
>> > Would you say the system you were using when you made the=20
>> > switch was unusually slow, short of ram, or overloaded with=20
>> > processing tasks?
>> >=20
>> > Thanks.
>> >=20
>> > Chip
>> >=20
>> > =3D20
>> >=20
>> > > -----Original Message-----
>> > > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D20 =20
>> > [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]=20
>> > >On Behalf Of Horspool, Matthew F.
>> > > Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 11:30 AM
>> > > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > > Subject: RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re:=3D20  =
>> Bug=20
>> > >Fixes in JAWS 6.0 =3D20  Used DECtalk ACCESS32 for about a=20
>> > year and then=20
>> > >switched to a=3D20  DECtalk USB for to get better broadcast=20
>> > clarity.  I=20
>> > >certainly=3D20  have noticed a huge difference in responsiveness:  =
>> The=20
>> > >DEC=3D20  USB is faster - a lot faster!
>> > >=3D20
>> > > -------------------------
>> > > Mr. Matthew F. Horspool
>> > > =3D20
>> > > Send me an Electronic Mail to
>> > > drjaws@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > > =3D20
>> > > Add
>> > > horspool@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > > to your MSN contact list
>> > > =3D20
>> > > Or Visit my web site at  http://www.horspool.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk
>> > > -------------------------
>> > >=3D20
>> > >=3D20
>> > > -----Original Message-----
>> > > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D20
>> > >[mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of John Miller
>> > > Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 4:20 PM
>> > > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > > Subject: Re: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re:=3D20  =
>> Bug=20
>> > >Fixes in JAWS 6.0 =3D20 =3D20  I don't notice it if so.
>> > > ----- Original Message -----
>> > > From: "Chip Orange" <Corange@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > > Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 10:47 AM
>> > > Subject: RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re:=3D20  =
>> Bug=20
>> > >Fixes in =3D20  JAWS 6.0 =3D20 =3D20
>> > > > Yes; and they do use some processor time.  The question is that=20
>>
>> > > > on=3D20 todays systems, which usually have plenty of =
>> processor=3D20
>> > > speed and RAM,=3D20
>> > > > does that really make any difference?
>> > > >
>> > > > Now, I know that it does from reports on AT&T Natural
>> > > > Voices=3D20=20 specifically, but I was wondering about Eloquence.
>> > > >
>> > > > Thanks.
>> > > >
>> > > > Chip
>> > > >
>> > > > =3D3D20
>> > > >
>> > > >> -----Original Message-----
>> > > >> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D3D20 =3D20
>> > > [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]=3D20
>> > > >>On Behalf Of Flor Lynch
>> > > >> Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2004 9:00 PM
>> > > >> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > > >> Subject: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re:=3D20
>> > > Bug=3D3D20  Fixes
>> > >=3D20
>> > > >>in JAWS 6.0 =3D3D20
>> > > >> Software synths take up more RAM than hardware ones do.
>> > > >> ----- Original Message -----
>> > > >> From: "Chip Orange" <Corange@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > > >> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > > >> Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2004 2:22 PM
>> > > >> Subject: RE: Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0
>> > > >>=3D3D20
>> > > >>=3D3D20
>> > > >> Well, no argument with your first point, it is more=3D20
>> > > difficult to have =3D20
>> > > >>all of the sound coming out of one source; but, when you=3D20
>> > > need to use =3D20
>> > > >>headphones so as not to disturb someone else, it's also =
>> more=3D3D20=20
>> > > >>=3D20 convenient. =3D3D20  As for your second, that just=20
>> > seems to come=20
>> > > >>down to personal=3D3D20
>> > =3D20
>> > > >>preference  as it doesn't bother me a bit.
>> > > >>=3D3D20
>> > > >> There is one which you didn't mention, but which I've=3D20
>> > > always wondered =3D20
>> > > >>about, and that's how much of a load does Eloquence place=3D20
>> > > on=3D3D20  your=3D20
>> > > >>system  by having the software synth as compared to sending=3D20
>> > > the text=3D20
>> > > >>to be  spoken out of the serial port?  Anyone have any facts=20
>> > > >>along=3D20 this
>> > > line?
>> > > >>=3D3D20
>> > > >> Thanks.
>> > > >>=3D3D20
>> > > >> Chip
>> > > >>=3D3D20
>> > > >> =3D3D3D20
>> > > >>=3D3D20
>> > > >> > -----Original Message-----
>> > > >> > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D3D3D20=3D20
>> > > >> >[mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Kerri
>> > > >> > Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2004 2:04 AM
>> > > >> > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > > >> > Subject: Re: Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0 =3D3D3D20  Hello  Chip. I=20
>>
>> > > >> >despise software synthesizers mainly=3D20
>> > > because=3D3D3D20 if=3D20
>> > > >> >you are required to listen to other media, I find it=20
>> > to=3D3D3D20=3D20=20
>> > > >> >difficult to with a software synthesizer coming through=20
>> > the=3D3D3D20
>> >=20
>> > > >> >=3D
>> >=20
>> > > >> >same speakers. I also dislike elloquence's voice, *all of them*
>> > > >> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > > >> > From: "Chip Orange" <Corange@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > > >> > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > > >> > Sent: Monday, December 27, 2004 12:02 PM
>> > > >> > Subject: RE: Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0 =3D3D3D20 =3D3D3D20  I'm=20
>> > > >> >interested in hearing why, as I use a DT express at=3D20
>> > > work,=3D3D3D20
>> > >=3D20
>> > > >> >and eloquence at home, and really haven't felt there's=20
>> > much=3D3D3D20
>> >=20
>> > > >> >=3D
>> >=20
>> > > >> >difference.  Perhaps there's just something I'm=20
>> > missing? =3D3D3D20 =20
>> > > >> >Thanks.
>> > > >> >=3D3D3D20
>> > > >> > Chip
>> > > >> >=3D3D3D20
>> > > >> > =3D3D3D3D20
>> > > >> >=3D3D3D20
>> > > >> > > -----Original Message-----
>> > > >> > > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D3D3D3D20=3D20
>> > > >> > >[mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Kerri
>> > > >> > > Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2004 12:17 AM
>> > > >> > > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > > >> > > Subject: Re: Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0 =3D3D3D3D20  Chris, I=3D20
>> > > vehemently=3D20
>> > > >> > >despise software synthesizers hence=3D3D3D20
>> > > >> > my=3D3D3D3D20  dectalk=3D3D3D20
>> > > >> > >use and this is the only version that has been =3D
>> > rather=3D3D3D3D20=3D3D20
>> > > >>  sluggish.
>> > > >> > > ----- Original Message -----
>> > > >> > > From: "Chris Skarstad" <toonhead5@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > > >> > > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > > >> > > Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2004 4:15 PM
>> > > >> > > Subject: Re: Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0 =3D3D3D3D20 =3D3D3D3D20 =
>> =3D20
>> > > man I guess=3D20
>> > > >> > >I'm very lucky then. This version actually runs =3D3D
>> > > > a=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > >> =3D3D3D20
>> > > >> > >little faster on my system than 5.10 did. Then again=3D3D20
>> > > >> I'm=3D3D3D3D20  using
>> > > >> =3D3D3D
>> > > >> a=3D3D3D20
>> > > >> > >hardware synthesizer which is probably the=20
>> > reason.=3D3D3D3D20  =3D3D
>> > > > Never=3D3D3D20
>> > > >> > did like=3D3D3D20
>> > > >> > >software speech and never will based on what=3D3D3D3D20=20
>> >  I've=3D3D20
>> > > >> seen.  By the
>> > > >> =3D3D3D
>> > > >>=3D3D20
>> > > >> > >way, the murge feature is there. go to=3D3D3D3D20  your=20
>> > jaws=3D3D20
>> > > >> window with =3D3D3D
>> > > >> alt=3D3D3D20
>> > > >> > >plus j, press alt u for utilities,=3D3D3D3D20  and it's =
>> in=3D3D20
>> > > >> there. or simply
>> > > >> =3D3D3D
>> > > >>=3D3D20
>> > > >> > >bring up the context menu if=3D3D3D3D20  you're running=20
>> > jaws in =3D
>> > =3D3D
>> > > > the=3D3D3D20
>> > > >> > system tray=3D3D3D20
>> > > >> > >and go to utilities=3D3D3D3D20  and the murge utility=20
>> > is there.=3D20
>> >=20
>> > > >> > >=3D3D3D3D20  At 04:29 PM 12/21/2004, you wrote:
>> > > >> > > >Hay, you mean, they haven't fixed any right? I'm=3D20
>> > > sorry, I=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > >> > > just couldn't=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > >> > > >resist. In truth, this has been the worst version =
>> I've=3D3D20
>> > > >> had the=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > >> =3D3D3D
>> > > >>=3D3D20
>> > > >> > > >misfortune to deal with in a long while. It runs=3D3D20
>> > > >> terribley slow,=3D3D3D20
>> > > >> > > >I'm=3D3D3D3D20 getting false attachments, no merge=20
>> > feature=3D3D20
>> > > >> anywhere. I=3D3D3D20
>> > > >> > > >love=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > >> > > spending=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > >> > > >money on this "improved" product. Sorry, I'm being a grinch.
>> > > >> > > >----- Original Message -----
>> > > >> > > >From: "RJ" <rjf1@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > > >> > > >To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > > >> > > >Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2004 2:16 PM
>> > > >> > > >Subject: Re: Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0
>> > > >> > > >
>> > > >> > > >
>> > > >> > > >You are looking right, there just isn't any bugs.=3D20
>> > > Smiling here.
>> > > >> > > >----- Original Message -----
>> > > >> > > >From: "Margaret Thomas" <iluvtoread@xxxxxxx>
>> > > >> > > >To: "jfw" <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > > >> > > >Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2004 4:15 PM
>> > > >> > > >Subject: Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0
>> > > >> > > >
>> > > >> > > >
>> > > >> > > > > Good Afternoon,
>> > > >> > > > >
>> > > >> > > > >     I had a migraine when JAWS 6.0 was released =
>> and=3D3D20
>> > > >> am trying=3D3D3D20
>> > > >> > > > > to=3D3D3D3D20 catch up with list mail before=3D20
>> > > installing the new =3D3D
>> > > > =3D3D3D
>> > > >> release.
>> > > >> > > > >
>> > > >> > > > >     I've looked over the What's New section for
>> > > >> > > > > 6.0=3D20=20 and=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > >> > > could swear=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > >> > > > > that there used to be a section on bug fixes, but I'm =
>> =3D3D
>> > > > not=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > >> > > finding it=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > >> > > > > for this version.  Am I having another senior moment, =
>> =3D3D
>> > > > or=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > >> > > did FS not=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > >> > > > > do it this time, or am I looking in the wrong=3D20
>> > > place on=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > >> > > the FS site? =3D3D3D3D20
>> > > >> > > > > I've been looking at:
>> > > >> > > > >
>> > > >> > > > >
>> > > >> > >=20
>> > >http://www.freedomscientific.com/fs_products/software_jaws60f
>> > > >> > > ea.asp#JAW
>> > > >> > > >S_Features
>> > > >> > > > >
>> > > >> > > > >     Thanks,
>> > > >> > > > > Margaret
>> > > >> > > > > iluvtoread@xxxxxxx
>> > > >> > > > >
>> > > >> > > > > --
>> > > >> > > > > To post a message to the list, send it to=3D3D3D20
>> > > >> > jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To=3D3D3D3D20=3D3D3D20
>> > > >> > > > > unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to
>> > > >> > > >jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe
>> > > >> > > >in=3D20=20 the=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > >> > > subject line.
>> > > >> > > > > Archives located at:=20
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>> > received=3D3D3D20
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>> > > >> > > >list owner =
>> at=3D20=20
>> > > >> > > >jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > > >> > > > >
>> > > >> > > >
>> > > >> > > >--
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>> > > >> jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > >> =3D3D3D
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>> > > > from=3D3D3D3D20
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>> > > >> > > >or the way the list is being run, do not post them to=3D20
>> > > the=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > >> > > list. Rather=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > >> > > >contact the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > > >> > > >
>> > > >> > > >
>> > > >> > > >--
>> > > >> > > >No virus found in this incoming message.
>> > > >> > > >Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.
>> > > >> > > >Version: 7.0.296 / Virus Database: 265.6.3 - Release=3D20
>> > > Date:=3D3D3D20
>> > > >> > 12/21/2004
>> > > >> > > >
>> > > >> > > >
>> > > >> > > >
>> > > >> > > >
>> > > >> > > >--
>> > > >> > > >No virus found in this outgoing message.
>> > > >> > > >Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.
>> > > >> > > >Version: 7.0.296 / Virus Database: 265.6.3 - Release=3D20
>> > > Date:=3D3D3D20
>> > > >> > 12/21/2004
>> > > >> > > >
>> > > >> > > >--
>> > > >> > > >To post a message to the list, send it to=3D3D20
>> > > >> jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > >> =3D3D3D
>> > > >>=3D3D20
>> > > >> > > >unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message=3D20=20
>> > > >> > > >to=3D3D3D3D20=3D3D3D20 jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with=20
>> > the word=3D20=20
>> > > >> > > >unsubscribe in the=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > >> > > subject line.
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>> > > >> > > >
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>> > > > from=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > >> > > the list,=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > >> > > >or the way the list is being run, do not post them to=3D20
>> > > the=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > >> > > list. Rather=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > >> > > >contact the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > > >> > >=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > >> > > --
>> > > >> > > To post a message to the list, send it to=3D3D20
>> > > >> jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D3D3D3D20  To
>> > > >> =3D3D3D
>> > > >>=3D3D20
>> > > >> > >unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message=3D20
>> > > to=3D3D3D3D20 =3D3D3D20
>> > >=3D20
>> > > >> > >jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe =
>> in=3D3D3D20
>> > > >> > the=3D3D3D3D20  subject=3D3D3D20
>> > > >> > >line.
>> > > >> > > Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
>> > > >> > >=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > >> > > If you have any concerns about the list, post received=3D3D20
>> > > >> from=3D3D3D3D20  =3D3D3D
>> > > >> the=3D3D3D20
>> > > >> > >list, or the way the list is being run, do not post=3D3D20
>> > > >> them=3D3D3D3D20  to the
>> > > >> =3D3D3D
>> > > >>=3D3D20
>> > > >> > >list. Rather contact the list owner at=3D3D3D3D20  =3D3D3D
>> > > >> jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > > >> > >=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > >> > >=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > >> > > --
>> > > >> > > No virus found in this incoming message.
>> > > >> > > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.
>> > > >> > > Version: 7.0.296 / Virus Database: 265.6.3 - Release =3D
>> > Date:=3D3D3D20
>> > > >> > 12/21/2004=3D3D3D20
>> > > >> > >=3D3D3D3D20 =3D3D3D3D20 =3D3D3D3D20 =3D3D3D3D20  --=3D3D3D3D20
>>
>> > > >> > >=
>>  No=20
>> > > >> > >virus=3D20
>> > > found in this
>> > >=3D20
>> > > >> > >=3D3D
>> > > > outgoing =3D3D3D
>> > > >> message.
>> > > >> > > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.
>> > > >> > > Version: 7.0.296 / Virus Database: 265.6.3 - Release =3D
>> > Date:=3D3D3D20
>> > > >> > 12/21/2004=3D3D3D20
>> > > >> > >=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > >> > > --
>> > > >> > > To post a message to the list, send it to=20
>> > jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx  =3D
>> > =3D3D
>> > > > To=3D3D3D20
>> > > >> > >unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message=3D20
>> > > to=3D3D3D3D20 =3D3D3D20
>> > >=3D20
>> > > >> > >jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe =
>> in=3D3D3D20
>> > > >> > the=3D3D3D3D20  subject=3D3D3D20
>> > > >> > >line.
>> > > >> > > Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
>> > > >> > >=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > >> > > If you have any concerns about the list, post received=3D3D20
>> > > >> from=3D3D3D3D20  =3D3D3D
>> > > >> the=3D3D3D20
>> > > >> > >list, or the way the list is being run, do not post=3D3D20
>> > > >> them=3D3D3D3D20  to the
>> > > >> =3D3D3D
>> > > >>=3D3D20
>> > > >> > >list. Rather contact the list owner at=3D3D3D3D20  =3D3D3D
>> > > >> jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > > >> > >=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > >> > --
>> > > >> > To post a message to the list, send it to=3D20
>> > > jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D3D3D20 To=3D20
>> > > >> >unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message =
>> to=3D3D3D20=3D20=20
>> > > >> >jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in=20
>> > > >> >the=3D3D3D20=3D20 subject line.  Archives located at:
>> > > >> >//www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
>> > > >> >=3D3D3D20
>> > > >> > If you have any concerns about the list, post received =3D
>> > from=3D3D3D20=3D20
>> > > >> >the list, or the way the list is being run, do not post=3D20
>> > > them=3D3D3D20 to=3D20
>> > > >> >the list. Rather contact the list owner at=3D3D3D20=3D20=20
>> > > >> >jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx =3D3D3D20 =3D3D3D20
>> > > >> > --
>> > > >> > No virus found in this incoming message.
>> > > >> > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.
>> > > >> > Version: 7.0.298 / Virus Database: 265.6.5 - Release =
>> Date:=3D3D20
>> > > >> 12/26/2004
>> > > >> >=3D3D3D20
>> > > >> >=3D3D3D20
>> > > >> >=3D3D3D20
>> > > >> >=3D3D3D20
>> > > >> >=3D3D3D20
>> > > >> > --=3D3D3D20
>> > > >> > No virus found in this outgoing message.
>> > > >> > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.
>> > > >> > Version: 7.0.298 / Virus Database: 265.6.5 - Release =
>> Date:=3D3D20
>> > > >> 12/26/2004
>> > > >> >=3D3D3D20
>> > > >> > --
>> > > >> > To post a message to the list, send it to=20
>> > jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To=3D20=20
>> > > >> >unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message =
>> to=3D3D3D20=3D20=20
>> > > >> >jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in=20
>> > > >> >the=3D3D3D20=3D20 subject line.  Archives located at:
>> > > >> >//www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
>> > > >> >=3D3D3D20
>> > > >> > If you have any concerns about the list, post received =3D
>> > from=3D3D3D20=3D20
>> > > >> >the list, or the way the list is being run, do not post=3D20
>> > > them=3D3D3D20 to=3D20
>> > > >> >the list. Rather contact the list owner at=3D3D3D20=3D20=20
>> > > >> >jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx =3D3D3D20
>> > > >> --
>> > > >> To post a message to the list, send it to=20
>> > jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx  To=3D20=20
>> > > >>unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to=3D20=20
>> > > >>jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in=3D20
>> > > the=3D3D20  subject
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>> > > >>line.  Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
>> > > >>=3D3D20
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>> > > >>Rather  contact the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx =
>> =3D3D20=20
>> > > >>=3D3D20
>> > > >> --
>> > > >> To post a message to the list, send it to=20
>> > jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx  To=3D20=20
>> > > >>unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to=3D3D20 =3D20
>>
>> > > >>=
>>
>> > > >>jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in=3D20
>> > > the=3D3D20  subject=3D20
>> > > >>line.
>> > > >> Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
>> > > >>=3D3D20
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>> > > >>list, or the way the list is being run, do not post=20
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>> > the=3D20
>> > > >>list. Rather contact the list owner at=3D3D20  =3D
>> > jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > > >>=3D3D20
>> > > > --
>> > > > To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx =
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>> > > > or the way the list is being run, do not post them to the=3D20
>> > > list. Rather=3D20
>> > > > contact the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > > >=3D20
>> > >=3D20
>> > >=3D20
>> > > --
>> > > To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D20  To
>>
>> > >=
>>
>> > >unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to=3D20=20
>> > >jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in=20
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>>
>> > >=
>>
>> > >list. Rather contact the list owner at=3D20  =
>> jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > >=3D20
>> > >=3D20
>> > > --
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>>
>> > >=
>>
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>> > >jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in=20
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>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Thu, 30 Dec 2004 10:04:54 -0600
> From: Scott Berry <scott@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: a blind friendly dvd player
>
> Hi there,
>
> Has any one got any ideas on a good dvd player which is accessible?  I 
> have
> a Sony here that came with Inter video Dvd Player but I was not
> impressed.  Thanks much.  Also what is a good dvd copier to copy dvd's on
> to the computer?
>
> Scott Berry
>
>
> -- 
> No virus found in this outgoing message.
> Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.
> Version: 7.0.296 / Virus Database: 265.6.6 - Release Date: 12/28/2004
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> From: "Ray Foret Jr." <rforetjr@xxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: Cakewalk info
> Date: Thu, 30 Dec 2004 10:31:48 -0600
>
> Now, the thing I want to know is this.  Does Sonar have a 5.1 channel
> encoder which can be used to encode tracks of audio in to interleaved .wav
> files the way Audition can?  That's one of the things I found attractive
> about version 1.0 of Audition.  It is possible for a blind person to set 
> up
> a multitrack session and then send those tracks to a 5.1 channel encoder
> assigning any number of tracks any place in the 5.1 channel spectrum and
> then exporting the result as an interleaved .wav file or else as a Windows
> Media 9 5.1 channel file.
>
> Sincerely Yours,
>
> The Constantly BAREFOOTED
> Ray
>
> Home Phone And Fax:  (985)853-0139
> E-mail and Windows Messenger:
> rforetjr@xxxxxxxxx
>
> God Bless President George W Bush
> God Bless America
> And God Bless Our Troops
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Bill" <bill.cam@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 6:35 AM
> Subject: Re: Cakewalk info
>
>
> first of all jfw actually had scripts for one versin of cake walk, long 
> ago.
>
> secondly cake walk is much more than an editor.
>
> its designed to let one create their own music.
>
> by the way cake walk is no longer the product of choice here, its
> replacement is sonar and the dancing dots sonar talking scripts for it.
>
>
> multi tracking yes.
>
> software music synths are supported in sonar.
>
> think their is even a acid type program included with sonar.
>
> not sure how it compares to acid.
>
> acid is designed to create loops.
>
> also sonar and cake walk correspond more with sonic foundry vegas, but 
> they
> include some thing vegas does not, midi support.
>
>
> you can use a editor program in conjunction with cake walk or sonar.
>
> like sound forge.
>
> your looking at about 600 dollars to buy sonar and the scripts.
>
> though it is possible to use sonar with out them, its more speech friendly
> than cake walk was.
>
>
>
> bill
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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> From: "Ray Foret Jr." <rforetjr@xxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: AVG Anti Virus
> Date: Thu, 30 Dec 2004 10:33:58 -0600
>
> Joseph, you're right on the money about this one.  Norton; while a very 
> good
> program, slowed my entire PC down real badly.  I became frustrated with
> trying to navigate all the different components which I found behaved very
> inconsistently.  So, I switched to AVG.  Never been happier.
>
> Sincerely Yours,
>
> The Constantly BAREFOOTED
> Ray
>
> Home Phone And Fax:  (985)853-0139
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>
> God Bless President George W Bush
> God Bless America
> And God Bless Our Troops
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Joseph Machise" <josephmachise@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 6:37 AM
> Subject: Re: AVG Anti Virus
>
>
> Hello joe with you.
>
> I had norton and I had a hell of a time with norton, and jaws doesn't like
> norton.
>
> The people @ freedomscientific are write. That jaws doesn't like Norton.
> Good luck from Joseph.
>
>
>
>
> "Why "do "bad "things "Happen "to "good "people!
>
>
>
> !With love always from Joseph.
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "John Miller" <n1umj@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 7:22 AM
> Subject: Re: AVG Anti Virus
>
>
>> you obviously weren't keeping Norton up to date then because I've never
> had
>> an infection with Norton and can honestly say, if you want to put your
> faith
>> in a product that's free where they can turn around and stop tech support
>> any time they want, and in the antivirus world where you generally get
> what
>> you pay for, it's your choice but I'm staying with what I know works with
>> jaws, and more importantly, what I know will keep my computer safe.
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Kerri" <ruby75@xxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 12:16 AM
>> Subject: Re: AVG Anti Virus
>>
>>
>> > Hello! I have also used AVG 6 andnow 7 and have never had any 
>> > infection.
>> > however,with norton, I had about 3 or so serious infections.
>> > ----- Original Message ----- 
>> > From: "Ray Foret Jr." <rforetjr@xxxxxxxxx>
>> > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 6:36 AM
>> > Subject: Re: AVG Anti Virus
>> >
>> >
>> > I use AVG as my anti virus.  I use the free version.  Version 7 is good
>> > with
>> > JAWS version 6.  Be aware that you'll have to set your JAWS up to read
> all
>> > text rather than just highlighted text when you go in to the program's
>> > control center.  If you like, you can set JAWS up so that it only reads
>> > all
>> > text while in the virus vault and the control center and just
> highlighted
>> > text else where in the program.  I've had it for months and never an
>> > infection once ever.
>> >
>> > Sincerely Yours,
>> >
>> > The Constantly BAREFOOTED
>> > Ray
>> >
>> > Home Phone And Fax:  (985)853-0139
>> > E-mail and Windows Messenger:
>> > rforetjr@xxxxxxxxx
>> >
>> > God Bless President George W Bush
>> > God Bless America
>> > And God Bless Our Troops
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message ----- 
>> > From: "Linksma Mezgeja" <love2knit@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > To: "jfw" <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 7:19 AM
>> > Subject: AVG Anti Virus
>> >
>> >
>> > Hi!  Does anybody use AVG as their anti virus? If so, how accessible is
> it
>> > for the new version of JAWS which I hope to install from disc, after it
>> > arrives?
>> > If you have used Norton and changed over to AVG, which do you prefer
>> > strictly as an anti virus?
>> > Thanks.
>> >
>> >
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> From: "david poehlman" <david.poehlman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re: Bug Fixes in 
> JAWS 6
> Date: Thu, 30 Dec 2004 11:37:35 -0500
>
> that's an odd number.
>
> Johnnie Apple Seed
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Horspool, Matthew F." <drjaws@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 11:04 AM
> Subject: RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re: Bug Fixes in
> JAWS 6.0
>
>
> I'm using a 2.53 GHz processor.  I think the other figure was from an
> old laptop.
> -------------------------
> Mr. Matthew F. Horspool
>
> Send me an Electronic Mail to
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> -------------------------
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> Behalf Of david poehlman
> Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 3:23 PM
> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re: Bug Fixes in
> JAWS 6.0
>
>
> What do you get then when you look at system in controll panel?
>
> Johnnie Apple Seed
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Horspool, Matthew F." <drjaws@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 10:13 AM
> Subject: RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re: Bug Fixes in
>
> JAWS 6.0
>
>
> Right.  I used the System Information tool and saved in plain text.
>
> -------------------------
> Mr. Matthew F. Horspool
>
> Send me an Electronic Mail to
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> Or Visit my web site at http://www.horspool.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk
> -------------------------
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> Behalf Of david poehlman
> Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 3:11 PM
> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re: Bug Fixes in
> JAWS 6.0
>
>
> matt,
>
> If you go to control panel, open system and read with the jaws cursor or
>
> ins+b, you are told in plain english what system you have.  I'm not sure
> what you are running to get the result you have below, but thought this
> might help.
>
> Johnnie Apple Seed
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Horspool, Matthew F." <drjaws@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 3:26 AM
> Subject: RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re: Bug Fixes in
>
> JAWS 6.0
>
>
> OK, I thought I got it right, but when I interrogated the system this
> line came up:
> Processor: x86 Family 15 Model 2 Stepping 7 GenuineIntel ~2532 MhZ
>
> If I interpreted this line correctly I have a 2532MhZ processor!
>
> -------------------------
> Mr. Matthew F. Horspool
>
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> Or Visit my web site at http://www.horspool.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk
> -------------------------
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> Behalf Of Chip Orange
> Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 5:13 PM
> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re: Bug Fixes in
> JAWS 6.0
>
>
> If you got that right (and it's not a typo) and your processor speed was
> only 256 mhz, then I could see why switching to a hardware synthesizer
> had such an improvement for you.  That was quite a load for your system.
>
> Chip
>
> =20
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=20  [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>>On Behalf Of Horspool, Matthew F.
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 12:05 PM
>> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re:=20  Bug
>>Fixes in JAWS 6.0 =20  Well I had 512MB RAM and about 256MHZ
>>Processors.  Running at=20  once I had a copy of WinAmp with the Audio
>>stocker and=20  SHOUTcast plugin, Microsoft Outlook, SHOUTcast DNAS
>>(GUI),=20  BVentrilo and the Ventrilo Server, and a copy of JFW.
>>This=20  slowed down the system quite a bit. =20
>> -------------------------
>> Mr. Matthew F. Horspool
>> =20
>> Send me an Electronic Mail to
>> drjaws@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> =20
>> Add
>> horspool@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> to your MSN contact list
>> =20
>> Or Visit my web site at
>> http://www.horspool.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk
>> -------------------------
>>=20
>>=20
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=20
>> [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Chip Orange
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 4:38 PM
>> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re:=20
>> Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0
>>=20
>>=20
>> Ok,  this is the first opinion which strongly prefers one to=20
>> another for other than subjective reasons, and I appreciate it.
>>=20
>> Would you say the system you were using when you made the=20
>> switch was unusually slow, short of ram, or overloaded with=20
>> processing tasks?
>>=20
>> Thanks.
>>=20
>> Chip
>>=20
>> =3D20
>>=20
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D20 =20
>> [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]=20
>> >On Behalf Of Horspool, Matthew F.
>> > Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 11:30 AM
>> > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > Subject: RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re:=3D20  =
> Bug=20
>> >Fixes in JAWS 6.0 =3D20  Used DECtalk ACCESS32 for about a=20
>> year and then=20
>> >switched to a=3D20  DECtalk USB for to get better broadcast=20
>> clarity.  I=20
>> >certainly=3D20  have noticed a huge difference in responsiveness:  =
> The=20
>> >DEC=3D20  USB is faster - a lot faster!
>> >=3D20
>> > -------------------------
>> > Mr. Matthew F. Horspool
>> > =3D20
>> > Send me an Electronic Mail to
>> > drjaws@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > =3D20
>> > Add
>> > horspool@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > to your MSN contact list
>> > =3D20
>> > Or Visit my web site at  http://www.horspool.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk
>> > -------------------------
>> >=3D20
>> >=3D20
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D20
>> >[mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of John Miller
>> > Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 4:20 PM
>> > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > Subject: Re: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re:=3D20  =
> Bug=20
>> >Fixes in JAWS 6.0 =3D20 =3D20  I don't notice it if so.
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: "Chip Orange" <Corange@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 10:47 AM
>> > Subject: RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re:=3D20  =
> Bug=20
>> >Fixes in =3D20  JAWS 6.0 =3D20 =3D20
>> > > Yes; and they do use some processor time.  The question is that=20
>
>> > > on=3D20 todays systems, which usually have plenty of =
> processor=3D20
>> > speed and RAM,=3D20
>> > > does that really make any difference?
>> > >
>> > > Now, I know that it does from reports on AT&T Natural
>> > > Voices=3D20=20 specifically, but I was wondering about Eloquence.
>> > >
>> > > Thanks.
>> > >
>> > > Chip
>> > >
>> > > =3D3D20
>> > >
>> > >> -----Original Message-----
>> > >> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D3D20 =3D20
>> > [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]=3D20
>> > >>On Behalf Of Flor Lynch
>> > >> Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2004 9:00 PM
>> > >> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > >> Subject: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re:=3D20
>> > Bug=3D3D20  Fixes
>> >=3D20
>> > >>in JAWS 6.0 =3D3D20
>> > >> Software synths take up more RAM than hardware ones do.
>> > >> ----- Original Message -----
>> > >> From: "Chip Orange" <Corange@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > >> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > >> Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2004 2:22 PM
>> > >> Subject: RE: Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0
>> > >>=3D3D20
>> > >>=3D3D20
>> > >> Well, no argument with your first point, it is more=3D20
>> > difficult to have =3D20
>> > >>all of the sound coming out of one source; but, when you=3D20
>> > need to use =3D20
>> > >>headphones so as not to disturb someone else, it's also =
> more=3D3D20=20
>> > >>=3D20 convenient. =3D3D20  As for your second, that just=20
>> seems to come=20
>> > >>down to personal=3D3D20
>> =3D20
>> > >>preference  as it doesn't bother me a bit.
>> > >>=3D3D20
>> > >> There is one which you didn't mention, but which I've=3D20
>> > always wondered =3D20
>> > >>about, and that's how much of a load does Eloquence place=3D20
>> > on=3D3D20  your=3D20
>> > >>system  by having the software synth as compared to sending=3D20
>> > the text=3D20
>> > >>to be  spoken out of the serial port?  Anyone have any facts=20
>> > >>along=3D20 this
>> > line?
>> > >>=3D3D20
>> > >> Thanks.
>> > >>=3D3D20
>> > >> Chip
>> > >>=3D3D20
>> > >> =3D3D3D20
>> > >>=3D3D20
>> > >> > -----Original Message-----
>> > >> > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D3D3D20=3D20
>> > >> >[mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Kerri
>> > >> > Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2004 2:04 AM
>> > >> > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > >> > Subject: Re: Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0 =3D3D3D20  Hello  Chip. I=20
>
>> > >> >despise software synthesizers mainly=3D20
>> > because=3D3D3D20 if=3D20
>> > >> >you are required to listen to other media, I find it=20
>> to=3D3D3D20=3D20=20
>> > >> >difficult to with a software synthesizer coming through=20
>> the=3D3D3D20
>>=20
>> > >> >=3D
>>=20
>> > >> >same speakers. I also dislike elloquence's voice, *all of them*
>> > >> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > >> > From: "Chip Orange" <Corange@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > >> > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > >> > Sent: Monday, December 27, 2004 12:02 PM
>> > >> > Subject: RE: Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0 =3D3D3D20 =3D3D3D20  I'm=20
>> > >> >interested in hearing why, as I use a DT express at=3D20
>> > work,=3D3D3D20
>> >=3D20
>> > >> >and eloquence at home, and really haven't felt there's=20
>> much=3D3D3D20
>>=20
>> > >> >=3D
>>=20
>> > >> >difference.  Perhaps there's just something I'm=20
>> missing? =3D3D3D20 =20
>> > >> >Thanks.
>> > >> >=3D3D3D20
>> > >> > Chip
>> > >> >=3D3D3D20
>> > >> > =3D3D3D3D20
>> > >> >=3D3D3D20
>> > >> > > -----Original Message-----
>> > >> > > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D3D3D3D20=3D20
>> > >> > >[mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Kerri
>> > >> > > Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2004 12:17 AM
>> > >> > > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > >> > > Subject: Re: Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0 =3D3D3D3D20  Chris, I=3D20
>> > vehemently=3D20
>> > >> > >despise software synthesizers hence=3D3D3D20
>> > >> > my=3D3D3D3D20  dectalk=3D3D3D20
>> > >> > >use and this is the only version that has been =3D
>> rather=3D3D3D3D20=3D3D20
>> > >>  sluggish.
>> > >> > > ----- Original Message -----
>> > >> > > From: "Chris Skarstad" <toonhead5@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > >> > > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > >> > > Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2004 4:15 PM
>> > >> > > Subject: Re: Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0 =3D3D3D3D20 =3D3D3D3D20 =
> =3D20
>> > man I guess=3D20
>> > >> > >I'm very lucky then. This version actually runs =3D3D
>> > > a=3D3D3D3D20
>> > >> =3D3D3D20
>> > >> > >little faster on my system than 5.10 did. Then again=3D3D20
>> > >> I'm=3D3D3D3D20  using
>> > >> =3D3D3D
>> > >> a=3D3D3D20
>> > >> > >hardware synthesizer which is probably the=20
>> reason.=3D3D3D3D20  =3D3D
>> > > Never=3D3D3D20
>> > >> > did like=3D3D3D20
>> > >> > >software speech and never will based on what=3D3D3D3D20=20
>>  I've=3D3D20
>> > >> seen.  By the
>> > >> =3D3D3D
>> > >>=3D3D20
>> > >> > >way, the murge feature is there. go to=3D3D3D3D20  your=20
>> jaws=3D3D20
>> > >> window with =3D3D3D
>> > >> alt=3D3D3D20
>> > >> > >plus j, press alt u for utilities,=3D3D3D3D20  and it's =
> in=3D3D20
>> > >> there. or simply
>> > >> =3D3D3D
>> > >>=3D3D20
>> > >> > >bring up the context menu if=3D3D3D3D20  you're running=20
>> jaws in =3D
>> =3D3D
>> > > the=3D3D3D20
>> > >> > system tray=3D3D3D20
>> > >> > >and go to utilities=3D3D3D3D20  and the murge utility=20
>> is there.=3D20
>>=20
>> > >> > >=3D3D3D3D20  At 04:29 PM 12/21/2004, you wrote:
>> > >> > > >Hay, you mean, they haven't fixed any right? I'm=3D20
>> > sorry, I=3D3D3D3D20
>> > >> > > just couldn't=3D3D3D3D20
>> > >> > > >resist. In truth, this has been the worst version =
> I've=3D3D20
>> > >> had the=3D3D3D3D20
>> > >> =3D3D3D
>> > >>=3D3D20
>> > >> > > >misfortune to deal with in a long while. It runs=3D3D20
>> > >> terribley slow,=3D3D3D20
>> > >> > > >I'm=3D3D3D3D20 getting false attachments, no merge=20
>> feature=3D3D20
>> > >> anywhere. I=3D3D3D20
>> > >> > > >love=3D3D3D3D20
>> > >> > > spending=3D3D3D3D20
>> > >> > > >money on this "improved" product. Sorry, I'm being a grinch.
>> > >> > > >----- Original Message -----
>> > >> > > >From: "RJ" <rjf1@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > >> > > >To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > >> > > >Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2004 2:16 PM
>> > >> > > >Subject: Re: Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0
>> > >> > > >
>> > >> > > >
>> > >> > > >You are looking right, there just isn't any bugs.=3D20
>> > Smiling here.
>> > >> > > >----- Original Message -----
>> > >> > > >From: "Margaret Thomas" <iluvtoread@xxxxxxx>
>> > >> > > >To: "jfw" <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > >> > > >Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2004 4:15 PM
>> > >> > > >Subject: Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0
>> > >> > > >
>> > >> > > >
>> > >> > > > > Good Afternoon,
>> > >> > > > >
>> > >> > > > >     I had a migraine when JAWS 6.0 was released =
> and=3D3D20
>> > >> am trying=3D3D3D20
>> > >> > > > > to=3D3D3D3D20 catch up with list mail before=3D20
>> > installing the new =3D3D
>> > > =3D3D3D
>> > >> release.
>> > >> > > > >
>> > >> > > > >     I've looked over the What's New section for
>> > >> > > > > 6.0=3D20=20 and=3D3D3D3D20
>> > >> > > could swear=3D3D3D3D20
>> > >> > > > > that there used to be a section on bug fixes, but I'm =
> =3D3D
>> > > not=3D3D3D3D20
>> > >> > > finding it=3D3D3D3D20
>> > >> > > > > for this version.  Am I having another senior moment, =
> =3D3D
>> > > or=3D3D3D3D20
>> > >> > > did FS not=3D3D3D3D20
>> > >> > > > > do it this time, or am I looking in the wrong=3D20
>> > place on=3D3D3D3D20
>> > >> > > the FS site? =3D3D3D3D20
>> > >> > > > > I've been looking at:
>> > >> > > > >
>> > >> > > > >
>> > >> > >=20
>> >http://www.freedomscientific.com/fs_products/software_jaws60f
>> > >> > > ea.asp#JAW
>> > >> > > >S_Features
>> > >> > > > >
>> > >> > > > >     Thanks,
>> > >> > > > > Margaret
>> > >> > > > > iluvtoread@xxxxxxx
>> > >> > > > >
>> > >> > > > > --
>> > >> > > > > To post a message to the list, send it to=3D3D3D20
>> > >> > jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To=3D3D3D3D20=3D3D3D20
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>> > >> > > subject line.
>> > >> > > > > Archives located at:=20
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>> > >> > > >the=3D20=20 list.=3D3D3D20 Rather=3D3D3D3D20 contact the
>> > >> > > >list owner =
> at=3D20=20
>> > >> > > >jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > >> > > > >
>> > >> > > >
>> > >> > > >--
>> > >> > > >To post a message to the list, send it to=3D3D20
>> > >> jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To=3D3D3D3D20
>> > >> =3D3D3D
>> > >>=3D3D20
>> > >> > > >unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message=3D20=20
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>> > the=3D3D3D3D20
>> > >> > > list. Rather=3D3D3D3D20
>> > >> > > >contact the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > >> > > >
>> > >> > > >
>> > >> > > >--
>> > >> > > >No virus found in this incoming message.
>> > >> > > >Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.
>> > >> > > >Version: 7.0.296 / Virus Database: 265.6.3 - Release=3D20
>> > Date:=3D3D3D20
>> > >> > 12/21/2004
>> > >> > > >
>> > >> > > >
>> > >> > > >
>> > >> > > >
>> > >> > > >--
>> > >> > > >No virus found in this outgoing message.
>> > >> > > >Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.
>> > >> > > >Version: 7.0.296 / Virus Database: 265.6.3 - Release=3D20
>> > Date:=3D3D3D20
>> > >> > 12/21/2004
>> > >> > > >
>> > >> > > >--
>> > >> > > >To post a message to the list, send it to=3D3D20
>> > >> jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To=3D3D3D3D20
>> > >> =3D3D3D
>> > >>=3D3D20
>> > >> > > >unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message=3D20=20
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>> > >> > > the list,=3D3D3D3D20
>> > >> > > >or the way the list is being run, do not post them to=3D20
>> > the=3D3D3D3D20
>> > >> > > list. Rather=3D3D3D3D20
>> > >> > > >contact the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > >> > >=3D3D3D3D20
>> > >> > > --
>> > >> > > To post a message to the list, send it to=3D3D20
>> > >> jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D3D3D3D20  To
>> > >> =3D3D3D
>> > >>=3D3D20
>> > >> > >unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message=3D20
>> > to=3D3D3D3D20 =3D3D3D20
>> >=3D20
>> > >> > >jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe =
> in=3D3D3D20
>> > >> > the=3D3D3D3D20  subject=3D3D3D20
>> > >> > >line.
>> > >> > > Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
>> > >> > >=3D3D3D3D20
>> > >> > > If you have any concerns about the list, post received=3D3D20
>> > >> from=3D3D3D3D20  =3D3D3D
>> > >> the=3D3D3D20
>> > >> > >list, or the way the list is being run, do not post=3D3D20
>> > >> them=3D3D3D3D20  to the
>> > >> =3D3D3D
>> > >>=3D3D20
>> > >> > >list. Rather contact the list owner at=3D3D3D3D20  =3D3D3D
>> > >> jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > >> > >=3D3D3D3D20
>> > >> > >=3D3D3D3D20
>> > >> > > --
>> > >> > > No virus found in this incoming message.
>> > >> > > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.
>> > >> > > Version: 7.0.296 / Virus Database: 265.6.3 - Release =3D
>> Date:=3D3D3D20
>> > >> > 12/21/2004=3D3D3D20
>> > >> > >=3D3D3D3D20 =3D3D3D3D20 =3D3D3D3D20 =3D3D3D3D20  --=3D3D3D3D20
>
>> > >> > >=
> No=20
>> > >> > >virus=3D20
>> > found in this
>> >=3D20
>> > >> > >=3D3D
>> > > outgoing =3D3D3D
>> > >> message.
>> > >> > > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.
>> > >> > > Version: 7.0.296 / Virus Database: 265.6.3 - Release =3D
>> Date:=3D3D3D20
>> > >> > 12/21/2004=3D3D3D20
>> > >> > >=3D3D3D3D20
>> > >> > > --
>> > >> > > To post a message to the list, send it to=20
>> jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx  =3D
>> =3D3D
>> > > To=3D3D3D20
>> > >> > >unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message=3D20
>> > to=3D3D3D3D20 =3D3D3D20
>> >=3D20
>> > >> > >jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe =
> in=3D3D3D20
>> > >> > the=3D3D3D3D20  subject=3D3D3D20
>> > >> > >line.
>> > >> > > Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
>> > >> > >=3D3D3D3D20
>> > >> > > If you have any concerns about the list, post received=3D3D20
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>> > >> the=3D3D3D20
>> > >> > >list, or the way the list is being run, do not post=3D3D20
>> > >> them=3D3D3D3D20  to the
>> > >> =3D3D3D
>> > >>=3D3D20
>> > >> > >list. Rather contact the list owner at=3D3D3D3D20  =3D3D3D
>> > >> jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > >> > >=3D3D3D3D20
>> > >> > --
>> > >> > To post a message to the list, send it to=3D20
>> > jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D3D3D20 To=3D20
>> > >> >unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message =
> to=3D3D3D20=3D20=20
>> > >> >jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in=20
>> > >> >the=3D3D3D20=3D20 subject line.  Archives located at:
>> > >> >//www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
>> > >> >=3D3D3D20
>> > >> > If you have any concerns about the list, post received =3D
>> from=3D3D3D20=3D20
>> > >> >the list, or the way the list is being run, do not post=3D20
>> > them=3D3D3D20 to=3D20
>> > >> >the list. Rather contact the list owner at=3D3D3D20=3D20=20
>> > >> >jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx =3D3D3D20 =3D3D3D20
>> > >> > --
>> > >> > No virus found in this incoming message.
>> > >> > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.
>> > >> > Version: 7.0.298 / Virus Database: 265.6.5 - Release =
> Date:=3D3D20
>> > >> 12/26/2004
>> > >> >=3D3D3D20
>> > >> >=3D3D3D20
>> > >> >=3D3D3D20
>> > >> >=3D3D3D20
>> > >> >=3D3D3D20
>> > >> > --=3D3D3D20
>> > >> > No virus found in this outgoing message.
>> > >> > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.
>> > >> > Version: 7.0.298 / Virus Database: 265.6.5 - Release =
> Date:=3D3D20
>> > >> 12/26/2004
>> > >> >=3D3D3D20
>> > >> > --
>> > >> > To post a message to the list, send it to=20
>> jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To=3D20=20
>> > >> >unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message =
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>> > >> >//www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
>> > >> >=3D3D3D20
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>> from=3D3D3D20=3D20
>> > >> >the list, or the way the list is being run, do not post=3D20
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>> > >> >the list. Rather contact the list owner at=3D3D3D20=3D20=20
>> > >> >jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx =3D3D3D20
>> > >> --
>> > >> To post a message to the list, send it to=20
>> jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx  To=3D20=20
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>> > >>jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in=3D20
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> =3D3D20=20
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>> jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx  To=3D20=20
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>> > >> Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
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>> the=3D20
>> > >>list. Rather contact the list owner at=3D3D20  =3D
>> jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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>> > > --
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>> > > jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the=20
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>
>> >=
>
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>
>> >=
>
>> >list. Rather contact the list owner at=3D20  =
> jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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>
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>
> ------------------------------
>
> From: "John Miller" <n1umj@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: Windows Up Date settings with JFW
> Date: Thu, 30 Dec 2004 11:41:04 -0500
>
> If I were you, I'd leave it as is, I like to get updates soon as they come
> here but if you have a reason for changing short of just because you can,
> it's just a matter of preference.
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Chris & Mary" <cmchaffin@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 10:37 AM
> Subject: Re: Windows Up Date settings with JFW
>
>
>> Hi all,
>> At this moment I have my windows updates set to automatically download 
>> and
>> install.  I want to change this setting to either: download updates for
>> me,
>> but do not install them, or, notify me when there are updates but do not
>> download or install them.  Are there any pros and cons to doing one of
>> these
>> settings over the other?
>> Thanks for the help,
>> Chris Chaffin
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "david poehlman" <david.poehlman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 10:13 AM
>> Subject: Re: Windows Up Date settings with JFW
>>
>>
>>> this is automatic updates and no matter which version of jaws you are
>>> using,
>>> you will find automatic updates in controll panel.  Activating this item
>>> brings up a dialog providing choices for settings.
>>>
>>> Johnnie Apple Seed
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "AB7HW Dick Lee Chrisman" <ab7hw@xxxxxxx>
>>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 11:27 PM
>>> Subject: Windows Up Date settings with JFW
>>>
>>>
>>> Hello All
>>> Using JFW 5.00.844 how do I find the Windows XP up date settings?  I 
>>> want
>>> to
>>> make sure the Windows XP up date is set to manual.
>>> I look forward to your information.
>>> Dick
>>>
>>>
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>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> From: "Horspool, Matthew F." <drjaws@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re: Bug Fixes in 
> JAWS 6
> Date: Thu, 30 Dec 2004 16:46:21 -0000
>
> Well that's what I was told
>
> -------------------------
> Mr. Matthew F. Horspool
>
> Send me an Electronic Mail to
> drjaws@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
> Add
> horspool@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> to your MSN contact list
>
> Or Visit my web site at
> http://www.horspool.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk
> -------------------------
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> Behalf Of david poehlman
> Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 4:38 PM
> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re: Bug Fixes in
> JAWS 6.0
>
>
> that's an odd number.
>
> Johnnie Apple Seed
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Horspool, Matthew F." <drjaws@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 11:04 AM
> Subject: RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re: Bug Fixes in
>
> JAWS 6.0
>
>
> I'm using a 2.53 GHz processor.  I think the other figure was from an
> old laptop.
> -------------------------
> Mr. Matthew F. Horspool
>
> Send me an Electronic Mail to
> drjaws@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
> Add
> horspool@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> to your MSN contact list
>
> Or Visit my web site at http://www.horspool.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk
> -------------------------
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> Behalf Of david poehlman
> Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 3:23 PM
> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re: Bug Fixes in
> JAWS 6.0
>
>
> What do you get then when you look at system in controll panel?
>
> Johnnie Apple Seed
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Horspool, Matthew F." <drjaws@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 10:13 AM
> Subject: RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re: Bug Fixes in
>
> JAWS 6.0
>
>
> Right.  I used the System Information tool and saved in plain text.
>
> -------------------------
> Mr. Matthew F. Horspool
>
> Send me an Electronic Mail to
> drjaws@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
> Add
> horspool@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> to your MSN contact list
>
> Or Visit my web site at http://www.horspool.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk
> -------------------------
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> Behalf Of david poehlman
> Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 3:11 PM
> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re: Bug Fixes in
> JAWS 6.0
>
>
> matt,
>
> If you go to control panel, open system and read with the jaws cursor or
>
> ins+b, you are told in plain english what system you have.  I'm not sure
> what you are running to get the result you have below, but thought this
> might help.
>
> Johnnie Apple Seed
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Horspool, Matthew F." <drjaws@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 3:26 AM
> Subject: RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re: Bug Fixes in
>
> JAWS 6.0
>
>
> OK, I thought I got it right, but when I interrogated the system this
> line came up:
> Processor: x86 Family 15 Model 2 Stepping 7 GenuineIntel ~2532 MhZ
>
> If I interpreted this line correctly I have a 2532MhZ processor!
>
> -------------------------
> Mr. Matthew F. Horspool
>
> Send me an Electronic Mail to
> drjaws@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
> Add
> horspool@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> to your MSN contact list
>
> Or Visit my web site at http://www.horspool.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk
> -------------------------
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> Behalf Of Chip Orange
> Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 5:13 PM
> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re: Bug Fixes in
> JAWS 6.0
>
>
> If you got that right (and it's not a typo) and your processor speed was
> only 256 mhz, then I could see why switching to a hardware synthesizer
> had such an improvement for you.  That was quite a load for your system.
>
> Chip
>
> =20
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=20  [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>>On Behalf Of Horspool, Matthew F.
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 12:05 PM
>> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re:=20  Bug
>>Fixes in JAWS 6.0 =20  Well I had 512MB RAM and about 256MHZ
>>Processors.  Running at=20  once I had a copy of WinAmp with the Audio
>>stocker and=20  SHOUTcast plugin, Microsoft Outlook, SHOUTcast DNAS
>>(GUI),=20  BVentrilo and the Ventrilo Server, and a copy of JFW.
>>This=20  slowed down the system quite a bit. =20
>> -------------------------
>> Mr. Matthew F. Horspool
>> =20
>> Send me an Electronic Mail to
>> drjaws@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> =20
>> Add
>> horspool@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> to your MSN contact list
>> =20
>> Or Visit my web site at  http://www.horspool.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk
>> -------------------------
>>=20
>>=20
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=20
>> [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Chip Orange
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 4:38 PM
>> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re:=20
>> Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0
>>=20
>>=20
>> Ok,  this is the first opinion which strongly prefers one to=20
>> another for other than subjective reasons, and I appreciate it.
>>=20
>> Would you say the system you were using when you made the=20
>> switch was unusually slow, short of ram, or overloaded with=20
>> processing tasks?
>>=20
>> Thanks.
>>=20
>> Chip
>>=20
>> =3D20
>>=20
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D20 =20
>> [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]=20
>> >On Behalf Of Horspool, Matthew F.
>> > Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 11:30 AM
>> > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > Subject: RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re:=3D20  =
> Bug=20
>> >Fixes in JAWS 6.0 =3D20  Used DECtalk ACCESS32 for about a=20
>> year and then=20
>> >switched to a=3D20  DECtalk USB for to get better broadcast=20
>> clarity.  I=20
>> >certainly=3D20  have noticed a huge difference in responsiveness:  =
> The=20
>> >DEC=3D20  USB is faster - a lot faster!
>> >=3D20
>> > -------------------------
>> > Mr. Matthew F. Horspool
>> > =3D20
>> > Send me an Electronic Mail to
>> > drjaws@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > =3D20
>> > Add
>> > horspool@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > to your MSN contact list
>> > =3D20
>> > Or Visit my web site at  http://www.horspool.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk
>> > -------------------------
>> >=3D20
>> >=3D20
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D20
>> >[mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of John Miller
>> > Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 4:20 PM
>> > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > Subject: Re: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re:=3D20  =
> Bug=20
>> >Fixes in JAWS 6.0 =3D20 =3D20  I don't notice it if so.
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: "Chip Orange" <Corange@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 10:47 AM
>> > Subject: RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re:=3D20  =
> Bug=20
>> >Fixes in =3D20  JAWS 6.0 =3D20 =3D20
>> > > Yes; and they do use some processor time.  The question is that=20
>
>> > > on=3D20 todays systems, which usually have plenty of =
> processor=3D20
>> > speed and RAM,=3D20
>> > > does that really make any difference?
>> > >
>> > > Now, I know that it does from reports on AT&T Natural
>> > > Voices=3D20=20 specifically, but I was wondering about Eloquence.
>> > >
>> > > Thanks.
>> > >
>> > > Chip
>> > >
>> > > =3D3D20
>> > >
>> > >> -----Original Message-----
>> > >> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D3D20 =3D20
>> > [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]=3D20
>> > >>On Behalf Of Flor Lynch
>> > >> Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2004 9:00 PM
>> > >> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > >> Subject: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re:=3D20
>> > Bug=3D3D20  Fixes
>> >=3D20
>> > >>in JAWS 6.0 =3D3D20
>> > >> Software synths take up more RAM than hardware ones do.
>> > >> ----- Original Message -----
>> > >> From: "Chip Orange" <Corange@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > >> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > >> Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2004 2:22 PM
>> > >> Subject: RE: Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0
>> > >>=3D3D20
>> > >>=3D3D20
>> > >> Well, no argument with your first point, it is more=3D20
>> > difficult to have =3D20
>> > >>all of the sound coming out of one source; but, when you=3D20
>> > need to use =3D20
>> > >>headphones so as not to disturb someone else, it's also =
> more=3D3D20=20
>> > >>=3D20 convenient. =3D3D20  As for your second, that just=20
>> seems to come=20
>> > >>down to personal=3D3D20
>> =3D20
>> > >>preference  as it doesn't bother me a bit.
>> > >>=3D3D20
>> > >> There is one which you didn't mention, but which I've=3D20
>> > always wondered =3D20
>> > >>about, and that's how much of a load does Eloquence place=3D20
>> > on=3D3D20  your=3D20
>> > >>system  by having the software synth as compared to sending=3D20
>> > the text=3D20
>> > >>to be  spoken out of the serial port?  Anyone have any facts=20
>> > >>along=3D20 this
>> > line?
>> > >>=3D3D20
>> > >> Thanks.
>> > >>=3D3D20
>> > >> Chip
>> > >>=3D3D20
>> > >> =3D3D3D20
>> > >>=3D3D20
>> > >> > -----Original Message-----
>> > >> > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D3D3D20=3D20
>> > >> >[mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Kerri
>> > >> > Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2004 2:04 AM
>> > >> > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > >> > Subject: Re: Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0 =3D3D3D20  Hello  Chip. I=20
>
>> > >> >despise software synthesizers mainly=3D20
>> > because=3D3D3D20 if=3D20
>> > >> >you are required to listen to other media, I find it=20
>> to=3D3D3D20=3D20=20
>> > >> >difficult to with a software synthesizer coming through=20
>> the=3D3D3D20
>>=20
>> > >> >=3D
>>=20
>> > >> >same speakers. I also dislike elloquence's voice, *all of them*
>> > >> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > >> > From: "Chip Orange" <Corange@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > >> > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > >> > Sent: Monday, December 27, 2004 12:02 PM
>> > >> > Subject: RE: Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0 =3D3D3D20 =3D3D3D20  I'm=20
>> > >> >interested in hearing why, as I use a DT express at=3D20
>> > work,=3D3D3D20
>> >=3D20
>> > >> >and eloquence at home, and really haven't felt there's=20
>> much=3D3D3D20
>>=20
>> > >> >=3D
>>=20
>> > >> >difference.  Perhaps there's just something I'm=20
>> missing? =3D3D3D20 =20
>> > >> >Thanks.
>> > >> >=3D3D3D20
>> > >> > Chip
>> > >> >=3D3D3D20
>> > >> > =3D3D3D3D20
>> > >> >=3D3D3D20
>> > >> > > -----Original Message-----
>> > >> > > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D3D3D3D20=3D20
>> > >> > >[mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Kerri
>> > >> > > Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2004 12:17 AM
>> > >> > > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > >> > > Subject: Re: Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0 =3D3D3D3D20  Chris, I=3D20
>> > vehemently=3D20
>> > >> > >despise software synthesizers hence=3D3D3D20
>> > >> > my=3D3D3D3D20  dectalk=3D3D3D20
>> > >> > >use and this is the only version that has been =3D
>> rather=3D3D3D3D20=3D3D20
>> > >>  sluggish.
>> > >> > > ----- Original Message -----
>> > >> > > From: "Chris Skarstad" <toonhead5@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > >> > > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > >> > > Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2004 4:15 PM
>> > >> > > Subject: Re: Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0 =3D3D3D3D20 =3D3D3D3D20 =
> =3D20
>> > man I guess=3D20
>> > >> > >I'm very lucky then. This version actually runs =3D3D
>> > > a=3D3D3D3D20
>> > >> =3D3D3D20
>> > >> > >little faster on my system than 5.10 did. Then again=3D3D20
>> > >> I'm=3D3D3D3D20  using
>> > >> =3D3D3D
>> > >> a=3D3D3D20
>> > >> > >hardware synthesizer which is probably the=20
>> reason.=3D3D3D3D20  =3D3D
>> > > Never=3D3D3D20
>> > >> > did like=3D3D3D20
>> > >> > >software speech and never will based on what=3D3D3D3D20=20
>>  I've=3D3D20
>> > >> seen.  By the
>> > >> =3D3D3D
>> > >>=3D3D20
>> > >> > >way, the murge feature is there. go to=3D3D3D3D20  your=20
>> jaws=3D3D20
>> > >> window with =3D3D3D
>> > >> alt=3D3D3D20
>> > >> > >plus j, press alt u for utilities,=3D3D3D3D20  and it's =
> in=3D3D20
>> > >> there. or simply
>> > >> =3D3D3D
>> > >>=3D3D20
>> > >> > >bring up the context menu if=3D3D3D3D20  you're running=20
>> jaws in =3D
>> =3D3D
>> > > the=3D3D3D20
>> > >> > system tray=3D3D3D20
>> > >> > >and go to utilities=3D3D3D3D20  and the murge utility=20
>> is there.=3D20
>>=20
>> > >> > >=3D3D3D3D20  At 04:29 PM 12/21/2004, you wrote:
>> > >> > > >Hay, you mean, they haven't fixed any right? I'm=3D20
>> > sorry, I=3D3D3D3D20
>> > >> > > just couldn't=3D3D3D3D20
>> > >> > > >resist. In truth, this has been the worst version =
> I've=3D3D20
>> > >> had the=3D3D3D3D20
>> > >> =3D3D3D
>> > >>=3D3D20
>> > >> > > >misfortune to deal with in a long while. It runs=3D3D20
>> > >> terribley slow,=3D3D3D20
>> > >> > > >I'm=3D3D3D3D20 getting false attachments, no merge=20
>> feature=3D3D20
>> > >> anywhere. I=3D3D3D20
>> > >> > > >love=3D3D3D3D20
>> > >> > > spending=3D3D3D3D20
>> > >> > > >money on this "improved" product. Sorry, I'm being a grinch.
>> > >> > > >----- Original Message -----
>> > >> > > >From: "RJ" <rjf1@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > >> > > >To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > >> > > >Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2004 2:16 PM
>> > >> > > >Subject: Re: Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0
>> > >> > > >
>> > >> > > >
>> > >> > > >You are looking right, there just isn't any bugs.=3D20
>> > Smiling here.
>> > >> > > >----- Original Message -----
>> > >> > > >From: "Margaret Thomas" <iluvtoread@xxxxxxx>
>> > >> > > >To: "jfw" <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > >> > > >Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2004 4:15 PM
>> > >> > > >Subject: Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0
>> > >> > > >
>> > >> > > >
>> > >> > > > > Good Afternoon,
>> > >> > > > >
>> > >> > > > >     I had a migraine when JAWS 6.0 was released =
> and=3D3D20
>> > >> am trying=3D3D3D20
>> > >> > > > > to=3D3D3D3D20 catch up with list mail before=3D20
>> > installing the new =3D3D
>> > > =3D3D3D
>> > >> release.
>> > >> > > > >
>> > >> > > > >     I've looked over the What's New section for
>> > >> > > > > 6.0=3D20=20 and=3D3D3D3D20
>> > >> > > could swear=3D3D3D3D20
>> > >> > > > > that there used to be a section on bug fixes, but I'm =
> =3D3D
>> > > not=3D3D3D3D20
>> > >> > > finding it=3D3D3D3D20
>> > >> > > > > for this version.  Am I having another senior moment, =
> =3D3D
>> > > or=3D3D3D3D20
>> > >> > > did FS not=3D3D3D3D20
>> > >> > > > > do it this time, or am I looking in the wrong=3D20
>> > place on=3D3D3D3D20
>> > >> > > the FS site? =3D3D3D3D20
>> > >> > > > > I've been looking at:
>> > >> > > > >
>> > >> > > > >
>> > >> > >=20
>> >http://www.freedomscientific.com/fs_products/software_jaws60f
>> > >> > > ea.asp#JAW
>> > >> > > >S_Features
>> > >> > > > >
>> > >> > > > >     Thanks,
>> > >> > > > > Margaret
>> > >> > > > > iluvtoread@xxxxxxx
>> > >> > > > >
>> > >> > > > > --
>> > >> > > > > To post a message to the list, send it to=3D3D3D20
>> > >> > jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To=3D3D3D3D20=3D3D3D20
>> > >> > > > > unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to
>> > >> > > >jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe
>> > >> > > >in=3D20=20 the=3D3D3D3D20
>> > >> > > subject line.
>> > >> > > > > Archives located at:=20
>> //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
>> > >> > > > >
>> > >> > > > > If you have any concerns about the list, post =3D
>> received=3D3D3D20
>> > >> > from the=3D3D3D3D20=3D3D3D20
>> > >> > > > > list, or
>> > >> > > >the way the list is being run, do not post them to
>> > >> > > >the=3D20=20 list.=3D3D3D20 Rather=3D3D3D3D20 contact the
>> > >> > > >list owner =
> at=3D20=20
>> > >> > > >jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > >> > > > >
>> > >> > > >
>> > >> > > >--
>> > >> > > >To post a message to the list, send it to=3D3D20
>> > >> jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To=3D3D3D3D20
>> > >> =3D3D3D
>> > >>=3D3D20
>> > >> > > >unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message=3D20=20
>> > >> > > >to=3D3D3D3D20=3D3D3D20 jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with=20
>> the word=3D20=20
>> > >> > > >unsubscribe in the=3D3D3D3D20
>> > >> > > subject line.
>> > >> > > >Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
>> > >> > > >
>> > >> > > >If you have any concerns about the list, post received =3D3D
>> > > from=3D3D3D3D20
>> > >> > > the list,=3D3D3D3D20
>> > >> > > >or the way the list is being run, do not post them to=3D20
>> > the=3D3D3D3D20
>> > >> > > list. Rather=3D3D3D3D20
>> > >> > > >contact the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > >> > > >
>> > >> > > >
>> > >> > > >--
>> > >> > > >No virus found in this incoming message.
>> > >> > > >Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.
>> > >> > > >Version: 7.0.296 / Virus Database: 265.6.3 - Release=3D20
>> > Date:=3D3D3D20
>> > >> > 12/21/2004
>> > >> > > >
>> > >> > > >
>> > >> > > >
>> > >> > > >
>> > >> > > >--
>> > >> > > >No virus found in this outgoing message.
>> > >> > > >Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.
>> > >> > > >Version: 7.0.296 / Virus Database: 265.6.3 - Release=3D20
>> > Date:=3D3D3D20
>> > >> > 12/21/2004
>> > >> > > >
>> > >> > > >--
>> > >> > > >To post a message to the list, send it to=3D3D20
>> > >> jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To=3D3D3D3D20
>> > >> =3D3D3D
>> > >>=3D3D20
>> > >> > > >unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message=3D20=20
>> > >> > > >to=3D3D3D3D20=3D3D3D20 jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with=20
>> the word=3D20=20
>> > >> > > >unsubscribe in the=3D3D3D3D20
>> > >> > > subject line.
>> > >> > > >Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
>> > >> > > >
>> > >> > > >If you have any concerns about the list, post received =3D3D
>> > > from=3D3D3D3D20
>> > >> > > the list,=3D3D3D3D20
>> > >> > > >or the way the list is being run, do not post them to=3D20
>> > the=3D3D3D3D20
>> > >> > > list. Rather=3D3D3D3D20
>> > >> > > >contact the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > >> > >=3D3D3D3D20
>> > >> > > --
>> > >> > > To post a message to the list, send it to=3D3D20
>> > >> jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D3D3D3D20  To
>> > >> =3D3D3D
>> > >>=3D3D20
>> > >> > >unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message=3D20
>> > to=3D3D3D3D20 =3D3D3D20
>> >=3D20
>> > >> > >jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe =
> in=3D3D3D20
>> > >> > the=3D3D3D3D20  subject=3D3D3D20
>> > >> > >line.
>> > >> > > Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
>> > >> > >=3D3D3D3D20
>> > >> > > If you have any concerns about the list, post received=3D3D20
>> > >> from=3D3D3D3D20  =3D3D3D
>> > >> the=3D3D3D20
>> > >> > >list, or the way the list is being run, do not post=3D3D20
>> > >> them=3D3D3D3D20  to the
>> > >> =3D3D3D
>> > >>=3D3D20
>> > >> > >list. Rather contact the list owner at=3D3D3D3D20  =3D3D3D
>> > >> jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > >> > >=3D3D3D3D20
>> > >> > >=3D3D3D3D20
>> > >> > > --
>> > >> > > No virus found in this incoming message.
>> > >> > > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.
>> > >> > > Version: 7.0.296 / Virus Database: 265.6.3 - Release =3D
>> Date:=3D3D3D20
>> > >> > 12/21/2004=3D3D3D20
>> > >> > >=3D3D3D3D20 =3D3D3D3D20 =3D3D3D3D20 =3D3D3D3D20  --=3D3D3D3D20
>
>> > >> > >=
> No=20
>> > >> > >virus=3D20
>> > found in this
>> >=3D20
>> > >> > >=3D3D
>> > > outgoing =3D3D3D
>> > >> message.
>> > >> > > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.
>> > >> > > Version: 7.0.296 / Virus Database: 265.6.3 - Release =3D
>> Date:=3D3D3D20
>> > >> > 12/21/2004=3D3D3D20
>> > >> > >=3D3D3D3D20
>> > >> > > --
>> > >> > > To post a message to the list, send it to=20
>> jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx  =3D
>> =3D3D
>> > > To=3D3D3D20
>> > >> > >unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message=3D20
>> > to=3D3D3D3D20 =3D3D3D20
>> >=3D20
>> > >> > >jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe =
> in=3D3D3D20
>> > >> > the=3D3D3D3D20  subject=3D3D3D20
>> > >> > >line.
>> > >> > > Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
>> > >> > >=3D3D3D3D20
>> > >> > > If you have any concerns about the list, post received=3D3D20
>> > >> from=3D3D3D3D20  =3D3D3D
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> From: <ptusing@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: Oe hotkey won't work in jaws 6.
> Date: Thu, 30 Dec 2004 12:05:44 -0500
>
> Hi,  Walter,
> The  "alt grave"  hot key is onet hing in  Outlook Expressthat doesw ork 
> for
> me with JAWS 6.
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Walter Siren" <wsiren@xxxxxxx>
> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 11:19 AM
> Subject: Oe hotkey won't work in jaws 6.
>
>
>> I recently found a hotkey for OE.  This key is alt+grave, this hotkey
> allows one to skip from the to field in  a message
>> to the message body.  With jaws 6 however, it doesn't work.  Has anybody
> else ran across this.
>> Walter Siren
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Horspool, Matthew F." <drjaws@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 10:04 AM
>> Subject: RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re: Bug Fixes in
> JAWS 6.0
>>
>>
>> > I'm using a 2.53 GHz processor.  I think the other figure was from an
>> > old laptop.
>> > -------------------------
>> > Mr. Matthew F. Horspool
>> >
>> > Send me an Electronic Mail to
>> > drjaws@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >
>> > Add
>> > horspool@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > to your MSN contact list
>> >
>> > Or Visit my web site at
>> > http://www.horspool.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk
>> > -------------------------
>> >
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
>> > Behalf Of david poehlman
>> > Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 3:23 PM
>> > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > Subject: Re: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re: Bug Fixes 
>> > in
>> > JAWS 6.0
>> >
>> >
>> > What do you get then when you look at system in controll panel?
>> >
>> > Johnnie Apple Seed
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: "Horspool, Matthew F." <drjaws@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 10:13 AM
>> > Subject: RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re: Bug Fixes 
>> > in
>> >
>> > JAWS 6.0
>> >
>> >
>> > Right.  I used the System Information tool and saved in plain text.
>> >
>> > -------------------------
>> > Mr. Matthew F. Horspool
>> >
>> > Send me an Electronic Mail to
>> > drjaws@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >
>> > Add
>> > horspool@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > to your MSN contact list
>> >
>> > Or Visit my web site at http://www.horspool.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk
>> > -------------------------
>> >
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
>> > Behalf Of david poehlman
>> > Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 3:11 PM
>> > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > Subject: Re: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re: Bug Fixes 
>> > in
>> > JAWS 6.0
>> >
>> >
>> > matt,
>> >
>> > If you go to control panel, open system and read with the jaws cursor 
>> > or
>> >
>> > ins+b, you are told in plain english what system you have.  I'm not 
>> > sure
>> > what you are running to get the result you have below, but thought this
>> > might help.
>> >
>> > Johnnie Apple Seed
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: "Horspool, Matthew F." <drjaws@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 3:26 AM
>> > Subject: RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re: Bug Fixes 
>> > in
>> >
>> > JAWS 6.0
>> >
>> >
>> > OK, I thought I got it right, but when I interrogated the system this
>> > line came up:
>> > Processor: x86 Family 15 Model 2 Stepping 7 GenuineIntel ~2532 MhZ
>> >
>> > If I interpreted this line correctly I have a 2532MhZ processor!
>> >
>> > -------------------------
>> > Mr. Matthew F. Horspool
>> >
>> > Send me an Electronic Mail to
>> > drjaws@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >
>> > Add
>> > horspool@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > to your MSN contact list
>> >
>> > Or Visit my web site at http://www.horspool.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk
>> > -------------------------
>> >
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
>> > Behalf Of Chip Orange
>> > Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 5:13 PM
>> > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > Subject: RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re: Bug Fixes 
>> > in
>> > JAWS 6.0
>> >
>> >
>> > If you got that right (and it's not a typo) and your processor speed 
>> > was
>> > only 256 mhz, then I could see why switching to a hardware synthesizer
>> > had such an improvement for you.  That was quite a load for your 
>> > system.
>> >
>> > Chip
>> >
>> > =20
>> >
>> > > -----Original Message-----
>> > > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=20  [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>> > >On Behalf Of Horspool, Matthew F.
>> > > Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 12:05 PM
>> > > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > > Subject: RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re:=20  Bug
>> > >Fixes in JAWS 6.0 =20  Well I had 512MB RAM and about 256MHZ
>> > >Processors.  Running at=20  once I had a copy of WinAmp with the Audio
>> > >stocker and=20  SHOUTcast plugin, Microsoft Outlook, SHOUTcast DNAS
>> > >(GUI),=20  BVentrilo and the Ventrilo Server, and a copy of JFW.
>> > >This=20  slowed down the system quite a bit. =20
>> > > -------------------------
>> > > Mr. Matthew F. Horspool
>> > > =20
>> > > Send me an Electronic Mail to
>> > > drjaws@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > > =20
>> > > Add
>> > > horspool@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > > to your MSN contact list
>> > > =20
>> > > Or Visit my web site at
>> > > http://www.horspool.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk
>> > > -------------------------
>> > >=20
>> > >=20
>> > > -----Original Message-----
>> > > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=20
>> > > [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Chip Orange
>> > > Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 4:38 PM
>> > > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > > Subject: RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re:=20
>> > > Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0
>> > >=20
>> > >=20
>> > > Ok,  this is the first opinion which strongly prefers one to=20
>> > > another for other than subjective reasons, and I appreciate it.
>> > >=20
>> > > Would you say the system you were using when you made the=20
>> > > switch was unusually slow, short of ram, or overloaded with=20
>> > > processing tasks?
>> > >=20
>> > > Thanks.
>> > >=20
>> > > Chip
>> > >=20
>> > > =3D20
>> > >=20
>> > > > -----Original Message-----
>> > > > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D20 =20
>> > > [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]=20
>> > > >On Behalf Of Horspool, Matthew F.
>> > > > Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 11:30 AM
>> > > > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > > > Subject: RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re:=3D20  =
>> > Bug=20
>> > > >Fixes in JAWS 6.0 =3D20  Used DECtalk ACCESS32 for about a=20
>> > > year and then=20
>> > > >switched to a=3D20  DECtalk USB for to get better broadcast=20
>> > > clarity.  I=20
>> > > >certainly=3D20  have noticed a huge difference in responsiveness:  =
>> > The=20
>> > > >DEC=3D20  USB is faster - a lot faster!
>> > > >=3D20
>> > > > -------------------------
>> > > > Mr. Matthew F. Horspool
>> > > > =3D20
>> > > > Send me an Electronic Mail to
>> > > > drjaws@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > > > =3D20
>> > > > Add
>> > > > horspool@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > > > to your MSN contact list
>> > > > =3D20
>> > > > Or Visit my web site at  http://www.horspool.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk
>> > > > -------------------------
>> > > >=3D20
>> > > >=3D20
>> > > > -----Original Message-----
>> > > > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D20
>> > > >[mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of John Miller
>> > > > Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 4:20 PM
>> > > > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > > > Subject: Re: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re:=3D20  =
>> > Bug=20
>> > > >Fixes in JAWS 6.0 =3D20 =3D20  I don't notice it if so.
>> > > > ----- Original Message -----
>> > > > From: "Chip Orange" <Corange@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > > > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > > > Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 10:47 AM
>> > > > Subject: RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re:=3D20  =
>> > Bug=20
>> > > >Fixes in =3D20  JAWS 6.0 =3D20 =3D20
>> > > > > Yes; and they do use some processor time.  The question is 
>> > > > > that=20
>> >
>> > > > > on=3D20 todays systems, which usually have plenty of =
>> > processor=3D20
>> > > > speed and RAM,=3D20
>> > > > > does that really make any difference?
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Now, I know that it does from reports on AT&T Natural
>> > > > > Voices=3D20=20 specifically, but I was wondering about Eloquence.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Thanks.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Chip
>> > > > >
>> > > > > =3D3D20
>> > > > >
>> > > > >> -----Original Message-----
>> > > > >> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D3D20 =3D20
>> > > > [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]=3D20
>> > > > >>On Behalf Of Flor Lynch
>> > > > >> Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2004 9:00 PM
>> > > > >> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > > > >> Subject: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re:=3D20
>> > > > Bug=3D3D20  Fixes
>> > > >=3D20
>> > > > >>in JAWS 6.0 =3D3D20
>> > > > >> Software synths take up more RAM than hardware ones do.
>> > > > >> ----- Original Message -----
>> > > > >> From: "Chip Orange" <Corange@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > > > >> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > > > >> Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2004 2:22 PM
>> > > > >> Subject: RE: Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0
>> > > > >>=3D3D20
>> > > > >>=3D3D20
>> > > > >> Well, no argument with your first point, it is more=3D20
>> > > > difficult to have =3D20
>> > > > >>all of the sound coming out of one source; but, when you=3D20
>> > > > need to use =3D20
>> > > > >>headphones so as not to disturb someone else, it's also =
>> > more=3D3D20=20
>> > > > >>=3D20 convenient. =3D3D20  As for your second, that just=20
>> > > seems to come=20
>> > > > >>down to personal=3D3D20
>> > > =3D20
>> > > > >>preference  as it doesn't bother me a bit.
>> > > > >>=3D3D20
>> > > > >> There is one which you didn't mention, but which I've=3D20
>> > > > always wondered =3D20
>> > > > >>about, and that's how much of a load does Eloquence place=3D20
>> > > > on=3D3D20  your=3D20
>> > > > >>system  by having the software synth as compared to sending=3D20
>> > > > the text=3D20
>> > > > >>to be  spoken out of the serial port?  Anyone have any facts=20
>> > > > >>along=3D20 this
>> > > > line?
>> > > > >>=3D3D20
>> > > > >> Thanks.
>> > > > >>=3D3D20
>> > > > >> Chip
>> > > > >>=3D3D20
>> > > > >> =3D3D3D20
>> > > > >>=3D3D20
>> > > > >> > -----Original Message-----
>> > > > >> > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D3D3D20=3D20
>> > > > >> >[mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Kerri
>> > > > >> > Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2004 2:04 AM
>> > > > >> > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > > > >> > Subject: Re: Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0 =3D3D3D20  Hello  Chip. 
>> > > > >> > I=20
>> >
>> > > > >> >despise software synthesizers mainly=3D20
>> > > > because=3D3D3D20 if=3D20
>> > > > >> >you are required to listen to other media, I find it=20
>> > > to=3D3D3D20=3D20=20
>> > > > >> >difficult to with a software synthesizer coming through=20
>> > > the=3D3D3D20
>> > >=20
>> > > > >> >=3D
>> > >=20
>> > > > >> >same speakers. I also dislike elloquence's voice, *all of them*
>> > > > >> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > > > >> > From: "Chip Orange" <Corange@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > > > >> > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > > > >> > Sent: Monday, December 27, 2004 12:02 PM
>> > > > >> > Subject: RE: Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0 =3D3D3D20 =3D3D3D20  I'm=20
>> > > > >> >interested in hearing why, as I use a DT express at=3D20
>> > > > work,=3D3D3D20
>> > > >=3D20
>> > > > >> >and eloquence at home, and really haven't felt there's=20
>> > > much=3D3D3D20
>> > >=20
>> > > > >> >=3D
>> > >=20
>> > > > >> >difference.  Perhaps there's just something I'm=20
>> > > missing? =3D3D3D20 =20
>> > > > >> >Thanks.
>> > > > >> >=3D3D3D20
>> > > > >> > Chip
>> > > > >> >=3D3D3D20
>> > > > >> > =3D3D3D3D20
>> > > > >> >=3D3D3D20
>> > > > >> > > -----Original Message-----
>> > > > >> > > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D3D3D3D20=3D20
>> > > > >> > >[mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Kerri
>> > > > >> > > Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2004 12:17 AM
>> > > > >> > > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > > > >> > > Subject: Re: Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0 =3D3D3D3D20  Chris, 
>> > > > >> > > I=3D20
>> > > > vehemently=3D20
>> > > > >> > >despise software synthesizers hence=3D3D3D20
>> > > > >> > my=3D3D3D3D20  dectalk=3D3D3D20
>> > > > >> > >use and this is the only version that has been =3D
>> > > rather=3D3D3D3D20=3D3D20
>> > > > >>  sluggish.
>> > > > >> > > ----- Original Message -----
>> > > > >> > > From: "Chris Skarstad" <toonhead5@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > > > >> > > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > > > >> > > Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2004 4:15 PM
>> > > > >> > > Subject: Re: Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0 =3D3D3D3D20 =3D3D3D3D20 =
>> > =3D20
>> > > > man I guess=3D20
>> > > > >> > >I'm very lucky then. This version actually runs =3D3D
>> > > > > a=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > > >> =3D3D3D20
>> > > > >> > >little faster on my system than 5.10 did. Then again=3D3D20
>> > > > >> I'm=3D3D3D3D20  using
>> > > > >> =3D3D3D
>> > > > >> a=3D3D3D20
>> > > > >> > >hardware synthesizer which is probably the=20
>> > > reason.=3D3D3D3D20  =3D3D
>> > > > > Never=3D3D3D20
>> > > > >> > did like=3D3D3D20
>> > > > >> > >software speech and never will based on what=3D3D3D3D20=20
>> > >  I've=3D3D20
>> > > > >> seen.  By the
>> > > > >> =3D3D3D
>> > > > >>=3D3D20
>> > > > >> > >way, the murge feature is there. go to=3D3D3D3D20  your=20
>> > > jaws=3D3D20
>> > > > >> window with =3D3D3D
>> > > > >> alt=3D3D3D20
>> > > > >> > >plus j, press alt u for utilities,=3D3D3D3D20  and it's =
>> > in=3D3D20
>> > > > >> there. or simply
>> > > > >> =3D3D3D
>> > > > >>=3D3D20
>> > > > >> > >bring up the context menu if=3D3D3D3D20  you're running=20
>> > > jaws in =3D
>> > > =3D3D
>> > > > > the=3D3D3D20
>> > > > >> > system tray=3D3D3D20
>> > > > >> > >and go to utilities=3D3D3D3D20  and the murge utility=20
>> > > is there.=3D20
>> > >=20
>> > > > >> > >=3D3D3D3D20  At 04:29 PM 12/21/2004, you wrote:
>> > > > >> > > >Hay, you mean, they haven't fixed any right? I'm=3D20
>> > > > sorry, I=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > > >> > > just couldn't=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > > >> > > >resist. In truth, this has been the worst version =
>> > I've=3D3D20
>> > > > >> had the=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > > >> =3D3D3D
>> > > > >>=3D3D20
>> > > > >> > > >misfortune to deal with in a long while. It runs=3D3D20
>> > > > >> terribley slow,=3D3D3D20
>> > > > >> > > >I'm=3D3D3D3D20 getting false attachments, no merge=20
>> > > feature=3D3D20
>> > > > >> anywhere. I=3D3D3D20
>> > > > >> > > >love=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > > >> > > spending=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > > >> > > >money on this "improved" product. Sorry, I'm being a 
>> > > > >> > > >grinch.
>> > > > >> > > >----- Original Message -----
>> > > > >> > > >From: "RJ" <rjf1@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > > > >> > > >To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > > > >> > > >Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2004 2:16 PM
>> > > > >> > > >Subject: Re: Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0
>> > > > >> > > >
>> > > > >> > > >
>> > > > >> > > >You are looking right, there just isn't any bugs.=3D20
>> > > > Smiling here.
>> > > > >> > > >----- Original Message -----
>> > > > >> > > >From: "Margaret Thomas" <iluvtoread@xxxxxxx>
>> > > > >> > > >To: "jfw" <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > > > >> > > >Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2004 4:15 PM
>> > > > >> > > >Subject: Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0
>> > > > >> > > >
>> > > > >> > > >
>> > > > >> > > > > Good Afternoon,
>> > > > >> > > > >
>> > > > >> > > > >     I had a migraine when JAWS 6.0 was released =
>> > and=3D3D20
>> > > > >> am trying=3D3D3D20
>> > > > >> > > > > to=3D3D3D3D20 catch up with list mail before=3D20
>> > > > installing the new =3D3D
>> > > > > =3D3D3D
>> > > > >> release.
>> > > > >> > > > >
>> > > > >> > > > >     I've looked over the What's New section for
>> > > > >> > > > > 6.0=3D20=20 and=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > > >> > > could swear=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > > >> > > > > that there used to be a section on bug fixes, but I'm =
>> > =3D3D
>> > > > > not=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > > >> > > finding it=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > > >> > > > > for this version.  Am I having another senior moment, =
>> > =3D3D
>> > > > > or=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > > >> > > did FS not=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > > >> > > > > do it this time, or am I looking in the wrong=3D20
>> > > > place on=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > > >> > > the FS site? =3D3D3D3D20
>> > > > >> > > > > I've been looking at:
>> > > > >> > > > >
>> > > > >> > > > >
>> > > > >> > >=20
>> > > >http://www.freedomscientific.com/fs_products/software_jaws60f
>> > > > >> > > ea.asp#JAW
>> > > > >> > > >S_Features
>> > > > >> > > > >
>> > > > >> > > > >     Thanks,
>> > > > >> > > > > Margaret
>> > > > >> > > > > iluvtoread@xxxxxxx
>> > > > >> > > > >
>> > > > >> > > > > --
>> > > > >> > > > > To post a message to the list, send it to=3D3D3D20
>> > > > >> > jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To=3D3D3D3D20=3D3D3D20
>> > > > >> > > > > unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to
>> > > > >> > > >jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe
>> > > > >> > > >in=3D20=20 the=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > > >> > > subject line.
>> > > > >> > > > > Archives located at:=20
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>> > > > >> > > > >
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>> > > > >> > from the=3D3D3D3D20=3D3D3D20
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>> > > > >> > > >the=3D20=20 list.=3D3D3D20 Rather=3D3D3D3D20 contact the
>> > > > >> > > >list owner =
>> > at=3D20=20
>> > > > >> > > >jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > > > >> > > > >
>> > > > >> > > >
>> > > > >> > > >--
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>> > > > > from=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > > >> > > the list,=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > > >> > > >or the way the list is being run, do not post them to=3D20
>> > > > the=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > > >> > > list. Rather=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > > >> > > >contact the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > > > >> > > >
>> > > > >> > > >
>> > > > >> > > >--
>> > > > >> > > >No virus found in this incoming message.
>> > > > >> > > >Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.
>> > > > >> > > >Version: 7.0.296 / Virus Database: 265.6.3 - Release=3D20
>> > > > Date:=3D3D3D20
>> > > > >> > 12/21/2004
>> > > > >> > > >
>> > > > >> > > >
>> > > > >> > > >
>> > > > >> > > >
>> > > > >> > > >--
>> > > > >> > > >No virus found in this outgoing message.
>> > > > >> > > >Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.
>> > > > >> > > >Version: 7.0.296 / Virus Database: 265.6.3 - Release=3D20
>> > > > Date:=3D3D3D20
>> > > > >> > 12/21/2004
>> > > > >> > > >
>> > > > >> > > >--
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>> > > > >> jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > > >> =3D3D3D
>> > > > >>=3D3D20
>> > > > >> > > >unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message=3D20=20
>> > > > >> > > >to=3D3D3D3D20=3D3D3D20 jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with=20
>> > > the word=3D20=20
>> > > > >> > > >unsubscribe in the=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > > >> > > subject line.
>> > > > >> > > >Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
>> > > > >> > > >
>> > > > >> > > >If you have any concerns about the list, post received 
>> > > > >> > > >=3D3D
>> > > > > from=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > > >> > > the list,=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > > >> > > >or the way the list is being run, do not post them to=3D20
>> > > > the=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > > >> > > list. Rather=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > > >> > > >contact the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > > > >> > >=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > > >> > > --
>> > > > >> > > To post a message to the list, send it to=3D3D20
>> > > > >> jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D3D3D3D20  To
>> > > > >> =3D3D3D
>> > > > >>=3D3D20
>> > > > >> > >unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message=3D20
>> > > > to=3D3D3D3D20 =3D3D3D20
>> > > >=3D20
>> > > > >> > >jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe =
>> > in=3D3D3D20
>> > > > >> > the=3D3D3D3D20  subject=3D3D3D20
>> > > > >> > >line.
>> > > > >> > > Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
>> > > > >> > >=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > > >> > > If you have any concerns about the list, post 
>> > > > >> > > received=3D3D20
>> > > > >> from=3D3D3D3D20  =3D3D3D
>> > > > >> the=3D3D3D20
>> > > > >> > >list, or the way the list is being run, do not post=3D3D20
>> > > > >> them=3D3D3D3D20  to the
>> > > > >> =3D3D3D
>> > > > >>=3D3D20
>> > > > >> > >list. Rather contact the list owner at=3D3D3D3D20  =3D3D3D
>> > > > >> jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > > > >> > >=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > > >> > >=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > > >> > > --
>> > > > >> > > No virus found in this incoming message.
>> > > > >> > > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.
>> > > > >> > > Version: 7.0.296 / Virus Database: 265.6.3 - Release =3D
>> > > Date:=3D3D3D20
>> > > > >> > 12/21/2004=3D3D3D20
>> > > > >> > >=3D3D3D3D20 =3D3D3D3D20 =3D3D3D3D20 
>> > > > >> > >3D3D3D3D20  --=3D3D3D3D20
>> >
>> > > > >> > >=
>> >  No=20
>> > > > >> > >virus=3D20
>> > > > found in this
>> > > >=3D20
>> > > > >> > >=3D3D
>> > > > > outgoing =3D3D3D
>> > > > >> message.
>> > > > >> > > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.
>> > > > >> > > Version: 7.0.296 / Virus Database: 265.6.3 - Release =3D
>> > > Date:=3D3D3D20
>> > > > >> > 12/21/2004=3D3D3D20
>> > > > >> > >=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > > >> > > --
>> > > > >> > > To post a message to the list, send it to=20
>> > > jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx  =3D
>> > > =3D3D
>> > > > > To=3D3D3D20
>> > > > >> > >unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message=3D20
>> > > > to=3D3D3D3D20 =3D3D3D20
>> > > >=3D20
>> > > > >> > >jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe =
>> > in=3D3D3D20
>> > > > >> > the=3D3D3D3D20  subject=3D3D3D20
>> > > > >> > >line.
>> > > > >> > > Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
>> > > > >> > >=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > > >> > > If you have any concerns about the list, post 
>> > > > >> > > received=3D3D20
>> > > > >> from=3D3D3D3D20  =3D3D3D
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>> > > > >> > >list, or the way the list is being run, do not post=3D3D20
>> > > > >> them=3D3D3D3D20  to the
>> > > > >> =3D3D3D
>> > > > >>=3D3D20
>> > > > >> > >list. Rather contact the list owner at=3D3D3D3D20  =3D3D3D
>> > > > >> jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > > > >> > >=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > > >> > --
>> > > > >> > To post a message to the list, send it to=3D20
>> > > > jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D3D3D20 To=3D20
>> > > > >> >unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message =
>> > to=3D3D3D20=3D20=20
>> > > > >> >jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in=20
>> > > > >> >the=3D3D3D20=3D20 subject line.  Archives located at:
>> > > > >> >//www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
>> > > > >> >=3D3D3D20
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>> > > > >> >the list, or the way the list is being run, do not post=3D20
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>> > > > >> >the list. Rather contact the list owner at=3D3D3D20=3D20=20
>> > > > >> >jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx =3D3D3D20 =3D3D3D20
>> > > > >> > --
>> > > > >> > No virus found in this incoming message.
>> > > > >> > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.
>> > > > >> > Version: 7.0.298 / Virus Database: 265.6.5 - Release =
>> > Date:=3D3D20
>> > > > >> 12/26/2004
>> > > > >> >=3D3D3D20
>> > > > >> >=3D3D3D20
>> > > > >> >=3D3D3D20
>> > > > >> >=3D3D3D20
>> > > > >> >=3D3D3D20
>> > > > >> > --=3D3D3D20
>> > > > >> > No virus found in this outgoing message.
>> > > > >> > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.
>> > > > >> > Version: 7.0.298 / Virus Database: 265.6.5 - Release =
>> > Date:=3D3D20
>> > > > >> 12/26/2004
>> > > > >> >=3D3D3D20
>> > > > >> > --
>> > > > >> > To post a message to the list, send it to=20
>> > > jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To=3D20=20
>> > > > >> >unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message =
>> > to=3D3D3D20=3D20=20
>> > > > >> >jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in=20
>> > > > >> >the=3D3D3D20=3D20 subject line.  Archives located at:
>> > > > >> >//www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
>> > > > >> >=3D3D3D20
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>> > > > >> >the list, or the way the list is being run, do not post=3D20
>> > > > them=3D3D3D20 to=3D20
>> > > > >> >the list. Rather contact the list owner at=3D3D3D20=3D20=20
>> > > > >> >jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx =3D3D3D20
>> > > > >> --
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>> > > > >>unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to=3D20=20
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>> > > > the=3D3D20  subject
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>> > > > >>line.  Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
>> > > > >>=3D3D20
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>> > > > >>Rather  contact the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx =
>> > =3D3D20=20
>> > > > >>=3D3D20
>> > > > >> --
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>> > > > >>unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to=3D3D20 
>> > > > >>=3D20
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>> > > > >>=
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>> > > > the=3D3D20  subject=3D20
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>> >
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> ------------------------------
>
> From: "chevelle" <chevelle33@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: sounds manager
> Date: Thu, 30 Dec 2004 12:07:44 -0500
>
> Listen, you did the same thing to me when I explained something to 
> someone.
> I said go to basics. You sent a stupid post saying where is the baics? 
> when
> you knew darned well where the baics is so don't talk about wasting time,
> and what is off topic. You can dish it out, but you can't take it can you!
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "david poehlman" <david.poehlman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 9:59 AM
> Subject: Re: sounds manager
>
>
>> then they should ask. this is getting off topic.  If you have a problem
>> with
>> something I post, I suggest you write me privately and perhaps we can
>> streighten it out.  I use correct terminology in my posts.  If people 
>> need
>> more specificis, I am happy to furnish them but if people just want to
>> waste
>> time, I can do that too.
>>
>> Johnnie Apple Seed
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "chevelle" <chevelle33@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 9:02 AM
>> Subject: Re: sounds manager
>>
>>
>> YOu didn't tell them how to open the default manager. Maybe they dont 
>> know
>> how to do that.
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "david poehlman" <david.poehlman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 8:44 PM
>> Subject: Re: sounds manager
>>
>>
>>>I told someone to open default configuration manager.
>>>
>>> Johnnie Apple Seed
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "chevelle" <chevelle33@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 8:33 PM
>>> Subject: Re: sounds manager
>>>
>>>
>>> Look at your won post. You told someone to choose default. How! do! you!
>>> choose! the default!
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "david poehlman" <david.poehlman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 8:22 PM
>>> Subject: Re: sounds manager
>>>
>>>
>>>> what default?
>>>>
>>>> Johnnie Apple Seed
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>> From: "chevelle" <chevelle33@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 8:19 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: sounds manager
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> That doesn't explain how you choose the default.
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>> From: "david poehlman" <david.poehlman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 7:50 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: sounds manager
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> default is classic.
>>>>>
>>>>> Johnnie Apple Seed
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>> From: "chevelle" <chevelle33@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 7:36 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: sounds manager
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> How do you choose the default, and how do you get to the speech and
>>>>> sounds
>>>>> manager?
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>> From: "david poehlman" <david.poehlman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 6:26 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: sounds manager
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> speech and sounds manager is simple but there are a lot of choices to
>>>>>> make
>>>>>> or to choose from among.  You must look through it and figure out 
>>>>>> what
>>>>>> yu
>>>>>> want to do.  It is not hard to do any of it and you must also choose
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> app
>>>>>> you intend to work with.  Choose default if you wish by opening the
>>>>>> default
>>>>>> configuration manager and choosing speech and sounds manager and
>>>>>> opening
>>>>>> it
>>>>>> up, click edit scheme button and press space, the first tab is the
>>>>>> general
>>>>>> tab and you can leave the description the way it is, ctrl+tab to the
>>>>>> other
>>>>>> pages and look through the options and things you can ghance and
>>>>>> decide
>>>>>> what
>>>>>> to change.  If you want to change the way a slider sounds for
>>>>>> instance,
>>>>>> go
>>>>>> to the bottom of the list on the first page and then tab to the group
>>>>>> of
>>>>>> four radio buttons and select the one you want the bahavior for. 
>>>>>> Play
>>>>>> sound
>>>>>> is at the bottom, and for that, you must choose a wav file with the
>>>>>> next
>>>>>> button in tab order.  Once yu are done with the settings, click ok 
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> ok
>>>>>> again if need be, close and save.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Johnnie Apple Seed
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>>> From: <ptusing@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 5:40 PM
>>>>>> Subject: sounds manager
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>> Could some one for the sake of argument go through like  the  steps 
>>>>>> in
>>>>>> order
>>>>>> for setting the sounds  manager to put a sound on to let's say
>>>>>> something useful.
>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>> I was looking for this info as in sounds manager  in the JAWS  6 help
>>>>>> topics.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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> ------------------------------
>
> From: "Catherine Turner" <catherineturner2000@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: RE: Jaws reading bold type?
> Date: Thu, 30 Dec 2004 17:08:22 -0000
>
> Hi Andrew,
>
> Are you asking how to get Adobe to put something in bold, or how to get 
> JAWS
> to detect bold?
>
> Catherine
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On
>> Behalf Of Andrew J. LaPointe
>> Sent: 29 December 2004 02:37
>> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: Jaws reading bold type?
>>
>>
>> Hi, I am using pdf majic with jaws and having the pdf converted
>> to ms word.
>> My question is does anyone know if jaws will read something that is bold
>> typed?  If so, how do I set this up.  Thank you in advance.  Andy.
>>
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>
> From: "david poehlman" <david.poehlman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: sounds manager
> Date: Thu, 30 Dec 2004 12:29:10 -0500
>
> I asked whre is basics because there is no basics.  it is called basic.
> This is different than me telling someone to do something they can do.
>
> This is the end of what I will say on the list on this topic.
>
> Johnnie Apple Seed
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "chevelle" <chevelle33@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 12:07 PM
> Subject: Re: sounds manager
>
>
> Listen, you did the same thing to me when I explained something to 
> someone.
> I said go to basics. You sent a stupid post saying where is the baics? 
> when
> you knew darned well where the baics is so don't talk about wasting time,
> and what is off topic. You can dish it out, but you can't take it can you!
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "david poehlman" <david.poehlman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 9:59 AM
> Subject: Re: sounds manager
>
>
>> then they should ask. this is getting off topic.  If you have a problem
>> with
>> something I post, I suggest you write me privately and perhaps we can
>> streighten it out.  I use correct terminology in my posts.  If people 
>> need
>> more specificis, I am happy to furnish them but if people just want to
>> waste
>> time, I can do that too.
>>
>> Johnnie Apple Seed
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "chevelle" <chevelle33@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 9:02 AM
>> Subject: Re: sounds manager
>>
>>
>> YOu didn't tell them how to open the default manager. Maybe they dont 
>> know
>> how to do that.
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "david poehlman" <david.poehlman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 8:44 PM
>> Subject: Re: sounds manager
>>
>>
>>>I told someone to open default configuration manager.
>>>
>>> Johnnie Apple Seed
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "chevelle" <chevelle33@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 8:33 PM
>>> Subject: Re: sounds manager
>>>
>>>
>>> Look at your won post. You told someone to choose default. How! do! you!
>>> choose! the default!
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "david poehlman" <david.poehlman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 8:22 PM
>>> Subject: Re: sounds manager
>>>
>>>
>>>> what default?
>>>>
>>>> Johnnie Apple Seed
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>> From: "chevelle" <chevelle33@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 8:19 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: sounds manager
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> That doesn't explain how you choose the default.
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>> From: "david poehlman" <david.poehlman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 7:50 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: sounds manager
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> default is classic.
>>>>>
>>>>> Johnnie Apple Seed
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>> From: "chevelle" <chevelle33@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 7:36 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: sounds manager
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> How do you choose the default, and how do you get to the speech and
>>>>> sounds
>>>>> manager?
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>> From: "david poehlman" <david.poehlman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 6:26 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: sounds manager
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> speech and sounds manager is simple but there are a lot of choices to
>>>>>> make
>>>>>> or to choose from among.  You must look through it and figure out 
>>>>>> what
>>>>>> yu
>>>>>> want to do.  It is not hard to do any of it and you must also choose
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> app
>>>>>> you intend to work with.  Choose default if you wish by opening the
>>>>>> default
>>>>>> configuration manager and choosing speech and sounds manager and
>>>>>> opening
>>>>>> it
>>>>>> up, click edit scheme button and press space, the first tab is the
>>>>>> general
>>>>>> tab and you can leave the description the way it is, ctrl+tab to the
>>>>>> other
>>>>>> pages and look through the options and things you can ghance and
>>>>>> decide
>>>>>> what
>>>>>> to change.  If you want to change the way a slider sounds for
>>>>>> instance,
>>>>>> go
>>>>>> to the bottom of the list on the first page and then tab to the group
>>>>>> of
>>>>>> four radio buttons and select the one you want the bahavior for. 
>>>>>> Play
>>>>>> sound
>>>>>> is at the bottom, and for that, you must choose a wav file with the
>>>>>> next
>>>>>> button in tab order.  Once yu are done with the settings, click ok 
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> ok
>>>>>> again if need be, close and save.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Johnnie Apple Seed
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>>> From: <ptusing@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 5:40 PM
>>>>>> Subject: sounds manager
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>> Could some one for the sake of argument go through like  the  steps 
>>>>>> in
>>>>>> order
>>>>>> for setting the sounds  manager to put a sound on to let's say
>>>>>> something useful.
>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>> I was looking for this info as in sounds manager  in the JAWS  6 help
>>>>>> topics.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to
>>>>>> jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject
>>>>>> line.
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>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you have any concerns about the list, post received from the list,
>>>>>> or
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> way the list is being run, do not post them to the list. Rather
>>>>>> contact
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
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>>>>>> contact the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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> ------------------------------
>
> Subject: RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re: Bug Fixes in 
> JAWS 6
> Date: Thu, 30 Dec 2004 12:44:05 -0500
> From: "Chip Orange" <Corange@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>
> Ok, then I'm surprised to hear that you could detect any difference in
> responsiveness speed between software and hardware synthesizers (always
> excluding natural voices from this discussion of course).
>
> =20
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=20
>> [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Horspool, Matthew F.
>> Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 11:05 AM
>> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re:=20
>> Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0
>>=20
>> I'm using a 2.53 GHz processor.  I think the other figure was=20
>> from an old laptop.
>> -------------------------
>> Mr. Matthew F. Horspool
>> =20
>> Send me an Electronic Mail to
>> drjaws@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> =20
>> Add
>> horspool@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> to your MSN contact list
>> =20
>> Or Visit my web site at
>> http://www.horspool.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk
>> -------------------------
>>=20
>>=20
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=20
>> [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of david poehlman
>> Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 3:23 PM
>> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: Re: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re:=20
>> Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0
>>=20
>>=20
>> What do you get then when you look at system in controll panel?
>>=20
>> Johnnie Apple Seed
>>=20
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Horspool, Matthew F." <drjaws@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 10:13 AM
>> Subject: RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re:=20
>> Bug Fixes in
>>=20
>> JAWS 6.0
>>=20
>>=20
>> Right.  I used the System Information tool and saved in plain text.
>>=20
>> -------------------------
>> Mr. Matthew F. Horspool
>>=20
>> Send me an Electronic Mail to
>> drjaws@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>=20
>> Add
>> horspool@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> to your MSN contact list
>>=20
>> Or Visit my web site at http://www.horspool.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk
>> -------------------------
>>=20
>>=20
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=20
>> [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of david poehlman
>> Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 3:11 PM
>> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: Re: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re:=20
>> Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0
>>=20
>>=20
>> matt,
>>=20
>> If you go to control panel, open system and read with the=20
>> jaws cursor or
>>=20
>> ins+b, you are told in plain english what system you have. =20
>> I'm not sure
>> what you are running to get the result you have below, but=20
>> thought this might help.
>>=20
>> Johnnie Apple Seed
>>=20
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Horspool, Matthew F." <drjaws@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 3:26 AM
>> Subject: RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re:=20
>> Bug Fixes in
>>=20
>> JAWS 6.0
>>=20
>>=20
>> OK, I thought I got it right, but when I interrogated the=20
>> system this line came up:
>> Processor: x86 Family 15 Model 2 Stepping 7 GenuineIntel ~2532 MhZ
>>=20
>> If I interpreted this line correctly I have a 2532MhZ processor!
>>=20
>> -------------------------
>> Mr. Matthew F. Horspool
>>=20
>> Send me an Electronic Mail to
>> drjaws@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>=20
>> Add
>> horspool@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> to your MSN contact list
>>=20
>> Or Visit my web site at http://www.horspool.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk
>> -------------------------
>>=20
>>=20
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=20
>> [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Chip Orange
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 5:13 PM
>> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re:=20
>> Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0
>>=20
>>=20
>> If you got that right (and it's not a typo) and your=20
>> processor speed was only 256 mhz, then I could see why=20
>> switching to a hardware synthesizer had such an improvement=20
>> for you.  That was quite a load for your system.
>>=20
>> Chip
>>=20
>> =3D20
>>=20
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D20 =20
>> [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]=20
>> >On Behalf Of Horspool, Matthew F.
>> > Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 12:05 PM
>> > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > Subject: RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re:=3D20  =
> Bug=20
>> >Fixes in JAWS 6.0 =3D20  Well I had 512MB RAM and about 256MHZ=20
>> >Processors.  Running at=3D20  once I had a copy of WinAmp with=20
>> the Audio=20
>> >stocker and=3D20  SHOUTcast plugin, Microsoft Outlook, SHOUTcast DNAS =
>
>> >(GUI),=3D20  BVentrilo and the Ventrilo Server, and a copy of JFW.
>> >This=3D20  slowed down the system quite a bit. =3D20
>> > -------------------------
>> > Mr. Matthew F. Horspool
>> > =3D20
>> > Send me an Electronic Mail to
>> > drjaws@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > =3D20
>> > Add
>> > horspool@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > to your MSN contact list
>> > =3D20
>> > Or Visit my web site at
>> > http://www.horspool.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk
>> > -------------------------
>> >=3D20
>> >=3D20
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D20
>> > [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Chip Orange
>> > Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 4:38 PM
>> > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > Subject: RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re:=3D20  =
> Bug=20
>> >Fixes in JAWS 6.0 =3D20 =3D20  Ok,  this is the first opinion which=20
>> >strongly prefers one to=3D20  another for other than=20
>> subjective reasons,=20
>> >and I appreciate it.
>> >=3D20
>> > Would you say the system you were using when you made=20
>> the=3D20  switch=20
>> >was unusually slow, short of ram, or overloaded with=3D20  processing =
>
>> >tasks?
>> >=3D20
>> > Thanks.
>> >=3D20
>> > Chip
>> >=3D20
>> > =3D3D20
>> >=3D20
>> > > -----Original Message-----
>> > > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D3D20 =3D20
>> > [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]=3D20
>> > >On Behalf Of Horspool, Matthew F.
>> > > Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 11:30 AM
>> > > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > > Subject: RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was -=20
>> Re:=3D3D20  =3D
>> Bug=3D20
>> > >Fixes in JAWS 6.0 =3D3D20  Used DECtalk ACCESS32 for about a=3D20
>> > year and then=3D20
>> > >switched to a=3D3D20  DECtalk USB for to get better broadcast=3D20
>> > clarity.  I=3D20
>> > >certainly=3D3D20  have noticed a huge difference in=20
>> responsiveness:  =3D
>> The=3D20
>> > >DEC=3D3D20  USB is faster - a lot faster!
>> > >=3D3D20
>> > > -------------------------
>> > > Mr. Matthew F. Horspool
>> > > =3D3D20
>> > > Send me an Electronic Mail to
>> > > drjaws@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > > =3D3D20
>> > > Add
>> > > horspool@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > > to your MSN contact list
>> > > =3D3D20
>> > > Or Visit my web site at  http://www.horspool.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk
>> > > -------------------------
>> > >=3D3D20
>> > >=3D3D20
>> > > -----Original Message-----
>> > > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D3D20=20
>> > >[mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of John Miller
>> > > Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 4:20 PM
>> > > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > > Subject: Re: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was -=20
>> Re:=3D3D20  =3D
>> Bug=3D20
>> > >Fixes in JAWS 6.0 =3D3D20 =3D3D20  I don't notice it if so.
>> > > ----- Original Message -----
>> > > From: "Chip Orange" <Corange@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > > Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 10:47 AM
>> > > Subject: RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was -=20
>> Re:=3D3D20  =3D
>> Bug=3D20
>> > >Fixes in =3D3D20  JAWS 6.0 =3D3D20 =3D3D20
>> > > > Yes; and they do use some processor time.  The question=20
>> is that=3D20
>>=20
>> > > > on=3D3D20 todays systems, which usually have plenty of =3D
>> processor=3D3D20
>> > > speed and RAM,=3D3D20
>> > > > does that really make any difference?
>> > > >
>> > > > Now, I know that it does from reports on AT&T Natural=20
>> > > > Voices=3D3D20=3D20 specifically, but I was wondering about=20
>> Eloquence.
>> > > >
>> > > > Thanks.
>> > > >
>> > > > Chip
>> > > >
>> > > > =3D3D3D20
>> > > >
>> > > >> -----Original Message-----
>> > > >> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D3D3D20 =3D3D20
>> > > [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]=3D3D20
>> > > >>On Behalf Of Flor Lynch
>> > > >> Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2004 9:00 PM
>> > > >> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > > >> Subject: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re:=3D3D20
>> > > Bug=3D3D3D20  Fixes
>> > >=3D3D20
>> > > >>in JAWS 6.0 =3D3D3D20
>> > > >> Software synths take up more RAM than hardware ones do.
>> > > >> ----- Original Message -----
>> > > >> From: "Chip Orange" <Corange@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > > >> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > > >> Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2004 2:22 PM
>> > > >> Subject: RE: Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0 =3D3D3D20 =3D3D3D20  Well, =
> no=20
>> > > >>argument with your first point, it is more=3D3D20
>> > > difficult to have =3D3D20
>> > > >>all of the sound coming out of one source; but, when you=3D3D20
>> > > need to use =3D3D20
>> > > >>headphones so as not to disturb someone else, it's also =3D
>> more=3D3D3D20=3D20
>> > > >>=3D3D20 convenient. =3D3D3D20  As for your second, that =
> just=3D20
>> > seems to come=3D20
>> > > >>down to personal=3D3D3D20
>> > =3D3D20
>> > > >>preference  as it doesn't bother me a bit.
>> > > >>=3D3D3D20
>> > > >> There is one which you didn't mention, but which I've=3D3D20
>> > > always wondered =3D3D20
>> > > >>about, and that's how much of a load does Eloquence place=3D3D20
>> > > on=3D3D3D20  your=3D3D20
>> > > >>system  by having the software synth as compared to =
> sending=3D3D20
>> > > the text=3D3D20
>> > > >>to be  spoken out of the serial port?  Anyone have any =
> facts=3D20=20
>> > > >>along=3D3D20 this
>> > > line?
>> > > >>=3D3D3D20
>> > > >> Thanks.
>> > > >>=3D3D3D20
>> > > >> Chip
>> > > >>=3D3D3D20
>> > > >> =3D3D3D3D20
>> > > >>=3D3D3D20
>> > > >> > -----Original Message-----
>> > > >> > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D3D3D3D20=3D3D20
>> > > >> >[mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Kerri
>> > > >> > Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2004 2:04 AM
>> > > >> > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > > >> > Subject: Re: Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0 =3D3D3D3D20  Hello =20
>> Chip. I=3D20
>>=20
>> > > >> >despise software synthesizers mainly=3D3D20
>> > > because=3D3D3D3D20 if=3D3D20
>> > > >> >you are required to listen to other media, I find it=3D20
>> > to=3D3D3D3D20=3D3D20=3D20
>> > > >> >difficult to with a software synthesizer coming through=3D20
>> > the=3D3D3D3D20
>> >=3D20
>> > > >> >=3D3D
>> >=3D20
>> > > >> >same speakers. I also dislike elloquence's voice,=20
>> *all of them*
>> > > >> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > > >> > From: "Chip Orange" <Corange@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > > >> > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > > >> > Sent: Monday, December 27, 2004 12:02 PM
>> > > >> > Subject: RE: Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0 =3D3D3D3D20=20
>> =3D3D3D3D20  I'm=3D20=20
>> > > >> >interested in hearing why, as I use a DT express at=3D3D20
>> > > work,=3D3D3D3D20
>> > >=3D3D20
>> > > >> >and eloquence at home, and really haven't felt there's=3D20
>> > much=3D3D3D3D20
>> >=3D20
>> > > >> >=3D3D
>> >=3D20
>> > > >> >difference.  Perhaps there's just something I'm=3D20
>> > missing? =3D3D3D3D20 =3D20
>> > > >> >Thanks.
>> > > >> >=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > >> > Chip
>> > > >> >=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > >> > =3D3D3D3D3D20
>> > > >> >=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > >> > > -----Original Message-----
>> > > >> > > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D3D3D3D3D20=3D3D20
>> > > >> > >[mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Kerri
>> > > >> > > Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2004 12:17 AM
>> > > >> > > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > > >> > > Subject: Re: Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0 =3D3D3D3D3D20 =20
>> Chris, I=3D3D20
>> > > vehemently=3D3D20
>> > > >> > >despise software synthesizers hence=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > >> > my=3D3D3D3D3D20  dectalk=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > >> > >use and this is the only version that has been =3D3D
>> > rather=3D3D3D3D3D20=3D3D3D20
>> > > >>  sluggish.
>> > > >> > > ----- Original Message -----
>> > > >> > > From: "Chris Skarstad" <toonhead5@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > > >> > > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > > >> > > Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2004 4:15 PM
>> > > >> > > Subject: Re: Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0 =3D3D3D3D3D20=20
>> =3D3D3D3D3D20 =3D
>> =3D3D20
>> > > man I guess=3D3D20
>> > > >> > >I'm very lucky then. This version actually runs =3D3D3D
>> > > > a=3D3D3D3D3D20
>> > > >> =3D3D3D3D20
>> > > >> > >little faster on my system than 5.10 did. Then =
> again=3D3D3D20
>> > > >> I'm=3D3D3D3D3D20  using
>> > > >> =3D3D3D3D
>> > > >> a=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > >> > >hardware synthesizer which is probably the=3D20
>> > reason.=3D3D3D3D3D20  =3D3D3D
>> > > > Never=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > >> > did like=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > >> > >software speech and never will based on =
> what=3D3D3D3D3D20=3D20
>> >  I've=3D3D3D20
>> > > >> seen.  By the
>> > > >> =3D3D3D3D
>> > > >>=3D3D3D20
>> > > >> > >way, the murge feature is there. go to=3D3D3D3D3D20  =
> your=3D20
>> > jaws=3D3D3D20
>> > > >> window with =3D3D3D3D
>> > > >> alt=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > >> > >plus j, press alt u for utilities,=3D3D3D3D3D20  and it's =
> =3D
>> in=3D3D3D20
>> > > >> there. or simply
>> > > >> =3D3D3D3D
>> > > >>=3D3D3D20
>> > > >> > >bring up the context menu if=3D3D3D3D3D20  you're =
> running=3D20
>> > jaws in =3D3D
>> > =3D3D3D
>> > > > the=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > >> > system tray=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > >> > >and go to utilities=3D3D3D3D3D20  and the murge utility=3D20
>> > is there.=3D3D20
>> >=3D20
>> > > >> > >=3D3D3D3D3D20  At 04:29 PM 12/21/2004, you wrote:
>> > > >> > > >Hay, you mean, they haven't fixed any right? I'm=3D3D20
>> > > sorry, I=3D3D3D3D3D20
>> > > >> > > just couldn't=3D3D3D3D3D20
>> > > >> > > >resist. In truth, this has been the worst version =3D
>> I've=3D3D3D20
>> > > >> had the=3D3D3D3D3D20
>> > > >> =3D3D3D3D
>> > > >>=3D3D3D20
>> > > >> > > >misfortune to deal with in a long while. It runs=3D3D3D20
>> > > >> terribley slow,=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > >> > > >I'm=3D3D3D3D3D20 getting false attachments, no merge=3D20
>> > feature=3D3D3D20
>> > > >> anywhere. I=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > >> > > >love=3D3D3D3D3D20
>> > > >> > > spending=3D3D3D3D3D20
>> > > >> > > >money on this "improved" product. Sorry, I'm=20
>> being a grinch.
>> > > >> > > >----- Original Message -----
>> > > >> > > >From: "RJ" <rjf1@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > > >> > > >To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > > >> > > >Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2004 2:16 PM
>> > > >> > > >Subject: Re: Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0
>> > > >> > > >
>> > > >> > > >
>> > > >> > > >You are looking right, there just isn't any bugs.=3D3D20
>> > > Smiling here.
>> > > >> > > >----- Original Message -----
>> > > >> > > >From: "Margaret Thomas" <iluvtoread@xxxxxxx>
>> > > >> > > >To: "jfw" <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > > >> > > >Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2004 4:15 PM
>> > > >> > > >Subject: Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0
>> > > >> > > >
>> > > >> > > >
>> > > >> > > > > Good Afternoon,
>> > > >> > > > >
>> > > >> > > > >     I had a migraine when JAWS 6.0 was released =3D
>> and=3D3D3D20
>> > > >> am trying=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > >> > > > > to=3D3D3D3D3D20 catch up with list mail before=3D3D20
>> > > installing the new =3D3D3D
>> > > > =3D3D3D3D
>> > > >> release.
>> > > >> > > > >
>> > > >> > > > >     I've looked over the What's New section for=20
>> > > >> > > > > 6.0=3D3D20=3D20 and=3D3D3D3D3D20
>> > > >> > > could swear=3D3D3D3D3D20
>> > > >> > > > > that there used to be a section on bug fixes, but I'm =
> =3D
>> =3D3D3D
>> > > > not=3D3D3D3D3D20
>> > > >> > > finding it=3D3D3D3D3D20
>> > > >> > > > > for this version.  Am I having another senior moment, =
> =3D
>> =3D3D3D
>> > > > or=3D3D3D3D3D20
>> > > >> > > did FS not=3D3D3D3D3D20
>> > > >> > > > > do it this time, or am I looking in the wrong=3D3D20
>> > > place on=3D3D3D3D3D20
>> > > >> > > the FS site? =3D3D3D3D3D20
>> > > >> > > > > I've been looking at:
>> > > >> > > > >
>> > > >> > > > >
>> > > >> > >=3D20
>> > >http://www.freedomscientific.com/fs_products/software_jaws60f
>> > > >> > > ea.asp#JAW
>> > > >> > > >S_Features
>> > > >> > > > >
>> > > >> > > > >     Thanks,
>> > > >> > > > > Margaret
>> > > >> > > > > iluvtoread@xxxxxxx
>> > > >> > > > >
>> > > >> > > > > --
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>
> From: "Graham Stoodley" <stoodlg@xxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: sounds manager
> Date: Thu, 30 Dec 2004 12:44:08 -0500
>
> Stop carrying out your personal grievances on this list.  Non of the rest 
> of
> us cares.  Both of you are being remarkably childish, and I am tired of 
> your
> wasting my time with your recriminations.
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "chevelle" <chevelle33@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 12:07 PM
> Subject: Re: sounds manager
>
>
>> Listen, you did the same thing to me when I explained something to
>> someone.
>> I said go to basics. You sent a stupid post saying where is the baics?
>> when
>> you knew darned well where the baics is so don't talk about wasting time,
>> and what is off topic. You can dish it out, but you can't take it can 
>> you!
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "david poehlman" <david.poehlman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 9:59 AM
>> Subject: Re: sounds manager
>>
>>
>>> then they should ask. this is getting off topic.  If you have a problem
>>> with
>>> something I post, I suggest you write me privately and perhaps we can
>>> streighten it out.  I use correct terminology in my posts.  If people
>>> need
>>> more specificis, I am happy to furnish them but if people just want to
>>> waste
>>> time, I can do that too.
>>>
>>> Johnnie Apple Seed
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "chevelle" <chevelle33@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 9:02 AM
>>> Subject: Re: sounds manager
>>>
>>>
>>> YOu didn't tell them how to open the default manager. Maybe they dont
>>> know
>>> how to do that.
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "david poehlman" <david.poehlman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 8:44 PM
>>> Subject: Re: sounds manager
>>>
>>>
>>>>I told someone to open default configuration manager.
>>>>
>>>> Johnnie Apple Seed
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>> From: "chevelle" <chevelle33@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 8:33 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: sounds manager
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Look at your won post. You told someone to choose default. How! do! 
>>>> you!
>>>> choose! the default!
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>> From: "david poehlman" <david.poehlman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 8:22 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: sounds manager
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> what default?
>>>>>
>>>>> Johnnie Apple Seed
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>> From: "chevelle" <chevelle33@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 8:19 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: sounds manager
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> That doesn't explain how you choose the default.
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>> From: "david poehlman" <david.poehlman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 7:50 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: sounds manager
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> default is classic.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Johnnie Apple Seed
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>>> From: "chevelle" <chevelle33@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 7:36 PM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: sounds manager
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> How do you choose the default, and how do you get to the speech and
>>>>>> sounds
>>>>>> manager?
>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>>> From: "david poehlman" <david.poehlman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 6:26 PM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: sounds manager
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> speech and sounds manager is simple but there are a lot of choices 
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> make
>>>>>>> or to choose from among.  You must look through it and figure out
>>>>>>> what
>>>>>>> yu
>>>>>>> want to do.  It is not hard to do any of it and you must also choose
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> app
>>>>>>> you intend to work with.  Choose default if you wish by opening the
>>>>>>> default
>>>>>>> configuration manager and choosing speech and sounds manager and
>>>>>>> opening
>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>> up, click edit scheme button and press space, the first tab is the
>>>>>>> general
>>>>>>> tab and you can leave the description the way it is, ctrl+tab to the
>>>>>>> other
>>>>>>> pages and look through the options and things you can ghance and
>>>>>>> decide
>>>>>>> what
>>>>>>> to change.  If you want to change the way a slider sounds for
>>>>>>> instance,
>>>>>>> go
>>>>>>> to the bottom of the list on the first page and then tab to the 
>>>>>>> group
>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>> four radio buttons and select the one you want the bahavior for.
>>>>>>> Play
>>>>>>> sound
>>>>>>> is at the bottom, and for that, you must choose a wav file with the
>>>>>>> next
>>>>>>> button in tab order.  Once yu are done with the settings, click ok
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> ok
>>>>>>> again if need be, close and save.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Johnnie Apple Seed
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>>>> From: <ptusing@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 5:40 PM
>>>>>>> Subject: sounds manager
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>> Could some one for the sake of argument go through like  the  steps
>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>> order
>>>>>>> for setting the sounds  manager to put a sound on to let's say
>>>>>>> something useful.
>>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>>> I was looking for this info as in sounds manager  in the JAWS  6 
>>>>>>> help
>>>>>>> topics.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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>
> ------------------------------
>
> Subject: RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re: Bug Fixes in 
> JAWS 6
> Date: Thu, 30 Dec 2004 12:47:16 -0500
> From: "Chip Orange" <Corange@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>
> David,
>
> Some versions of Intel processors will start to slow themselves down if
> they detect that they're getting too warm (in order to generate less
> heat, which evidently is related to their clock speed).  This could
> possibly account for it as he did list some information about the
> "stepping", and the name for this technology from Intel is Speed Step.
> I didn't realize it was being deployed in desktop systems, but it makes
> sense, I just hadn't realized it had gotten cheap enough.
>
> Chip
>
> =20
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=20
>> [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Horspool, Matthew F.
>> Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 11:46 AM
>> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re:=20
>> Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0
>>=20
>> Well that's what I was told
>>=20
>> -------------------------
>> Mr. Matthew F. Horspool
>> =20
>> Send me an Electronic Mail to
>> drjaws@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> =20
>> Add
>> horspool@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> to your MSN contact list
>> =20
>> Or Visit my web site at
>> http://www.horspool.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk
>> -------------------------
>>=20
>>=20
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=20
>> [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of david poehlman
>> Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 4:38 PM
>> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: Re: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re:=20
>> Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0
>>=20
>>=20
>> that's an odd number.
>>=20
>> Johnnie Apple Seed
>>=20
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Horspool, Matthew F." <drjaws@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 11:04 AM
>> Subject: RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re:=20
>> Bug Fixes in
>>=20
>> JAWS 6.0
>>=20
>>=20
>> I'm using a 2.53 GHz processor.  I think the other figure was=20
>> from an old laptop.
>> -------------------------
>> Mr. Matthew F. Horspool
>>=20
>> Send me an Electronic Mail to
>> drjaws@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>=20
>> Add
>> horspool@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> to your MSN contact list
>>=20
>> Or Visit my web site at http://www.horspool.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk
>> -------------------------
>>=20
>>=20
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=20
>> [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of david poehlman
>> Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 3:23 PM
>> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: Re: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re:=20
>> Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0
>>=20
>>=20
>> What do you get then when you look at system in controll panel?
>>=20
>> Johnnie Apple Seed
>>=20
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Horspool, Matthew F." <drjaws@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 10:13 AM
>> Subject: RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re:=20
>> Bug Fixes in
>>=20
>> JAWS 6.0
>>=20
>>=20
>> Right.  I used the System Information tool and saved in plain text.
>>=20
>> -------------------------
>> Mr. Matthew F. Horspool
>>=20
>> Send me an Electronic Mail to
>> drjaws@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>=20
>> Add
>> horspool@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> to your MSN contact list
>>=20
>> Or Visit my web site at http://www.horspool.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk
>> -------------------------
>>=20
>>=20
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=20
>> [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of david poehlman
>> Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 3:11 PM
>> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: Re: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re:=20
>> Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0
>>=20
>>=20
>> matt,
>>=20
>> If you go to control panel, open system and read with the=20
>> jaws cursor or
>>=20
>> ins+b, you are told in plain english what system you have. =20
>> I'm not sure
>> what you are running to get the result you have below, but=20
>> thought this might help.
>>=20
>> Johnnie Apple Seed
>>=20
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Horspool, Matthew F." <drjaws@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 3:26 AM
>> Subject: RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re:=20
>> Bug Fixes in
>>=20
>> JAWS 6.0
>>=20
>>=20
>> OK, I thought I got it right, but when I interrogated the=20
>> system this line came up:
>> Processor: x86 Family 15 Model 2 Stepping 7 GenuineIntel ~2532 MhZ
>>=20
>> If I interpreted this line correctly I have a 2532MhZ processor!
>>=20
>> -------------------------
>> Mr. Matthew F. Horspool
>>=20
>> Send me an Electronic Mail to
>> drjaws@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>=20
>> Add
>> horspool@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> to your MSN contact list
>>=20
>> Or Visit my web site at http://www.horspool.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk
>> -------------------------
>>=20
>>=20
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=20
>> [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Chip Orange
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 5:13 PM
>> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re:=20
>> Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0
>>=20
>>=20
>> If you got that right (and it's not a typo) and your=20
>> processor speed was only 256 mhz, then I could see why=20
>> switching to a hardware synthesizer had such an improvement=20
>> for you.  That was quite a load for your system.
>>=20
>> Chip
>>=20
>> =3D20
>>=20
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D20 =20
>> [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]=20
>> >On Behalf Of Horspool, Matthew F.
>> > Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 12:05 PM
>> > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > Subject: RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re:=3D20  =
> Bug=20
>> >Fixes in JAWS 6.0 =3D20  Well I had 512MB RAM and about 256MHZ=20
>> >Processors.  Running at=3D20  once I had a copy of WinAmp with=20
>> the Audio=20
>> >stocker and=3D20  SHOUTcast plugin, Microsoft Outlook, SHOUTcast DNAS =
>
>> >(GUI),=3D20  BVentrilo and the Ventrilo Server, and a copy of JFW.
>> >This=3D20  slowed down the system quite a bit. =3D20
>> > -------------------------
>> > Mr. Matthew F. Horspool
>> > =3D20
>> > Send me an Electronic Mail to
>> > drjaws@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > =3D20
>> > Add
>> > horspool@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > to your MSN contact list
>> > =3D20
>> > Or Visit my web site at  http://www.horspool.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk
>> > -------------------------
>> >=3D20
>> >=3D20
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D20
>> > [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Chip Orange
>> > Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 4:38 PM
>> > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > Subject: RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re:=3D20  =
> Bug=20
>> >Fixes in JAWS 6.0 =3D20 =3D20  Ok,  this is the first opinion which=20
>> >strongly prefers one to=3D20  another for other than=20
>> subjective reasons,=20
>> >and I appreciate it.
>> >=3D20
>> > Would you say the system you were using when you made=20
>> the=3D20  switch=20
>> >was unusually slow, short of ram, or overloaded with=3D20  processing =
>
>> >tasks?
>> >=3D20
>> > Thanks.
>> >=3D20
>> > Chip
>> >=3D20
>> > =3D3D20
>> >=3D20
>> > > -----Original Message-----
>> > > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D3D20 =3D20
>> > [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]=3D20
>> > >On Behalf Of Horspool, Matthew F.
>> > > Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 11:30 AM
>> > > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > > Subject: RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was -=20
>> Re:=3D3D20  =3D
>> Bug=3D20
>> > >Fixes in JAWS 6.0 =3D3D20  Used DECtalk ACCESS32 for about a=3D20
>> > year and then=3D20
>> > >switched to a=3D3D20  DECtalk USB for to get better broadcast=3D20
>> > clarity.  I=3D20
>> > >certainly=3D3D20  have noticed a huge difference in=20
>> responsiveness:  =3D
>> The=3D20
>> > >DEC=3D3D20  USB is faster - a lot faster!
>> > >=3D3D20
>> > > -------------------------
>> > > Mr. Matthew F. Horspool
>> > > =3D3D20
>> > > Send me an Electronic Mail to
>> > > drjaws@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > > =3D3D20
>> > > Add
>> > > horspool@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > > to your MSN contact list
>> > > =3D3D20
>> > > Or Visit my web site at  http://www.horspool.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk
>> > > -------------------------
>> > >=3D3D20
>> > >=3D3D20
>> > > -----Original Message-----
>> > > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D3D20=20
>> > >[mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of John Miller
>> > > Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 4:20 PM
>> > > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > > Subject: Re: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was -=20
>> Re:=3D3D20  =3D
>> Bug=3D20
>> > >Fixes in JAWS 6.0 =3D3D20 =3D3D20  I don't notice it if so.
>> > > ----- Original Message -----
>> > > From: "Chip Orange" <Corange@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > > Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 10:47 AM
>> > > Subject: RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was -=20
>> Re:=3D3D20  =3D
>> Bug=3D20
>> > >Fixes in =3D3D20  JAWS 6.0 =3D3D20 =3D3D20
>> > > > Yes; and they do use some processor time.  The question=20
>> is that=3D20
>>=20
>> > > > on=3D3D20 todays systems, which usually have plenty of =3D
>> processor=3D3D20
>> > > speed and RAM,=3D3D20
>> > > > does that really make any difference?
>> > > >
>> > > > Now, I know that it does from reports on AT&T Natural=20
>> > > > Voices=3D3D20=3D20 specifically, but I was wondering about=20
>> Eloquence.
>> > > >
>> > > > Thanks.
>> > > >
>> > > > Chip
>> > > >
>> > > > =3D3D3D20
>> > > >
>> > > >> -----Original Message-----
>> > > >> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D3D3D20 =3D3D20
>> > > [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]=3D3D20
>> > > >>On Behalf Of Flor Lynch
>> > > >> Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2004 9:00 PM
>> > > >> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > > >> Subject: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re:=3D3D20
>> > > Bug=3D3D3D20  Fixes
>> > >=3D3D20
>> > > >>in JAWS 6.0 =3D3D3D20
>> > > >> Software synths take up more RAM than hardware ones do.
>> > > >> ----- Original Message -----
>> > > >> From: "Chip Orange" <Corange@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > > >> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > > >> Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2004 2:22 PM
>> > > >> Subject: RE: Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0 =3D3D3D20 =3D3D3D20  Well, =
> no=20
>> > > >>argument with your first point, it is more=3D3D20
>> > > difficult to have =3D3D20
>> > > >>all of the sound coming out of one source; but, when you=3D3D20
>> > > need to use =3D3D20
>> > > >>headphones so as not to disturb someone else, it's also =3D
>> more=3D3D3D20=3D20
>> > > >>=3D3D20 convenient. =3D3D3D20  As for your second, that =
> just=3D20
>> > seems to come=3D20
>> > > >>down to personal=3D3D3D20
>> > =3D3D20
>> > > >>preference  as it doesn't bother me a bit.
>> > > >>=3D3D3D20
>> > > >> There is one which you didn't mention, but which I've=3D3D20
>> > > always wondered =3D3D20
>> > > >>about, and that's how much of a load does Eloquence place=3D3D20
>> > > on=3D3D3D20  your=3D3D20
>> > > >>system  by having the software synth as compared to =
> sending=3D3D20
>> > > the text=3D3D20
>> > > >>to be  spoken out of the serial port?  Anyone have any =
> facts=3D20=20
>> > > >>along=3D3D20 this
>> > > line?
>> > > >>=3D3D3D20
>> > > >> Thanks.
>> > > >>=3D3D3D20
>> > > >> Chip
>> > > >>=3D3D3D20
>> > > >> =3D3D3D3D20
>> > > >>=3D3D3D20
>> > > >> > -----Original Message-----
>> > > >> > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D3D3D3D20=3D3D20
>> > > >> >[mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Kerri
>> > > >> > Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2004 2:04 AM
>> > > >> > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > > >> > Subject: Re: Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0 =3D3D3D3D20  Hello =20
>> Chip. I=3D20
>>=20
>> > > >> >despise software synthesizers mainly=3D3D20
>> > > because=3D3D3D3D20 if=3D3D20
>> > > >> >you are required to listen to other media, I find it=3D20
>> > to=3D3D3D3D20=3D3D20=3D20
>> > > >> >difficult to with a software synthesizer coming through=3D20
>> > the=3D3D3D3D20
>> >=3D20
>> > > >> >=3D3D
>> >=3D20
>> > > >> >same speakers. I also dislike elloquence's voice,=20
>> *all of them*
>> > > >> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > > >> > From: "Chip Orange" <Corange@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > > >> > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > > >> > Sent: Monday, December 27, 2004 12:02 PM
>> > > >> > Subject: RE: Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0 =3D3D3D3D20=20
>> =3D3D3D3D20  I'm=3D20=20
>> > > >> >interested in hearing why, as I use a DT express at=3D3D20
>> > > work,=3D3D3D3D20
>> > >=3D3D20
>> > > >> >and eloquence at home, and really haven't felt there's=3D20
>> > much=3D3D3D3D20
>> >=3D20
>> > > >> >=3D3D
>> >=3D20
>> > > >> >difference.  Perhaps there's just something I'm=3D20
>> > missing? =3D3D3D3D20 =3D20
>> > > >> >Thanks.
>> > > >> >=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > >> > Chip
>> > > >> >=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > >> > =3D3D3D3D3D20
>> > > >> >=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > >> > > -----Original Message-----
>> > > >> > > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D3D3D3D3D20=3D3D20
>> > > >> > >[mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Kerri
>> > > >> > > Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2004 12:17 AM
>> > > >> > > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > > >> > > Subject: Re: Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0 =3D3D3D3D3D20 =20
>> Chris, I=3D3D20
>> > > vehemently=3D3D20
>> > > >> > >despise software synthesizers hence=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > >> > my=3D3D3D3D3D20  dectalk=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > >> > >use and this is the only version that has been =3D3D
>> > rather=3D3D3D3D3D20=3D3D3D20
>> > > >>  sluggish.
>> > > >> > > ----- Original Message -----
>> > > >> > > From: "Chris Skarstad" <toonhead5@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > > >> > > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > > >> > > Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2004 4:15 PM
>> > > >> > > Subject: Re: Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0 =3D3D3D3D3D20=20
>> =3D3D3D3D3D20 =3D
>> =3D3D20
>> > > man I guess=3D3D20
>> > > >> > >I'm very lucky then. This version actually runs =3D3D3D
>> > > > a=3D3D3D3D3D20
>> > > >> =3D3D3D3D20
>> > > >> > >little faster on my system than 5.10 did. Then =
> again=3D3D3D20
>> > > >> I'm=3D3D3D3D3D20  using
>> > > >> =3D3D3D3D
>> > > >> a=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > >> > >hardware synthesizer which is probably the=3D20
>> > reason.=3D3D3D3D3D20  =3D3D3D
>> > > > Never=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > >> > did like=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > >> > >software speech and never will based on =
> what=3D3D3D3D3D20=3D20
>> >  I've=3D3D3D20
>> > > >> seen.  By the
>> > > >> =3D3D3D3D
>> > > >>=3D3D3D20
>> > > >> > >way, the murge feature is there. go to=3D3D3D3D3D20  =
> your=3D20
>> > jaws=3D3D3D20
>> > > >> window with =3D3D3D3D
>> > > >> alt=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > >> > >plus j, press alt u for utilities,=3D3D3D3D3D20  and it's =
> =3D
>> in=3D3D3D20
>> > > >> there. or simply
>> > > >> =3D3D3D3D
>> > > >>=3D3D3D20
>> > > >> > >bring up the context menu if=3D3D3D3D3D20  you're =
> running=3D20
>> > jaws in =3D3D
>> > =3D3D3D
>> > > > the=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > >> > system tray=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > >> > >and go to utilities=3D3D3D3D3D20  and the murge utility=3D20
>> > is there.=3D3D20
>> >=3D20
>> > > >> > >=3D3D3D3D3D20  At 04:29 PM 12/21/2004, you wrote:
>> > > >> > > >Hay, you mean, they haven't fixed any right? I'm=3D3D20
>> > > sorry, I=3D3D3D3D3D20
>> > > >> > > just couldn't=3D3D3D3D3D20
>> > > >> > > >resist. In truth, this has been the worst version =3D
>> I've=3D3D3D20
>> > > >> had the=3D3D3D3D3D20
>> > > >> =3D3D3D3D
>> > > >>=3D3D3D20
>> > > >> > > >misfortune to deal with in a long while. It runs=3D3D3D20
>> > > >> terribley slow,=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > >> > > >I'm=3D3D3D3D3D20 getting false attachments, no merge=3D20
>> > feature=3D3D3D20
>> > > >> anywhere. I=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > >> > > >love=3D3D3D3D3D20
>> > > >> > > spending=3D3D3D3D3D20
>> > > >> > > >money on this "improved" product. Sorry, I'm=20
>> being a grinch.
>> > > >> > > >----- Original Message -----
>> > > >> > > >From: "RJ" <rjf1@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > > >> > > >To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > > >> > > >Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2004 2:16 PM
>> > > >> > > >Subject: Re: Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0
>> > > >> > > >
>> > > >> > > >
>> > > >> > > >You are looking right, there just isn't any bugs.=3D3D20
>> > > Smiling here.
>> > > >> > > >----- Original Message -----
>> > > >> > > >From: "Margaret Thomas" <iluvtoread@xxxxxxx>
>> > > >> > > >To: "jfw" <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > > >> > > >Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2004 4:15 PM
>> > > >> > > >Subject: Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0
>> > > >> > > >
>> > > >> > > >
>> > > >> > > > > Good Afternoon,
>> > > >> > > > >
>> > > >> > > > >     I had a migraine when JAWS 6.0 was released =3D
>> and=3D3D3D20
>> > > >> am trying=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > >> > > > > to=3D3D3D3D3D20 catch up with list mail before=3D3D20
>> > > installing the new =3D3D3D
>> > > > =3D3D3D3D
>> > > >> release.
>> > > >> > > > >
>> > > >> > > > >     I've looked over the What's New section for=20
>> > > >> > > > > 6.0=3D3D20=3D20 and=3D3D3D3D3D20
>> > > >> > > could swear=3D3D3D3D3D20
>> > > >> > > > > that there used to be a section on bug fixes, but I'm =
> =3D
>> =3D3D3D
>> > > > not=3D3D3D3D3D20
>> > > >> > > finding it=3D3D3D3D3D20
>> > > >> > > > > for this version.  Am I having another senior moment, =
> =3D
>> =3D3D3D
>> > > > or=3D3D3D3D3D20
>> > > >> > > did FS not=3D3D3D3D3D20
>> > > >> > > > > do it this time, or am I looking in the wrong=3D3D20
>> > > place on=3D3D3D3D3D20
>> > > >> > > the FS site? =3D3D3D3D3D20
>> > > >> > > > > I've been looking at:
>> > > >> > > > >
>> > > >> > > > >
>> > > >> > >=3D20
>> > >http://www.freedomscientific.com/fs_products/software_jaws60f
>> > > >> > > ea.asp#JAW
>> > > >> > > >S_Features
>> > > >> > > > >
>> > > >> > > > >     Thanks,
>> > > >> > > > > Margaret
>> > > >> > > > > iluvtoread@xxxxxxx
>> > > >> > > > >
>> > > >> > > > > --
>> > > >> > > > > To post a message to the list, send it to=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > >> > jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To=3D3D3D3D3D20=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > >> > > > > unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to
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>> > > >> > > >in=3D3D20=3D20 the=3D3D3D3D3D20
>> > > >> > > subject line.
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>> > > >> > from the=3D3D3D3D3D20=3D3D3D3D20
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>> > > >> > > >the=3D3D20=3D20 list.=3D3D3D3D20 Rather=3D3D3D3D3D20 =
> contact the=20
>> > > >> > > >list owner =3D
>> at=3D3D20=3D20
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>> > > >> > > > >
>> > > >> > > >
>> > > >> > > >--
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>> > > >> jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To=3D3D3D3D3D20
>> > > >> =3D3D3D3D
>> > > >>=3D3D3D20
>> > > >> > > >unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a=20
>> message=3D3D20=3D20=20
>> > > >> > > >to=3D3D3D3D3D20=3D3D3D3D20 jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx =
> with=3D20
>> > the word=3D3D20=3D20
>> > > >> > > >unsubscribe in the=3D3D3D3D3D20
>> > > >> > > subject line.
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>> received =3D3D3D
>> > > > from=3D3D3D3D3D20
>> > > >> > > the list,=3D3D3D3D3D20
>> > > >> > > >or the way the list is being run, do not post them =
> to=3D3D20
>> > > the=3D3D3D3D3D20
>> > > >> > > list. Rather=3D3D3D3D3D20
>> > > >> > > >contact the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > > >> > > >
>> > > >> > > >
>> > > >> > > >--
>> > > >> > > >No virus found in this incoming message.
>> > > >> > > >Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.
>> > > >> > > >Version: 7.0.296 / Virus Database: 265.6.3 - =
> Release=3D3D20
>> > > Date:=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > >> > 12/21/2004
>> > > >> > > >
>> > > >> > > >
>> > > >> > > >
>> > > >> > > >
>> > > >> > > >--
>> > > >> > > >No virus found in this outgoing message.
>> > > >> > > >Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.
>> > > >> > > >Version: 7.0.296 / Virus Database: 265.6.3 - =
> Release=3D3D20
>> > > Date:=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > >> > 12/21/2004
>> > > >> > > >
>> > > >> > > >--
>> > > >> > > >To post a message to the list, send it to=3D3D3D20
>> > > >> jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To=3D3D3D3D3D20
>> > > >> =3D3D3D3D
>> > > >>=3D3D3D20
>> > > >> > > >unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a=20
>> message=3D3D20=3D20=20
>> > > >> > > >to=3D3D3D3D3D20=3D3D3D3D20 jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx =
> with=3D20
>> > the word=3D3D20=3D20
>> > > >> > > >unsubscribe in the=3D3D3D3D3D20
>> > > >> > > subject line.
>> > > >> > > >Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
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>> received =3D3D3D
>> > > > from=3D3D3D3D3D20
>> > > >> > > the list,=3D3D3D3D3D20
>> > > >> > > >or the way the list is being run, do not post them =
> to=3D3D20
>> > > the=3D3D3D3D3D20
>> > > >> > > list. Rather=3D3D3D3D3D20
>> > > >> > > >contact the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > > >> > >=3D3D3D3D3D20
>> > > >> > > --
>> > > >> > > To post a message to the list, send it to=3D3D3D20
>> > > >> jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D3D3D3D3D20  To
>> > > >> =3D3D3D3D
>> > > >>=3D3D3D20
>> > > >> > >unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message=3D3D20
>> > > to=3D3D3D3D3D20 =3D3D3D3D20
>> > >=3D3D20
>> > > >> > >jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe =3D
>> in=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > >> > the=3D3D3D3D3D20  subject=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > >> > >line.
>> > > >> > > Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
>> > > >> > >=3D3D3D3D3D20
>> > > >> > > If you have any concerns about the list, post=20
>> received=3D3D3D20
>> > > >> from=3D3D3D3D3D20  =3D3D3D3D
>> > > >> the=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > >> > >list, or the way the list is being run, do not post=3D3D3D20
>> > > >> them=3D3D3D3D3D20  to the
>> > > >> =3D3D3D3D
>> > > >>=3D3D3D20
>> > > >> > >list. Rather contact the list owner at=3D3D3D3D3D20  =
> =3D3D3D3D
>> > > >> jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > > >> > >=3D3D3D3D3D20
>> > > >> > >=3D3D3D3D3D20
>> > > >> > > --
>> > > >> > > No virus found in this incoming message.
>> > > >> > > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.
>> > > >> > > Version: 7.0.296 / Virus Database: 265.6.3 - Release =3D3D
>> > Date:=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > >> > 12/21/2004=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > >> > >=3D3D3D3D3D20 =3D3D3D3D3D20 =3D3D3D3D3D20 =3D3D3D3D3D20 =20
>> --=3D3D3D3D3D20
>>=20
>> > > >> > >=3D
>>  No=3D20
>> > > >> > >virus=3D3D20
>> > > found in this
>> > >=3D3D20
>> > > >> > >=3D3D3D
>> > > > outgoing =3D3D3D3D
>> > > >> message.
>> > > >> > > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.
>> > > >> > > Version: 7.0.296 / Virus Database: 265.6.3 - Release =3D3D
>> > Date:=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > >> > 12/21/2004=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > >> > >=3D3D3D3D3D20
>> > > >> > > --
>> > > >> > > To post a message to the list, send it to=3D20
>> > jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx  =3D3D
>> > =3D3D3D
>> > > > To=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > >> > >unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message=3D3D20
>> > > to=3D3D3D3D3D20 =3D3D3D3D20
>> > >=3D3D20
>> > > >> > >jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe =3D
>> in=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > >> > the=3D3D3D3D3D20  subject=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > >> > >line.
>> > > >> > > Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
>> > > >> > >=3D3D3D3D3D20
>> > > >> > > If you have any concerns about the list, post=20
>> received=3D3D3D20
>> > > >> from=3D3D3D3D3D20  =3D3D3D3D
>> > > >> the=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > >> > >list, or the way the list is being run, do not post=3D3D3D20
>> > > >> them=3D3D3D3D3D20  to the
>> > > >> =3D3D3D3D
>> > > >>=3D3D3D20
>> > > >> > >list. Rather contact the list owner at=3D3D3D3D3D20  =
> =3D3D3D3D
>> > > >> jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > > >> > >=3D3D3D3D3D20
>> > > >> > --
>> > > >> > To post a message to the list, send it to=3D3D20
>> > > jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D3D3D3D20 To=3D3D20
>> > > >> >unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message =3D
>> to=3D3D3D3D20=3D3D20=3D20
>> > > >> >jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in=3D20=20
>> > > >> >the=3D3D3D3D20=3D3D20 subject line.  Archives located at:
>> > > >> >//www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
>> > > >> >=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > >> > If you have any concerns about the list, post received =3D3D
>> > from=3D3D3D3D20=3D3D20
>> > > >> >the list, or the way the list is being run, do not post=3D3D20
>> > > them=3D3D3D3D20 to=3D3D20
>> > > >> >the list. Rather contact the list owner =
> at=3D3D3D3D20=3D3D20=3D20=20
>> > > >> >jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx =3D3D3D3D20 =3D3D3D3D20
>> > > >> > --
>> > > >> > No virus found in this incoming message.
>> > > >> > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.
>> > > >> > Version: 7.0.298 / Virus Database: 265.6.5 - Release =3D
>> Date:=3D3D3D20
>> > > >> 12/26/2004
>> > > >> >=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > >> >=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > >> >=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > >> >=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > >> >=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > >> > --=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > >> > No virus found in this outgoing message.
>> > > >> > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.
>> > > >> > Version: 7.0.298 / Virus Database: 265.6.5 - Release =3D
>> Date:=3D3D3D20
>> > > >> 12/26/2004
>> > > >> >=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > >> > --
>> > > >> > To post a message to the list, send it to=3D20
>> > jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To=3D3D20=3D20
>> > > >> >unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message =3D
>> to=3D3D3D3D20=3D3D20=3D20
>> > > >> >jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in=3D20=20
>> > > >> >the=3D3D3D3D20=3D3D20 subject line.  Archives located at:
>> > > >> >//www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
>> > > >> >=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > >> > If you have any concerns about the list, post received =3D3D
>> > from=3D3D3D3D20=3D3D20
>> > > >> >the list, or the way the list is being run, do not post=3D3D20
>> > > them=3D3D3D3D20 to=3D3D20
>> > > >> >the list. Rather contact the list owner =
> at=3D3D3D3D20=3D3D20=3D20=20
>> > > >> >jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx =3D3D3D3D20
>> > > >> --
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>> > jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx  To=3D3D20=3D20
>> > > >>unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message =
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>> > > the=3D3D3D20  subject
>> > >=3D3D20
>> > > >>line.  Archives located at:=20
>> //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
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>> > > to the list.=3D3D20
>> > > >>Rather  contact the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx =3D
>> =3D3D3D20=3D20
>> > > >>=3D3D3D20
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>> > jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx  To=3D3D20=3D20
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>>=20
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>>=20
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>> > > the=3D3D3D20  subject=3D3D20
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>> > the=3D3D20
>> > > >>list. Rather contact the list owner at=3D3D3D20  =3D3D
>> > jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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>> > > > contact the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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>> jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D3D20  To
>>=20
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>
> ------------------------------
>
> From: "chevelle" <chevelle33@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: sounds manager
> Date: Thu, 30 Dec 2004 12:56:47 -0500
>
> First of all it is basics, go and check. Second of all it is the same just
> different question. You aren't all that special to where you can change 
> the
> rules to fit your needs. It is exactly the same thing. YOu are so stupid!
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "david poehlman" <david.poehlman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 12:29 PM
> Subject: Re: sounds manager
>
>
>>I asked whre is basics because there is no basics.  it is called basic.
>> This is different than me telling someone to do something they can do.
>>
>> This is the end of what I will say on the list on this topic.
>>
>> Johnnie Apple Seed
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "chevelle" <chevelle33@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 12:07 PM
>> Subject: Re: sounds manager
>>
>>
>> Listen, you did the same thing to me when I explained something to
>> someone.
>> I said go to basics. You sent a stupid post saying where is the baics?
>> when
>> you knew darned well where the baics is so don't talk about wasting time,
>> and what is off topic. You can dish it out, but you can't take it can 
>> you!
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "david poehlman" <david.poehlman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 9:59 AM
>> Subject: Re: sounds manager
>>
>>
>>> then they should ask. this is getting off topic.  If you have a problem
>>> with
>>> something I post, I suggest you write me privately and perhaps we can
>>> streighten it out.  I use correct terminology in my posts.  If people
>>> need
>>> more specificis, I am happy to furnish them but if people just want to
>>> waste
>>> time, I can do that too.
>>>
>>> Johnnie Apple Seed
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "chevelle" <chevelle33@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 9:02 AM
>>> Subject: Re: sounds manager
>>>
>>>
>>> YOu didn't tell them how to open the default manager. Maybe they dont
>>> know
>>> how to do that.
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "david poehlman" <david.poehlman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 8:44 PM
>>> Subject: Re: sounds manager
>>>
>>>
>>>>I told someone to open default configuration manager.
>>>>
>>>> Johnnie Apple Seed
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>> From: "chevelle" <chevelle33@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 8:33 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: sounds manager
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Look at your won post. You told someone to choose default. How! do! 
>>>> you!
>>>> choose! the default!
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>> From: "david poehlman" <david.poehlman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 8:22 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: sounds manager
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> what default?
>>>>>
>>>>> Johnnie Apple Seed
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>> From: "chevelle" <chevelle33@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 8:19 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: sounds manager
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> That doesn't explain how you choose the default.
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>> From: "david poehlman" <david.poehlman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 7:50 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: sounds manager
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> default is classic.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Johnnie Apple Seed
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>>> From: "chevelle" <chevelle33@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 7:36 PM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: sounds manager
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> How do you choose the default, and how do you get to the speech and
>>>>>> sounds
>>>>>> manager?
>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>>> From: "david poehlman" <david.poehlman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 6:26 PM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: sounds manager
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> speech and sounds manager is simple but there are a lot of choices 
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> make
>>>>>>> or to choose from among.  You must look through it and figure out
>>>>>>> what
>>>>>>> yu
>>>>>>> want to do.  It is not hard to do any of it and you must also choose
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> app
>>>>>>> you intend to work with.  Choose default if you wish by opening the
>>>>>>> default
>>>>>>> configuration manager and choosing speech and sounds manager and
>>>>>>> opening
>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>> up, click edit scheme button and press space, the first tab is the
>>>>>>> general
>>>>>>> tab and you can leave the description the way it is, ctrl+tab to the
>>>>>>> other
>>>>>>> pages and look through the options and things you can ghance and
>>>>>>> decide
>>>>>>> what
>>>>>>> to change.  If you want to change the way a slider sounds for
>>>>>>> instance,
>>>>>>> go
>>>>>>> to the bottom of the list on the first page and then tab to the 
>>>>>>> group
>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>> four radio buttons and select the one you want the bahavior for.
>>>>>>> Play
>>>>>>> sound
>>>>>>> is at the bottom, and for that, you must choose a wav file with the
>>>>>>> next
>>>>>>> button in tab order.  Once yu are done with the settings, click ok
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> ok
>>>>>>> again if need be, close and save.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Johnnie Apple Seed
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>>>> From: <ptusing@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 5:40 PM
>>>>>>> Subject: sounds manager
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>> Could some one for the sake of argument go through like  the  steps
>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>> order
>>>>>>> for setting the sounds  manager to put a sound on to let's say
>>>>>>> something useful.
>>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>>> I was looking for this info as in sounds manager  in the JAWS  6 
>>>>>>> help
>>>>>>> topics.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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>
> ------------------------------
>
> From: "david poehlman" <david.poehlman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: sounds manager
> Date: Thu, 30 Dec 2004 13:10:10 -0500
>
> attacking me will get yu knowwhere.  This is getting way far out of hand.
> How about we take it off list?
>
> Johnnie Apple Seed
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "chevelle" <chevelle33@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 12:56 PM
> Subject: Re: sounds manager
>
>
> First of all it is basics, go and check. Second of all it is the same just
> different question. You aren't all that special to where you can change 
> the
> rules to fit your needs. It is exactly the same thing. YOu are so stupid!
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "david poehlman" <david.poehlman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 12:29 PM
> Subject: Re: sounds manager
>
>
>>I asked whre is basics because there is no basics.  it is called basic.
>> This is different than me telling someone to do something they can do.
>>
>> This is the end of what I will say on the list on this topic.
>>
>> Johnnie Apple Seed
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "chevelle" <chevelle33@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 12:07 PM
>> Subject: Re: sounds manager
>>
>>
>> Listen, you did the same thing to me when I explained something to
>> someone.
>> I said go to basics. You sent a stupid post saying where is the baics?
>> when
>> you knew darned well where the baics is so don't talk about wasting time,
>> and what is off topic. You can dish it out, but you can't take it can 
>> you!
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "david poehlman" <david.poehlman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 9:59 AM
>> Subject: Re: sounds manager
>>
>>
>>> then they should ask. this is getting off topic.  If you have a problem
>>> with
>>> something I post, I suggest you write me privately and perhaps we can
>>> streighten it out.  I use correct terminology in my posts.  If people
>>> need
>>> more specificis, I am happy to furnish them but if people just want to
>>> waste
>>> time, I can do that too.
>>>
>>> Johnnie Apple Seed
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "chevelle" <chevelle33@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 9:02 AM
>>> Subject: Re: sounds manager
>>>
>>>
>>> YOu didn't tell them how to open the default manager. Maybe they dont
>>> know
>>> how to do that.
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "david poehlman" <david.poehlman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 8:44 PM
>>> Subject: Re: sounds manager
>>>
>>>
>>>>I told someone to open default configuration manager.
>>>>
>>>> Johnnie Apple Seed
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>> From: "chevelle" <chevelle33@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 8:33 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: sounds manager
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Look at your won post. You told someone to choose default. How! do! 
>>>> you!
>>>> choose! the default!
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>> From: "david poehlman" <david.poehlman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 8:22 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: sounds manager
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> what default?
>>>>>
>>>>> Johnnie Apple Seed
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>> From: "chevelle" <chevelle33@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 8:19 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: sounds manager
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> That doesn't explain how you choose the default.
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>> From: "david poehlman" <david.poehlman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 7:50 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: sounds manager
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> default is classic.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Johnnie Apple Seed
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>>> From: "chevelle" <chevelle33@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 7:36 PM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: sounds manager
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> How do you choose the default, and how do you get to the speech and
>>>>>> sounds
>>>>>> manager?
>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>>> From: "david poehlman" <david.poehlman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 6:26 PM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: sounds manager
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> speech and sounds manager is simple but there are a lot of choices 
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> make
>>>>>>> or to choose from among.  You must look through it and figure out
>>>>>>> what
>>>>>>> yu
>>>>>>> want to do.  It is not hard to do any of it and you must also choose
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> app
>>>>>>> you intend to work with.  Choose default if you wish by opening the
>>>>>>> default
>>>>>>> configuration manager and choosing speech and sounds manager and
>>>>>>> opening
>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>> up, click edit scheme button and press space, the first tab is the
>>>>>>> general
>>>>>>> tab and you can leave the description the way it is, ctrl+tab to the
>>>>>>> other
>>>>>>> pages and look through the options and things you can ghance and
>>>>>>> decide
>>>>>>> what
>>>>>>> to change.  If you want to change the way a slider sounds for
>>>>>>> instance,
>>>>>>> go
>>>>>>> to the bottom of the list on the first page and then tab to the 
>>>>>>> group
>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>> four radio buttons and select the one you want the bahavior for.
>>>>>>> Play
>>>>>>> sound
>>>>>>> is at the bottom, and for that, you must choose a wav file with the
>>>>>>> next
>>>>>>> button in tab order.  Once yu are done with the settings, click ok
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> ok
>>>>>>> again if need be, close and save.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Johnnie Apple Seed
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>>>> From: <ptusing@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 5:40 PM
>>>>>>> Subject: sounds manager
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>> Could some one for the sake of argument go through like  the  steps
>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>> order
>>>>>>> for setting the sounds  manager to put a sound on to let's say
>>>>>>> something useful.
>>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>>> I was looking for this info as in sounds manager  in the JAWS  6 
>>>>>>> help
>>>>>>> topics.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to
>>>>>>> jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject
>>>>>>> line.
>>>>>>> Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If you have any concerns about the list, post received from the 
>>>>>>> list,
>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> way the list is being run, do not post them to the list. Rather
>>>>>>> contact
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to
>>>>>>> jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject
>>>>>>> line.
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>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>> list,
>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>> the way the list is being run, do not post them to the list. Rather
>>>>>>> contact the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
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>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to
>>>>>> jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject
>>>>>> line.
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>>>>>>
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>>>>>> or
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> way the list is being run, do not post them to the list. Rather
>>>>>> contact
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
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>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to
>>>>>> jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject
>>>>>> line.
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>>>>>>
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>>>>>> or
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>>>>>> contact the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>
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> ------------------------------
>
> From: "Steven E. Marks" <steven@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: Windows Up Date settings with JFW
> Date: Thu, 30 Dec 2004 13:17:21 -0500
>
> Chris,
>
> I don't think it makes any difference in the three settings.  It's just a
> personal preference on how you what to get your up-dates.  I have mine set
> to download and notify me when they are ready to install.  I just like to
> know when and what kind of up-date is being installed.
>
> Steven
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Chris & Mary" <cmchaffin@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 10:37 AM
> Subject: Re: Windows Up Date settings with JFW
>
>
> Hi all,
> At this moment I have my windows updates set to automatically download and
> install.  I want to change this setting to either: download updates for 
> me,
> but do not install them, or, notify me when there are updates but do not
> download or install them.  Are there any pros and cons to doing one of 
> these
> settings over the other?
> Thanks for the help,
> Chris Chaffin
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "david poehlman" <david.poehlman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 10:13 AM
> Subject: Re: Windows Up Date settings with JFW
>
>
>> this is automatic updates and no matter which version of jaws you are
>> using,
>> you will find automatic updates in controll panel.  Activating this item
>> brings up a dialog providing choices for settings.
>>
>> Johnnie Apple Seed
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "AB7HW Dick Lee Chrisman" <ab7hw@xxxxxxx>
>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 11:27 PM
>> Subject: Windows Up Date settings with JFW
>>
>>
>> Hello All
>> Using JFW 5.00.844 how do I find the Windows XP up date settings?  I want
>> to
>> make sure the Windows XP up date is set to manual.
>> I look forward to your information.
>> Dick
>>
>>
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> ------------------------------
>
> From: "Steve" <k8sp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: JFW and the security testing products from grc.com
> Date: Thu, 30 Dec 2004 13:33:43 -0500
>
> Pranav,
>
> Go to GRC.com.  After a small blurb about his hard disk utility, you will 
> see
> his page load.  Find the shieldsUp link and press enter.
>
> Now, you can use the forms field f key to find the proceed button.  Press
> spacebar on it.
>
> Now, you will have several buttons available for different aspects of the
> ShieldsUp tests.  There are file-sharing, common ports probe, all service
> ports probe, Messenger spam probe, browser header, or a custom port edit 
> field
> where you can enter any port number from 0 to 65000 followed by the custom
> port button.
>
> To activate any of these, find the button you are interested in.  It is
> recommended that new users start with file-sharing and then common port 
> probe.
> So, find file-sharing button using your f key.  Route JFW to PC with the
> insert-minus key.  Using a rapid doble-click of the left-mouse emulation 
> key
> with the numpade slash key.
>
> You will soon see the results on the web page.
>
>
> Hope this was helpful.
>
> Steve
> Lansing, MI
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> From: <eloheem@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: Jaws for Iraq veterans!
> Date: Thu, 30 Dec 2004 14:03:39 -0500
>
> I would be graciously glad to help in any aspect of this effort, contact 
> me
> off list for my information..Eloheem
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "David Hardingham" <jarhead4@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 4:36 PM
> Subject: Re: Jaws for Iraq veterans!
>
>
>> Hi Jim, I would be interested in any program like that. I am not the best
> at
>> jaws but have been using it for several years now. I am also a Marine
> Corps
>> veteran and served in a rifle company during the Vietnam war. I did not
> lose
>> my eyesight in combat however what I went through there contributed to my
>> eyesight loss.
>>
>> Therefore I may be able to give emotional support for these guys as well
> as
>> help with jaws.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> David
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "G.W. Cox" <gwcox2@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 2:18 PM
>> Subject: Re: Jaws for Iraq veterans!
>>
>>
>> > If you want email, you might give your email address.
>> > ----- Original Message ----- 
>> > From: "Jim Talley" <nrg.jim@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 11:21 AM
>> > Subject: Re: Jaws for Iraq veterans!
>> >
>> >
>> > > The mentoring program is for veterans waiting to get into training
>> > > centers,
>> > > it is meant to be implemented on a local basis. So if this is of
>> interest
>> > > to
>> > > anyone they can e-mail me and provide there city and state also there
>> > > phone
>> > > number. I could possibly  match-up a mentor with a veteran.
>> > > SERENDIPITY
>> > > ----- Original Message ----- 
>> > > From: "Tonia" <tonton@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > > Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2004 3:50 PM
>> > > Subject: RE: Jaws for Iraq veterans!
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >> Hi Jim!  The Project Assist tutorials, from the Iowa Department for
> the
>> > >> Blind are very good step by step lessons.  I f you're not familiar
> with
>> > >> them, you can learn more by going to www.b.ind.state.ia.us.
>> > >>
>> > >> Also, how could others sign up to be tech mentors if interested?
>> > >>
>> > >> Thanks!
>> > >>
>> > >> Tonia
>> > >>
>> > >> -----Original Message-----
>> > >> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
>> > >> Behalf Of Jim Talley
>> > >> Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2004 12:45 PM
>> > >> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > >> Subject: Jaws for Iraq veterans!
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> Hi Listers, the war in Iraq is producing a number of blind veterans.
>> > >> There are 674 vets waiting to receive computer training as of June
>> 2004,
>> > >> these are waiting to be admitted to a resident training program in
> ten
>> > >> centers across the country. The Veterans Administration and the 
>> > >> Blind
>> > >> Veterans of America (BVA) is starting a Tech Mentoring program of
> which
>> > >> I am apart, what we need is a very basic fundamental JFW for Windows
>> > >> training course One that could bee taught by a blind mentor or a
>> sighted
>> > >> instructor.I for the most part began my Jaws training with the F S
>> > >> cassette tutorials, can any of you suggest a more expedient means of
>> > >> teaching Jaws to these newly blinded veterans? Your collective 
>> > >> wisdom
>> > >> will be greatly appreciated.
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> ------------------------------
>
> From: "Walter Siren" <wsiren@xxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: Oe hotkey won't work in jaws 6.
> Date: Thu, 30 Dec 2004 13:13:02 -0600
>
> actually, if I tab from the to field, I have to tab four times to get into 
> the messsage body, while with earlier
> versions of jaws, I only had to tab three times.  Now, I don't have the 
> bcc field showing.  I am using windows 98 se.
> Walter Siren
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <ptusing@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 11:05 AM
> Subject: Re: Oe hotkey won't work in jaws 6.
>
>
>> Hi,  Walter,
>> The  "alt grave"  hot key is onet hing in  Outlook Expressthat doesw ork 
>> for
>> me with JAWS 6.
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Walter Siren" <wsiren@xxxxxxx>
>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 11:19 AM
>> Subject: Oe hotkey won't work in jaws 6.
>>
>>
>> > I recently found a hotkey for OE.  This key is alt+grave, this hotkey
>> allows one to skip from the to field in  a message
>> > to the message body.  With jaws 6 however, it doesn't work.  Has 
>> > anybody
>> else ran across this.
>> > Walter Siren
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: "Horspool, Matthew F." <drjaws@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 10:04 AM
>> > Subject: RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re: Bug Fixes 
>> > in
>> JAWS 6.0
>> >
>> >
>> > > I'm using a 2.53 GHz processor.  I think the other figure was from an
>> > > old laptop.
>> > > -------------------------
>> > > Mr. Matthew F. Horspool
>> > >
>> > > Send me an Electronic Mail to
>> > > drjaws@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > >
>> > > Add
>> > > horspool@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > > to your MSN contact list
>> > >
>> > > Or Visit my web site at
>> > > http://www.horspool.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk
>> > > -------------------------
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > -----Original Message-----
>> > > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
>> > > Behalf Of david poehlman
>> > > Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 3:23 PM
>> > > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > > Subject: Re: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re: Bug Fixes 
>> > > in
>> > > JAWS 6.0
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > What do you get then when you look at system in controll panel?
>> > >
>> > > Johnnie Apple Seed
>> > >
>> > > ----- Original Message -----
>> > > From: "Horspool, Matthew F." <drjaws@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > > Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 10:13 AM
>> > > Subject: RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re: Bug Fixes 
>> > > in
>> > >
>> > > JAWS 6.0
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Right.  I used the System Information tool and saved in plain text.
>> > >
>> > > -------------------------
>> > > Mr. Matthew F. Horspool
>> > >
>> > > Send me an Electronic Mail to
>> > > drjaws@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > >
>> > > Add
>> > > horspool@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > > to your MSN contact list
>> > >
>> > > Or Visit my web site at http://www.horspool.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk
>> > > -------------------------
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > -----Original Message-----
>> > > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
>> > > Behalf Of david poehlman
>> > > Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 3:11 PM
>> > > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > > Subject: Re: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re: Bug Fixes 
>> > > in
>> > > JAWS 6.0
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > matt,
>> > >
>> > > If you go to control panel, open system and read with the jaws cursor 
>> > > or
>> > >
>> > > ins+b, you are told in plain english what system you have.  I'm not 
>> > > sure
>> > > what you are running to get the result you have below, but thought 
>> > > this
>> > > might help.
>> > >
>> > > Johnnie Apple Seed
>> > >
>> > > ----- Original Message -----
>> > > From: "Horspool, Matthew F." <drjaws@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > > Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 3:26 AM
>> > > Subject: RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re: Bug Fixes 
>> > > in
>> > >
>> > > JAWS 6.0
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > OK, I thought I got it right, but when I interrogated the system this
>> > > line came up:
>> > > Processor: x86 Family 15 Model 2 Stepping 7 GenuineIntel ~2532 MhZ
>> > >
>> > > If I interpreted this line correctly I have a 2532MhZ processor!
>> > >
>> > > -------------------------
>> > > Mr. Matthew F. Horspool
>> > >
>> > > Send me an Electronic Mail to
>> > > drjaws@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > >
>> > > Add
>> > > horspool@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > > to your MSN contact list
>> > >
>> > > Or Visit my web site at http://www.horspool.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk
>> > > -------------------------
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > -----Original Message-----
>> > > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
>> > > Behalf Of Chip Orange
>> > > Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 5:13 PM
>> > > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > > Subject: RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re: Bug Fixes 
>> > > in
>> > > JAWS 6.0
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > If you got that right (and it's not a typo) and your processor speed 
>> > > was
>> > > only 256 mhz, then I could see why switching to a hardware 
>> > > synthesizer
>> > > had such an improvement for you.  That was quite a load for your 
>> > > system.
>> > >
>> > > Chip
>> > >
>> > > =20
>> > >
>> > > > -----Original Message-----
>> > > > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=20 
>> > > > [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>> > > >On Behalf Of Horspool, Matthew F.
>> > > > Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 12:05 PM
>> > > > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > > > Subject: RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re:=20  Bug
>> > > >Fixes in JAWS 6.0 =20  Well I had 512MB RAM and about 256MHZ
>> > > >Processors.  Running at=20  once I had a copy of WinAmp with the 
>> > > >Audio
>> > > >stocker and=20  SHOUTcast plugin, Microsoft Outlook, SHOUTcast DNAS
>> > > >(GUI),=20  BVentrilo and the Ventrilo Server, and a copy of JFW.
>> > > >This=20  slowed down the system quite a bit. =20
>> > > > -------------------------
>> > > > Mr. Matthew F. Horspool
>> > > > =20
>> > > > Send me an Electronic Mail to
>> > > > drjaws@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > > > =20
>> > > > Add
>> > > > horspool@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > > > to your MSN contact list
>> > > > =20
>> > > > Or Visit my web site at
>> > > > http://www.horspool.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk
>> > > > -------------------------
>> > > >=20
>> > > >=20
>> > > > -----Original Message-----
>> > > > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=20
>> > > > [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Chip Orange
>> > > > Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 4:38 PM
>> > > > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > > > Subject: RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re:=20
>> > > > Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0
>> > > >=20
>> > > >=20
>> > > > Ok,  this is the first opinion which strongly prefers one to=20
>> > > > another for other than subjective reasons, and I appreciate it.
>> > > >=20
>> > > > Would you say the system you were using when you made the=20
>> > > > switch was unusually slow, short of ram, or overloaded with=20
>> > > > processing tasks?
>> > > >=20
>> > > > Thanks.
>> > > >=20
>> > > > Chip
>> > > >=20
>> > > > =3D20
>> > > >=20
>> > > > > -----Original Message-----
>> > > > > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D20 =20
>> > > > [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]=20
>> > > > >On Behalf Of Horspool, Matthew F.
>> > > > > Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 11:30 AM
>> > > > > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > > > > Subject: RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re:=3D20 
>> > > > > =
>> > > Bug=20
>> > > > >Fixes in JAWS 6.0 =3D20  Used DECtalk ACCESS32 for about a=20
>> > > > year and then=20
>> > > > >switched to a=3D20  DECtalk USB for to get better broadcast=20
>> > > > clarity.  I=20
>> > > > >certainly=3D20  have noticed a huge difference in responsiveness: 
>> > > > >=
>> > > The=20
>> > > > >DEC=3D20  USB is faster - a lot faster!
>> > > > >=3D20
>> > > > > -------------------------
>> > > > > Mr. Matthew F. Horspool
>> > > > > =3D20
>> > > > > Send me an Electronic Mail to
>> > > > > drjaws@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > > > > =3D20
>> > > > > Add
>> > > > > horspool@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > > > > to your MSN contact list
>> > > > > =3D20
>> > > > > Or Visit my web site at  http://www.horspool.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk
>> > > > > -------------------------
>> > > > >=3D20
>> > > > >=3D20
>> > > > > -----Original Message-----
>> > > > > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D20
>> > > > >[mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of John Miller
>> > > > > Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 4:20 PM
>> > > > > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > > > > Subject: Re: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re:=3D20 
>> > > > > =
>> > > Bug=20
>> > > > >Fixes in JAWS 6.0 =3D20 =3D20  I don't notice it if so.
>> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
>> > > > > From: "Chip Orange" <Corange@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > > > > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > > > > Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 10:47 AM
>> > > > > Subject: RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re:=3D20 
>> > > > > =
>> > > Bug=20
>> > > > >Fixes in =3D20  JAWS 6.0 =3D20 =3D20
>> > > > > > Yes; and they do use some processor time.  The question is 
>> > > > > > that=20
>> > >
>> > > > > > on=3D20 todays systems, which usually have plenty of =
>> > > processor=3D20
>> > > > > speed and RAM,=3D20
>> > > > > > does that really make any difference?
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Now, I know that it does from reports on AT&T Natural
>> > > > > > Voices=3D20=20 specifically, but I was wondering about 
>> > > > > > Eloquence.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Thanks.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Chip
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > =3D3D20
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >> -----Original Message-----
>> > > > > >> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D3D20 =3D20
>> > > > > [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]=3D20
>> > > > > >>On Behalf Of Flor Lynch
>> > > > > >> Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2004 9:00 PM
>> > > > > >> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > > > > >> Subject: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re:=3D20
>> > > > > Bug=3D3D20  Fixes
>> > > > >=3D20
>> > > > > >>in JAWS 6.0 =3D3D20
>> > > > > >> Software synths take up more RAM than hardware ones do.
>> > > > > >> ----- Original Message -----
>> > > > > >> From: "Chip Orange" <Corange@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > > > > >> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > > > > >> Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2004 2:22 PM
>> > > > > >> Subject: RE: Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0
>> > > > > >>=3D3D20
>> > > > > >>=3D3D20
>> > > > > >> Well, no argument with your first point, it is more=3D20
>> > > > > difficult to have =3D20
>> > > > > >>all of the sound coming out of one source; but, when you=3D20
>> > > > > need to use =3D20
>> > > > > >>headphones so as not to disturb someone else, it's also =
>> > > more=3D3D20=20
>> > > > > >>=3D20 convenient. =3D3D20  As for your second, that just=20
>> > > > seems to come=20
>> > > > > >>down to personal=3D3D20
>> > > > =3D20
>> > > > > >>preference  as it doesn't bother me a bit.
>> > > > > >>=3D3D20
>> > > > > >> There is one which you didn't mention, but which I've=3D20
>> > > > > always wondered =3D20
>> > > > > >>about, and that's how much of a load does Eloquence place=3D20
>> > > > > on=3D3D20  your=3D20
>> > > > > >>system  by having the software synth as compared to 
>> > > > > >>sending=3D20
>> > > > > the text=3D20
>> > > > > >>to be  spoken out of the serial port?  Anyone have any facts=20
>> > > > > >>along=3D20 this
>> > > > > line?
>> > > > > >>=3D3D20
>> > > > > >> Thanks.
>> > > > > >>=3D3D20
>> > > > > >> Chip
>> > > > > >>=3D3D20
>> > > > > >> =3D3D3D20
>> > > > > >>=3D3D20
>> > > > > >> > -----Original Message-----
>> > > > > >> > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D3D3D20=3D20
>> > > > > >> >[mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Kerri
>> > > > > >> > Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2004 2:04 AM
>> > > > > >> > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > > > > >> > Subject: Re: Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0 =3D3D3D20  Hello  Chip. 
>> > > > > >> > I=20
>> > >
>> > > > > >> >despise software synthesizers mainly=3D20
>> > > > > because=3D3D3D20 if=3D20
>> > > > > >> >you are required to listen to other media, I find it=20
>> > > > to=3D3D3D20=3D20=20
>> > > > > >> >difficult to with a software synthesizer coming through=20
>> > > > the=3D3D3D20
>> > > >=20
>> > > > > >> >=3D
>> > > >=20
>> > > > > >> >same speakers. I also dislike elloquence's voice, *all of 
>> > > > > >> >them*
>> > > > > >> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > > > > >> > From: "Chip Orange" <Corange@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > > > > >> > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > > > > >> > Sent: Monday, December 27, 2004 12:02 PM
>> > > > > >> > Subject: RE: Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0 =3D3D3D20 =3D3D3D20 
>> > > > > >> > I'm=20
>> > > > > >> >interested in hearing why, as I use a DT express at=3D20
>> > > > > work,=3D3D3D20
>> > > > >=3D20
>> > > > > >> >and eloquence at home, and really haven't felt there's=20
>> > > > much=3D3D3D20
>> > > >=20
>> > > > > >> >=3D
>> > > >=20
>> > > > > >> >difference.  Perhaps there's just something I'm=20
>> > > > missing? =3D3D3D20 =20
>> > > > > >> >Thanks.
>> > > > > >> >=3D3D3D20
>> > > > > >> > Chip
>> > > > > >> >=3D3D3D20
>> > > > > >> > =3D3D3D3D20
>> > > > > >> >=3D3D3D20
>> > > > > >> > > -----Original Message-----
>> > > > > >> > > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D3D3D3D20=3D20
>> > > > > >> > >[mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Kerri
>> > > > > >> > > Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2004 12:17 AM
>> > > > > >> > > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > > > > >> > > Subject: Re: Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0 =3D3D3D3D20  Chris, 
>> > > > > >> > > I=3D20
>> > > > > vehemently=3D20
>> > > > > >> > >despise software synthesizers hence=3D3D3D20
>> > > > > >> > my=3D3D3D3D20  dectalk=3D3D3D20
>> > > > > >> > >use and this is the only version that has been =3D
>> > > > rather=3D3D3D3D20=3D3D20
>> > > > > >>  sluggish.
>> > > > > >> > > ----- Original Message -----
>> > > > > >> > > From: "Chris Skarstad" <toonhead5@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > > > > >> > > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > > > > >> > > Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2004 4:15 PM
>> > > > > >> > > Subject: Re: Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0 =3D3D3D3D20 =3D3D3D3D20 
>> > > > > >> > > =
>> > > =3D20
>> > > > > man I guess=3D20
>> > > > > >> > >I'm very lucky then. This version actually runs =3D3D
>> > > > > > a=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > > > >> =3D3D3D20
>> > > > > >> > >little faster on my system than 5.10 did. Then again=3D3D20
>> > > > > >> I'm=3D3D3D3D20  using
>> > > > > >> =3D3D3D
>> > > > > >> a=3D3D3D20
>> > > > > >> > >hardware synthesizer which is probably the=20
>> > > > reason.=3D3D3D3D20  =3D3D
>> > > > > > Never=3D3D3D20
>> > > > > >> > did like=3D3D3D20
>> > > > > >> > >software speech and never will based on what=3D3D3D3D20=20
>> > > >  I've=3D3D20
>> > > > > >> seen.  By the
>> > > > > >> =3D3D3D
>> > > > > >>=3D3D20
>> > > > > >> > >way, the murge feature is there. go to=3D3D3D3D20  your=20
>> > > > jaws=3D3D20
>> > > > > >> window with =3D3D3D
>> > > > > >> alt=3D3D3D20
>> > > > > >> > >plus j, press alt u for utilities,=3D3D3D3D20  and it's =
>> > > in=3D3D20
>> > > > > >> there. or simply
>> > > > > >> =3D3D3D
>> > > > > >>=3D3D20
>> > > > > >> > >bring up the context menu if=3D3D3D3D20  you're running=20
>> > > > jaws in =3D
>> > > > =3D3D
>> > > > > > the=3D3D3D20
>> > > > > >> > system tray=3D3D3D20
>> > > > > >> > >and go to utilities=3D3D3D3D20  and the murge utility=20
>> > > > is there.=3D20
>> > > >=20
>> > > > > >> > >=3D3D3D3D20  At 04:29 PM 12/21/2004, you wrote:
>> > > > > >> > > >Hay, you mean, they haven't fixed any right? I'm=3D20
>> > > > > sorry, I=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > > > >> > > just couldn't=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > > > >> > > >resist. In truth, this has been the worst version =
>> > > I've=3D3D20
>> > > > > >> had the=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > > > >> =3D3D3D
>> > > > > >>=3D3D20
>> > > > > >> > > >misfortune to deal with in a long while. It runs=3D3D20
>> > > > > >> terribley slow,=3D3D3D20
>> > > > > >> > > >I'm=3D3D3D3D20 getting false attachments, no merge=20
>> > > > feature=3D3D20
>> > > > > >> anywhere. I=3D3D3D20
>> > > > > >> > > >love=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > > > >> > > spending=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > > > >> > > >money on this "improved" product. Sorry, I'm being a 
>> > > > > >> > > >grinch.
>> > > > > >> > > >----- Original Message -----
>> > > > > >> > > >From: "RJ" <rjf1@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > > > > >> > > >To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > > > > >> > > >Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2004 2:16 PM
>> > > > > >> > > >Subject: Re: Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0
>> > > > > >> > > >
>> > > > > >> > > >
>> > > > > >> > > >You are looking right, there just isn't any bugs.=3D20
>> > > > > Smiling here.
>> > > > > >> > > >----- Original Message -----
>> > > > > >> > > >From: "Margaret Thomas" <iluvtoread@xxxxxxx>
>> > > > > >> > > >To: "jfw" <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > > > > >> > > >Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2004 4:15 PM
>> > > > > >> > > >Subject: Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0
>> > > > > >> > > >
>> > > > > >> > > >
>> > > > > >> > > > > Good Afternoon,
>> > > > > >> > > > >
>> > > > > >> > > > >     I had a migraine when JAWS 6.0 was released =
>> > > and=3D3D20
>> > > > > >> am trying=3D3D3D20
>> > > > > >> > > > > to=3D3D3D3D20 catch up with list mail before=3D20
>> > > > > installing the new =3D3D
>> > > > > > =3D3D3D
>> > > > > >> release.
>> > > > > >> > > > >
>> > > > > >> > > > >     I've looked over the What's New section for
>> > > > > >> > > > > 6.0=3D20=20 and=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > > > >> > > could swear=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > > > >> > > > > that there used to be a section on bug fixes, but I'm 
>> > > > > >> > > > > =
>> > > =3D3D
>> > > > > > not=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > > > >> > > finding it=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > > > >> > > > > for this version.  Am I having another senior moment, 
>> > > > > >> > > > > =
>> > > =3D3D
>> > > > > > or=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > > > >> > > did FS not=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > > > >> > > > > do it this time, or am I looking in the wrong=3D20
>> > > > > place on=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > > > >> > > the FS site? =3D3D3D3D20
>> > > > > >> > > > > I've been looking at:
>> > > > > >> > > > >
>> > > > > >> > > > >
>> > > > > >> > >=20
>> > > > >http://www.freedomscientific.com/fs_products/software_jaws60f
>> > > > > >> > > ea.asp#JAW
>> > > > > >> > > >S_Features
>> > > > > >> > > > >
>> > > > > >> > > > >     Thanks,
>> > > > > >> > > > > Margaret
>> > > > > >> > > > > iluvtoread@xxxxxxx
>> > > > > >> > > > >
>> > > > > >> > > > > --
>> > > > > >> > > > > To post a message to the list, send it to=3D3D3D20
>> > > > > >> > jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To=3D3D3D3D20=3D3D3D20
>> > > > > >> > > > > unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to
>> > > > > >> > > >jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe
>> > > > > >> > > >in=3D20=20 the=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > > > >> > > subject line.
>> > > > > >> > > > > Archives located at:=20
>> > > > //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
>> > > > > >> > > > >
>> > > > > >> > > > > If you have any concerns about the list, post =3D
>> > > > received=3D3D3D20
>> > > > > >> > from the=3D3D3D3D20=3D3D3D20
>> > > > > >> > > > > list, or
>> > > > > >> > > >the way the list is being run, do not post them to
>> > > > > >> > > >the=3D20=20 list.=3D3D3D20 Rather=3D3D3D3D20 contact the
>> > > > > >> > > >list owner =
>> > > at=3D20=20
>> > > > > >> > > >jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > > > > >> > > > >
>> > > > > >> > > >
>> > > > > >> > > >--
>> > > > > >> > > >To post a message to the list, send it to=3D3D20
>> > > > > >> jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > > > >> =3D3D3D
>> > > > > >>=3D3D20
>> > > > > >> > > >unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a 
>> > > > > >> > > >message=3D20=20
>> > > > > >> > > >to=3D3D3D3D20=3D3D3D20 jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with=20
>> > > > the word=3D20=20
>> > > > > >> > > >unsubscribe in the=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > > > >> > > subject line.
>> > > > > >> > > >Archives located at: 
>> > > > > >> > > >//www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
>> > > > > >> > > >
>> > > > > >> > > >If you have any concerns about the list, post received 
>> > > > > >> > > >=3D3D
>> > > > > > from=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > > > >> > > the list,=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > > > >> > > >or the way the list is being run, do not post them 
>> > > > > >> > > >to=3D20
>> > > > > the=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > > > >> > > list. Rather=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > > > >> > > >contact the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > > > > >> > > >
>> > > > > >> > > >
>> > > > > >> > > >--
>> > > > > >> > > >No virus found in this incoming message.
>> > > > > >> > > >Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.
>> > > > > >> > > >Version: 7.0.296 / Virus Database: 265.6.3 - Release=3D20
>> > > > > Date:=3D3D3D20
>> > > > > >> > 12/21/2004
>> > > > > >> > > >
>> > > > > >> > > >
>> > > > > >> > > >
>> > > > > >> > > >
>> > > > > >> > > >--
>> > > > > >> > > >No virus found in this outgoing message.
>> > > > > >> > > >Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.
>> > > > > >> > > >Version: 7.0.296 / Virus Database: 265.6.3 - Release=3D20
>> > > > > Date:=3D3D3D20
>> > > > > >> > 12/21/2004
>> > > > > >> > > >
>> > > > > >> > > >--
>> > > > > >> > > >To post a message to the list, send it to=3D3D20
>> > > > > >> jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > > > >> =3D3D3D
>> > > > > >>=3D3D20
>> > > > > >> > > >unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a 
>> > > > > >> > > >message=3D20=20
>> > > > > >> > > >to=3D3D3D3D20=3D3D3D20 jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with=20
>> > > > the word=3D20=20
>> > > > > >> > > >unsubscribe in the=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > > > >> > > subject line.
>> > > > > >> > > >Archives located at: 
>> > > > > >> > > >//www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
>> > > > > >> > > >
>> > > > > >> > > >If you have any concerns about the list, post received 
>> > > > > >> > > >=3D3D
>> > > > > > from=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > > > >> > > the list,=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > > > >> > > >or the way the list is being run, do not post them 
>> > > > > >> > > >to=3D20
>> > > > > the=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > > > >> > > list. Rather=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > > > >> > > >contact the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > > > > >> > >=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > > > >> > > --
>> > > > > >> > > To post a message to the list, send it to=3D3D20
>> > > > > >> jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D3D3D3D20  To
>> > > > > >> =3D3D3D
>> > > > > >>=3D3D20
>> > > > > >> > >unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message=3D20
>> > > > > to=3D3D3D3D20 =3D3D3D20
>> > > > >=3D20
>> > > > > >> > >jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe =
>> > > in=3D3D3D20
>> > > > > >> > the=3D3D3D3D20  subject=3D3D3D20
>> > > > > >> > >line.
>> > > > > >> > > Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
>> > > > > >> > >=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > > > >> > > If you have any concerns about the list, post 
>> > > > > >> > > received=3D3D20
>> > > > > >> from=3D3D3D3D20  =3D3D3D
>> > > > > >> the=3D3D3D20
>> > > > > >> > >list, or the way the list is being run, do not post=3D3D20
>> > > > > >> them=3D3D3D3D20  to the
>> > > > > >> =3D3D3D
>> > > > > >>=3D3D20
>> > > > > >> > >list. Rather contact the list owner at=3D3D3D3D20  =3D3D3D
>> > > > > >> jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > > > > >> > >=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > > > >> > >=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > > > >> > > --
>> > > > > >> > > No virus found in this incoming message.
>> > > > > >> > > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.
>> > > > > >> > > Version: 7.0.296 / Virus Database: 265.6.3 - Release =3D
>> > > > Date:=3D3D3D20
>> > > > > >> > 12/21/2004=3D3D3D20
>> > > > > >> > >=3D3D3D3D20 =3D3D3D3D20 =3D3D3D3D20 
>> > > > > >> > >3D3D3D3D20  --=3D3D3D3D20
>> > >
>> > > > > >> > >=
>> > >  No=20
>> > > > > >> > >virus=3D20
>> > > > > found in this
>> > > > >=3D20
>> > > > > >> > >=3D3D
>> > > > > > outgoing =3D3D3D
>> > > > > >> message.
>> > > > > >> > > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.
>> > > > > >> > > Version: 7.0.296 / Virus Database: 265.6.3 - Release =3D
>> > > > Date:=3D3D3D20
>> > > > > >> > 12/21/2004=3D3D3D20
>> > > > > >> > >=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > > > >> > > --
>> > > > > >> > > To post a message to the list, send it to=20
>> > > > jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx  =3D
>> > > > =3D3D
>> > > > > > To=3D3D3D20
>> > > > > >> > >unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message=3D20
>> > > > > to=3D3D3D3D20 =3D3D3D20
>> > > > >=3D20
>> > > > > >> > >jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe =
>> > > in=3D3D3D20
>> > > > > >> > the=3D3D3D3D20  subject=3D3D3D20
>> > > > > >> > >line.
>> > > > > >> > > Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
>> > > > > >> > >=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > > > >> > > If you have any concerns about the list, post 
>> > > > > >> > > received=3D3D20
>> > > > > >> from=3D3D3D3D20  =3D3D3D
>> > > > > >> the=3D3D3D20
>> > > > > >> > >list, or the way the list is being run, do not post=3D3D20
>> > > > > >> them=3D3D3D3D20  to the
>> > > > > >> =3D3D3D
>> > > > > >>=3D3D20
>> > > > > >> > >list. Rather contact the list owner at=3D3D3D3D20  =3D3D3D
>> > > > > >> jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > > > > >> > >=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > > > >> > --
>> > > > > >> > To post a message to the list, send it to=3D20
>> > > > > jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D3D3D20 To=3D20
>> > > > > >> >unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message =
>> > > to=3D3D3D20=3D20=20
>> > > > > >> >jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in=20
>> > > > > >> >the=3D3D3D20=3D20 subject line.  Archives located at:
>> > > > > >> >//www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
>> > > > > >> >=3D3D3D20
>> > > > > >> > If you have any concerns about the list, post received =3D
>> > > > from=3D3D3D20=3D20
>> > > > > >> >the list, or the way the list is being run, do not post=3D20
>> > > > > them=3D3D3D20 to=3D20
>> > > > > >> >the list. Rather contact the list owner at=3D3D3D20=3D20=20
>> > > > > >> >jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx =3D3D3D20 =3D3D3D20
>> > > > > >> > --
>> > > > > >> > No virus found in this incoming message.
>> > > > > >> > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.
>> > > > > >> > Version: 7.0.298 / Virus Database: 265.6.5 - Release =
>> > > Date:=3D3D20
>> > > > > >> 12/26/2004
>> > > > > >> >=3D3D3D20
>> > > > > >> >=3D3D3D20
>> > > > > >> >=3D3D3D20
>> > > > > >> >=3D3D3D20
>> > > > > >> >=3D3D3D20
>> > > > > >> > --=3D3D3D20
>> > > > > >> > No virus found in this outgoing message.
>> > > > > >> > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.
>> > > > > >> > Version: 7.0.298 / Virus Database: 265.6.5 - Release =
>> > > Date:=3D3D20
>> > > > > >> 12/26/2004
>> > > > > >> >=3D3D3D20
>> > > > > >> > --
>> > > > > >> > To post a message to the list, send it to=20
>> > > > jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To=3D20=20
>> > > > > >> >unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message =
>> > > to=3D3D3D20=3D20=20
>> > > > > >> >jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in=20
>> > > > > >> >the=3D3D3D20=3D20 subject line.  Archives located at:
>> > > > > >> >//www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
>> > > > > >> >=3D3D3D20
>> > > > > >> > If you have any concerns about the list, post received =3D
>> > > > from=3D3D3D20=3D20
>> > > > > >> >the list, or the way the list is being run, do not post=3D20
>> > > > > them=3D3D3D20 to=3D20
>> > > > > >> >the list. Rather contact the list owner at=3D3D3D20=3D20=20
>> > > > > >> >jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx =3D3D3D20
>> > > > > >> --
>> > > > > >> To post a message to the list, send it to=20
>> > > > jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx  To=3D20=20
>> > > > > >>unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to=3D20=20
>> > > > > >>jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in=3D20
>> > > > > the=3D3D20  subject
>> > > > >=3D20
>> > > > > >>line.  Archives located at: 
>> > > > > >>//www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
>> > > > > >>=3D3D20
>> > > > > >> If you have any concerns about the list, post received=3D20
>> > > > > from=3D3D20  the=3D20
>> > > > > >>list, or  the way the list is being run, do not post them=3D20
>> > > > > to the list.=3D20
>> > > > > >>Rather  contact the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx =
>> > > =3D3D20=20
>> > > > > >>=3D3D20
>> > > > > >> --
>> > > > > >> To post a message to the list, send it to=20
>> > > > jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx  To=3D20=20
>> > > > > >>unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to=3D3D20 
>> > > > > >>=3D20
>> > >
>> > > > > >>=
>> > >
>> > > > > >>jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in=3D20
>> > > > > the=3D3D20  subject=3D20
>> > > > > >>line.
>> > > > > >> Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
>> > > > > >>=3D3D20
>> > > > > >> If you have any concerns about the list, post received=3D20
>> > > > > from=3D3D20  the=3D20
>> > > > > >>list, or the way the list is being run, do not post=20
>> > > > them=3D3D20  to =3D
>> > > > the=3D20
>> > > > > >>list. Rather contact the list owner at=3D3D20  =3D
>> > > > jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > > > > >>=3D3D20
>> > > > > > --
>> > > > > > To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx =
>> > > To=3D20=20
>> > > > > > unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to=3D20=20
>> > > > > > jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the=20
>> > > > > > subject=3D20 line. Archives located at:
>> > > > > > //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > If you have any concerns about the list, post received 
>> > > > > > from=3D20
>> > > > > the list,=3D20
>> > > > > > or the way the list is being run, do not post them to the=3D20
>> > > > > list. Rather=3D20
>> > > > > > contact the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > > > > >=3D20
>> > > > >=3D20
>> > > > >=3D20
>> > > > > --
>> > > > > To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D20 
>> > > > > To
>> > >
>> > > > >=
>> > >
>> > > > >unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to=3D20=20
>> > > > >jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in=20
>> > > > the=3D20  subject=20
>> > > > >line.  Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
>> > > > >=3D20
>> > > > > If you have any concerns about the list, post received from=3D20 
>> > > > > =
>> > > the=20
>> > > > >list, or the way the list is being run, do not post them=3D20  to 
>> > > > >the
>> > >
>> > > > >=
>> > >
>> > > > >list. Rather contact the list owner at=3D20  =
>> > > jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > > > >=3D20
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> ------------------------------
>
> From: Djasister2@xxxxxxx
> Date: Thu, 30 Dec 2004 14:34:03 EST
> Subject: Re: Windows Up Date settings with JFW
>
> Using, XP and jfw 5.1.
> There  are updates in my system tray, that have, been there for awhile.  I
> have my system set to automatic.  Should I be concerned?
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> From: "bc" <bc@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: laptop hotkey question
> Date: Thu, 30 Dec 2004 12:55:18 -0800
>
> Does anyone know how to assign the JawsKey to the Function key?
>
> I think it would work better than the Capslock key (for me at any rate).
>
> Thanks...
>
> Bryan
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> From: "shelly christner" <shelly4jericho@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: how do i use windows media player with my jaws.
> Date: Thu, 30 Dec 2004 14:55:42 -0600
>
> Hi there,
> I was just wonderign if anybody could help me figure out how to use 
> windows
> media player with jaws.
> I have version five point zero of jaws.
> and i have version ten of windows media player.
> i really would like to no how to burn cds on my own instead of my always
> having to ask my twin sister for help.thanks, and if you want any more 
> info
> feel free to email me,
> shelly
>
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>
> ------------------------------
>
> From: "david poehlman" <david.poehlman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: laptop hotkey question
> Date: Thu, 30 Dec 2004 16:15:19 -0500
>
> Hi,
>
> OPen keyboard manager with Jawskey+8 on the numbers row,  Arrow up to
> default, tab to the list of keys and press j till you hear jaws key, press
> alt+a and press enter on add keystroke,
> press the key stroke you want to add and press enter.  Confirm and close.
>
> Johnnie Apple Seed
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "bc" <bc@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 3:55 PM
> Subject: laptop hotkey question
>
>
> Does anyone know how to assign the JawsKey to the Function key?
>
> I think it would work better than the Capslock key (for me at any rate).
>
> Thanks...
>
> Bryan
>
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> ------------------------------
>
> From: "Horspool, Matthew F." <drjaws@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re: Bug Fixes in 
> JAWS 6
> Date: Thu, 30 Dec 2004 21:20:04 -0000
>
> I can't most of the time.  It's with things such as text/file selection
> that it's noticable.
>
> -------------------------
> Mr. Matthew F. Horspool
>
> Send me an Electronic Mail to
> drjaws@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
> Add
> horspool@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> to your MSN contact list
>
> Or Visit my web site at
> http://www.horspool.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk
> -------------------------
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> Behalf Of Chip Orange
> Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 5:44 PM
> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re: Bug Fixes in
> JAWS 6.0
>
>
> Ok, then I'm surprised to hear that you could detect any difference in
> responsiveness speed between software and hardware synthesizers (always
> excluding natural voices from this discussion of course).
>
> =20
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=20  [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>>On Behalf Of Horspool, Matthew F.
>> Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 11:05 AM
>> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re:=20  Bug
>>Fixes in JAWS 6.0 =20
>> I'm using a 2.53 GHz processor.  I think the other figure was=20
>> from an old laptop.
>> -------------------------
>> Mr. Matthew F. Horspool
>> =20
>> Send me an Electronic Mail to
>> drjaws@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> =20
>> Add
>> horspool@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> to your MSN contact list
>> =20
>> Or Visit my web site at
>> http://www.horspool.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk
>> -------------------------
>>=20
>>=20
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=20
>> [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of david poehlman
>> Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 3:23 PM
>> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: Re: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re:=20
>> Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0
>>=20
>>=20
>> What do you get then when you look at system in controll panel?
>>=20
>> Johnnie Apple Seed
>>=20
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Horspool, Matthew F." <drjaws@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 10:13 AM
>> Subject: RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re:=20
>> Bug Fixes in
>>=20
>> JAWS 6.0
>>=20
>>=20
>> Right.  I used the System Information tool and saved in plain text.
>>=20
>> -------------------------
>> Mr. Matthew F. Horspool
>>=20
>> Send me an Electronic Mail to
>> drjaws@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>=20
>> Add
>> horspool@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> to your MSN contact list
>>=20
>> Or Visit my web site at http://www.horspool.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk
>> -------------------------
>>=20
>>=20
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=20
>> [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of david poehlman
>> Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 3:11 PM
>> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: Re: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re:=20
>> Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0
>>=20
>>=20
>> matt,
>>=20
>> If you go to control panel, open system and read with the=20
>> jaws cursor or
>>=20
>> ins+b, you are told in plain english what system you have. =20
>> I'm not sure
>> what you are running to get the result you have below, but=20  thought
>
>>this might help. =20
>> Johnnie Apple Seed
>>=20
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Horspool, Matthew F." <drjaws@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 3:26 AM
>> Subject: RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re:=20
>> Bug Fixes in
>>=20
>> JAWS 6.0
>>=20
>>=20
>> OK, I thought I got it right, but when I interrogated the=20
>> system this line came up:
>> Processor: x86 Family 15 Model 2 Stepping 7 GenuineIntel ~2532 MhZ
>>=20
>> If I interpreted this line correctly I have a 2532MhZ processor!
>>=20
>> -------------------------
>> Mr. Matthew F. Horspool
>>=20
>> Send me an Electronic Mail to
>> drjaws@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>=20
>> Add
>> horspool@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> to your MSN contact list
>>=20
>> Or Visit my web site at http://www.horspool.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk
>> -------------------------
>>=20
>>=20
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=20
>> [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Chip Orange
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 5:13 PM
>> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re:=20
>> Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0
>>=20
>>=20
>> If you got that right (and it's not a typo) and your=20
>> processor speed was only 256 mhz, then I could see why=20
>> switching to a hardware synthesizer had such an improvement=20
>> for you.  That was quite a load for your system.
>>=20
>> Chip
>>=20
>> =3D20
>>=20
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D20 =20
>> [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]=20
>> >On Behalf Of Horspool, Matthew F.
>> > Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 12:05 PM
>> > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > Subject: RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re:=3D20  =
> Bug=20
>> >Fixes in JAWS 6.0 =3D20  Well I had 512MB RAM and about 256MHZ=20
>> >Processors.  Running at=3D20  once I had a copy of WinAmp with=20
>> the Audio=20
>> >stocker and=3D20  SHOUTcast plugin, Microsoft Outlook, SHOUTcast DNAS
>
>> >=
>
>> >(GUI),=3D20  BVentrilo and the Ventrilo Server, and a copy of JFW.
>> >This=3D20  slowed down the system quite a bit. =3D20
>> > -------------------------
>> > Mr. Matthew F. Horspool
>> > =3D20
>> > Send me an Electronic Mail to
>> > drjaws@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > =3D20
>> > Add
>> > horspool@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > to your MSN contact list
>> > =3D20
>> > Or Visit my web site at  http://www.horspool.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk
>> > -------------------------
>> >=3D20
>> >=3D20
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D20
>> > [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Chip Orange
>> > Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 4:38 PM
>> > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > Subject: RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re:=3D20  =
> Bug=20
>> >Fixes in JAWS 6.0 =3D20 =3D20  Ok,  this is the first opinion
>> >which=20 strongly prefers one to=3D20  another for other than=20
>> subjective reasons,=20
>> >and I appreciate it.
>> >=3D20
>> > Would you say the system you were using when you made=20
>> the=3D20  switch=20
>> >was unusually slow, short of ram, or overloaded with=3D20  processing
>
>> >=
>
>> >tasks?
>> >=3D20
>> > Thanks.
>> >=3D20
>> > Chip
>> >=3D20
>> > =3D3D20
>> >=3D20
>> > > -----Original Message-----
>> > > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D3D20 =3D20
>> > [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]=3D20
>> > >On Behalf Of Horspool, Matthew F.
>> > > Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 11:30 AM
>> > > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > > Subject: RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was -=20
>> Re:=3D3D20  =3D
>> Bug=3D20
>> > >Fixes in JAWS 6.0 =3D3D20  Used DECtalk ACCESS32 for about a=3D20
>> > year and then=3D20
>> > >switched to a=3D3D20  DECtalk USB for to get better broadcast=3D20
>> > clarity.  I=3D20
>> > >certainly=3D3D20  have noticed a huge difference in=20
>> responsiveness:  =3D
>> The=3D20
>> > >DEC=3D3D20  USB is faster - a lot faster!
>> > >=3D3D20
>> > > -------------------------
>> > > Mr. Matthew F. Horspool
>> > > =3D3D20
>> > > Send me an Electronic Mail to
>> > > drjaws@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > > =3D3D20
>> > > Add
>> > > horspool@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > > to your MSN contact list
>> > > =3D3D20
>> > > Or Visit my web site at  http://www.horspool.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk
>> > > -------------------------
>> > >=3D3D20
>> > >=3D3D20
>> > > -----Original Message-----
>> > > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D3D20=20
>> > >[mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of John Miller
>> > > Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 4:20 PM
>> > > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > > Subject: Re: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was -=20
>> Re:=3D3D20  =3D
>> Bug=3D20
>> > >Fixes in JAWS 6.0 =3D3D20 =3D3D20  I don't notice it if so.
>> > > ----- Original Message -----
>> > > From: "Chip Orange" <Corange@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > > Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 10:47 AM
>> > > Subject: RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was -=20
>> Re:=3D3D20  =3D
>> Bug=3D20
>> > >Fixes in =3D3D20  JAWS 6.0 =3D3D20 =3D3D20
>> > > > Yes; and they do use some processor time.  The question=20
>> is that=3D20
>>=20
>> > > > on=3D3D20 todays systems, which usually have plenty of =3D
>> processor=3D3D20
>> > > speed and RAM,=3D3D20
>> > > > does that really make any difference?
>> > > >
>> > > > Now, I know that it does from reports on AT&T Natural=20
>> > > > Voices=3D3D20=3D20 specifically, but I was wondering about=20
>> Eloquence.
>> > > >
>> > > > Thanks.
>> > > >
>> > > > Chip
>> > > >
>> > > > =3D3D3D20
>> > > >
>> > > >> -----Original Message-----
>> > > >> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D3D3D20 =3D3D20
>> > > [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]=3D3D20
>> > > >>On Behalf Of Flor Lynch
>> > > >> Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2004 9:00 PM
>> > > >> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > > >> Subject: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re:=3D3D20
>> > > Bug=3D3D3D20  Fixes
>> > >=3D3D20
>> > > >>in JAWS 6.0 =3D3D3D20
>> > > >> Software synths take up more RAM than hardware ones do.
>> > > >> ----- Original Message -----
>> > > >> From: "Chip Orange" <Corange@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > > >> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > > >> Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2004 2:22 PM
>> > > >> Subject: RE: Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0 =3D3D3D20 =3D3D3D20  Well, =
> no=20
>> > > >>argument with your first point, it is more=3D3D20
>> > > difficult to have =3D3D20
>> > > >>all of the sound coming out of one source; but, when you=3D3D20
>> > > need to use =3D3D20
>> > > >>headphones so as not to disturb someone else, it's also =3D
>> more=3D3D3D20=3D20
>> > > >>=3D3D20 convenient. =3D3D3D20  As for your second, that =
> just=3D20
>> > seems to come=3D20
>> > > >>down to personal=3D3D3D20
>> > =3D3D20
>> > > >>preference  as it doesn't bother me a bit.
>> > > >>=3D3D3D20
>> > > >> There is one which you didn't mention, but which I've=3D3D20
>> > > always wondered =3D3D20
>> > > >>about, and that's how much of a load does Eloquence place=3D3D20
>> > > on=3D3D3D20  your=3D3D20
>> > > >>system  by having the software synth as compared to =
> sending=3D3D20
>> > > the text=3D3D20
>> > > >>to be  spoken out of the serial port?  Anyone have any =
> facts=3D20=20
>> > > >>along=3D3D20 this
>> > > line?
>> > > >>=3D3D3D20
>> > > >> Thanks.
>> > > >>=3D3D3D20
>> > > >> Chip
>> > > >>=3D3D3D20
>> > > >> =3D3D3D3D20
>> > > >>=3D3D3D20
>> > > >> > -----Original Message-----
>> > > >> > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D3D3D3D20=3D3D20
>> > > >> >[mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Kerri
>> > > >> > Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2004 2:04 AM
>> > > >> > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > > >> > Subject: Re: Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0 =3D3D3D3D20  Hello =20
>> Chip. I=3D20
>>=20
>> > > >> >despise software synthesizers mainly=3D3D20
>> > > because=3D3D3D3D20 if=3D3D20
>> > > >> >you are required to listen to other media, I find it=3D20
>> > to=3D3D3D3D20=3D3D20=3D20
>> > > >> >difficult to with a software synthesizer coming through=3D20
>> > the=3D3D3D3D20
>> >=3D20
>> > > >> >=3D3D
>> >=3D20
>> > > >> >same speakers. I also dislike elloquence's voice,=20
>> *all of them*
>> > > >> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > > >> > From: "Chip Orange" <Corange@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > > >> > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > > >> > Sent: Monday, December 27, 2004 12:02 PM
>> > > >> > Subject: RE: Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0 =3D3D3D3D20=20
>> =3D3D3D3D20  I'm=3D20=20
>> > > >> >interested in hearing why, as I use a DT express at=3D3D20
>> > > work,=3D3D3D3D20
>> > >=3D3D20
>> > > >> >and eloquence at home, and really haven't felt there's=3D20
>> > much=3D3D3D3D20
>> >=3D20
>> > > >> >=3D3D
>> >=3D20
>> > > >> >difference.  Perhaps there's just something I'm=3D20
>> > missing? =3D3D3D3D20 =3D20
>> > > >> >Thanks.
>> > > >> >=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > >> > Chip
>> > > >> >=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > >> > =3D3D3D3D3D20
>> > > >> >=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > >> > > -----Original Message-----
>> > > >> > > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D3D3D3D3D20=3D3D20
>> > > >> > >[mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Kerri
>> > > >> > > Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2004 12:17 AM
>> > > >> > > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > > >> > > Subject: Re: Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0 =3D3D3D3D3D20 =20
>> Chris, I=3D3D20
>> > > vehemently=3D3D20
>> > > >> > >despise software synthesizers hence=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > >> > my=3D3D3D3D3D20  dectalk=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > >> > >use and this is the only version that has been =3D3D
>> > rather=3D3D3D3D3D20=3D3D3D20
>> > > >>  sluggish.
>> > > >> > > ----- Original Message -----
>> > > >> > > From: "Chris Skarstad" <toonhead5@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > > >> > > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > > >> > > Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2004 4:15 PM
>> > > >> > > Subject: Re: Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0 =3D3D3D3D3D20=20
>> =3D3D3D3D3D20 =3D
>> =3D3D20
>> > > man I guess=3D3D20
>> > > >> > >I'm very lucky then. This version actually runs =3D3D3D
>> > > > a=3D3D3D3D3D20
>> > > >> =3D3D3D3D20
>> > > >> > >little faster on my system than 5.10 did. Then =
> again=3D3D3D20
>> > > >> I'm=3D3D3D3D3D20  using
>> > > >> =3D3D3D3D
>> > > >> a=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > >> > >hardware synthesizer which is probably the=3D20
>> > reason.=3D3D3D3D3D20  =3D3D3D
>> > > > Never=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > >> > did like=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > >> > >software speech and never will based on =
> what=3D3D3D3D3D20=3D20
>> >  I've=3D3D3D20
>> > > >> seen.  By the
>> > > >> =3D3D3D3D
>> > > >>=3D3D3D20
>> > > >> > >way, the murge feature is there. go to=3D3D3D3D3D20  =
> your=3D20
>> > jaws=3D3D3D20
>> > > >> window with =3D3D3D3D
>> > > >> alt=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > >> > >plus j, press alt u for utilities,=3D3D3D3D3D20  and it's =
> =3D
>> in=3D3D3D20
>> > > >> there. or simply
>> > > >> =3D3D3D3D
>> > > >>=3D3D3D20
>> > > >> > >bring up the context menu if=3D3D3D3D3D20  you're =
> running=3D20
>> > jaws in =3D3D
>> > =3D3D3D
>> > > > the=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > >> > system tray=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > >> > >and go to utilities=3D3D3D3D3D20  and the murge utility=3D20
>> > is there.=3D3D20
>> >=3D20
>> > > >> > >=3D3D3D3D3D20  At 04:29 PM 12/21/2004, you wrote:
>> > > >> > > >Hay, you mean, they haven't fixed any right? I'm=3D3D20
>> > > sorry, I=3D3D3D3D3D20
>> > > >> > > just couldn't=3D3D3D3D3D20
>> > > >> > > >resist. In truth, this has been the worst version =3D
>> I've=3D3D3D20
>> > > >> had the=3D3D3D3D3D20
>> > > >> =3D3D3D3D
>> > > >>=3D3D3D20
>> > > >> > > >misfortune to deal with in a long while. It runs=3D3D3D20
>> > > >> terribley slow,=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > >> > > >I'm=3D3D3D3D3D20 getting false attachments, no merge=3D20
>> > feature=3D3D3D20
>> > > >> anywhere. I=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > >> > > >love=3D3D3D3D3D20
>> > > >> > > spending=3D3D3D3D3D20
>> > > >> > > >money on this "improved" product. Sorry, I'm=20
>> being a grinch.
>> > > >> > > >----- Original Message -----
>> > > >> > > >From: "RJ" <rjf1@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > > >> > > >To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > > >> > > >Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2004 2:16 PM
>> > > >> > > >Subject: Re: Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0
>> > > >> > > >
>> > > >> > > >
>> > > >> > > >You are looking right, there just isn't any bugs.=3D3D20
>> > > Smiling here.
>> > > >> > > >----- Original Message -----
>> > > >> > > >From: "Margaret Thomas" <iluvtoread@xxxxxxx>
>> > > >> > > >To: "jfw" <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > > >> > > >Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2004 4:15 PM
>> > > >> > > >Subject: Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0
>> > > >> > > >
>> > > >> > > >
>> > > >> > > > > Good Afternoon,
>> > > >> > > > >
>> > > >> > > > >     I had a migraine when JAWS 6.0 was released =3D
>> and=3D3D3D20
>> > > >> am trying=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > >> > > > > to=3D3D3D3D3D20 catch up with list mail before=3D3D20
>> > > installing the new =3D3D3D
>> > > > =3D3D3D3D
>> > > >> release.
>> > > >> > > > >
>> > > >> > > > >     I've looked over the What's New section for=20
>> > > >> > > > > 6.0=3D3D20=3D20 and=3D3D3D3D3D20
>> > > >> > > could swear=3D3D3D3D3D20
>> > > >> > > > > that there used to be a section on bug fixes, but I'm =
> =3D
>> =3D3D3D
>> > > > not=3D3D3D3D3D20
>> > > >> > > finding it=3D3D3D3D3D20
>> > > >> > > > > for this version.  Am I having another senior moment, =
> =3D
>> =3D3D3D
>> > > > or=3D3D3D3D3D20
>> > > >> > > did FS not=3D3D3D3D3D20
>> > > >> > > > > do it this time, or am I looking in the wrong=3D3D20
>> > > place on=3D3D3D3D3D20
>> > > >> > > the FS site? =3D3D3D3D3D20
>> > > >> > > > > I've been looking at:
>> > > >> > > > >
>> > > >> > > > >
>> > > >> > >=3D20
>> > >http://www.freedomscientific.com/fs_products/software_jaws60f
>> > > >> > > ea.asp#JAW
>> > > >> > > >S_Features
>> > > >> > > > >
>> > > >> > > > >     Thanks,
>> > > >> > > > > Margaret
>> > > >> > > > > iluvtoread@xxxxxxx
>> > > >> > > > >
>> > > >> > > > > --
>> > > >> > > > > To post a message to the list, send it to=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > >> > jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To=3D3D3D3D3D20=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > >> > > > > unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to
>> > > >> > > >jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe=20
>> > > >> > > >in=3D3D20=3D20 the=3D3D3D3D3D20
>> > > >> > > subject line.
>> > > >> > > > > Archives located at:=3D20
>> > //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
>> > > >> > > > >
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>> > received=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > >> > from the=3D3D3D3D3D20=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > >> > > > > list, or
>> > > >> > > >the way the list is being run, do not post them to=20
>> > > >> > > >the=3D3D20=3D20 list.=3D3D3D3D20 Rather=3D3D3D3D3D20 =
> contact the=20
>> > > >> > > >list owner =3D
>> at=3D3D20=3D20
>> > > >> > > >jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > > >> > > > >
>> > > >> > > >
>> > > >> > > >--
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>> > > >> jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To=3D3D3D3D3D20
>> > > >> =3D3D3D3D
>> > > >>=3D3D3D20
>> > > >> > > >unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a=20
>> message=3D3D20=3D20=20
>> > > >> > > >to=3D3D3D3D3D20=3D3D3D3D20 jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx =
> with=3D20
>> > the word=3D3D20=3D20
>> > > >> > > >unsubscribe in the=3D3D3D3D3D20
>> > > >> > > subject line.
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>> received =3D3D3D
>> > > > from=3D3D3D3D3D20
>> > > >> > > the list,=3D3D3D3D3D20
>> > > >> > > >or the way the list is being run, do not post them =
> to=3D3D20
>> > > the=3D3D3D3D3D20
>> > > >> > > list. Rather=3D3D3D3D3D20
>> > > >> > > >contact the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > > >> > > >
>> > > >> > > >
>> > > >> > > >--
>> > > >> > > >No virus found in this incoming message.
>> > > >> > > >Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.
>> > > >> > > >Version: 7.0.296 / Virus Database: 265.6.3 - =
> Release=3D3D20
>> > > Date:=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > >> > 12/21/2004
>> > > >> > > >
>> > > >> > > >
>> > > >> > > >
>> > > >> > > >
>> > > >> > > >--
>> > > >> > > >No virus found in this outgoing message.
>> > > >> > > >Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.
>> > > >> > > >Version: 7.0.296 / Virus Database: 265.6.3 - =
> Release=3D3D20
>> > > Date:=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > >> > 12/21/2004
>> > > >> > > >
>> > > >> > > >--
>> > > >> > > >To post a message to the list, send it to=3D3D3D20
>> > > >> jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To=3D3D3D3D3D20
>> > > >> =3D3D3D3D
>> > > >>=3D3D3D20
>> > > >> > > >unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a=20
>> message=3D3D20=3D20=20
>> > > >> > > >to=3D3D3D3D3D20=3D3D3D3D20 jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx =
> with=3D20
>> > the word=3D3D20=3D20
>> > > >> > > >unsubscribe in the=3D3D3D3D3D20
>> > > >> > > subject line.
>> > > >> > > >Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
>> > > >> > > >
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>> received =3D3D3D
>> > > > from=3D3D3D3D3D20
>> > > >> > > the list,=3D3D3D3D3D20
>> > > >> > > >or the way the list is being run, do not post them =
> to=3D3D20
>> > > the=3D3D3D3D3D20
>> > > >> > > list. Rather=3D3D3D3D3D20
>> > > >> > > >contact the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > > >> > >=3D3D3D3D3D20
>> > > >> > > --
>> > > >> > > To post a message to the list, send it to=3D3D3D20
>> > > >> jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D3D3D3D3D20  To
>> > > >> =3D3D3D3D
>> > > >>=3D3D3D20
>> > > >> > >unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message=3D3D20
>> > > to=3D3D3D3D3D20 =3D3D3D3D20
>> > >=3D3D20
>> > > >> > >jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe =3D
>> in=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > >> > the=3D3D3D3D3D20  subject=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > >> > >line.
>> > > >> > > Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
>> > > >> > >=3D3D3D3D3D20
>> > > >> > > If you have any concerns about the list, post=20
>> received=3D3D3D20
>> > > >> from=3D3D3D3D3D20  =3D3D3D3D
>> > > >> the=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > >> > >list, or the way the list is being run, do not post=3D3D3D20
>> > > >> them=3D3D3D3D3D20  to the
>> > > >> =3D3D3D3D
>> > > >>=3D3D3D20
>> > > >> > >list. Rather contact the list owner at=3D3D3D3D3D20  =
> =3D3D3D3D
>> > > >> jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > > >> > >=3D3D3D3D3D20
>> > > >> > >=3D3D3D3D3D20
>> > > >> > > --
>> > > >> > > No virus found in this incoming message.
>> > > >> > > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.
>> > > >> > > Version: 7.0.296 / Virus Database: 265.6.3 - Release =3D3D
>> > Date:=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > >> > 12/21/2004=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > >> > >=3D3D3D3D3D20 =3D3D3D3D3D20 =3D3D3D3D3D20 =3D3D3D3D3D20 =20
>> --=3D3D3D3D3D20
>>=20
>> > > >> > >=3D
>>  No=3D20
>> > > >> > >virus=3D3D20
>> > > found in this
>> > >=3D3D20
>> > > >> > >=3D3D3D
>> > > > outgoing =3D3D3D3D
>> > > >> message.
>> > > >> > > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.
>> > > >> > > Version: 7.0.296 / Virus Database: 265.6.3 - Release =3D3D
>> > Date:=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > >> > 12/21/2004=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > >> > >=3D3D3D3D3D20
>> > > >> > > --
>> > > >> > > To post a message to the list, send it to=3D20
>> > jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx  =3D3D
>> > =3D3D3D
>> > > > To=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > >> > >unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message=3D3D20
>> > > to=3D3D3D3D3D20 =3D3D3D3D20
>> > >=3D3D20
>> > > >> > >jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe =3D
>> in=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > >> > the=3D3D3D3D3D20  subject=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > >> > >line.
>> > > >> > > Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
>> > > >> > >=3D3D3D3D3D20
>> > > >> > > If you have any concerns about the list, post=20
>> received=3D3D3D20
>> > > >> from=3D3D3D3D3D20  =3D3D3D3D
>> > > >> the=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > >> > >list, or the way the list is being run, do not post=3D3D3D20
>> > > >> them=3D3D3D3D3D20  to the
>> > > >> =3D3D3D3D
>> > > >>=3D3D3D20
>> > > >> > >list. Rather contact the list owner at=3D3D3D3D3D20  =
> =3D3D3D3D
>> > > >> jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > > >> > >=3D3D3D3D3D20
>> > > >> > --
>> > > >> > To post a message to the list, send it to=3D3D20
>> > > jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D3D3D3D20 To=3D3D20
>> > > >> >unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message =3D
>> to=3D3D3D3D20=3D3D20=3D20
>> > > >> >jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in=3D20=20
>
>> > > >> >the=3D3D3D3D20=3D3D20 subject line.  Archives located at:
>> > > >> >//www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
>> > > >> >=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > >> > If you have any concerns about the list, post received =3D3D
>> > from=3D3D3D3D20=3D3D20
>> > > >> >the list, or the way the list is being run, do not post=3D3D20
>> > > them=3D3D3D3D20 to=3D3D20
>> > > >> >the list. Rather contact the list owner =
> at=3D3D3D3D20=3D3D20=3D20=20
>> > > >> >jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx =3D3D3D3D20 =3D3D3D3D20
>> > > >> > --
>> > > >> > No virus found in this incoming message.
>> > > >> > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.
>> > > >> > Version: 7.0.298 / Virus Database: 265.6.5 - Release =3D
>> Date:=3D3D3D20
>> > > >> 12/26/2004
>> > > >> >=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > >> >=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > >> >=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > >> >=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > >> >=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > >> > --=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > >> > No virus found in this outgoing message.
>> > > >> > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.
>> > > >> > Version: 7.0.298 / Virus Database: 265.6.5 - Release =3D
>> Date:=3D3D3D20
>> > > >> 12/26/2004
>> > > >> >=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > >> > --
>> > > >> > To post a message to the list, send it to=3D20
>> > jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To=3D3D20=3D20
>> > > >> >unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message =3D
>> to=3D3D3D3D20=3D3D20=3D20
>> > > >> >jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in=3D20=20
>
>> > > >> >the=3D3D3D3D20=3D3D20 subject line.  Archives located at:
>> > > >> >//www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
>> > > >> >=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > >> > If you have any concerns about the list, post received =3D3D
>> > from=3D3D3D3D20=3D3D20
>> > > >> >the list, or the way the list is being run, do not post=3D3D20
>> > > them=3D3D3D3D20 to=3D3D20
>> > > >> >the list. Rather contact the list owner =
> at=3D3D3D3D20=3D3D20=3D20=20
>> > > >> >jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx =3D3D3D3D20
>> > > >> --
>> > > >> To post a message to the list, send it to=3D20
>> > jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx  To=3D3D20=3D20
>> > > >>unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message =
> to=3D3D20=3D20=20
>> > > >>jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in=3D3D20
>> > > the=3D3D3D20  subject
>> > >=3D3D20
>> > > >>line.  Archives located at:=20
>> //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
>> > > >>=3D3D3D20
>> > > >> If you have any concerns about the list, post received=3D3D20
>> > > from=3D3D3D20  the=3D3D20
>> > > >>list, or  the way the list is being run, do not post them=3D3D20
>> > > to the list.=3D3D20
>> > > >>Rather  contact the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx =3D
>> =3D3D3D20=3D20
>> > > >>=3D3D3D20
>> > > >> --
>> > > >> To post a message to the list, send it to=3D20
>> > jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx  To=3D3D20=3D20
>> > > >>unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message=20
>> to=3D3D3D20 =3D3D20
>>=20
>> > > >>=3D
>>=20
>> > > >>jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in=3D3D20
>> > > the=3D3D3D20  subject=3D3D20
>> > > >>line.
>> > > >> Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
>> > > >>=3D3D3D20
>> > > >> If you have any concerns about the list, post received=3D3D20
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>> > > >>list, or the way the list is being run, do not post=3D20
>> > them=3D3D3D20  to =3D3D
>> > the=3D3D20
>> > > >>list. Rather contact the list owner at=3D3D3D20  =3D3D
>> > jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > > >>=3D3D3D20
>> > > > --
>> > > > To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx =3D
>> To=3D3D20=3D20
>> > > > unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message =
> to=3D3D20=3D20=20
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>> > > >
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>> > > the list,=3D3D20
>> > > > or the way the list is being run, do not post them to the=3D3D20
>> > > list. Rather=3D3D20
>> > > > contact the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx =3D3D20
>> > >=3D3D20
>> > >=3D3D20
>> > > --
>> > > To post a message to the list, send it to=20
>> jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D3D20  To
>>=20
>> > >=3D
>>=20
>> > >unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message
>> > >to=3D3D20=3D20=20 jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word
>> > >unsubscribe in=3D20
>> > the=3D3D20  subject=3D20
>> > >line.  Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
>> > >=3D3D20
>> > > If you have any concerns about the list, post received=20
>> from=3D3D20  =3D
>> the=3D20
>> > >list, or the way the list is being run, do not post=20
>> them=3D3D20  to the
>>=20
>> > >=3D
>>=20
>> > >list. Rather contact the list owner at=3D3D20  =3D
>> jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > >=3D3D20
>> > >=3D3D20
>> > > --
>> > > To post a message to the list, send it to=20
>> jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D3D20  To
>>=20
>> > >=3D
>>=20
>> > >unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to=3D3D20
>> > >=3D20=20 jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe
>> > >in=3D20
>> > the=3D3D20  subject=3D20
>> > >line.
>> > > Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
>> > >=3D3D20
>> > > If you have any concerns about the list, post received=20
>> from=3D3D20  =3D
>> the=3D20
>> > >list, or the way the list is being run, do not post=20
>> them=3D3D20  to the
>>=20
>> > >=3D
>>=20
>> > >list. Rather contact the list owner at=3D3D20  =3D
>> jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > >=3D3D20
>> > --
>> > To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D20  To
>
>> > =
>
>> >unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to=3D20=20
>> >jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in=20
>> the=3D20  subject=20
>> >line.  Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
>> >=3D20
>> > If you have any concerns about the list, post received from=3D20  =
> the=20
>> >list, or the way the list is being run, do not post them=3D20  to the
>
>> >=
>
>> >list. Rather contact the list owner at=3D20  =
> jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >=3D20
>> > --
>> > To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D20  To
>
>> >=
>
>> >unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to=3D20=20
>> >jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in=20
>> the=3D20  subject=20
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>
> From: "Hal Pearson" <hspearson@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: Oe hotkey won't work in jaws 6.
> Date: Thu, 30 Dec 2004 16:51:00 -0500
>
> Hi Walter, I forgot about that one, and I am a real junky for hotkeys,
> smile. You're right, it doesn't work with jfw 6; focus is lost when I try
> it.
>
> Hal
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Walter Siren" <wsiren@xxxxxxx>
> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 2:13 PM
> Subject: Re: Oe hotkey won't work in jaws 6.
>
>
>> actually, if I tab from the to field, I have to tab four times to get 
>> into
> the messsage body, while with earlier
>> versions of jaws, I only had to tab three times.  Now, I don't have the
> bcc field showing.  I am using windows 98 se.
>> Walter Siren
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: <ptusing@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 11:05 AM
>> Subject: Re: Oe hotkey won't work in jaws 6.
>>
>>
>> > Hi,  Walter,
>> > The  "alt grave"  hot key is onet hing in  Outlook Expressthat doesw 
>> > ork
> for
>> > me with JAWS 6.
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: "Walter Siren" <wsiren@xxxxxxx>
>> > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 11:19 AM
>> > Subject: Oe hotkey won't work in jaws 6.
>> >
>> >
>> > > I recently found a hotkey for OE.  This key is alt+grave, this hotkey
>> > allows one to skip from the to field in  a message
>> > > to the message body.  With jaws 6 however, it doesn't work.  Has
> anybody
>> > else ran across this.
>> > > Walter Siren
>> > >
>> > > ----- Original Message -----
>> > > From: "Horspool, Matthew F." <drjaws@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > > Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 10:04 AM
>> > > Subject: RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re: Bug Fixes
> in
>> > JAWS 6.0
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > > I'm using a 2.53 GHz processor.  I think the other figure was from
> an
>> > > > old laptop.
>> > > > -------------------------
>> > > > Mr. Matthew F. Horspool
>> > > >
>> > > > Send me an Electronic Mail to
>> > > > drjaws@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > > >
>> > > > Add
>> > > > horspool@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > > > to your MSN contact list
>> > > >
>> > > > Or Visit my web site at
>> > > > http://www.horspool.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk
>> > > > -------------------------
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > -----Original Message-----
>> > > > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
>> > > > Behalf Of david poehlman
>> > > > Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 3:23 PM
>> > > > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > > > Subject: Re: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re: Bug
> Fixes in
>> > > > JAWS 6.0
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > What do you get then when you look at system in controll panel?
>> > > >
>> > > > Johnnie Apple Seed
>> > > >
>> > > > ----- Original Message -----
>> > > > From: "Horspool, Matthew F." <drjaws@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > > > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > > > Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 10:13 AM
>> > > > Subject: RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re: Bug
> Fixes in
>> > > >
>> > > > JAWS 6.0
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > Right.  I used the System Information tool and saved in plain text.
>> > > >
>> > > > -------------------------
>> > > > Mr. Matthew F. Horspool
>> > > >
>> > > > Send me an Electronic Mail to
>> > > > drjaws@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > > >
>> > > > Add
>> > > > horspool@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > > > to your MSN contact list
>> > > >
>> > > > Or Visit my web site at http://www.horspool.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk
>> > > > -------------------------
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > -----Original Message-----
>> > > > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
>> > > > Behalf Of david poehlman
>> > > > Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 3:11 PM
>> > > > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > > > Subject: Re: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re: Bug
> Fixes in
>> > > > JAWS 6.0
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > matt,
>> > > >
>> > > > If you go to control panel, open system and read with the jaws
> cursor or
>> > > >
>> > > > ins+b, you are told in plain english what system you have.  I'm not
> sure
>> > > > what you are running to get the result you have below, but thought
> this
>> > > > might help.
>> > > >
>> > > > Johnnie Apple Seed
>> > > >
>> > > > ----- Original Message -----
>> > > > From: "Horspool, Matthew F." <drjaws@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > > > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > > > Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 3:26 AM
>> > > > Subject: RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re: Bug
> Fixes in
>> > > >
>> > > > JAWS 6.0
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > OK, I thought I got it right, but when I interrogated the system
> this
>> > > > line came up:
>> > > > Processor: x86 Family 15 Model 2 Stepping 7 GenuineIntel ~2532 MhZ
>> > > >
>> > > > If I interpreted this line correctly I have a 2532MhZ processor!
>> > > >
>> > > > -------------------------
>> > > > Mr. Matthew F. Horspool
>> > > >
>> > > > Send me an Electronic Mail to
>> > > > drjaws@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > > >
>> > > > Add
>> > > > horspool@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > > > to your MSN contact list
>> > > >
>> > > > Or Visit my web site at http://www.horspool.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk
>> > > > -------------------------
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > -----Original Message-----
>> > > > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
>> > > > Behalf Of Chip Orange
>> > > > Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 5:13 PM
>> > > > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > > > Subject: RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re: Bug
> Fixes in
>> > > > JAWS 6.0
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > If you got that right (and it's not a typo) and your processor 
>> > > > speed
> was
>> > > > only 256 mhz, then I could see why switching to a hardware
> synthesizer
>> > > > had such an improvement for you.  That was quite a load for your
> system.
>> > > >
>> > > > Chip
>> > > >
>> > > > =20
>> > > >
>> > > > > -----Original Message-----
>> > > > > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=20
> [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>> > > > >On Behalf Of Horspool, Matthew F.
>> > > > > Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 12:05 PM
>> > > > > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > > > > Subject: RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re:=20
> Bug
>> > > > >Fixes in JAWS 6.0 =20  Well I had 512MB RAM and about 256MHZ
>> > > > >Processors.  Running at=20  once I had a copy of WinAmp with the
> Audio
>> > > > >stocker and=20  SHOUTcast plugin, Microsoft Outlook, SHOUTcast 
>> > > > >DNAS
>> > > > >(GUI),=20  BVentrilo and the Ventrilo Server, and a copy of JFW.
>> > > > >This=20  slowed down the system quite a bit. =20
>> > > > > -------------------------
>> > > > > Mr. Matthew F. Horspool
>> > > > > =20
>> > > > > Send me an Electronic Mail to
>> > > > > drjaws@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > > > > =20
>> > > > > Add
>> > > > > horspool@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > > > > to your MSN contact list
>> > > > > =20
>> > > > > Or Visit my web site at
>> > > > > http://www.horspool.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk
>> > > > > -------------------------
>> > > > >=20
>> > > > >=20
>> > > > > -----Original Message-----
>> > > > > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=20
>> > > > > [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Chip Orange
>> > > > > Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 4:38 PM
>> > > > > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > > > > Subject: RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re:=20
>> > > > > Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0
>> > > > >=20
>> > > > >=20
>> > > > > Ok,  this is the first opinion which strongly prefers one to=20
>> > > > > another for other than subjective reasons, and I appreciate it.
>> > > > >=20
>> > > > > Would you say the system you were using when you made the=20
>> > > > > switch was unusually slow, short of ram, or overloaded with=20
>> > > > > processing tasks?
>> > > > >=20
>> > > > > Thanks.
>> > > > >=20
>> > > > > Chip
>> > > > >=20
>> > > > > =3D20
>> > > > >=20
>> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
>> > > > > > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D20 =20
>> > > > > [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]=20
>> > > > > >On Behalf Of Horspool, Matthew F.
>> > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 11:30 AM
>> > > > > > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > > > > > Subject: RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - 
>> > > > > > Re:=3D20
> =
>> > > > Bug=20
>> > > > > >Fixes in JAWS 6.0 =3D20  Used DECtalk ACCESS32 for about a=20
>> > > > > year and then=20
>> > > > > >switched to a=3D20  DECtalk USB for to get better broadcast=20
>> > > > > clarity.  I=20
>> > > > > >certainly=3D20  have noticed a huge difference in 
>> > > > > >responsiveness:
> =
>> > > > The=20
>> > > > > >DEC=3D20  USB is faster - a lot faster!
>> > > > > >=3D20
>> > > > > > -------------------------
>> > > > > > Mr. Matthew F. Horspool
>> > > > > > =3D20
>> > > > > > Send me an Electronic Mail to
>> > > > > > drjaws@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > > > > > =3D20
>> > > > > > Add
>> > > > > > horspool@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > > > > > to your MSN contact list
>> > > > > > =3D20
>> > > > > > Or Visit my web site at
> http://www.horspool.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk
>> > > > > > -------------------------
>> > > > > >=3D20
>> > > > > >=3D20
>> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
>> > > > > > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D20
>> > > > > >[mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of John Miller
>> > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 4:20 PM
>> > > > > > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > > > > > Subject: Re: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - 
>> > > > > > Re:=3D20
> =
>> > > > Bug=20
>> > > > > >Fixes in JAWS 6.0 =3D20 =3D20  I don't notice it if so.
>> > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
>> > > > > > From: "Chip Orange" <Corange@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > > > > > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 10:47 AM
>> > > > > > Subject: RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - 
>> > > > > > Re:=3D20
> =
>> > > > Bug=20
>> > > > > >Fixes in =3D20  JAWS 6.0 =3D20 =3D20
>> > > > > > > Yes; and they do use some processor time.  The question is
> that=20
>> > > >
>> > > > > > > on=3D20 todays systems, which usually have plenty of =
>> > > > processor=3D20
>> > > > > > speed and RAM,=3D20
>> > > > > > > does that really make any difference?
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > Now, I know that it does from reports on AT&T Natural
>> > > > > > > Voices=3D20=20 specifically, but I was wondering about
> Eloquence.
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > Thanks.
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > Chip
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > =3D3D20
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > >> -----Original Message-----
>> > > > > > >> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D3D20 =3D20
>> > > > > > [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]=3D20
>> > > > > > >>On Behalf Of Flor Lynch
>> > > > > > >> Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2004 9:00 PM
>> > > > > > >> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > > > > > >> Subject: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re:=3D20
>> > > > > > Bug=3D3D20  Fixes
>> > > > > >=3D20
>> > > > > > >>in JAWS 6.0 =3D3D20
>> > > > > > >> Software synths take up more RAM than hardware ones do.
>> > > > > > >> ----- Original Message -----
>> > > > > > >> From: "Chip Orange" <Corange@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > > > > > >> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > > > > > >> Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2004 2:22 PM
>> > > > > > >> Subject: RE: Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0
>> > > > > > >>=3D3D20
>> > > > > > >>=3D3D20
>> > > > > > >> Well, no argument with your first point, it is more=3D20
>> > > > > > difficult to have =3D20
>> > > > > > >>all of the sound coming out of one source; but, when you=3D20
>> > > > > > need to use =3D20
>> > > > > > >>headphones so as not to disturb someone else, it's also =
>> > > > more=3D3D20=20
>> > > > > > >>=3D20 convenient. =3D3D20  As for your second, that just=20
>> > > > > seems to come=20
>> > > > > > >>down to personal=3D3D20
>> > > > > =3D20
>> > > > > > >>preference  as it doesn't bother me a bit.
>> > > > > > >>=3D3D20
>> > > > > > >> There is one which you didn't mention, but which I've=3D20
>> > > > > > always wondered =3D20
>> > > > > > >>about, and that's how much of a load does Eloquence 
>> > > > > > >>place=3D20
>> > > > > > on=3D3D20  your=3D20
>> > > > > > >>system  by having the software synth as compared to
> sending=3D20
>> > > > > > the text=3D20
>> > > > > > >>to be  spoken out of the serial port?  Anyone have any
> facts=20
>> > > > > > >>along=3D20 this
>> > > > > > line?
>> > > > > > >>=3D3D20
>> > > > > > >> Thanks.
>> > > > > > >>=3D3D20
>> > > > > > >> Chip
>> > > > > > >>=3D3D20
>> > > > > > >> =3D3D3D20
>> > > > > > >>=3D3D20
>> > > > > > >> > -----Original Message-----
>> > > > > > >> > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D3D3D20=3D20
>> > > > > > >> >[mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Kerri
>> > > > > > >> > Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2004 2:04 AM
>> > > > > > >> > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > > > > > >> > Subject: Re: Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0 =3D3D3D20  Hello  Chip.
> I=20
>> > > >
>> > > > > > >> >despise software synthesizers mainly=3D20
>> > > > > > because=3D3D3D20 if=3D20
>> > > > > > >> >you are required to listen to other media, I find it=20
>> > > > > to=3D3D3D20=3D20=20
>> > > > > > >> >difficult to with a software synthesizer coming through=20
>> > > > > the=3D3D3D20
>> > > > >=20
>> > > > > > >> >=3D
>> > > > >=20
>> > > > > > >> >same speakers. I also dislike elloquence's voice, *all of
> them*
>> > > > > > >> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > > > > > >> > From: "Chip Orange" <Corange@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > > > > > >> > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > > > > > >> > Sent: Monday, December 27, 2004 12:02 PM
>> > > > > > >> > Subject: RE: Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0 =3D3D3D20 =3D3D3D20
> I'm=20
>> > > > > > >> >interested in hearing why, as I use a DT express at=3D20
>> > > > > > work,=3D3D3D20
>> > > > > >=3D20
>> > > > > > >> >and eloquence at home, and really haven't felt there's=20
>> > > > > much=3D3D3D20
>> > > > >=20
>> > > > > > >> >=3D
>> > > > >=20
>> > > > > > >> >difference.  Perhaps there's just something I'm=20
>> > > > > missing? =3D3D3D20 =20
>> > > > > > >> >Thanks.
>> > > > > > >> >=3D3D3D20
>> > > > > > >> > Chip
>> > > > > > >> >=3D3D3D20
>> > > > > > >> > =3D3D3D3D20
>> > > > > > >> >=3D3D3D20
>> > > > > > >> > > -----Original Message-----
>> > > > > > >> > > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D3D3D3D20=3D20
>> > > > > > >> > >[mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Kerri
>> > > > > > >> > > Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2004 12:17 AM
>> > > > > > >> > > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > > > > > >> > > Subject: Re: Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0 =3D3D3D3D20  Chris,
> I=3D20
>> > > > > > vehemently=3D20
>> > > > > > >> > >despise software synthesizers hence=3D3D3D20
>> > > > > > >> > my=3D3D3D3D20  dectalk=3D3D3D20
>> > > > > > >> > >use and this is the only version that has been =3D
>> > > > > rather=3D3D3D3D20=3D3D20
>> > > > > > >>  sluggish.
>> > > > > > >> > > ----- Original Message -----
>> > > > > > >> > > From: "Chris Skarstad" <toonhead5@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > > > > > >> > > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > > > > > >> > > Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2004 4:15 PM
>> > > > > > >> > > Subject: Re: Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0 =3D3D3D3D20
> =3D3D3D3D20 =
>> > > > =3D20
>> > > > > > man I guess=3D20
>> > > > > > >> > >I'm very lucky then. This version actually runs =3D3D
>> > > > > > > a=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > > > > >> =3D3D3D20
>> > > > > > >> > >little faster on my system than 5.10 did. Then
> again=3D3D20
>> > > > > > >> I'm=3D3D3D3D20  using
>> > > > > > >> =3D3D3D
>> > > > > > >> a=3D3D3D20
>> > > > > > >> > >hardware synthesizer which is probably the=20
>> > > > > reason.=3D3D3D3D20  =3D3D
>> > > > > > > Never=3D3D3D20
>> > > > > > >> > did like=3D3D3D20
>> > > > > > >> > >software speech and never will based on 
>> > > > > > >> > >what=3D3D3D3D20=20
>> > > > >  I've=3D3D20
>> > > > > > >> seen.  By the
>> > > > > > >> =3D3D3D
>> > > > > > >>=3D3D20
>> > > > > > >> > >way, the murge feature is there. go to=3D3D3D3D20 
>> > > > > > >> > >your=20
>> > > > > jaws=3D3D20
>> > > > > > >> window with =3D3D3D
>> > > > > > >> alt=3D3D3D20
>> > > > > > >> > >plus j, press alt u for utilities,=3D3D3D3D20  and it's =
>> > > > in=3D3D20
>> > > > > > >> there. or simply
>> > > > > > >> =3D3D3D
>> > > > > > >>=3D3D20
>> > > > > > >> > >bring up the context menu if=3D3D3D3D20  you're 
>> > > > > > >> > >running=20
>> > > > > jaws in =3D
>> > > > > =3D3D
>> > > > > > > the=3D3D3D20
>> > > > > > >> > system tray=3D3D3D20
>> > > > > > >> > >and go to utilities=3D3D3D3D20  and the murge utility=20
>> > > > > is there.=3D20
>> > > > >=20
>> > > > > > >> > >=3D3D3D3D20  At 04:29 PM 12/21/2004, you wrote:
>> > > > > > >> > > >Hay, you mean, they haven't fixed any right? I'm=3D20
>> > > > > > sorry, I=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > > > > >> > > just couldn't=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > > > > >> > > >resist. In truth, this has been the worst version =
>> > > > I've=3D3D20
>> > > > > > >> had the=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > > > > >> =3D3D3D
>> > > > > > >>=3D3D20
>> > > > > > >> > > >misfortune to deal with in a long while. It runs=3D3D20
>> > > > > > >> terribley slow,=3D3D3D20
>> > > > > > >> > > >I'm=3D3D3D3D20 getting false attachments, no merge=20
>> > > > > feature=3D3D20
>> > > > > > >> anywhere. I=3D3D3D20
>> > > > > > >> > > >love=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > > > > >> > > spending=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > > > > >> > > >money on this "improved" product. Sorry, I'm being a
> grinch.
>> > > > > > >> > > >----- Original Message -----
>> > > > > > >> > > >From: "RJ" <rjf1@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > > > > > >> > > >To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > > > > > >> > > >Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2004 2:16 PM
>> > > > > > >> > > >Subject: Re: Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0
>> > > > > > >> > > >
>> > > > > > >> > > >
>> > > > > > >> > > >You are looking right, there just isn't any bugs.=3D20
>> > > > > > Smiling here.
>> > > > > > >> > > >----- Original Message -----
>> > > > > > >> > > >From: "Margaret Thomas" <iluvtoread@xxxxxxx>
>> > > > > > >> > > >To: "jfw" <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > > > > > >> > > >Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2004 4:15 PM
>> > > > > > >> > > >Subject: Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0
>> > > > > > >> > > >
>> > > > > > >> > > >
>> > > > > > >> > > > > Good Afternoon,
>> > > > > > >> > > > >
>> > > > > > >> > > > >     I had a migraine when JAWS 6.0 was released =
>> > > > and=3D3D20
>> > > > > > >> am trying=3D3D3D20
>> > > > > > >> > > > > to=3D3D3D3D20 catch up with list mail before=3D20
>> > > > > > installing the new =3D3D
>> > > > > > > =3D3D3D
>> > > > > > >> release.
>> > > > > > >> > > > >
>> > > > > > >> > > > >     I've looked over the What's New section for
>> > > > > > >> > > > > 6.0=3D20=20 and=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > > > > >> > > could swear=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > > > > >> > > > > that there used to be a section on bug fixes, but 
>> > > > > > >> > > > > I'm
> =
>> > > > =3D3D
>> > > > > > > not=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > > > > >> > > finding it=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > > > > >> > > > > for this version.  Am I having another senior 
>> > > > > > >> > > > > moment,
> =
>> > > > =3D3D
>> > > > > > > or=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > > > > >> > > did FS not=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > > > > >> > > > > do it this time, or am I looking in the wrong=3D20
>> > > > > > place on=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > > > > >> > > the FS site? =3D3D3D3D20
>> > > > > > >> > > > > I've been looking at:
>> > > > > > >> > > > >
>> > > > > > >> > > > >
>> > > > > > >> > >=20
>> > > > > >http://www.freedomscientific.com/fs_products/software_jaws60f
>> > > > > > >> > > ea.asp#JAW
>> > > > > > >> > > >S_Features
>> > > > > > >> > > > >
>> > > > > > >> > > > >     Thanks,
>> > > > > > >> > > > > Margaret
>> > > > > > >> > > > > iluvtoread@xxxxxxx
>> > > > > > >> > > > >
>> > > > > > >> > > > > --
>> > > > > > >> > > > > To post a message to the list, send it to=3D3D3D20
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>> > > > > > >> > > > > unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message 
>> > > > > > >> > > > > to
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>> > > > > > >> > > subject line.
>> > > > > > >> > > > > Archives located at:=20
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>> > > > > > >> > from the=3D3D3D3D20=3D3D3D20
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>> > > > > > >> > > >the way the list is being run, do not post them to
>> > > > > > >> > > >the=3D20=20 list.=3D3D3D20 Rather=3D3D3D3D20 contact 
>> > > > > > >> > > >the
>> > > > > > >> > > >list owner =
>> > > > at=3D20=20
>> > > > > > >> > > >jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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>> > > > > > > from=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > > > > >> > > the list,=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > > > > >> > > >or the way the list is being run, do not post them
> to=3D20
>> > > > > > the=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > > > > >> > > list. Rather=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > > > > >> > > >contact the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > > > > > >> > > >
>> > > > > > >> > > >
>> > > > > > >> > > >--
>> > > > > > >> > > >No virus found in this incoming message.
>> > > > > > >> > > >Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.
>> > > > > > >> > > >Version: 7.0.296 / Virus Database: 265.6.3 -
> Release=3D20
>> > > > > > Date:=3D3D3D20
>> > > > > > >> > 12/21/2004
>> > > > > > >> > > >
>> > > > > > >> > > >
>> > > > > > >> > > >
>> > > > > > >> > > >
>> > > > > > >> > > >--
>> > > > > > >> > > >No virus found in this outgoing message.
>> > > > > > >> > > >Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.
>> > > > > > >> > > >Version: 7.0.296 / Virus Database: 265.6.3 -
> Release=3D20
>> > > > > > Date:=3D3D3D20
>> > > > > > >> > 12/21/2004
>> > > > > > >> > > >
>> > > > > > >> > > >--
>> > > > > > >> > > >To post a message to the list, send it to=3D3D20
>> > > > > > >> jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > > > > >> =3D3D3D
>> > > > > > >>=3D3D20
>> > > > > > >> > > >unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a
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>> > > > > > >> > > >to=3D3D3D3D20=3D3D3D20 jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
>> > > > > > >> > > >with=20
>> > > > > the word=3D20=20
>> > > > > > >> > > >unsubscribe in the=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > > > > >> > > subject line.
>> > > > > > >> > > >Archives located at:
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>> > > > > > >> > > >
>> > > > > > >> > > >If you have any concerns about the list, post received
> =3D3D
>> > > > > > > from=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > > > > >> > > the list,=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > > > > >> > > >or the way the list is being run, do not post them
> to=3D20
>> > > > > > the=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > > > > >> > > list. Rather=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > > > > >> > > >contact the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > > > > > >> > >=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > > > > >> > > --
>> > > > > > >> > > To post a message to the list, send it to=3D3D20
>> > > > > > >> jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D3D3D3D20  To
>> > > > > > >> =3D3D3D
>> > > > > > >>=3D3D20
>> > > > > > >> > >unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message=3D20
>> > > > > > to=3D3D3D3D20 =3D3D3D20
>> > > > > >=3D20
>> > > > > > >> > >jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe =
>> > > > in=3D3D3D20
>> > > > > > >> > the=3D3D3D3D20  subject=3D3D3D20
>> > > > > > >> > >line.
>> > > > > > >> > > Archives located at:
> //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
>> > > > > > >> > >=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > > > > >> > > If you have any concerns about the list, post
> received=3D3D20
>> > > > > > >> from=3D3D3D3D20  =3D3D3D
>> > > > > > >> the=3D3D3D20
>> > > > > > >> > >list, or the way the list is being run, do not 
>> > > > > > >> > >post=3D3D20
>> > > > > > >> them=3D3D3D3D20  to the
>> > > > > > >> =3D3D3D
>> > > > > > >>=3D3D20
>> > > > > > >> > >list. Rather contact the list owner at=3D3D3D3D20 
>> > > > > > >> > >=3D3D3D
>> > > > > > >> jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > > > > > >> > >=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > > > > >> > >=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > > > > >> > > --
>> > > > > > >> > > No virus found in this incoming message.
>> > > > > > >> > > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.
>> > > > > > >> > > Version: 7.0.296 / Virus Database: 265.6.3 - Release =3D
>> > > > > Date:=3D3D3D20
>> > > > > > >> > 12/21/2004=3D3D3D20
>> > > > > > >> > >=3D3D3D3D20 =3D3D3D3D20 =3D3D3D3D20
> 3D3D3D3D20  --=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > >
>> > > > > > >> > >=
>> > > >  No=20
>> > > > > > >> > >virus=3D20
>> > > > > > found in this
>> > > > > >=3D20
>> > > > > > >> > >=3D3D
>> > > > > > > outgoing =3D3D3D
>> > > > > > >> message.
>> > > > > > >> > > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.
>> > > > > > >> > > Version: 7.0.296 / Virus Database: 265.6.3 - Release =3D
>> > > > > Date:=3D3D3D20
>> > > > > > >> > 12/21/2004=3D3D3D20
>> > > > > > >> > >=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > > > > >> > > --
>> > > > > > >> > > To post a message to the list, send it to=20
>> > > > > jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx  =3D
>> > > > > =3D3D
>> > > > > > > To=3D3D3D20
>> > > > > > >> > >unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message=3D20
>> > > > > > to=3D3D3D3D20 =3D3D3D20
>> > > > > >=3D20
>> > > > > > >> > >jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe =
>> > > > in=3D3D3D20
>> > > > > > >> > the=3D3D3D3D20  subject=3D3D3D20
>> > > > > > >> > >line.
>> > > > > > >> > > Archives located at:
> //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
>> > > > > > >> > >=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > > > > >> > > If you have any concerns about the list, post
> received=3D3D20
>> > > > > > >> from=3D3D3D3D20  =3D3D3D
>> > > > > > >> the=3D3D3D20
>> > > > > > >> > >list, or the way the list is being run, do not 
>> > > > > > >> > >post=3D3D20
>> > > > > > >> them=3D3D3D3D20  to the
>> > > > > > >> =3D3D3D
>> > > > > > >>=3D3D20
>> > > > > > >> > >list. Rather contact the list owner at=3D3D3D3D20 
>> > > > > > >> > >=3D3D3D
>> > > > > > >> jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > > > > > >> > >=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > > > > >> > --
>> > > > > > >> > To post a message to the list, send it to=3D20
>> > > > > > jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D3D3D20 To=3D20
>> > > > > > >> >unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message =
>> > > > to=3D3D3D20=3D20=20
>> > > > > > >> >jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in=20
>> > > > > > >> >the=3D3D3D20=3D20 subject line.  Archives located at:
>> > > > > > >> >//www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
>> > > > > > >> >=3D3D3D20
>> > > > > > >> > If you have any concerns about the list, post received =3D
>> > > > > from=3D3D3D20=3D20
>> > > > > > >> >the list, or the way the list is being run, do not 
>> > > > > > >> >post=3D20
>> > > > > > them=3D3D3D20 to=3D20
>> > > > > > >> >the list. Rather contact the list owner at=3D3D3D20=3D20=20
>> > > > > > >> >jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx =3D3D3D20 =3D3D3D20
>> > > > > > >> > --
>> > > > > > >> > No virus found in this incoming message.
>> > > > > > >> > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.
>> > > > > > >> > Version: 7.0.298 / Virus Database: 265.6.5 - Release =
>> > > > Date:=3D3D20
>> > > > > > >> 12/26/2004
>> > > > > > >> >=3D3D3D20
>> > > > > > >> >=3D3D3D20
>> > > > > > >> >=3D3D3D20
>> > > > > > >> >=3D3D3D20
>> > > > > > >> >=3D3D3D20
>> > > > > > >> > --=3D3D3D20
>> > > > > > >> > No virus found in this outgoing message.
>> > > > > > >> > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.
>> > > > > > >> > Version: 7.0.298 / Virus Database: 265.6.5 - Release =
>> > > > Date:=3D3D20
>> > > > > > >> 12/26/2004
>> > > > > > >> >=3D3D3D20
>> > > > > > >> > --
>> > > > > > >> > To post a message to the list, send it to=20
>> > > > > jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To=3D20=20
>> > > > > > >> >unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message =
>> > > > to=3D3D3D20=3D20=20
>> > > > > > >> >jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in=20
>> > > > > > >> >the=3D3D3D20=3D20 subject line.  Archives located at:
>> > > > > > >> >//www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
>> > > > > > >> >=3D3D3D20
>> > > > > > >> > If you have any concerns about the list, post received =3D
>> > > > > from=3D3D3D20=3D20
>> > > > > > >> >the list, or the way the list is being run, do not 
>> > > > > > >> >post=3D20
>> > > > > > them=3D3D3D20 to=3D20
>> > > > > > >> >the list. Rather contact the list owner at=3D3D3D20=3D20=20
>> > > > > > >> >jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx =3D3D3D20
>> > > > > > >> --
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>> > > > > jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx  To=3D20=20
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>> > > > > > >>jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in=3D20
>> > > > > > the=3D3D20  subject
>> > > > > >=3D20
>> > > > > > >>line.  Archives located at:
> //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
>> > > > > > >>=3D3D20
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>> > > > > > >>them=3D20
>> > > > > > to the list.=3D20
>> > > > > > >>Rather  contact the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx =
>> > > > =3D3D20=20
>> > > > > > >>=3D3D20
>> > > > > > >> --
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>> > > > > > >>unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to=3D3D20
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>> > > >
>> > > > > > >>=
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>> > > > > > >>jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in=3D20
>> > > > > > the=3D3D20  subject=3D20
>> > > > > > >>line.
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>> > > > > > >>=3D3D20
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>> > > > > them=3D3D20  to =3D
>> > > > > the=3D20
>> > > > > > >>list. Rather contact the list owner at=3D3D20  =3D
>> > > > > jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > > > > > >>=3D3D20
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>> > > > > > > the=3D20
>> > > > > > list. Rather=3D20
>> > > > > > > contact the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > > > > > >=3D20
>> > > > > >=3D20
>> > > > > >=3D20
>> > > > > > --
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> To
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>> > > >
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>> > > > > >to
> the
>> > > >
>> > > > > >=
>> > > >
>> > > > > >list. Rather contact the list owner at=3D20  =
>> > > > jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > > > > >=3D20
>> > > > > >=3D20
>> > > > > > --
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>> > > > > > jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D20
> To
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>> > > >
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> =
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> the
>> > > >
>> > > > > >=
>> > > >
>> > > > > >list. Rather contact the list owner at=3D20  =
>> > > > jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > > > > >=3D20
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> jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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>
> From: "Hal Pearson" <hspearson@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: move to message field script
> Date: Thu, 30 Dec 2004 17:03:48 -0500
>
> Hi walter and list,
>
> I think I can kind of explain what is going on with alt grauve key. When
> sitting in the to field, I then press hotkey to move to the edit field. 
> What
> happens is that jfw loses focus, and I have to then alt tab to move to the
> edit field. this hotkey works with jfw V 5.1, and 4.51.
>
> Hal
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> From: "ron McEwan" <blindboy56@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: Oe hotkey won't work in jaws 6.
> Date: Thu, 30 Dec 2004 15:13:28 -0700
>
> This hotkey works fine for me in both 5.1 and 6.0.
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Hal Pearson" <hspearson@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 2:51 PM
> Subject: Re: Oe hotkey won't work in jaws 6.
>
>
>> Hi Walter, I forgot about that one, and I am a real junky for hotkeys,
>> smile. You're right, it doesn't work with jfw 6; focus is lost when I try
>> it.
>>
>> Hal
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Walter Siren" <wsiren@xxxxxxx>
>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 2:13 PM
>> Subject: Re: Oe hotkey won't work in jaws 6.
>>
>>
>> > actually, if I tab from the to field, I have to tab four times to get
> into
>> the messsage body, while with earlier
>> > versions of jaws, I only had to tab three times.  Now, I don't have the
>> bcc field showing.  I am using windows 98 se.
>> > Walter Siren
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: <ptusing@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 11:05 AM
>> > Subject: Re: Oe hotkey won't work in jaws 6.
>> >
>> >
>> > > Hi,  Walter,
>> > > The  "alt grave"  hot key is onet hing in  Outlook Expressthat doesw
> ork
>> for
>> > > me with JAWS 6.
>> > >
>> > > ----- Original Message -----
>> > > From: "Walter Siren" <wsiren@xxxxxxx>
>> > > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > > Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 11:19 AM
>> > > Subject: Oe hotkey won't work in jaws 6.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > > I recently found a hotkey for OE.  This key is alt+grave, this
> hotkey
>> > > allows one to skip from the to field in  a message
>> > > > to the message body.  With jaws 6 however, it doesn't work.  Has
>> anybody
>> > > else ran across this.
>> > > > Walter Siren
>> > > >
>> > > > ----- Original Message -----
>> > > > From: "Horspool, Matthew F." <drjaws@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > > > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > > > Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 10:04 AM
>> > > > Subject: RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re: Bug
> Fixes
>> in
>> > > JAWS 6.0
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > > I'm using a 2.53 GHz processor.  I think the other figure was 
>> > > > > from
>> an
>> > > > > old laptop.
>> > > > > -------------------------
>> > > > > Mr. Matthew F. Horspool
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Send me an Electronic Mail to
>> > > > > drjaws@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Add
>> > > > > horspool@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > > > > to your MSN contact list
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Or Visit my web site at
>> > > > > http://www.horspool.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk
>> > > > > -------------------------
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > -----Original Message-----
>> > > > > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> On
>> > > > > Behalf Of david poehlman
>> > > > > Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 3:23 PM
>> > > > > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > > > > Subject: Re: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re: Bug
>> Fixes in
>> > > > > JAWS 6.0
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > What do you get then when you look at system in controll panel?
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Johnnie Apple Seed
>> > > > >
>> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
>> > > > > From: "Horspool, Matthew F." <drjaws@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > > > > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > > > > Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 10:13 AM
>> > > > > Subject: RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re: Bug
>> Fixes in
>> > > > >
>> > > > > JAWS 6.0
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Right.  I used the System Information tool and saved in plain
> text.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > -------------------------
>> > > > > Mr. Matthew F. Horspool
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Send me an Electronic Mail to
>> > > > > drjaws@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Add
>> > > > > horspool@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > > > > to your MSN contact list
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Or Visit my web site at http://www.horspool.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk
>> > > > > -------------------------
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > -----Original Message-----
>> > > > > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> On
>> > > > > Behalf Of david poehlman
>> > > > > Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 3:11 PM
>> > > > > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > > > > Subject: Re: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re: Bug
>> Fixes in
>> > > > > JAWS 6.0
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > matt,
>> > > > >
>> > > > > If you go to control panel, open system and read with the jaws
>> cursor or
>> > > > >
>> > > > > ins+b, you are told in plain english what system you have.  I'm
> not
>> sure
>> > > > > what you are running to get the result you have below, but 
>> > > > > thought
>> this
>> > > > > might help.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Johnnie Apple Seed
>> > > > >
>> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
>> > > > > From: "Horspool, Matthew F." <drjaws@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > > > > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > > > > Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 3:26 AM
>> > > > > Subject: RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re: Bug
>> Fixes in
>> > > > >
>> > > > > JAWS 6.0
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > OK, I thought I got it right, but when I interrogated the system
>> this
>> > > > > line came up:
>> > > > > Processor: x86 Family 15 Model 2 Stepping 7 GenuineIntel ~2532 
>> > > > > MhZ
>> > > > >
>> > > > > If I interpreted this line correctly I have a 2532MhZ processor!
>> > > > >
>> > > > > -------------------------
>> > > > > Mr. Matthew F. Horspool
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Send me an Electronic Mail to
>> > > > > drjaws@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Add
>> > > > > horspool@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > > > > to your MSN contact list
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Or Visit my web site at http://www.horspool.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk
>> > > > > -------------------------
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > -----Original Message-----
>> > > > > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> On
>> > > > > Behalf Of Chip Orange
>> > > > > Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 5:13 PM
>> > > > > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > > > > Subject: RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re: Bug
>> Fixes in
>> > > > > JAWS 6.0
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > If you got that right (and it's not a typo) and your processor
> speed
>> was
>> > > > > only 256 mhz, then I could see why switching to a hardware
>> synthesizer
>> > > > > had such an improvement for you.  That was quite a load for your
>> system.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Chip
>> > > > >
>> > > > > =20
>> > > > >
>> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
>> > > > > > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=20
>> [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>> > > > > >On Behalf Of Horspool, Matthew F.
>> > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 12:05 PM
>> > > > > > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > > > > > Subject: RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re:=20
>> Bug
>> > > > > >Fixes in JAWS 6.0 =20  Well I had 512MB RAM and about 256MHZ
>> > > > > >Processors.  Running at=20  once I had a copy of WinAmp with the
>> Audio
>> > > > > >stocker and=20  SHOUTcast plugin, Microsoft Outlook, SHOUTcast
> DNAS
>> > > > > >(GUI),=20  BVentrilo and the Ventrilo Server, and a copy of JFW.
>> > > > > >This=20  slowed down the system quite a bit. =20
>> > > > > > -------------------------
>> > > > > > Mr. Matthew F. Horspool
>> > > > > > =20
>> > > > > > Send me an Electronic Mail to
>> > > > > > drjaws@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > > > > > =20
>> > > > > > Add
>> > > > > > horspool@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > > > > > to your MSN contact list
>> > > > > > =20
>> > > > > > Or Visit my web site at
>> > > > > > http://www.horspool.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk
>> > > > > > -------------------------
>> > > > > >=20
>> > > > > >=20
>> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
>> > > > > > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=20
>> > > > > > [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Chip Orange
>> > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 4:38 PM
>> > > > > > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > > > > > Subject: RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re:=20
>> > > > > > Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0
>> > > > > >=20
>> > > > > >=20
>> > > > > > Ok,  this is the first opinion which strongly prefers one to=20
>> > > > > > another for other than subjective reasons, and I appreciate it.
>> > > > > >=20
>> > > > > > Would you say the system you were using when you made the=20
>> > > > > > switch was unusually slow, short of ram, or overloaded with=20
>> > > > > > processing tasks?
>> > > > > >=20
>> > > > > > Thanks.
>> > > > > >=20
>> > > > > > Chip
>> > > > > >=20
>> > > > > > =3D20
>> > > > > >=20
>> > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
>> > > > > > > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D20 =20
>> > > > > > [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]=20
>> > > > > > >On Behalf Of Horspool, Matthew F.
>> > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 11:30 AM
>> > > > > > > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > > > > > > Subject: RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was -
> Re:=3D20
>> =
>> > > > > Bug=20
>> > > > > > >Fixes in JAWS 6.0 =3D20  Used DECtalk ACCESS32 for about a=20
>> > > > > > year and then=20
>> > > > > > >switched to a=3D20  DECtalk USB for to get better broadcast=20
>> > > > > > clarity.  I=20
>> > > > > > >certainly=3D20  have noticed a huge difference in
> responsiveness:
>> =
>> > > > > The=20
>> > > > > > >DEC=3D20  USB is faster - a lot faster!
>> > > > > > >=3D20
>> > > > > > > -------------------------
>> > > > > > > Mr. Matthew F. Horspool
>> > > > > > > =3D20
>> > > > > > > Send me an Electronic Mail to
>> > > > > > > drjaws@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > > > > > > =3D20
>> > > > > > > Add
>> > > > > > > horspool@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > > > > > > to your MSN contact list
>> > > > > > > =3D20
>> > > > > > > Or Visit my web site at
>> http://www.horspool.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk
>> > > > > > > -------------------------
>> > > > > > >=3D20
>> > > > > > >=3D20
>> > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
>> > > > > > > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D20
>> > > > > > >[mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of John Miller
>> > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 4:20 PM
>> > > > > > > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > > > > > > Subject: Re: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was -
> Re:=3D20
>> =
>> > > > > Bug=20
>> > > > > > >Fixes in JAWS 6.0 =3D20 =3D20  I don't notice it if so.
>> > > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
>> > > > > > > From: "Chip Orange" <Corange@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > > > > > > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 10:47 AM
>> > > > > > > Subject: RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was -
> Re:=3D20
>> =
>> > > > > Bug=20
>> > > > > > >Fixes in =3D20  JAWS 6.0 =3D20 =3D20
>> > > > > > > > Yes; and they do use some processor time.  The question is
>> that=20
>> > > > >
>> > > > > > > > on=3D20 todays systems, which usually have plenty of =
>> > > > > processor=3D20
>> > > > > > > speed and RAM,=3D20
>> > > > > > > > does that really make any difference?
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > Now, I know that it does from reports on AT&T Natural
>> > > > > > > > Voices=3D20=20 specifically, but I was wondering about
>> Eloquence.
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > Thanks.
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > Chip
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > =3D3D20
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > >> -----Original Message-----
>> > > > > > > >> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D3D20 =3D20
>> > > > > > > [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]=3D20
>> > > > > > > >>On Behalf Of Flor Lynch
>> > > > > > > >> Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2004 9:00 PM
>> > > > > > > >> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > > > > > > >> Subject: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was -
> Re:=3D20
>> > > > > > > Bug=3D3D20  Fixes
>> > > > > > >=3D20
>> > > > > > > >>in JAWS 6.0 =3D3D20
>> > > > > > > >> Software synths take up more RAM than hardware ones do.
>> > > > > > > >> ----- Original Message -----
>> > > > > > > >> From: "Chip Orange" <Corange@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > > > > > > >> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > > > > > > >> Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2004 2:22 PM
>> > > > > > > >> Subject: RE: Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0
>> > > > > > > >>=3D3D20
>> > > > > > > >>=3D3D20
>> > > > > > > >> Well, no argument with your first point, it is more=3D20
>> > > > > > > difficult to have =3D20
>> > > > > > > >>all of the sound coming out of one source; but, when
> you=3D20
>> > > > > > > need to use =3D20
>> > > > > > > >>headphones so as not to disturb someone else, it's also =
>> > > > > more=3D3D20=20
>> > > > > > > >>=3D20 convenient. =3D3D20  As for your second, that just=20
>> > > > > > seems to come=20
>> > > > > > > >>down to personal=3D3D20
>> > > > > > =3D20
>> > > > > > > >>preference  as it doesn't bother me a bit.
>> > > > > > > >>=3D3D20
>> > > > > > > >> There is one which you didn't mention, but which I've=3D20
>> > > > > > > always wondered =3D20
>> > > > > > > >>about, and that's how much of a load does Eloquence
> place=3D20
>> > > > > > > on=3D3D20  your=3D20
>> > > > > > > >>system  by having the software synth as compared to
>> sending=3D20
>> > > > > > > the text=3D20
>> > > > > > > >>to be  spoken out of the serial port?  Anyone have any
>> facts=20
>> > > > > > > >>along=3D20 this
>> > > > > > > line?
>> > > > > > > >>=3D3D20
>> > > > > > > >> Thanks.
>> > > > > > > >>=3D3D20
>> > > > > > > >> Chip
>> > > > > > > >>=3D3D20
>> > > > > > > >> =3D3D3D20
>> > > > > > > >>=3D3D20
>> > > > > > > >> > -----Original Message-----
>> > > > > > > >> > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D3D3D20=3D20
>> > > > > > > >> >[mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Kerri
>> > > > > > > >> > Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2004 2:04 AM
>> > > > > > > >> > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > > > > > > >> > Subject: Re: Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0 =3D3D3D20  Hello
> Chip.
>> I=20
>> > > > >
>> > > > > > > >> >despise software synthesizers mainly=3D20
>> > > > > > > because=3D3D3D20 if=3D20
>> > > > > > > >> >you are required to listen to other media, I find it=20
>> > > > > > to=3D3D3D20=3D20=20
>> > > > > > > >> >difficult to with a software synthesizer coming 
>> > > > > > > >> >through=20
>> > > > > > the=3D3D3D20
>> > > > > >=20
>> > > > > > > >> >=3D
>> > > > > >=20
>> > > > > > > >> >same speakers. I also dislike elloquence's voice, *all of
>> them*
>> > > > > > > >> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > > > > > > >> > From: "Chip Orange" <Corange@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > > > > > > >> > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > > > > > > >> > Sent: Monday, December 27, 2004 12:02 PM
>> > > > > > > >> > Subject: RE: Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0 =3D3D3D20 =3D3D3D20
>> I'm=20
>> > > > > > > >> >interested in hearing why, as I use a DT express at=3D20
>> > > > > > > work,=3D3D3D20
>> > > > > > >=3D20
>> > > > > > > >> >and eloquence at home, and really haven't felt there's=20
>> > > > > > much=3D3D3D20
>> > > > > >=20
>> > > > > > > >> >=3D
>> > > > > >=20
>> > > > > > > >> >difference.  Perhaps there's just something I'm=20
>> > > > > > missing? =3D3D3D20 =20
>> > > > > > > >> >Thanks.
>> > > > > > > >> >=3D3D3D20
>> > > > > > > >> > Chip
>> > > > > > > >> >=3D3D3D20
>> > > > > > > >> > =3D3D3D3D20
>> > > > > > > >> >=3D3D3D20
>> > > > > > > >> > > -----Original Message-----
>> > > > > > > >> > > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D3D3D3D20=3D20
>> > > > > > > >> > >[mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Kerri
>> > > > > > > >> > > Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2004 12:17 AM
>> > > > > > > >> > > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > > > > > > >> > > Subject: Re: Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0 =3D3D3D3D20  Chris,
>> I=3D20
>> > > > > > > vehemently=3D20
>> > > > > > > >> > >despise software synthesizers hence=3D3D3D20
>> > > > > > > >> > my=3D3D3D3D20  dectalk=3D3D3D20
>> > > > > > > >> > >use and this is the only version that has been =3D
>> > > > > > rather=3D3D3D3D20=3D3D20
>> > > > > > > >>  sluggish.
>> > > > > > > >> > > ----- Original Message -----
>> > > > > > > >> > > From: "Chris Skarstad" <toonhead5@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > > > > > > >> > > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > > > > > > >> > > Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2004 4:15 PM
>> > > > > > > >> > > Subject: Re: Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0 =3D3D3D3D20
>> =3D3D3D3D20 =
>> > > > > =3D20
>> > > > > > > man I guess=3D20
>> > > > > > > >> > >I'm very lucky then. This version actually runs =3D3D
>> > > > > > > > a=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > > > > > >> =3D3D3D20
>> > > > > > > >> > >little faster on my system than 5.10 did. Then
>> again=3D3D20
>> > > > > > > >> I'm=3D3D3D3D20  using
>> > > > > > > >> =3D3D3D
>> > > > > > > >> a=3D3D3D20
>> > > > > > > >> > >hardware synthesizer which is probably the=20
>> > > > > > reason.=3D3D3D3D20  =3D3D
>> > > > > > > > Never=3D3D3D20
>> > > > > > > >> > did like=3D3D3D20
>> > > > > > > >> > >software speech and never will based on
> what=3D3D3D3D20=20
>> > > > > >  I've=3D3D20
>> > > > > > > >> seen.  By the
>> > > > > > > >> =3D3D3D
>> > > > > > > >>=3D3D20
>> > > > > > > >> > >way, the murge feature is there. go to=3D3D3D3D20
> your=20
>> > > > > > jaws=3D3D20
>> > > > > > > >> window with =3D3D3D
>> > > > > > > >> alt=3D3D3D20
>> > > > > > > >> > >plus j, press alt u for utilities,=3D3D3D3D20  and it's
> =
>> > > > > in=3D3D20
>> > > > > > > >> there. or simply
>> > > > > > > >> =3D3D3D
>> > > > > > > >>=3D3D20
>> > > > > > > >> > >bring up the context menu if=3D3D3D3D20  you're
> running=20
>> > > > > > jaws in =3D
>> > > > > > =3D3D
>> > > > > > > > the=3D3D3D20
>> > > > > > > >> > system tray=3D3D3D20
>> > > > > > > >> > >and go to utilities=3D3D3D3D20  and the murge 
>> > > > > > > >> > >utility=20
>> > > > > > is there.=3D20
>> > > > > >=20
>> > > > > > > >> > >=3D3D3D3D20  At 04:29 PM 12/21/2004, you wrote:
>> > > > > > > >> > > >Hay, you mean, they haven't fixed any right? I'm=3D20
>> > > > > > > sorry, I=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > > > > > >> > > just couldn't=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > > > > > >> > > >resist. In truth, this has been the worst version =
>> > > > > I've=3D3D20
>> > > > > > > >> had the=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > > > > > >> =3D3D3D
>> > > > > > > >>=3D3D20
>> > > > > > > >> > > >misfortune to deal with in a long while. It
> runs=3D3D20
>> > > > > > > >> terribley slow,=3D3D3D20
>> > > > > > > >> > > >I'm=3D3D3D3D20 getting false attachments, no merge=20
>> > > > > > feature=3D3D20
>> > > > > > > >> anywhere. I=3D3D3D20
>> > > > > > > >> > > >love=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > > > > > >> > > spending=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > > > > > >> > > >money on this "improved" product. Sorry, I'm being a
>> grinch.
>> > > > > > > >> > > >----- Original Message -----
>> > > > > > > >> > > >From: "RJ" <rjf1@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > > > > > > >> > > >To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > > > > > > >> > > >Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2004 2:16 PM
>> > > > > > > >> > > >Subject: Re: Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0
>> > > > > > > >> > > >
>> > > > > > > >> > > >
>> > > > > > > >> > > >You are looking right, there just isn't any 
>> > > > > > > >> > > >bugs.=3D20
>> > > > > > > Smiling here.
>> > > > > > > >> > > >----- Original Message -----
>> > > > > > > >> > > >From: "Margaret Thomas" <iluvtoread@xxxxxxx>
>> > > > > > > >> > > >To: "jfw" <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > > > > > > >> > > >Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2004 4:15 PM
>> > > > > > > >> > > >Subject: Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0
>> > > > > > > >> > > >
>> > > > > > > >> > > >
>> > > > > > > >> > > > > Good Afternoon,
>> > > > > > > >> > > > >
>> > > > > > > >> > > > >     I had a migraine when JAWS 6.0 was released =
>> > > > > and=3D3D20
>> > > > > > > >> am trying=3D3D3D20
>> > > > > > > >> > > > > to=3D3D3D3D20 catch up with list mail before=3D20
>> > > > > > > installing the new =3D3D
>> > > > > > > > =3D3D3D
>> > > > > > > >> release.
>> > > > > > > >> > > > >
>> > > > > > > >> > > > >     I've looked over the What's New section for
>> > > > > > > >> > > > > 6.0=3D20=20 and=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > > > > > >> > > could swear=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > > > > > >> > > > > that there used to be a section on bug fixes, but
> I'm
>> =
>> > > > > =3D3D
>> > > > > > > > not=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > > > > > >> > > finding it=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > > > > > >> > > > > for this version.  Am I having another senior
> moment,
>> =
>> > > > > =3D3D
>> > > > > > > > or=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > > > > > >> > > did FS not=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > > > > > >> > > > > do it this time, or am I looking in the wrong=3D20
>> > > > > > > place on=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > > > > > >> > > the FS site? =3D3D3D3D20
>> > > > > > > >> > > > > I've been looking at:
>> > > > > > > >> > > > >
>> > > > > > > >> > > > >
>> > > > > > > >> > >=20
>> > > > > > >http://www.freedomscientific.com/fs_products/software_jaws60f
>> > > > > > > >> > > ea.asp#JAW
>> > > > > > > >> > > >S_Features
>> > > > > > > >> > > > >
>> > > > > > > >> > > > >     Thanks,
>> > > > > > > >> > > > > Margaret
>> > > > > > > >> > > > > iluvtoread@xxxxxxx
>> > > > > > > >> > > > >
>> > > > > > > >> > > > > --
>> > > > > > > >> > > > > To post a message to the list, send it to=3D3D3D20
>> > > > > > > >> > jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To=3D3D3D3D20=3D3D3D20
>> > > > > > > >> > > > > unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message
> to
>> > > > > > > >> > > >jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe
>> > > > > > > >> > > >in=3D20=20 the=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > > > > > >> > > subject line.
>> > > > > > > >> > > > > Archives located at:=20
>> > > > > > //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
>> > > > > > > >> > > > >
>> > > > > > > >> > > > > If you have any concerns about the list, post =3D
>> > > > > > received=3D3D3D20
>> > > > > > > >> > from the=3D3D3D3D20=3D3D3D20
>> > > > > > > >> > > > > list, or
>> > > > > > > >> > > >the way the list is being run, do not post them to
>> > > > > > > >> > > >the=3D20=20 list.=3D3D3D20 Rather=3D3D3D3D20 contact
> the
>> > > > > > > >> > > >list owner =
>> > > > > at=3D20=20
>> > > > > > > >> > > >jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > > > > > > >> > > > >
>> > > > > > > >> > > >
>> > > > > > > >> > > >--
>> > > > > > > >> > > >To post a message to the list, send it to=3D3D20
>> > > > > > > >> jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > > > > > >> =3D3D3D
>> > > > > > > >>=3D3D20
>> > > > > > > >> > > >unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a
>> message=3D20=20
>> > > > > > > >> > > >to=3D3D3D3D20=3D3D3D20 jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> with=20
>> > > > > > the word=3D20=20
>> > > > > > > >> > > >unsubscribe in the=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > > > > > >> > > subject line.
>> > > > > > > >> > > >Archives located at:
>> //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
>> > > > > > > >> > > >
>> > > > > > > >> > > >If you have any concerns about the list, post 
>> > > > > > > >> > > >received
>> =3D3D
>> > > > > > > > from=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > > > > > >> > > the list,=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > > > > > >> > > >or the way the list is being run, do not post them
>> to=3D20
>> > > > > > > the=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > > > > > >> > > list. Rather=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > > > > > >> > > >contact the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > > > > > > >> > > >
>> > > > > > > >> > > >
>> > > > > > > >> > > >--
>> > > > > > > >> > > >No virus found in this incoming message.
>> > > > > > > >> > > >Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.
>> > > > > > > >> > > >Version: 7.0.296 / Virus Database: 265.6.3 -
>> Release=3D20
>> > > > > > > Date:=3D3D3D20
>> > > > > > > >> > 12/21/2004
>> > > > > > > >> > > >
>> > > > > > > >> > > >
>> > > > > > > >> > > >
>> > > > > > > >> > > >
>> > > > > > > >> > > >--
>> > > > > > > >> > > >No virus found in this outgoing message.
>> > > > > > > >> > > >Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.
>> > > > > > > >> > > >Version: 7.0.296 / Virus Database: 265.6.3 -
>> Release=3D20
>> > > > > > > Date:=3D3D3D20
>> > > > > > > >> > 12/21/2004
>> > > > > > > >> > > >
>> > > > > > > >> > > >--
>> > > > > > > >> > > >To post a message to the list, send it to=3D3D20
>> > > > > > > >> jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > > > > > >> =3D3D3D
>> > > > > > > >>=3D3D20
>> > > > > > > >> > > >unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a
>> message=3D20=20
>> > > > > > > >> > > >to=3D3D3D3D20=3D3D3D20 jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> with=20
>> > > > > > the word=3D20=20
>> > > > > > > >> > > >unsubscribe in the=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > > > > > >> > > subject line.
>> > > > > > > >> > > >Archives located at:
>> //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
>> > > > > > > >> > > >
>> > > > > > > >> > > >If you have any concerns about the list, post 
>> > > > > > > >> > > >received
>> =3D3D
>> > > > > > > > from=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > > > > > >> > > the list,=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > > > > > >> > > >or the way the list is being run, do not post them
>> to=3D20
>> > > > > > > the=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > > > > > >> > > list. Rather=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > > > > > >> > > >contact the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > > > > > > >> > >=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > > > > > >> > > --
>> > > > > > > >> > > To post a message to the list, send it to=3D3D20
>> > > > > > > >> jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D3D3D3D20  To
>> > > > > > > >> =3D3D3D
>> > > > > > > >>=3D3D20
>> > > > > > > >> > >unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message=3D20
>> > > > > > > to=3D3D3D3D20 =3D3D3D20
>> > > > > > >=3D20
>> > > > > > > >> > >jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe =
>> > > > > in=3D3D3D20
>> > > > > > > >> > the=3D3D3D3D20  subject=3D3D3D20
>> > > > > > > >> > >line.
>> > > > > > > >> > > Archives located at:
>> //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
>> > > > > > > >> > >=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > > > > > >> > > If you have any concerns about the list, post
>> received=3D3D20
>> > > > > > > >> from=3D3D3D3D20  =3D3D3D
>> > > > > > > >> the=3D3D3D20
>> > > > > > > >> > >list, or the way the list is being run, do not
> post=3D3D20
>> > > > > > > >> them=3D3D3D3D20  to the
>> > > > > > > >> =3D3D3D
>> > > > > > > >>=3D3D20
>> > > > > > > >> > >list. Rather contact the list owner at=3D3D3D3D20
> =3D3D3D
>> > > > > > > >> jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > > > > > > >> > >=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > > > > > >> > >=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > > > > > >> > > --
>> > > > > > > >> > > No virus found in this incoming message.
>> > > > > > > >> > > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.
>> > > > > > > >> > > Version: 7.0.296 / Virus Database: 265.6.3 - Release
> =3D
>> > > > > > Date:=3D3D3D20
>> > > > > > > >> > 12/21/2004=3D3D3D20
>> > > > > > > >> > >=3D3D3D3D20 =3D3D3D3D20 =3D3D3D3D20
>> 3D3D3D3D20  --=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > > >
>> > > > > > > >> > >=
>> > > > >  No=20
>> > > > > > > >> > >virus=3D20
>> > > > > > > found in this
>> > > > > > >=3D20
>> > > > > > > >> > >=3D3D
>> > > > > > > > outgoing =3D3D3D
>> > > > > > > >> message.
>> > > > > > > >> > > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.
>> > > > > > > >> > > Version: 7.0.296 / Virus Database: 265.6.3 - Release
> =3D
>> > > > > > Date:=3D3D3D20
>> > > > > > > >> > 12/21/2004=3D3D3D20
>> > > > > > > >> > >=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > > > > > >> > > --
>> > > > > > > >> > > To post a message to the list, send it to=20
>> > > > > > jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx  =3D
>> > > > > > =3D3D
>> > > > > > > > To=3D3D3D20
>> > > > > > > >> > >unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message=3D20
>> > > > > > > to=3D3D3D3D20 =3D3D3D20
>> > > > > > >=3D20
>> > > > > > > >> > >jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe =
>> > > > > in=3D3D3D20
>> > > > > > > >> > the=3D3D3D3D20  subject=3D3D3D20
>> > > > > > > >> > >line.
>> > > > > > > >> > > Archives located at:
>> //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
>> > > > > > > >> > >=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > > > > > >> > > If you have any concerns about the list, post
>> received=3D3D20
>> > > > > > > >> from=3D3D3D3D20  =3D3D3D
>> > > > > > > >> the=3D3D3D20
>> > > > > > > >> > >list, or the way the list is being run, do not
> post=3D3D20
>> > > > > > > >> them=3D3D3D3D20  to the
>> > > > > > > >> =3D3D3D
>> > > > > > > >>=3D3D20
>> > > > > > > >> > >list. Rather contact the list owner at=3D3D3D3D20
> =3D3D3D
>> > > > > > > >> jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > > > > > > >> > >=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > > > > > >> > --
>> > > > > > > >> > To post a message to the list, send it to=3D20
>> > > > > > > jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D3D3D20 To=3D20
>> > > > > > > >> >unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message =
>> > > > > to=3D3D3D20=3D20=20
>> > > > > > > >> >jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in=20
>> > > > > > > >> >the=3D3D3D20=3D20 subject line.  Archives located at:
>> > > > > > > >> >//www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
>> > > > > > > >> >=3D3D3D20
>> > > > > > > >> > If you have any concerns about the list, post received
> =3D
>> > > > > > from=3D3D3D20=3D20
>> > > > > > > >> >the list, or the way the list is being run, do not
> post=3D20
>> > > > > > > them=3D3D3D20 to=3D20
>> > > > > > > >> >the list. Rather contact the list owner
> at=3D3D3D20=3D20=20
>> > > > > > > >> >jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx =3D3D3D20 =3D3D3D20
>> > > > > > > >> > --
>> > > > > > > >> > No virus found in this incoming message.
>> > > > > > > >> > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.
>> > > > > > > >> > Version: 7.0.298 / Virus Database: 265.6.5 - Release =
>> > > > > Date:=3D3D20
>> > > > > > > >> 12/26/2004
>> > > > > > > >> >=3D3D3D20
>> > > > > > > >> >=3D3D3D20
>> > > > > > > >> >=3D3D3D20
>> > > > > > > >> >=3D3D3D20
>> > > > > > > >> >=3D3D3D20
>> > > > > > > >> > --=3D3D3D20
>> > > > > > > >> > No virus found in this outgoing message.
>> > > > > > > >> > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.
>> > > > > > > >> > Version: 7.0.298 / Virus Database: 265.6.5 - Release =
>> > > > > Date:=3D3D20
>> > > > > > > >> 12/26/2004
>> > > > > > > >> >=3D3D3D20
>> > > > > > > >> > --
>> > > > > > > >> > To post a message to the list, send it to=20
>> > > > > > jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To=3D20=20
>> > > > > > > >> >unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message =
>> > > > > to=3D3D3D20=3D20=20
>> > > > > > > >> >jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in=20
>> > > > > > > >> >the=3D3D3D20=3D20 subject line.  Archives located at:
>> > > > > > > >> >//www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
>> > > > > > > >> >=3D3D3D20
>> > > > > > > >> > If you have any concerns about the list, post received
> =3D
>> > > > > > from=3D3D3D20=3D20
>> > > > > > > >> >the list, or the way the list is being run, do not
> post=3D20
>> > > > > > > them=3D3D3D20 to=3D20
>> > > > > > > >> >the list. Rather contact the list owner
> at=3D3D3D20=3D20=20
>> > > > > > > >> >jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx =3D3D3D20
>> > > > > > > >> --
>> > > > > > > >> To post a message to the list, send it to=20
>> > > > > > jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx  To=3D20=20
>> > > > > > > >>unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message
> to=3D20=20
>> > > > > > > >>jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in=3D20
>> > > > > > > the=3D3D20  subject
>> > > > > > >=3D20
>> > > > > > > >>line.  Archives located at:
>> //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
>> > > > > > > >>=3D3D20
>> > > > > > > >> If you have any concerns about the list, post 
>> > > > > > > >> received=3D20
>> > > > > > > from=3D3D20  the=3D20
>> > > > > > > >>list, or  the way the list is being run, do not post
> them=3D20
>> > > > > > > to the list.=3D20
>> > > > > > > >>Rather  contact the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> =
>> > > > > =3D3D20=20
>> > > > > > > >>=3D3D20
>> > > > > > > >> --
>> > > > > > > >> To post a message to the list, send it to=20
>> > > > > > jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx  To=3D20=20
>> > > > > > > >>unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message 
>> > > > > > > >>to=3D3D20
>> =3D20
>> > > > >
>> > > > > > > >>=
>> > > > >
>> > > > > > > >>jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in=3D20
>> > > > > > > the=3D3D20  subject=3D20
>> > > > > > > >>line.
>> > > > > > > >> Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
>> > > > > > > >>=3D3D20
>> > > > > > > >> If you have any concerns about the list, post 
>> > > > > > > >> received=3D20
>> > > > > > > from=3D3D20  the=3D20
>> > > > > > > >>list, or the way the list is being run, do not post=20
>> > > > > > them=3D3D20  to =3D
>> > > > > > the=3D20
>> > > > > > > >>list. Rather contact the list owner at=3D3D20  =3D
>> > > > > > jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > > > > > > >>=3D3D20
>> > > > > > > > --
>> > > > > > > > To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> =
>> > > > > To=3D20=20
>> > > > > > > > unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message
> to=3D20=20
>> > > > > > > > jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in
> the=20
>> > > > > > > > subject=3D20 line. Archives located at:
>> > > > > > > > //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > If you have any concerns about the list, post received
>> from=3D20
>> > > > > > > the list,=3D20
>> > > > > > > > or the way the list is being run, do not post them to
> the=3D20
>> > > > > > > list. Rather=3D20
>> > > > > > > > contact the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > > > > > > >=3D20
>> > > > > > >=3D20
>> > > > > > >=3D20
>> > > > > > > --
>> > > > > > > To post a message to the list, send it to
> jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D20
>> To
>> > > > >
>> > > > > > >=
>> > > > >
>> > > > > > >unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to=3D20=20
>> > > > > > >jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in=20
>> > > > > > the=3D20  subject=20
>> > > > > > >line.  Archives located at:
> //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
>> > > > > > >=3D20
>> > > > > > > If you have any concerns about the list, post received
> from=3D20
>> =
>> > > > > the=20
>> > > > > > >list, or the way the list is being run, do not post them=3D20
> to
>> the
>> > > > >
>> > > > > > >=
>> > > > >
>> > > > > > >list. Rather contact the list owner at=3D20  =
>> > > > > jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > > > > > >=3D20
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>
> From: "shelly christner" <shelly4jericho@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: I am still confused about using windows media player with jaws 
> five po
> Date: Thu, 30 Dec 2004 16:21:27 -0600
>
> Hello there,
> Okay the windows media player info that i have gotten is still confusing 
> to
> me.
> Are there any other free programs that i could use to burn music with jaws
> if windows media player is to hard to figure out.
> I have only had my computer for a month.
> the windows media player came with my computer.
> I dont no where any of that burning cd commands are at.
> Thank you all for helping me,
> shelly
>
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> From: "TerriLynne" <terri_lynne@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: Jfw and faxes
> Date: Thu, 30 Dec 2004 15:24:19 -0700
>
> Hi Jed,
> I love Mighty Fax. I have used it quite a bit and have had no problems 
> with
> it.
>
> After you download an install the program, this is how you use it with a
> dial-up modem.
>
> Make sure your computer is not connected, or online. Then you either 
> create
> your document in a word processor, or open an already prepared document. 
> Hit
> ctrl+p for print. Go to the box the specifies printer, and choose Mighty
> Fax. Hit enter, and the program will walk you through putting together a
> cover sheet. Then it connects and sends the document.
>
> HTH,
>
> TerriLynne
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> From: "Flor Lynch" <florlync@xxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: Oe hotkey won't work in jaws 6.
> Date: Thu, 30 Dec 2004 22:56:19 -0000
>
> Walter: Try Ctrl+Grave.  That might do it.
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Walter Siren" <wsiren@xxxxxxx>
> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 7:13 PM
> Subject: Re: Oe hotkey won't work in jaws 6.
>
>
> actually, if I tab from the to field, I have to tab four times to get
> into the messsage body, while with earlier
> versions of jaws, I only had to tab three times.  Now, I don't have the
> bcc field showing.  I am using windows 98 se.
> Walter Siren
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>>From: <ptusing@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 11:05 AM
> Subject: Re: Oe hotkey won't work in jaws 6.
>
>
>> Hi,  Walter,
>> The  "alt grave"  hot key is onet hing in  Outlook Expressthat doesw
> ork for
>> me with JAWS 6.
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Walter Siren" <wsiren@xxxxxxx>
>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 11:19 AM
>> Subject: Oe hotkey won't work in jaws 6.
>>
>>
>> > I recently found a hotkey for OE.  This key is alt+grave, this
> hotkey
>> allows one to skip from the to field in  a message
>> > to the message body.  With jaws 6 however, it doesn't work.  Has
> anybody
>> else ran across this.
>> > Walter Siren
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: "Horspool, Matthew F." <drjaws@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 10:04 AM
>> > Subject: RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re: Bug
> Fixes in
>> JAWS 6.0
>> >
>> >
>> > > I'm using a 2.53 GHz processor.  I think the other figure was from
> an
>> > > old laptop.
>> > > -------------------------
>> > > Mr. Matthew F. Horspool
>> > >
>> > > Send me an Electronic Mail to
>> > > drjaws@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > >
>> > > Add
>> > > horspool@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > > to your MSN contact list
>> > >
>> > > Or Visit my web site at
>> > > http://www.horspool.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk
>> > > -------------------------
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > -----Original Message-----
>> > > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> On
>> > > Behalf Of david poehlman
>> > > Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 3:23 PM
>> > > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > > Subject: Re: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re: Bug
> Fixes in
>> > > JAWS 6.0
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > What do you get then when you look at system in controll panel?
>> > >
>> > > Johnnie Apple Seed
>> > >
>> > > ----- Original Message -----
>> > > From: "Horspool, Matthew F." <drjaws@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > > Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 10:13 AM
>> > > Subject: RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re: Bug
> Fixes in
>> > >
>> > > JAWS 6.0
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Right.  I used the System Information tool and saved in plain
> text.
>> > >
>> > > -------------------------
>> > > Mr. Matthew F. Horspool
>> > >
>> > > Send me an Electronic Mail to
>> > > drjaws@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > >
>> > > Add
>> > > horspool@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > > to your MSN contact list
>> > >
>> > > Or Visit my web site at http://www.horspool.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk
>> > > -------------------------
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > -----Original Message-----
>> > > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> On
>> > > Behalf Of david poehlman
>> > > Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 3:11 PM
>> > > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > > Subject: Re: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re: Bug
> Fixes in
>> > > JAWS 6.0
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > matt,
>> > >
>> > > If you go to control panel, open system and read with the jaws
> cursor or
>> > >
>> > > ins+b, you are told in plain english what system you have.  I'm
> not sure
>> > > what you are running to get the result you have below, but thought
> this
>> > > might help.
>> > >
>> > > Johnnie Apple Seed
>> > >
>> > > ----- Original Message -----
>> > > From: "Horspool, Matthew F." <drjaws@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > > Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 3:26 AM
>> > > Subject: RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re: Bug
> Fixes in
>> > >
>> > > JAWS 6.0
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > OK, I thought I got it right, but when I interrogated the system
> this
>> > > line came up:
>> > > Processor: x86 Family 15 Model 2 Stepping 7 GenuineIntel ~2532 MhZ
>> > >
>> > > If I interpreted this line correctly I have a 2532MhZ processor!
>> > >
>> > > -------------------------
>> > > Mr. Matthew F. Horspool
>> > >
>> > > Send me an Electronic Mail to
>> > > drjaws@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > >
>> > > Add
>> > > horspool@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > > to your MSN contact list
>> > >
>> > > Or Visit my web site at http://www.horspool.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk
>> > > -------------------------
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > -----Original Message-----
>> > > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> On
>> > > Behalf Of Chip Orange
>> > > Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 5:13 PM
>> > > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > > Subject: RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re: Bug
> Fixes in
>> > > JAWS 6.0
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > If you got that right (and it's not a typo) and your processor
> speed was
>> > > only 256 mhz, then I could see why switching to a hardware
> synthesizer
>> > > had such an improvement for you.  That was quite a load for your
> system.
>> > >
>> > > Chip
>> > >
>> > > =20
>> > >
>> > > > -----Original Message-----
>> > > > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=20
> [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>> > > >On Behalf Of Horspool, Matthew F.
>> > > > Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 12:05 PM
>> > > > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > > > Subject: RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re:=20
> Bug
>> > > >Fixes in JAWS 6.0 =20  Well I had 512MB RAM and about 256MHZ
>> > > >Processors.  Running at=20  once I had a copy of WinAmp with the
> Audio
>> > > >stocker and=20  SHOUTcast plugin, Microsoft Outlook, SHOUTcast
> DNAS
>> > > >(GUI),=20  BVentrilo and the Ventrilo Server, and a copy of JFW.
>> > > >This=20  slowed down the system quite a bit. =20
>> > > > -------------------------
>> > > > Mr. Matthew F. Horspool
>> > > > =20
>> > > > Send me an Electronic Mail to
>> > > > drjaws@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > > > =20
>> > > > Add
>> > > > horspool@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > > > to your MSN contact list
>> > > > =20
>> > > > Or Visit my web site at
>> > > > http://www.horspool.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk
>> > > > -------------------------
>> > > >=20
>> > > >=20
>> > > > -----Original Message-----
>> > > > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=20
>> > > > [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Chip Orange
>> > > > Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 4:38 PM
>> > > > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > > > Subject: RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re:=20
>> > > > Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0
>> > > >=20
>> > > >=20
>> > > > Ok,  this is the first opinion which strongly prefers one to=20
>> > > > another for other than subjective reasons, and I appreciate it.
>> > > >=20
>> > > > Would you say the system you were using when you made the=20
>> > > > switch was unusually slow, short of ram, or overloaded with=20
>> > > > processing tasks?
>> > > >=20
>> > > > Thanks.
>> > > >=20
>> > > > Chip
>> > > >=20
>> > > > =3D20
>> > > >=20
>> > > > > -----Original Message-----
>> > > > > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D20 =20
>> > > > [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]=20
>> > > > >On Behalf Of Horspool, Matthew F.
>> > > > > Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 11:30 AM
>> > > > > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > > > > Subject: RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was -
> Re:=3D20  =
>> > > Bug=20
>> > > > >Fixes in JAWS 6.0 =3D20  Used DECtalk ACCESS32 for about a=20
>> > > > year and then=20
>> > > > >switched to a=3D20  DECtalk USB for to get better broadcast=20
>> > > > clarity.  I=20
>> > > > >certainly=3D20  have noticed a huge difference in
> responsiveness:  =
>> > > The=20
>> > > > >DEC=3D20  USB is faster - a lot faster!
>> > > > >=3D20
>> > > > > -------------------------
>> > > > > Mr. Matthew F. Horspool
>> > > > > =3D20
>> > > > > Send me an Electronic Mail to
>> > > > > drjaws@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > > > > =3D20
>> > > > > Add
>> > > > > horspool@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > > > > to your MSN contact list
>> > > > > =3D20
>> > > > > Or Visit my web site at
> http://www.horspool.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk
>> > > > > -------------------------
>> > > > >=3D20
>> > > > >=3D20
>> > > > > -----Original Message-----
>> > > > > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D20
>> > > > >[mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of John Miller
>> > > > > Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 4:20 PM
>> > > > > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > > > > Subject: Re: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was -
> Re:=3D20  =
>> > > Bug=20
>> > > > >Fixes in JAWS 6.0 =3D20 =3D20  I don't notice it if so.
>> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
>> > > > > From: "Chip Orange" <Corange@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > > > > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > > > > Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 10:47 AM
>> > > > > Subject: RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was -
> Re:=3D20  =
>> > > Bug=20
>> > > > >Fixes in =3D20  JAWS 6.0 =3D20 =3D20
>> > > > > > Yes; and they do use some processor time.  The question is
> that=20
>> > >
>> > > > > > on=3D20 todays systems, which usually have plenty of =
>> > > processor=3D20
>> > > > > speed and RAM,=3D20
>> > > > > > does that really make any difference?
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Now, I know that it does from reports on AT&T Natural
>> > > > > > Voices=3D20=20 specifically, but I was wondering about
> Eloquence.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Thanks.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Chip
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > =3D3D20
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >> -----Original Message-----
>> > > > > >> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D3D20 =3D20
>> > > > > [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]=3D20
>> > > > > >>On Behalf Of Flor Lynch
>> > > > > >> Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2004 9:00 PM
>> > > > > >> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > > > > >> Subject: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was -
> Re:=3D20
>> > > > > Bug=3D3D20  Fixes
>> > > > >=3D20
>> > > > > >>in JAWS 6.0 =3D3D20
>> > > > > >> Software synths take up more RAM than hardware ones do.
>> > > > > >> ----- Original Message -----
>> > > > > >> From: "Chip Orange" <Corange@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > > > > >> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > > > > >> Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2004 2:22 PM
>> > > > > >> Subject: RE: Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0
>> > > > > >>=3D3D20
>> > > > > >>=3D3D20
>> > > > > >> Well, no argument with your first point, it is more=3D20
>> > > > > difficult to have =3D20
>> > > > > >>all of the sound coming out of one source; but, when
> you=3D20
>> > > > > need to use =3D20
>> > > > > >>headphones so as not to disturb someone else, it's also =
>> > > more=3D3D20=20
>> > > > > >>=3D20 convenient. =3D3D20  As for your second, that just=20
>> > > > seems to come=20
>> > > > > >>down to personal=3D3D20
>> > > > =3D20
>> > > > > >>preference  as it doesn't bother me a bit.
>> > > > > >>=3D3D20
>> > > > > >> There is one which you didn't mention, but which I've=3D20
>> > > > > always wondered =3D20
>> > > > > >>about, and that's how much of a load does Eloquence
> place=3D20
>> > > > > on=3D3D20  your=3D20
>> > > > > >>system  by having the software synth as compared to
> sending=3D20
>> > > > > the text=3D20
>> > > > > >>to be  spoken out of the serial port?  Anyone have any
> facts=20
>> > > > > >>along=3D20 this
>> > > > > line?
>> > > > > >>=3D3D20
>> > > > > >> Thanks.
>> > > > > >>=3D3D20
>> > > > > >> Chip
>> > > > > >>=3D3D20
>> > > > > >> =3D3D3D20
>> > > > > >>=3D3D20
>> > > > > >> > -----Original Message-----
>> > > > > >> > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D3D3D20=3D20
>> > > > > >> >[mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Kerri
>> > > > > >> > Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2004 2:04 AM
>> > > > > >> > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > > > > >> > Subject: Re: Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0 =3D3D3D20  Hello
> Chip. I=20
>> > >
>> > > > > >> >despise software synthesizers mainly=3D20
>> > > > > because=3D3D3D20 if=3D20
>> > > > > >> >you are required to listen to other media, I find it=20
>> > > > to=3D3D3D20=3D20=20
>> > > > > >> >difficult to with a software synthesizer coming through=20
>> > > > the=3D3D3D20
>> > > >=20
>> > > > > >> >=3D
>> > > >=20
>> > > > > >> >same speakers. I also dislike elloquence's voice, *all of
> them*
>> > > > > >> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > > > > >> > From: "Chip Orange" <Corange@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > > > > >> > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > > > > >> > Sent: Monday, December 27, 2004 12:02 PM
>> > > > > >> > Subject: RE: Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0 =3D3D3D20 =3D3D3D20
> I'm=20
>> > > > > >> >interested in hearing why, as I use a DT express at=3D20
>> > > > > work,=3D3D3D20
>> > > > >=3D20
>> > > > > >> >and eloquence at home, and really haven't felt there's=20
>> > > > much=3D3D3D20
>> > > >=20
>> > > > > >> >=3D
>> > > >=20
>> > > > > >> >difference.  Perhaps there's just something I'm=20
>> > > > missing? =3D3D3D20 =20
>> > > > > >> >Thanks.
>> > > > > >> >=3D3D3D20
>> > > > > >> > Chip
>> > > > > >> >=3D3D3D20
>> > > > > >> > =3D3D3D3D20
>> > > > > >> >=3D3D3D20
>> > > > > >> > > -----Original Message-----
>> > > > > >> > > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D3D3D3D20=3D20
>> > > > > >> > >[mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Kerri
>> > > > > >> > > Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2004 12:17 AM
>> > > > > >> > > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > > > > >> > > Subject: Re: Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0 =3D3D3D3D20  Chris,
> I=3D20
>> > > > > vehemently=3D20
>> > > > > >> > >despise software synthesizers hence=3D3D3D20
>> > > > > >> > my=3D3D3D3D20  dectalk=3D3D3D20
>> > > > > >> > >use and this is the only version that has been =3D
>> > > > rather=3D3D3D3D20=3D3D20
>> > > > > >>  sluggish.
>> > > > > >> > > ----- Original Message -----
>> > > > > >> > > From: "Chris Skarstad" <toonhead5@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > > > > >> > > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > > > > >> > > Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2004 4:15 PM
>> > > > > >> > > Subject: Re: Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0 =3D3D3D3D20
> =3D3D3D3D20 =
>> > > =3D20
>> > > > > man I guess=3D20
>> > > > > >> > >I'm very lucky then. This version actually runs =3D3D
>> > > > > > a=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > > > >> =3D3D3D20
>> > > > > >> > >little faster on my system than 5.10 did. Then
> again=3D3D20
>> > > > > >> I'm=3D3D3D3D20  using
>> > > > > >> =3D3D3D
>> > > > > >> a=3D3D3D20
>> > > > > >> > >hardware synthesizer which is probably the=20
>> > > > reason.=3D3D3D3D20  =3D3D
>> > > > > > Never=3D3D3D20
>> > > > > >> > did like=3D3D3D20
>> > > > > >> > >software speech and never will based on
> what=3D3D3D3D20=20
>> > > >  I've=3D3D20
>> > > > > >> seen.  By the
>> > > > > >> =3D3D3D
>> > > > > >>=3D3D20
>> > > > > >> > >way, the murge feature is there. go to=3D3D3D3D20
> your=20
>> > > > jaws=3D3D20
>> > > > > >> window with =3D3D3D
>> > > > > >> alt=3D3D3D20
>> > > > > >> > >plus j, press alt u for utilities,=3D3D3D3D20  and it's
> =
>> > > in=3D3D20
>> > > > > >> there. or simply
>> > > > > >> =3D3D3D
>> > > > > >>=3D3D20
>> > > > > >> > >bring up the context menu if=3D3D3D3D20  you're
> running=20
>> > > > jaws in =3D
>> > > > =3D3D
>> > > > > > the=3D3D3D20
>> > > > > >> > system tray=3D3D3D20
>> > > > > >> > >and go to utilities=3D3D3D3D20  and the murge utility=20
>> > > > is there.=3D20
>> > > >=20
>> > > > > >> > >=3D3D3D3D20  At 04:29 PM 12/21/2004, you wrote:
>> > > > > >> > > >Hay, you mean, they haven't fixed any right? I'm=3D20
>> > > > > sorry, I=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > > > >> > > just couldn't=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > > > >> > > >resist. In truth, this has been the worst version =
>> > > I've=3D3D20
>> > > > > >> had the=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > > > >> =3D3D3D
>> > > > > >>=3D3D20
>> > > > > >> > > >misfortune to deal with in a long while. It
> runs=3D3D20
>> > > > > >> terribley slow,=3D3D3D20
>> > > > > >> > > >I'm=3D3D3D3D20 getting false attachments, no merge=20
>> > > > feature=3D3D20
>> > > > > >> anywhere. I=3D3D3D20
>> > > > > >> > > >love=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > > > >> > > spending=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > > > >> > > >money on this "improved" product. Sorry, I'm being a
> grinch.
>> > > > > >> > > >----- Original Message -----
>> > > > > >> > > >From: "RJ" <rjf1@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > > > > >> > > >To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > > > > >> > > >Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2004 2:16 PM
>> > > > > >> > > >Subject: Re: Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0
>> > > > > >> > > >
>> > > > > >> > > >
>> > > > > >> > > >You are looking right, there just isn't any bugs.=3D20
>> > > > > Smiling here.
>> > > > > >> > > >----- Original Message -----
>> > > > > >> > > >From: "Margaret Thomas" <iluvtoread@xxxxxxx>
>> > > > > >> > > >To: "jfw" <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > > > > >> > > >Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2004 4:15 PM
>> > > > > >> > > >Subject: Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0
>> > > > > >> > > >
>> > > > > >> > > >
>> > > > > >> > > > > Good Afternoon,
>> > > > > >> > > > >
>> > > > > >> > > > >     I had a migraine when JAWS 6.0 was released =
>> > > and=3D3D20
>> > > > > >> am trying=3D3D3D20
>> > > > > >> > > > > to=3D3D3D3D20 catch up with list mail before=3D20
>> > > > > installing the new =3D3D
>> > > > > > =3D3D3D
>> > > > > >> release.
>> > > > > >> > > > >
>> > > > > >> > > > >     I've looked over the What's New section for
>> > > > > >> > > > > 6.0=3D20=20 and=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > > > >> > > could swear=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > > > >> > > > > that there used to be a section on bug fixes, but
> I'm =
>> > > =3D3D
>> > > > > > not=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > > > >> > > finding it=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > > > >> > > > > for this version.  Am I having another senior
> moment, =
>> > > =3D3D
>> > > > > > or=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > > > >> > > did FS not=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > > > >> > > > > do it this time, or am I looking in the wrong=3D20
>> > > > > place on=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > > > >> > > the FS site? =3D3D3D3D20
>> > > > > >> > > > > I've been looking at:
>> > > > > >> > > > >
>> > > > > >> > > > >
>> > > > > >> > >=20
>> > > > >http://www.freedomscientific.com/fs_products/software_jaws60f
>> > > > > >> > > ea.asp#JAW
>> > > > > >> > > >S_Features
>> > > > > >> > > > >
>> > > > > >> > > > >     Thanks,
>> > > > > >> > > > > Margaret
>> > > > > >> > > > > iluvtoread@xxxxxxx
>> > > > > >> > > > >
>> > > > > >> > > > > --
>> > > > > >> > > > > To post a message to the list, send it to=3D3D3D20
>> > > > > >> > jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To=3D3D3D3D20=3D3D3D20
>> > > > > >> > > > > unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message
> to
>> > > > > >> > > >jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe
>> > > > > >> > > >in=3D20=20 the=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > > > >> > > subject line.
>> > > > > >> > > > > Archives located at:=20
>> > > > //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
>> > > > > >> > > > >
>> > > > > >> > > > > If you have any concerns about the list, post =3D
>> > > > received=3D3D3D20
>> > > > > >> > from the=3D3D3D3D20=3D3D3D20
>> > > > > >> > > > > list, or
>> > > > > >> > > >the way the list is being run, do not post them to
>> > > > > >> > > >the=3D20=20 list.=3D3D3D20 Rather=3D3D3D3D20 contact
> the
>> > > > > >> > > >list owner =
>> > > at=3D20=20
>> > > > > >> > > >jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > > > > >> > > > >
>> > > > > >> > > >
>> > > > > >> > > >--
>> > > > > >> > > >To post a message to the list, send it to=3D3D20
>> > > > > >> jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > > > >> =3D3D3D
>> > > > > >>=3D3D20
>> > > > > >> > > >unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a
> message=3D20=20
>> > > > > >> > > >to=3D3D3D3D20=3D3D3D20 jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> with=20
>> > > > the word=3D20=20
>> > > > > >> > > >unsubscribe in the=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > > > >> > > subject line.
>> > > > > >> > > >Archives located at:
> //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
>> > > > > >> > > >
>> > > > > >> > > >If you have any concerns about the list, post received
> =3D3D
>> > > > > > from=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > > > >> > > the list,=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > > > >> > > >or the way the list is being run, do not post them
> to=3D20
>> > > > > the=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > > > >> > > list. Rather=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > > > >> > > >contact the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > > > > >> > > >
>> > > > > >> > > >
>> > > > > >> > > >--
>> > > > > >> > > >No virus found in this incoming message.
>> > > > > >> > > >Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.
>> > > > > >> > > >Version: 7.0.296 / Virus Database: 265.6.3 -
> Release=3D20
>> > > > > Date:=3D3D3D20
>> > > > > >> > 12/21/2004
>> > > > > >> > > >
>> > > > > >> > > >
>> > > > > >> > > >
>> > > > > >> > > >
>> > > > > >> > > >--
>> > > > > >> > > >No virus found in this outgoing message.
>> > > > > >> > > >Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.
>> > > > > >> > > >Version: 7.0.296 / Virus Database: 265.6.3 -
> Release=3D20
>> > > > > Date:=3D3D3D20
>> > > > > >> > 12/21/2004
>> > > > > >> > > >
>> > > > > >> > > >--
>> > > > > >> > > >To post a message to the list, send it to=3D3D20
>> > > > > >> jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > > > >> =3D3D3D
>> > > > > >>=3D3D20
>> > > > > >> > > >unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a
> message=3D20=20
>> > > > > >> > > >to=3D3D3D3D20=3D3D3D20 jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> with=20
>> > > > the word=3D20=20
>> > > > > >> > > >unsubscribe in the=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > > > >> > > subject line.
>> > > > > >> > > >Archives located at:
> //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
>> > > > > >> > > >
>> > > > > >> > > >If you have any concerns about the list, post received
> =3D3D
>> > > > > > from=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > > > >> > > the list,=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > > > >> > > >or the way the list is being run, do not post them
> to=3D20
>> > > > > the=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > > > >> > > list. Rather=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > > > >> > > >contact the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > > > > >> > >=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > > > >> > > --
>> > > > > >> > > To post a message to the list, send it to=3D3D20
>> > > > > >> jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D3D3D3D20  To
>> > > > > >> =3D3D3D
>> > > > > >>=3D3D20
>> > > > > >> > >unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message=3D20
>> > > > > to=3D3D3D3D20 =3D3D3D20
>> > > > >=3D20
>> > > > > >> > >jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe =
>> > > in=3D3D3D20
>> > > > > >> > the=3D3D3D3D20  subject=3D3D3D20
>> > > > > >> > >line.
>> > > > > >> > > Archives located at:
> //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
>> > > > > >> > >=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > > > >> > > If you have any concerns about the list, post
> received=3D3D20
>> > > > > >> from=3D3D3D3D20  =3D3D3D
>> > > > > >> the=3D3D3D20
>> > > > > >> > >list, or the way the list is being run, do not
> post=3D3D20
>> > > > > >> them=3D3D3D3D20  to the
>> > > > > >> =3D3D3D
>> > > > > >>=3D3D20
>> > > > > >> > >list. Rather contact the list owner at=3D3D3D3D20
> =3D3D3D
>> > > > > >> jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > > > > >> > >=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > > > >> > >=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > > > >> > > --
>> > > > > >> > > No virus found in this incoming message.
>> > > > > >> > > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.
>> > > > > >> > > Version: 7.0.296 / Virus Database: 265.6.3 - Release
> =3D
>> > > > Date:=3D3D3D20
>> > > > > >> > 12/21/2004=3D3D3D20
>> > > > > >> > >=3D3D3D3D20 =3D3D3D3D20 =3D3D3D3D20
> 3D3D3D3D20  --=3D3D3D3D20
>> > >
>> > > > > >> > >=
>> > >  No=20
>> > > > > >> > >virus=3D20
>> > > > > found in this
>> > > > >=3D20
>> > > > > >> > >=3D3D
>> > > > > > outgoing =3D3D3D
>> > > > > >> message.
>> > > > > >> > > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.
>> > > > > >> > > Version: 7.0.296 / Virus Database: 265.6.3 - Release
> =3D
>> > > > Date:=3D3D3D20
>> > > > > >> > 12/21/2004=3D3D3D20
>> > > > > >> > >=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > > > >> > > --
>> > > > > >> > > To post a message to the list, send it to=20
>> > > > jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx  =3D
>> > > > =3D3D
>> > > > > > To=3D3D3D20
>> > > > > >> > >unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message=3D20
>> > > > > to=3D3D3D3D20 =3D3D3D20
>> > > > >=3D20
>> > > > > >> > >jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe =
>> > > in=3D3D3D20
>> > > > > >> > the=3D3D3D3D20  subject=3D3D3D20
>> > > > > >> > >line.
>> > > > > >> > > Archives located at:
> //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
>> > > > > >> > >=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > > > >> > > If you have any concerns about the list, post
> received=3D3D20
>> > > > > >> from=3D3D3D3D20  =3D3D3D
>> > > > > >> the=3D3D3D20
>> > > > > >> > >list, or the way the list is being run, do not
> post=3D3D20
>> > > > > >> them=3D3D3D3D20  to the
>> > > > > >> =3D3D3D
>> > > > > >>=3D3D20
>> > > > > >> > >list. Rather contact the list owner at=3D3D3D3D20
> =3D3D3D
>> > > > > >> jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > > > > >> > >=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > > > >> > --
>> > > > > >> > To post a message to the list, send it to=3D20
>> > > > > jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D3D3D20 To=3D20
>> > > > > >> >unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message =
>> > > to=3D3D3D20=3D20=20
>> > > > > >> >jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in=20
>> > > > > >> >the=3D3D3D20=3D20 subject line.  Archives located at:
>> > > > > >> >//www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
>> > > > > >> >=3D3D3D20
>> > > > > >> > If you have any concerns about the list, post received
> =3D
>> > > > from=3D3D3D20=3D20
>> > > > > >> >the list, or the way the list is being run, do not
> post=3D20
>> > > > > them=3D3D3D20 to=3D20
>> > > > > >> >the list. Rather contact the list owner
> at=3D3D3D20=3D20=20
>> > > > > >> >jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx =3D3D3D20 =3D3D3D20
>> > > > > >> > --
>> > > > > >> > No virus found in this incoming message.
>> > > > > >> > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.
>> > > > > >> > Version: 7.0.298 / Virus Database: 265.6.5 - Release =
>> > > Date:=3D3D20
>> > > > > >> 12/26/2004
>> > > > > >> >=3D3D3D20
>> > > > > >> >=3D3D3D20
>> > > > > >>