RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re: Bug FixesRe: jfw Digest V1 #386

  • From: "Chip Orange" <Corange@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2005 12:21:18 -0500

I'm sorry to say, that as a read of individual messages, I greatly
appreciate the quoting of messages below each response.  As there are
often days between parts of conversations, this is very helpful.

Chip

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=20
> [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Phil Halton
> Sent: Friday, December 31, 2004 12:00 PM
> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re:=20
> Bug FixesRe: jfw Digest V1 #386
>=20
> Please, when responding to a message, take a minute to delete=20
> the junk below=20
> your response to avoid cluttering the digest.  Today's digest=20
> was 760 KB(3/4=20
> megabyte), with most of that being redundant messages=20
> attached along to your=20
> responses.  A little consideration for the digest users would=20
> be in order=20
> here, don't you think?
>=20
>=20
> ----- Original Message -----=20
> To: "jfw digest users" <jfw-digest@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Friday, December 31, 2004 2:09 AM
> Subject: jfw Digest V1 #386
>=20
>=20
> > jfw Digest Thu, 30 Dec 2004 Volume: 01  Issue: 386
> >
> > In This Issue:
> > RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re: Bug Fixes
> > RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re: Bug Fixes
> > RE: sounds manager
> > RE: sounds manager
> > RE: difference between making a frame on a button & labeling
> > Quick Note about CDRWIN
> > digest clutter
> > Re: Emailing: wavepad
> > Re: Emailing: wavepad
> > Command  prompt
> > Re: Digest mode clutter
> > Re: Command  prompt
> > Re: AVG Anti Virus
> > Re: Cakewalk info
> > Re: AVG Anti Virus
> > Re: AVG Anti Virus
> > Re: Jaws for Iraq veterans!
> > Re: JFW and the security testing products from grc.com
> > Re: AVG Anti Virus
> > Re: sounds manager
> > Re: sounds manager
> > Re: AVG Anti Virus
> > Re: AVG Anti Virus
> > Re: AVG Anti Virus
> > Re: sounds manager
> > Re: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re: Bug Fixes
> > Re: Windows Up Date settings with JFW
> > RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re: Bug Fixes
> > Re: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re: Bug Fixes
> > Re: Windows Up Date settings with JFW
> > RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re: Bug Fixes
> > Re: Windows Up Date settings with JFW
> > Oe hotkey won't work in jaws 6.
> > a blind friendly dvd player
> > Re: Cakewalk info
> > Re: AVG Anti Virus
> > Re: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re: Bug Fixes
> > Re: Windows Up Date settings with JFW
> > RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re: Bug Fixes
> > Re: Oe hotkey won't work in jaws 6.
> > Re: sounds manager
> > RE: Jaws reading bold type?
> > Re: sounds manager
> > RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re: Bug Fixes
> > Re: sounds manager
> > RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re: Bug Fixes
> > Re: sounds manager
> > Re: sounds manager
> > Re: Windows Up Date settings with JFW
> > Re: JFW and the security testing products from grc.com
> > Re: Jaws for Iraq veterans!
> > Re: Oe hotkey won't work in jaws 6.
> > Re: Windows Up Date settings with JFW
> > laptop hotkey question
> > how do i use windows media player with my jaws.
> > Re: laptop hotkey question
> > RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re: Bug Fixes
> > Re: Oe hotkey won't work in jaws 6.
> > move to message field script
> > Re: Oe hotkey won't work in jaws 6.
> > I am still confused about using windows media player with ja
> > Re: Jfw and faxes
> > Re: Oe hotkey won't work in jaws 6.
> > Help with Ad Aware SE
> > Re: Help with Ad Aware SE
> > Adobe
> > Re: JFW and the security testing products from grc.com
> > Re: I am still confused about using windows media player wit
> > Re: Adobe
> > Re: AVG Anti Virus
> > Re: Help with Ad Aware SE
> > re: grc.com
> > Re: Adobe
> > Re: laptop hotkey question
> > re: grc.com
> > Re: laptop hotkey question
> > Re: Adobe
> > RE: AVG Anti Virus
> > Re: how do i use windows media player with my jaws.
> > Re: AVG Anti Virus
> > front page express
> > Re: AVG Anti Virus
> > Re: JFW and the security testing products from grc.com
> > Re: grc.com
> > Spy Sweeper
> > Re: Spy Sweeper
> > Re: front page express
> > Re: sounds manager
> >
> >=20
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > From: "Horspool, Matthew F." <drjaws@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Subject: RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re:=20
> Bug Fixes in=20
> > JAWS 6
> > Date: Thu, 30 Dec 2004 08:26:08 -0000
> >
> > OK, I thought I got it right, but when I interrogated the=20
> system this
> > line came up:
> > Processor: x86 Family 15 Model 2 Stepping 7 GenuineIntel ~2532 MhZ
> >
> > If I interpreted this line correctly I have a 2532MhZ processor!
> >
> > -------------------------
> > Mr. Matthew F. Horspool
> >
> > Send me an Electronic Mail to
> > drjaws@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >
> > Add
> > horspool@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > to your MSN contact list
> >
> > Or Visit my web site at
> > http://www.horspool.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk
> > -------------------------
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> > Behalf Of Chip Orange
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 5:13 PM
> > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re:=20
> Bug Fixes in
> > JAWS 6.0
> >
> >
> > If you got that right (and it's not a typo) and your=20
> processor speed was
> > only 256 mhz, then I could see why switching to a hardware=20
> synthesizer
> > had such an improvement for you.  That was quite a load for=20
> your system.
> >
> > Chip
> >
> > =3D20
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D20 =20
> [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> >>On Behalf Of Horspool, Matthew F.
> >> Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 12:05 PM
> >> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> Subject: RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re:=3D20  =
Bug
> >>Fixes in JAWS 6.0 =3D20
> >> Well I had 512MB RAM and about 256MHZ Processors.  Running at=3D20
> >> once I had a copy of WinAmp with the Audio stocker and=3D20
> >> SHOUTcast plugin, Microsoft Outlook, SHOUTcast DNAS (GUI),=3D20
> >> BVentrilo and the Ventrilo Server, and a copy of JFW.  This=3D20
> >> slowed down the system quite a bit.
> >>=3D20
> >> -------------------------
> >> Mr. Matthew F. Horspool
> >> =3D20
> >> Send me an Electronic Mail to
> >> drjaws@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> =3D20
> >> Add
> >> horspool@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> to your MSN contact list
> >> =3D20
> >> Or Visit my web site at
> >> http://www.horspool.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk
> >> -------------------------
> >>=3D20
> >>=3D20
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D20
> >> [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Chip Orange
> >> Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 4:38 PM
> >> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> Subject: RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re:=3D20
> >> Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0
> >>=3D20
> >>=3D20
> >> Ok,  this is the first opinion which strongly prefers one to=3D20
> >> another for other than subjective reasons, and I appreciate it.
> >>=3D20
> >> Would you say the system you were using when you made the=3D20
> >> switch was unusually slow, short of ram, or overloaded with=3D20
> >> processing tasks?
> >>=3D20
> >> Thanks.
> >>=3D20
> >> Chip
> >>=3D20
> >> =3D3D20
> >>=3D20
> >> > -----Original Message-----
> >> > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D3D20 =3D20
> >> [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]=3D20
> >> >On Behalf Of Horspool, Matthew F.
> >> > Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 11:30 AM
> >> > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > Subject: RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was -=20
> Re:=3D3D20  =3D
> > Bug=3D20
> >> >Fixes in JAWS 6.0 =3D3D20  Used DECtalk ACCESS32 for about a=3D20
> >> year and then=3D20
> >> >switched to a=3D3D20  DECtalk USB for to get better broadcast=3D20
> >> clarity.  I=3D20
> >> >certainly=3D3D20  have noticed a huge difference in=20
> responsiveness:  =3D
> > The=3D20
> >> >DEC=3D3D20  USB is faster - a lot faster!
> >> >=3D3D20
> >> > -------------------------
> >> > Mr. Matthew F. Horspool
> >> > =3D3D20
> >> > Send me an Electronic Mail to
> >> > drjaws@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > =3D3D20
> >> > Add
> >> > horspool@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > to your MSN contact list
> >> > =3D3D20
> >> > Or Visit my web site at  http://www.horspool.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk
> >> > -------------------------
> >> >=3D3D20
> >> >=3D3D20
> >> > -----Original Message-----
> >> > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D3D20
> >> > [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of John Miller
> >> > Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 4:20 PM
> >> > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > Subject: Re: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was -=20
> Re:=3D3D20  =3D
> > Bug=3D20
> >> >Fixes in JAWS 6.0 =3D3D20 =3D3D20  I don't notice it if so.
> >> > ----- Original Message -----
> >> > From: "Chip Orange" <Corange@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 10:47 AM
> >> > Subject: RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was -=20
> Re:=3D3D20  =3D
> > Bug=3D20
> >> >Fixes in =3D3D20  JAWS 6.0 =3D3D20 =3D3D20
> >> > > Yes; and they do use some processor time.  The=20
> question is that=3D20
> >
> >> > > on=3D3D20 todays systems, which usually have plenty of =3D
> > processor=3D3D20
> >> > speed and RAM,=3D3D20
> >> > > does that really make any difference?
> >> > >
> >> > > Now, I know that it does from reports on AT&T Natural
> >> > > Voices=3D3D20=3D20 specifically, but I was wondering about=20
> Eloquence.
> >> > >
> >> > > Thanks.
> >> > >
> >> > > Chip
> >> > >
> >> > > =3D3D3D20
> >> > >
> >> > >> -----Original Message-----
> >> > >> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D3D3D20 =3D3D20
> >> > [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]=3D3D20
> >> > >>On Behalf Of Flor Lynch
> >> > >> Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2004 9:00 PM
> >> > >> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > >> Subject: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re:=3D3D20
> >> > Bug=3D3D3D20  Fixes
> >> >=3D3D20
> >> > >>in JAWS 6.0 =3D3D3D20
> >> > >> Software synths take up more RAM than hardware ones do.
> >> > >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> > >> From: "Chip Orange" <Corange@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > >> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > >> Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2004 2:22 PM
> >> > >> Subject: RE: Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0
> >> > >>=3D3D3D20
> >> > >>=3D3D3D20
> >> > >> Well, no argument with your first point, it is more=3D3D20
> >> > difficult to have =3D3D20
> >> > >>all of the sound coming out of one source; but, when you=3D3D20
> >> > need to use =3D3D20
> >> > >>headphones so as not to disturb someone else, it's also =3D
> > more=3D3D3D20=3D20
> >> > >>=3D3D20 convenient. =3D3D3D20  As for your second, that =
just=3D20
> >> seems to come=3D20
> >> > >>down to personal=3D3D3D20
> >> =3D3D20
> >> > >>preference  as it doesn't bother me a bit.
> >> > >>=3D3D3D20
> >> > >> There is one which you didn't mention, but which I've=3D3D20
> >> > always wondered =3D3D20
> >> > >>about, and that's how much of a load does Eloquence =
place=3D3D20
> >> > on=3D3D3D20  your=3D3D20
> >> > >>system  by having the software synth as compared to=20
> sending=3D3D20
> >> > the text=3D3D20
> >> > >>to be  spoken out of the serial port?  Anyone have any =
facts=3D20
> >> > >>along=3D3D20 this
> >> > line?
> >> > >>=3D3D3D20
> >> > >> Thanks.
> >> > >>=3D3D3D20
> >> > >> Chip
> >> > >>=3D3D3D20
> >> > >> =3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >>=3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > -----Original Message-----
> >> > >> > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D3D3D3D20=3D3D20
> >> > >> >[mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Kerri
> >> > >> > Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2004 2:04 AM
> >> > >> > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > >> > Subject: Re: Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0 =3D3D3D3D20  Hello=20
>  Chip. I=3D20
> >
> >> > >> >despise software synthesizers mainly=3D3D20
> >> > because=3D3D3D3D20 if=3D3D20
> >> > >> >you are required to listen to other media, I find it=3D20
> >> to=3D3D3D3D20=3D3D20=3D20
> >> > >> >difficult to with a software synthesizer coming through=3D20
> >> the=3D3D3D3D20
> >>=3D20
> >> > >> >=3D3D
> >>=3D20
> >> > >> >same speakers. I also dislike elloquence's voice,=20
> *all of them*
> >> > >> > ----- Original Message -----
> >> > >> > From: "Chip Orange" <Corange@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > >> > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > >> > Sent: Monday, December 27, 2004 12:02 PM
> >> > >> > Subject: RE: Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0 =3D3D3D3D20=20
> =3D3D3D3D20  I'm=3D20
> >> > >> >interested in hearing why, as I use a DT express at=3D3D20
> >> > work,=3D3D3D3D20
> >> >=3D3D20
> >> > >> >and eloquence at home, and really haven't felt there's=3D20
> >> much=3D3D3D3D20
> >>=3D20
> >> > >> >=3D3D
> >>=3D20
> >> > >> >difference.  Perhaps there's just something I'm=3D20
> >> missing? =3D3D3D3D20 =3D20
> >> > >> >Thanks.
> >> > >> >=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > Chip
> >> > >> >=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > =3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> >=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > > -----Original Message-----
> >> > >> > > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D3D3D3D3D20=3D3D20
> >> > >> > >[mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Kerri
> >> > >> > > Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2004 12:17 AM
> >> > >> > > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > >> > > Subject: Re: Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0 =3D3D3D3D3D20 =20
> Chris, I=3D3D20
> >> > vehemently=3D3D20
> >> > >> > >despise software synthesizers hence=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > my=3D3D3D3D3D20  dectalk=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > >use and this is the only version that has been =3D3D
> >> rather=3D3D3D3D3D20=3D3D3D20
> >> > >>  sluggish.
> >> > >> > > ----- Original Message -----
> >> > >> > > From: "Chris Skarstad" <toonhead5@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > >> > > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > >> > > Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2004 4:15 PM
> >> > >> > > Subject: Re: Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0 =3D3D3D3D3D20=20
> =3D3D3D3D3D20 =3D
> > =3D3D20
> >> > man I guess=3D3D20
> >> > >> > >I'm very lucky then. This version actually runs =3D3D3D
> >> > > a=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> =3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > >little faster on my system than 5.10 did. Then =
again=3D3D3D20
> >> > >> I'm=3D3D3D3D3D20  using
> >> > >> =3D3D3D3D
> >> > >> a=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > >hardware synthesizer which is probably the=3D20
> >> reason.=3D3D3D3D3D20  =3D3D3D
> >> > > Never=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > did like=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > >software speech and never will based on =
what=3D3D3D3D3D20=3D20
> >>  I've=3D3D3D20
> >> > >> seen.  By the
> >> > >> =3D3D3D3D
> >> > >>=3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > >way, the murge feature is there. go to=3D3D3D3D3D20  =
your=3D20
> >> jaws=3D3D3D20
> >> > >> window with =3D3D3D3D
> >> > >> alt=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > >plus j, press alt u for utilities,=3D3D3D3D3D20  and it's =
=3D
> > in=3D3D3D20
> >> > >> there. or simply
> >> > >> =3D3D3D3D
> >> > >>=3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > >bring up the context menu if=3D3D3D3D3D20  you're =
running=3D20
> >> jaws in =3D3D
> >> =3D3D3D
> >> > > the=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > system tray=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > >and go to utilities=3D3D3D3D3D20  and the murge =
utility=3D20
> >> is there.=3D3D20
> >>=3D20
> >> > >> > >=3D3D3D3D3D20  At 04:29 PM 12/21/2004, you wrote:
> >> > >> > > >Hay, you mean, they haven't fixed any right? I'm=3D3D20
> >> > sorry, I=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > > just couldn't=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > > >resist. In truth, this has been the worst version =3D
> > I've=3D3D3D20
> >> > >> had the=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> =3D3D3D3D
> >> > >>=3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > > >misfortune to deal with in a long while. It runs=3D3D3D20
> >> > >> terribley slow,=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > > >I'm=3D3D3D3D3D20 getting false attachments, no merge=3D20
> >> feature=3D3D3D20
> >> > >> anywhere. I=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > > >love=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > > spending=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > > >money on this "improved" product. Sorry, I'm=20
> being a grinch.
> >> > >> > > >----- Original Message -----
> >> > >> > > >From: "RJ" <rjf1@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > >> > > >To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > >> > > >Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2004 2:16 PM
> >> > >> > > >Subject: Re: Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0
> >> > >> > > >
> >> > >> > > >
> >> > >> > > >You are looking right, there just isn't any bugs.=3D3D20
> >> > Smiling here.
> >> > >> > > >----- Original Message -----
> >> > >> > > >From: "Margaret Thomas" <iluvtoread@xxxxxxx>
> >> > >> > > >To: "jfw" <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > >> > > >Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2004 4:15 PM
> >> > >> > > >Subject: Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0
> >> > >> > > >
> >> > >> > > >
> >> > >> > > > > Good Afternoon,
> >> > >> > > > >
> >> > >> > > > >     I had a migraine when JAWS 6.0 was released =3D
> > and=3D3D3D20
> >> > >> am trying=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > > > > to=3D3D3D3D3D20 catch up with list mail before=3D3D20
> >> > installing the new =3D3D3D
> >> > > =3D3D3D3D
> >> > >> release.
> >> > >> > > > >
> >> > >> > > > >     I've looked over the What's New section for
> >> > >> > > > > 6.0=3D3D20=3D20 and=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > > could swear=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > > > > that there used to be a section on bug fixes,=20
> but I'm =3D
> > =3D3D3D
> >> > > not=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > > finding it=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > > > > for this version.  Am I having another senior=20
> moment, =3D
> > =3D3D3D
> >> > > or=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > > did FS not=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > > > > do it this time, or am I looking in the wrong=3D3D20
> >> > place on=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > > the FS site? =3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > > > > I've been looking at:
> >> > >> > > > >
> >> > >> > > > >
> >> > >> > >=3D20
> >> >http://www.freedomscientific.com/fs_products/software_jaws60f
> >> > >> > > ea.asp#JAW
> >> > >> > > >S_Features
> >> > >> > > > >
> >> > >> > > > >     Thanks,
> >> > >> > > > > Margaret
> >> > >> > > > > iluvtoread@xxxxxxx
> >> > >> > > > >
> >> > >> > > > > --
> >> > >> > > > > To post a message to the list, send it to=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To=3D3D3D3D3D20=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > > > > unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to
> >> > >> > > >jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe
> >> > >> > > >in=3D3D20=3D20 the=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > > subject line.
> >> > >> > > > > Archives located at:=3D20
> >> //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
> >> > >> > > > >
> >> > >> > > > > If you have any concerns about the list, post =3D3D
> >> received=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > from the=3D3D3D3D3D20=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > > > > list, or
> >> > >> > > >the way the list is being run, do not post them to
> >> > >> > > >the=3D3D20=3D20 list.=3D3D3D3D20 Rather=3D3D3D3D3D20 =
contact the
> >> > >> > > >list owner =3D
> > at=3D3D20=3D20
> >> > >> > > >jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > >> > > > >
> >> > >> > > >
> >> > >> > > >--
> >> > >> > > >To post a message to the list, send it to=3D3D3D20
> >> > >> jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> =3D3D3D3D
> >> > >>=3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > > >unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a=20
> message=3D3D20=3D20
> >> > >> > > >to=3D3D3D3D3D20=3D3D3D3D20 jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx =
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> > ------------------------------
> >
> > From: "Horspool, Matthew F." <drjaws@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Subject: RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re:=20
> Bug Fixes  in=20
> > JAWS6
> > Date: Thu, 30 Dec 2004 08:40:41 -0000
> >
> > Actually people *do* sell these synths on EBay!
> >
> > -------------------------
> > Mr. Matthew F. Horspool
> >
> > Send me an Electronic Mail to
> > drjaws@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >
> > Add
> > horspool@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > to your MSN contact list
> >
> > Or Visit my web site at
> > http://www.horspool.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk
> > -------------------------
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> > Behalf Of Pranav Lal
> > Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 12:04 AM
> > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re:=20
> Bug Fixes in
> > JAWS6.0
> >
> >
> > any one selling these synths on ebay? <grin
> >
> > Pranav
> > At 03:23 AM 12/30/2004, Cy wrote:
> > John,
> > Hmm, you and I must be in the same boat trying to survive=20
> the flood. Cy,
> > the Ancient Okie...
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> > Behalf Of John Miller
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 12:55 PM
> > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: Re: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re:=20
> Bug Fixes in
> > JAWS 6.0
> >
> >
> > I wish I had your money, I could burn mine, if there was=20
> any to burn,
> > I'd love a dectalk USB, or express but that's not going to happen in
> > this life time.
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Horspool, Matthew F." <drjaws@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 11:30 AM
> > Subject: RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re:=20
> Bug Fixes in
> >
> > JAWS 6.0
> >
> >
> > > Used DECtalk ACCESS32 for about a year and then switched=20
> to a DECtalk
> >> USB for to get better broadcast clarity.  I certainly have=20
> noticed a
> >> huge difference in responsiveness:  The DEC USB is faster=20
> - a lot  >
> > faster!  >  > -------------------------  > Mr. Matthew F.=20
> Horspool  >  >
> > Send me an Electronic Mail to  > drjaws@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx  >=20
>  > Add  >
> > horspool@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx  > to your MSN contact list  >  >=20
> Or Visit my
> > web site at http://www.horspool.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk
> > > -------------------------
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=20
> [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> >> Behalf Of John Miller  > Sent: Wednesday, December 29,=20
> 2004 4:20 PM  >
> > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx  > Subject: Re: software vs. hardware=20
> synthesizers
> > - was - Re: Bug Fixes in  > JAWS 6.0  >  >  > I don't=20
> notice it if so.
> >> ----- Original Message -----  > From: "Chip Orange"
> > <Corange@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>  > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>  >=20
> Sent: Wednesday,
> > December 29, 2004 10:47 AM  > Subject: RE: software vs. hardware
> > synthesizers - was - Re: Bug Fixes in  >  > JAWS 6.0  >  > =20
> >> Yes; and
> > they do use some processor time.  The question is that on  >> todays
> > systems, which usually have plenty of processor speed and=20
> RAM,  >> does
> > that really make any difference?  >>  >> Now, I know that=20
> it does from
> > reports on AT&T Natural Voices  >> specifically, but I was wondering
> > about Eloquence.  >>  >> Thanks.  >>  >> Chip  >>  >> =3D20  >>  >>>
> > -----Original Message-----  >>> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D20
> > [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]  >>>On Behalf Of Flor=20
> Lynch  >>> Sent:
> > Tuesday, December 28, 2004 9:00 PM  >>> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx  >>>
> > Subject: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re:=20
> Bug=3D20 Fixes  >
> >>>>in JAWS 6.0 =3D20  >>> Software synths take up more RAM=20
> than hardware
> > ones do.  >>> ----- Original Message -----  >>> From: "Chip Orange"
> > <Corange@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>  >>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>  >>> Sent:
> > Tuesday, December 28, 2004 2:22 PM  >>> Subject: RE: Bug=20
> Fixes in JAWS
> > 6.0  >>>=3D20  >>>=3D20  >>> Well, no argument with your first=20
> point, it is
> > more difficult to have  >>> all of the sound coming out of=20
> one source;
> > but, when you need to use  >>> headphones so as not to=20
> disturb someone
> > else, it's also more=3D20  >>> convenient.  >>>=3D20  >>> As for =
your
> > second, that just seems to come down to personal=3D20  >>>=20
> preference  >>>
> > as it doesn't bother me a bit.  >>>=3D20  >>> There is one which you
> > didn't mention, but which I've always wondered  >>> about,=20
> and that's
> > how much of a load does Eloquence place on=3D20  >>> your=20
> system  >>> by
> > having the software synth as compared to sending the text to be  >>>
> > spoken out of the serial port?  Anyone have any facts along this  >
> > line?  >>>=3D20  >>> Thanks.  >>>=3D20  >>> Chip  >>>=3D20  >>>=20
> =3D3D20  >>>=3D20
> >>>> > -----Original Message-----  >>> > From:
> > jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D3D20  >>>=20
> >[mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> > Behalf Of Kerri  >>> > Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2004=20
> 2:04 AM  >>> >
> > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx  >>> > Subject: Re: Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0  >>>
> >>=3D3D20  >>> > Hello  Chip. I despise software synthesizers mainly
> > because=3D3D20  >>> >if you are required to listen to other=20
> media, I find
> > it to=3D3D20  >>> >difficult to with a software synthesizer=20
> coming through
> > the=3D3D20  >>> >same speakers. I also dislike elloquence's=20
> voice, *all of
> > them*  >>> > ----- Original Message -----  >>> > From: "Chip Orange"
> > <Corange@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>  >>> > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> =20
> >>> > Sent:
> > Monday, December 27, 2004 12:02 PM  >>> > Subject: RE: Bug=20
> Fixes in JAWS
> > 6.0  >>> >=3D3D20  >>> >=3D3D20  >>> > I'm interested in=20
> hearing why, as I
> > use a DT express at work,=3D3D20  >  >>> >and eloquence at home, and
> > really haven't felt there's much=3D3D20  >>> >difference. =20
> Perhaps there's
> > just something I'm missing?  >>> >=3D3D20  >>> > Thanks.  >>>=20
> >=3D3D20  >>>
> >> Chip  >>> >=3D3D20  >>> > =3D3D3D20  >>> >=3D3D20  >>> > > =
-----Original
> > Message-----  >>> > > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D3D3D20  >>> >
> >>[mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Kerri  >>> > > Sent:
> > Wednesday, December 22, 2004 12:17 AM  >>> > > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>> > > Subject: Re: Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0  >>> > >=3D3D3D20  >>> > >
> > Chris, I vehemently despise software synthesizers hence=3D3D20  >>> =
>
> > my=3D3D3D20  dectalk=3D3D20  >>> > >use and this is the only=20
> version that
> > has been rather=3D3D3D20=3D20  >>>  sluggish.  >>> > > ----- =
Original
> > Message -----  >>> > > From: "Chris Skarstad"=20
> <toonhead5@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>>> > > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>  >>> > > Sent: Tuesday, December 21,
> > 2004 4:15 PM  >>> > > Subject: Re: Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0 =20
> >>> > >=3D3D3D20
> >>>> > >=3D3D3D20  >>> > > man I guess I'm very lucky then. This =
version
> > actually runs =3D  >> a=3D3D3D20  >>> =3D3D20  >>> > >little faster =
on my
> > system than 5.10 did. Then again=3D20  >>> I'm=3D3D3D20  using =20
> >>> =3D3D  >>>
> > a=3D3D20  >>> > >hardware synthesizer which is probably the=20
> reason.=3D3D3D20
> > =3D  >> Never=3D3D20  >>> > did like=3D3D20  >>> > >software=20
> speech and never
> > will based on what=3D3D3D20  I've=3D20  >>> seen.  By the  >>>=20
> =3D3D  >>>=3D20
> >>>> > >way, the murge feature is there. go to=3D3D3D20  your=20
> jaws=3D20  >>>
> > window with =3D3D  >>> alt=3D3D20  >>> > >plus j, press alt u for
> > utilities,=3D3D3D20  and it's in=3D20  >>> there. or simply =20
> >>> =3D3D  >>>=3D20
> >>>> > >bring up the context menu if=3D3D3D20  you're running=20
> jaws in =3D  >>
> > the=3D3D20  >>> > system tray=3D3D20  >>> > >and go to=20
> utilities=3D3D3D20  and
> > the murge utility is there.  >>> > >=3D3D3D20  At 04:29 PM=20
> 12/21/2004, you
> > wrote:  >>> > > >Hay, you mean, they haven't fixed any=20
> right? I'm sorry,
> > I=3D3D3D20  >>> > > just couldn't=3D3D3D20  >>> > > >resist. In=20
> truth, this
> > has been the worst version I've=3D20  >>> had the=3D3D3D20  >>>=20
> =3D3D  >>>=3D20
> >>>> > > >misfortune to deal with in a long while. It runs=3D20  >>>
> > terribley slow,=3D3D20  >>> > > >I'm=3D3D3D20 getting false=20
> attachments, no
> > merge feature=3D20  >>> anywhere. I=3D3D20  >>> > >=20
> >love=3D3D3D20  >>> > >
> > spending=3D3D3D20  >>> > > >money on this "improved" product.=20
> Sorry, I'm
> > being a grinch.  >>> > > >----- Original Message -----  >>>=20
> > > >From:
> > "RJ" <rjf1@xxxxxxxxxxxx>  >>> > > >To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>  >>> > >
> >>Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2004 2:16 PM  >>> > > >Subject: Re: Bug
> > Fixes in JAWS 6.0  >>> > > >  >>> > > >  >>> > > >You are=20
> looking right,
> > there just isn't any bugs. Smiling here.  >>> > > >----- Original
> > Message -----  >>> > > >From: "Margaret Thomas" <iluvtoread@xxxxxxx>
> >>>> > > >To: "jfw" <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>  >>> > > >Sent:=20
> Tuesday, December
> > 21, 2004 4:15 PM  >>> > > >Subject: Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0  >>> > > >
> >>>> > > >  >>> > > > > Good Afternoon,  >>> > > > >
> > >>> > > > >     I had a migraine when JAWS 6.0 was released and=3D20
> > >>> am trying=3D3D20
> > >>> > > > > to=3D3D3D20 catch up with list mail before=20
> installing the new
> > =3D  >> =3D3D  >>> release.  >>> > > > >
> > >>> > > > >     I've looked over the What's New section for 6.0
> > >>> > > > > and=3D3D3D20
> > >>> > > could swear=3D3D3D20
> > >>> > > > > that there used to be a section on bug fixes,=20
> but I'm =3D  >>
> > not=3D3D3D20  >>> > > finding it=3D3D3D20  >>> > > > > for this=20
> version.  Am
> > I having another senior moment, =3D  >> or=3D3D3D20  >>> > > did FS
> > not=3D3D3D20  >>> > > > > do it this time, or am I looking in=20
> the wrong
> > place on=3D3D3D20  >>> > > the FS site? =3D3D3D20  >>> > > > > I've =
been
> > looking at:  >>> > > > >  >>> > > > >  >>> > >
> >>http://www.freedomscientific.com/fs_products/software_jaws60f
> > >>> > > ea.asp#JAW
> > >>> > > >S_Features
> > >>> > > > >
> > >>> > > > >     Thanks,
> > >>> > > > > Margaret
> > >>> > > > > iluvtoread@xxxxxxx
> > >>> > > > >
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> >
> > From: "Horspool, Matthew F." <drjaws@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Subject: RE: sounds manager
> > Date: Thu, 30 Dec 2004 09:01:55 -0000
> >
> > From config manager, press CTRL+SHFT+D.  Now press ALT+S=20
> and DownArrow
> > to "Speech and Sounds Manager" and press ENTER.  Now you're there.
> > Select "classic" from the list of schemes that should have=20
> focus.  Now
> > press Tab, then ENTER.  Press CTRL+TAB and select your control type
> > (slider, button).  Press tab and select an action (Ignore,=20
> play a sound,
> > change the voice...).  If you've selected "voice" or=20
> "sound", press tab,
> > then enter.  There should be a list, select what you want. =20
> If you are
> > choosing a sound, press the SPACEBAR over the sound to play=20
> it.  When
> > you're done, press ENTER.  TAB to "OK" and press it.  TAB=20
> to "SAVE" and
> > press it.  You're done!
> >
> > -------------------------
> > Mr. Matthew F. Horspool
> >
> > Send me an Electronic Mail to
> > drjaws@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >
> > Add
> > horspool@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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> >
> > Or Visit my web site at
> > http://www.horspool.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk
> > -------------------------
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> > Behalf Of chevelle
> > Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 1:19 AM
> > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: Re: sounds manager
> >
> >
> > That doesn't explain how you choose the default.
> > ----- Original Message -----=20
> > From: "david poehlman" <david.poehlman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 7:50 PM
> > Subject: Re: sounds manager
> >
> >
> >> default is classic.
> >>
> >> Johnnie Apple Seed
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "chevelle" <chevelle33@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 7:36 PM
> >> Subject: Re: sounds manager
> >>
> >>
> >> How do you choose the default, and how do you get to the speech and
> >> sounds manager?
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "david poehlman" <david.poehlman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 6:26 PM
> >> Subject: Re: sounds manager
> >>
> >>
> >>> speech and sounds manager is simple but there are a lot=20
> of choices to
> >>> make
> >>> or to choose from among.  You must look through it and figure out
> > what yu
> >>> want to do.  It is not hard to do any of it and you must=20
> also choose
> > the
> >>> app
> >>> you intend to work with.  Choose default if you wish by=20
> opening the
> >>> default
> >>> configuration manager and choosing speech and sounds manager and
> > opening
> >>> it
> >>> up, click edit scheme button and press space, the first tab is the
> >>> general
> >>> tab and you can leave the description the way it is,=20
> ctrl+tab to the
> >>> other
> >>> pages and look through the options and things you can ghance and
> > decide
> >>> what
> >>> to change.  If you want to change the way a slider sounds for
> > instance,
> >>> go
> >>> to the bottom of the list on the first page and then tab=20
> to the group
> > of
> >>> four radio buttons and select the one you want the bahavior for.
> > Play
> >>> sound
> >>> is at the bottom, and for that, you must choose a wav=20
> file with the
> > next
> >>> button in tab order.  Once yu are done with the settings, click ok
> > and ok
> >>> again if need be, close and save.
> >>>
> >>> Johnnie Apple Seed
> >>>
> >>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>> From: <ptusing@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>> Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 5:40 PM
> >>> Subject: sounds manager
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Hi,
> >>> Could some one for the sake of argument go through like =20
> the  steps
> >>> in order for setting the sounds  manager to put a sound=20
> on to let's
> >>> say something useful.
> >>> Thanks.
> >>> I was looking for this info as in sounds manager  in the=20
> JAWS  6 help
> >>> topics.
> >>>
> >>>
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> > --
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> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > From: "Horspool, Matthew F." <drjaws@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Subject: RE: sounds manager
> > Date: Thu, 30 Dec 2004 09:02:43 -0000
> >
> > Same steps
> >
> > -------------------------
> > Mr. Matthew F. Horspool
> >
> > Send me an Electronic Mail to
> > drjaws@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >
> > Add
> > horspool@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > to your MSN contact list
> >
> > Or Visit my web site at
> > http://www.horspool.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk
> > -------------------------
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> > Behalf Of Djasister2@xxxxxxx
> > Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 3:12 AM
> > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: Re: sounds manager
> >
> >
> > I would like this for 5.1 please.
> >
> > --
> > To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to
> > jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the=20
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> >
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> the list, or
> > the way the list is being run, do not post them to the list. Rather
> > contact the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > From: "Horspool, Matthew F." <drjaws@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Subject: RE: difference between making a frame on a button=20
> & labeling a=20
> > prompt
> > Date: Thu, 30 Dec 2004 09:03:23 -0000
> >
> > There wouldn't be a point.
> >
> > -------------------------
> > Mr. Matthew F. Horspool
> >
> > Send me an Electronic Mail to
> > drjaws@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >
> > Add
> > horspool@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > to your MSN contact list
> >
> > Or Visit my web site at
> > http://www.horspool.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk
> > -------------------------
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> > Behalf Of ptusing@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 10:38 PM
> > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: difference between making a frame on a button & labeling a
> > prompt
> >
> >
> > Hi,
> > With all this discussion of using
> > control shift tab to label parts of a page,
> > then what is the point of creating a  framet o label some button or
> > control? I  was reading "creating a frame" in JAWS help and=20
> there was
> > discussion of labeling a button there.
> >
> > --
> > To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to
> > jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the=20
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> > contact the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Date: Thu, 30 Dec 2004 03:07:32 -0600 (CST)
> > From: Bruce Toews <water_drinker@xxxxxxxx>
> > Subject: Quick Note about CDRWIN
> >
> > Just a quick note about CDRWIN, because this subject was=20
> discussed here
> > earlier.
> >
> > The homepage at www.goldenhawk.com is now up and running=20
> again. Enjoy.
> >
> > Bruce
> >
> > --=20
> > Bruce Toews
> > E-mail and MSN/Windows Messenger: water_drinker@xxxxxxxx
> > Web Site (including info on my weekly commentaries):=20
> http://www.ogts.net
> > For the best oldies anywhere visit=20
> http://www.treasureislandoldies.com
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > From: "jean parkar" <disabilityradio@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Subject: digest clutter
> > Date: Thu, 30 Dec 2004 14:39:21 +0530
> >
> > I have also complained about this privately to the list=20
> owner but to no=20
> > avail.  It's so bad that I have considered leaving the list=20
> on more than=20
> > one occasion. But every time I think about dropping the=20
> list there is=20
> > something on it that I really benefit from.  I have had=20
> some success at=20
> > navigating by using the find command and looking for the particular=20
> > subject lines I might be interested in.  But this is by no means=20
> > satisfactory.
> > Something must be done and soon!
> >
> > Jean Parker,
> > Pune, India
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > From: "Steve" <PapaSchnelle@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Subject: Re: Emailing: wavepad
> > Date: Thu, 30 Dec 2004 04:21:59 -0600
> >
> > Thanks for the heads up on that one. I'm just kind of =20
> getting an idea of
> > what to get to transfer things from cassette and reel to=20
> reel to CD. I've
> > got a lot of original songs on reel to reel as well as college and=20
> > nostalgic
> > info on cassette I would like to immortalize. Any suggestions?
> >
> > Steve
> > ----- Original Message -----=20
> > From: "Ray Foret Jr." <rforetjr@xxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 8:28 PM
> > Subject: Re: Emailing: wavepad
> >
> >
> >> Sound recorder is crap.  It records directly to RAM rather=20
> than your hard
> >> drive; for one thing.  You can't do anything with it really...not
> > seriously
> >> anyhow.
> >>
> >> Sincerely Yours,
> >>
> >> The Constantly BAREFOOTED
> >> Ray
> >>
> >> Home Phone And Fax:  (985)853-0139
> >> E-mail and Windows Messenger:
> >> rforetjr@xxxxxxxxx
> >>
> >> God Bless President George W Bush
> >> God Bless America
> >> And God Bless Our Troops
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----=20
> >> From: "Steve" <PapaSchnelle@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 8:22 PM
> >> Subject: Re: Emailing: wavepad
> >>
> >>
> >> I guess what I'm thinking of is a multi track recorder and=20
> I think Cake
> > Walk
> >> is the only one of those; Pretty expensive though I've=20
> found out. Another
> >> friend of mine suggested Sound recorder or something like=20
> that. Has=20
> >> anyone
> >> heard of that program?
> >> ----- Original Message -----=20
> >> From: "dennis" <dennis.cornelison@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 7:53 AM
> >> Subject: Re: Emailing: wavepad
> >>
> >>
> >> > you can't burn cd's with goldwave but you can record anything.
> >> > ----- Original Message -----=20
> >> > From: "Steve" <PapaSchnelle@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2004 7:15 PM
> >> > Subject: Re: Emailing: wavepad
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > > Thanks for responding. Another question though, would=20
> Goldwave record
> >> > > stuff
> >> > > like instruments and vocals and burn them on C D?
> >> > > Steve
> >> > >
> >> > > ----- Original Message -----=20
> >> > > From: "dennis" <dennis.cornelison@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > > Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2004 7:59 AM
> >> > > Subject: Re: Emailing: wavepad
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >> i would say goldwave.
> >> > >> ----- Original Message -----=20
> >> > >> From: "Steve" <PapaSchnelle@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > >> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > >> Sent: Monday, December 27, 2004 5:29 PM
> >> > >> Subject: Re: Emailing: wavepad
> >> > >>
> >> > >>
> >> > >> > Jack, can you actually transfer music and stuff=20
> from cassette to C
> > D
> >> > > with
> >> > >> > this program? If not, which one would anyone recommend?
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > Steve
> >> > >> > ----- Original Message -----=20
> >> > >> > From: "Jack Lowe" <akronjack1982@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > >> > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > >> > Sent: Sunday, December 26, 2004 9:06 AM
> >> > >> > Subject: Emailing: wavepad
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> >> Content-Type: text/plain;
> >> > >> >> charset=3D"iso-8859-1"
> >> > >> >> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
> >> > >> >> Hello Everyone,
> >> > >> >>
> >> > >> >> If you happen to be a huge music fan as I am, and=20
> you love to do
> >> your
> >> > >> >> =3D
> >> > >> >> own editing.  Then you will love this program. =20
> It's completely
> > free
> >> > > for
> >> > >> >> =3D
> >> > >> >> as long as you use it.  95% of this programs=20
> features are free.
> > The
> >> =3D
> >> > >> >> ones that you have to pay for, I've never needed=20
> or wanted.  And,
> >> it's
> >> > > =3D
> >> > >> >> completely Jaws friendly.  Here's a little info about this=20
> >> > >> >> program
> > =3D
> >> > >> >> called Wave Pad.   Jack
> >> > >> >>
> >> > >> >> WavePad is a sound editor program for Windows.=20
> This software lets
> >> you
> >> > >> >> =3D
> >> > >> >> make and edit voice and other audio recordings.=20
> You can cut, copy
> >> and
> >> > >> >> =3D
> >> > >> >> paste parts
> >> > >> >> of recording and, if required, add effects like echo,
> > amplification
> >> > >> >> and
> >> > > =3D
> >> > >> >> noise reduction.
> >> > >> >>
> >> > >> >> WavePad is designed to be very easy and intuitive=20
> to use. Within
> >> > > minutes
> >> > >> >> =3D
> >> > >> >> you will be able to open or record a file and edit=20
> it. But if you
> >> take
> >> > > =3D
> >> > >> >> time to
> >> > >> >> explore the other features you will find many=20
> powerful tools
> >> designed
> >> > >> >> =3D
> >> > >> >> with the professional sound engineer in mind.
> >> > >> >>
> >> > >> >> A full list of WavePad's features follow but a=20
> quick way to try=20
> >> > >> >> it
> >> out
> >> > > =3D
> >> > >> >> is to download and install now. You don't need to=20
> purchase and it
> >> only
> >> > > =3D
> >> > >> >> takes a couple
> >> > >> >> of minutes to complete the process (
> >> > >> >>
> >> > >> >> WavePad is free.
> >> > >> >>
> >> > >> >> We make WavePad free in the hope you will like it=20
> so much you=20
> >> > >> >> will
> >> be
> >> > >> >> =3D
> >> > >> >> tempted to upgrade to WavePad Masters Edition. The Masters=20
> >> > >> >> Edition
> >> has
> >> > > =3D
> >> > >> >> additional
> >> > >> >> effects and features designed with the professional sound=20
> >> > >> >> engineer
> >> in
> >> > >> >> =3D
> >> > >> >> mind.
> >> > >> >> *Features*
> >> > >> >>
> >> > >> >> List of 9 items
> >> > >> >> . Supports a number of file formats including wav (multiple
> > codecs),
> >> =3D
> >> > >> >> mp3, vox, gsm, real audio, au, aif and more.
> >> > >> >> . Edit functions include Cut, Copy, Paste, Delete, Insert,
> > Silence,
> >> =3D
> >> > >> >> AutoTrim and others.
> >> > >> >> . Effects include, Amplify, Normalize, Equaliser, Envelope,
> > Reverb,
> >> =3D
> >> > >> >> Echo, Reverse, Noise Reduction, Sample Rate=20
> Conversion and more.
> >> > >> >> . Supports sample rates from 6000 to 96000Hz,=20
> stereo or mono, 8,
> > 16
> >> or
> >> > > =3D
> >> > >> >> 32 bits.
> >> > >> >> . Ability to work with multiple files at the same time in=20
> >> > >> >> seperate
> > =3D
> >> > >> >> screens.
> >> > >> >> . Includes a CD ripper to load audio directly and=20
> quickly from=20
> >> > >> >> CD.
> >> > >> >> . CD Burner function allows you to burn your sound=20
> files to CD.
> >> > >> >> . Player includes Scrub/Cue control for precise editing.
> >> > >> >> . Recorder supports autotrim and voice activated recording.
> >> > >> >> list end
> >> > >> >> The message is ready to be sent with the following=20
> file or link =3D
> >> > >> >> attachments:
> >> > >> >> Shortcut to: http://www.nch.com.au/wavepad/
> >> > >> >>
> >> > >> >> Note: To protect against computer viruses, e-mail=20
> programs may
> >> prevent
> >> > > =3D
> >> > >> >> sending or receiving certain types of file=20
> attachments.  Check
> > your
> >> =3D
> >> > >> >> e-mail security settings to determine how attachments are=20
> >> > >> >> handled.
> >> > >> >>
> >> > >> >>
> >> > >> >>
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> >>
> >> --=20
> >> No virus found in this incoming message.
> >> Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.
> >> Version: 7.0.298 / Virus Database: 265.6.6 - Release Date:=20
> 12/28/2004
> >>
> >>
> >>
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> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > From: "Ray Foret Jr." <rforetjr@xxxxxxxxx>
> > Subject: Re: Emailing: wavepad
> > Date: Thu, 30 Dec 2004 05:07:03 -0600
> >
> > Well, if you don't mind being just very basic, Gold Wave=20
> would be a nice
> > choice for the low end of the spectrum.  It has a fairly=20
> decent click and
> > pop suppressor and noise reduction feature which might work=20
> well for you;
> > however, if you don't mind coughing up a little more (say=20
> about $290.00 or
> > so) Sound Forge is a very nice choice which would serve you=20
> well.  I would
> > recommend adobe Audition version 1.5; but, I honestly can't do that=20
> > because
> > unlike version 1.0, there appear to be some major focus=20
> change events=20
> > which
> > JAWS is not able to see and every time you go in to the multitrack
> > environment, JAWS gets forced out of RAM.  I've talked to=20
> FS tech support
> > about this issue and got nowhere.  Also, I got nowhere with=20
> the people=20
> > over
> > at Adobe either.  The reason I got nowhere; or so I=20
> suspect; is due to the
> > high probability that there is not a single accessibility=20
> person on the
> > Adobe Audition development team.  As a consequence, that=20
> development team
> > neither knows or could care less about what ever=20
> accessibility issues we=20
> > may
> > have with the program.  It's a shame too because that=20
> program has a lot of
> > potential which, with out accessibility, goes unrealized.
> >
> >    Some here have mentioned Cake Walk.  I believe the=20
> present version is
> > called Sonar; could be mistaken about that.
> >
> >
> >
> >    From what I hear, it's supposed to be a multitrack=20
> environment too; not
> > sure about that.
> >
> > Sincerely Yours,
> >
> > The Constantly BAREFOOTED
> > Ray
> >
> > Home Phone And Fax:  (985)853-0139
> > E-mail and Windows Messenger:
> > rforetjr@xxxxxxxxx
> >
> > God Bless President George W Bush
> > God Bless America
> > And God Bless Our Troops
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----=20
> > From: "Steve" <PapaSchnelle@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 4:21 AM
> > Subject: Re: Emailing: wavepad
> >
> >
> > Thanks for the heads up on that one. I'm just kind of =20
> getting an idea of
> > what to get to transfer things from cassette and reel to=20
> reel to CD. I've
> > got a lot of original songs on reel to reel as well as college and=20
> > nostalgic
> > info on cassette I would like to immortalize. Any suggestions?
> >
> > Steve
> > ----- Original Message -----=20
> > From: "Ray Foret Jr." <rforetjr@xxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 8:28 PM
> > Subject: Re: Emailing: wavepad
> >
> >
> >> Sound recorder is crap.  It records directly to RAM rather=20
> than your hard
> >> drive; for one thing.  You can't do anything with it really...not
> > seriously
> >> anyhow.
> >>
> >> Sincerely Yours,
> >>
> >> The Constantly BAREFOOTED
> >> Ray
> >>
> >> Home Phone And Fax:  (985)853-0139
> >> E-mail and Windows Messenger:
> >> rforetjr@xxxxxxxxx
> >>
> >> God Bless President George W Bush
> >> God Bless America
> >> And God Bless Our Troops
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----=20
> >> From: "Steve" <PapaSchnelle@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 8:22 PM
> >> Subject: Re: Emailing: wavepad
> >>
> >>
> >> I guess what I'm thinking of is a multi track recorder and=20
> I think Cake
> > Walk
> >> is the only one of those; Pretty expensive though I've=20
> found out. Another
> >> friend of mine suggested Sound recorder or something like=20
> that. Has=20
> >> anyone
> >> heard of that program?
> >> ----- Original Message -----=20
> >> From: "dennis" <dennis.cornelison@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 7:53 AM
> >> Subject: Re: Emailing: wavepad
> >>
> >>
> >> > you can't burn cd's with goldwave but you can record anything.
> >> > ----- Original Message -----=20
> >> > From: "Steve" <PapaSchnelle@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2004 7:15 PM
> >> > Subject: Re: Emailing: wavepad
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > > Thanks for responding. Another question though, would=20
> Goldwave record
> >> > > stuff
> >> > > like instruments and vocals and burn them on C D?
> >> > > Steve
> >> > >
> >> > > ----- Original Message -----=20
> >> > > From: "dennis" <dennis.cornelison@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > > Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2004 7:59 AM
> >> > > Subject: Re: Emailing: wavepad
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >> i would say goldwave.
> >> > >> ----- Original Message -----=20
> >> > >> From: "Steve" <PapaSchnelle@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > >> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > >> Sent: Monday, December 27, 2004 5:29 PM
> >> > >> Subject: Re: Emailing: wavepad
> >> > >>
> >> > >>
> >> > >> > Jack, can you actually transfer music and stuff=20
> from cassette to C
> > D
> >> > > with
> >> > >> > this program? If not, which one would anyone recommend?
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > Steve
> >> > >> > ----- Original Message -----=20
> >> > >> > From: "Jack Lowe" <akronjack1982@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > >> > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > >> > Sent: Sunday, December 26, 2004 9:06 AM
> >> > >> > Subject: Emailing: wavepad
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> >> Content-Type: text/plain;
> >> > >> >> charset=3D"iso-8859-1"
> >> > >> >> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
> >> > >> >> Hello Everyone,
> >> > >> >>
> >> > >> >> If you happen to be a huge music fan as I am, and=20
> you love to do
> >> your
> >> > >> >> =3D
> >> > >> >> own editing.  Then you will love this program. =20
> It's completely
> > free
> >> > > for
> >> > >> >> =3D
> >> > >> >> as long as you use it.  95% of this programs=20
> features are free.
> > The
> >> =3D
> >> > >> >> ones that you have to pay for, I've never needed=20
> or wanted.  And,
> >> it's
> >> > > =3D
> >> > >> >> completely Jaws friendly.  Here's a little info about this=20
> >> > >> >> program
> > =3D
> >> > >> >> called Wave Pad.   Jack
> >> > >> >>
> >> > >> >> WavePad is a sound editor program for Windows.=20
> This software lets
> >> you
> >> > >> >> =3D
> >> > >> >> make and edit voice and other audio recordings.=20
> You can cut, copy
> >> and
> >> > >> >> =3D
> >> > >> >> paste parts
> >> > >> >> of recording and, if required, add effects like echo,
> > amplification
> >> > >> >> and
> >> > > =3D
> >> > >> >> noise reduction.
> >> > >> >>
> >> > >> >> WavePad is designed to be very easy and intuitive=20
> to use. Within
> >> > > minutes
> >> > >> >> =3D
> >> > >> >> you will be able to open or record a file and edit=20
> it. But if you
> >> take
> >> > > =3D
> >> > >> >> time to
> >> > >> >> explore the other features you will find many=20
> powerful tools
> >> designed
> >> > >> >> =3D
> >> > >> >> with the professional sound engineer in mind.
> >> > >> >>
> >> > >> >> A full list of WavePad's features follow but a=20
> quick way to try=20
> >> > >> >> it
> >> out
> >> > > =3D
> >> > >> >> is to download and install now. You don't need to=20
> purchase and it
> >> only
> >> > > =3D
> >> > >> >> takes a couple
> >> > >> >> of minutes to complete the process (
> >> > >> >>
> >> > >> >> WavePad is free.
> >> > >> >>
> >> > >> >> We make WavePad free in the hope you will like it=20
> so much you=20
> >> > >> >> will
> >> be
> >> > >> >> =3D
> >> > >> >> tempted to upgrade to WavePad Masters Edition. The Masters=20
> >> > >> >> Edition
> >> has
> >> > > =3D
> >> > >> >> additional
> >> > >> >> effects and features designed with the professional sound=20
> >> > >> >> engineer
> >> in
> >> > >> >> =3D
> >> > >> >> mind.
> >> > >> >> *Features*
> >> > >> >>
> >> > >> >> List of 9 items
> >> > >> >> . Supports a number of file formats including wav (multiple
> > codecs),
> >> =3D
> >> > >> >> mp3, vox, gsm, real audio, au, aif and more.
> >> > >> >> . Edit functions include Cut, Copy, Paste, Delete, Insert,
> > Silence,
> >> =3D
> >> > >> >> AutoTrim and others.
> >> > >> >> . Effects include, Amplify, Normalize, Equaliser, Envelope,
> > Reverb,
> >> =3D
> >> > >> >> Echo, Reverse, Noise Reduction, Sample Rate=20
> Conversion and more.
> >> > >> >> . Supports sample rates from 6000 to 96000Hz,=20
> stereo or mono, 8,
> > 16
> >> or
> >> > > =3D
> >> > >> >> 32 bits.
> >> > >> >> . Ability to work with multiple files at the same time in=20
> >> > >> >> seperate
> > =3D
> >> > >> >> screens.
> >> > >> >> . Includes a CD ripper to load audio directly and=20
> quickly from=20
> >> > >> >> CD.
> >> > >> >> . CD Burner function allows you to burn your sound=20
> files to CD.
> >> > >> >> . Player includes Scrub/Cue control for precise editing.
> >> > >> >> . Recorder supports autotrim and voice activated recording.
> >> > >> >> list end
> >> > >> >> The message is ready to be sent with the following=20
> file or link =3D
> >> > >> >> attachments:
> >> > >> >> Shortcut to: http://www.nch.com.au/wavepad/
> >> > >> >>
> >> > >> >> Note: To protect against computer viruses, e-mail=20
> programs may
> >> prevent
> >> > > =3D
> >> > >> >> sending or receiving certain types of file=20
> attachments.  Check
> > your
> >> =3D
> >> > >> >> e-mail security settings to determine how attachments are=20
> >> > >> >> handled.
> >> > >> >>
> >> > >> >>
> >> > >> >>
> >> > >> >> --
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> >> > --
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> >> > To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to
> >> jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the=20
> subject line.
> >> > Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
> >> >
> >> > If you have any concerns about the list, post received=20
> from the list,=20
> >> > or
> >> the way the list is being run, do not post them to the list. Rather
> > contact
> >> the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> >
> >> --
> >> To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to
> >> jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the=20
> subject line.
> >> Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
> >>
> >> If you have any concerns about the list, post received=20
> from the list, or
> > the
> >> way the list is being run, do not post them to the list.=20
> Rather contact
> > the
> >> list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>
> >>
> >> --=20
> >> No virus found in this incoming message.
> >> Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.
> >> Version: 7.0.298 / Virus Database: 265.6.6 - Release Date:=20
> 12/28/2004
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --=20
> >> No virus found in this outgoing message.
> >> Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.
> >> Version: 7.0.298 / Virus Database: 265.6.6 - Release Date:=20
> 12/28/2004
> >>
> >> --
> >> To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to
> > jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the=20
> subject line.
> >> Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
> >>
> >> If you have any concerns about the list, post received=20
> from the list, or
> > the way the list is being run, do not post them to the list. Rather=20
> > contact
> > the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>
> > --
> > To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to
> > jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the=20
> subject line.
> > Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
> >
> > If you have any concerns about the list, post received from=20
> the list, or=20
> > the
> > way the list is being run, do not post them to the list.=20
> Rather contact=20
> > the
> > list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >
> >
> > --=20
> > No virus found in this incoming message.
> > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.
> > Version: 7.0.298 / Virus Database: 265.6.6 - Release Date:=20
> 12/28/2004
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --=20
> > No virus found in this outgoing message.
> > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.
> > Version: 7.0.298 / Virus Database: 265.6.6 - Release Date:=20
> 12/28/2004
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > From: "philip" <philipmaher@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Subject: Command  prompt
> > Date: Wed, 29 Dec 2004 10:28:49 +0200
> >
> > hello
> > how could I make jaws read with dos window and command ?prompt .
> > also , could jaws read in ghost 7 or 8 ?
> > any help would be appreciated
> > philip
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > From: "Chandni" <chandni1@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Subject: Re: Digest mode clutter
> > Date: Thu, 30 Dec 2004 12:42:44 +0100
> >
> > I was just going to post about this. The digests have=20
> become so large it
> > takes my PC over 1 minute to open them. I'm afraid it will make my=20
> > computer
> > crash soon. I wonder if it's JAWS that slows it down or if=20
> the size is too
> > large for Outlook Express. Along with eliminating the=20
> useless clutter,
> > woldn't it be possible to put fewer messages in each digest=20
> issue? I think
> > the number of messages included in each issue has increased=20
> enormously.
> >
> > I too generally use the search feature to navigate in the=20
> digest email. I
> > usually read the list of subjects at the top and look for those of=20
> > interest.
> > The problem is that because of all the clutter at the=20
> bottom of messages,
> > subjects are repeated many times unnecessarily, and that=20
> makes finding the
> > next post in the thread extremely timeconsuming. Are there=20
> any tricks?
> >
> > Thanks and happy holidays to everyone
> >
> > Fran - Italy
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > From: "Jose Vilmar Estacio de Souza" <vilmar@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Subject: Re: Command  prompt
> > Date: Thu, 30 Dec 2004 09:54:11 -0200
> >
> > Hi,
> > Which jaws version?
> > Jaws 6 reads command prompt automatically.
> > Using jaws 5 you can make some adjustments in the scripts=20
> so that  the =3D
> > command prompt also can be read automatically.
> > ----- Original Message -----=3D20
> > From: "philip" <philipmaher@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 6:28 AM
> > Subject: Command prompt=3D20
> >
> >
> > hello=3D20
> > how could I make jaws read with dos window and command ?prompt .
> > also , could jaws read in ghost 7 or 8 ?
> > any help would be appreciated=3D20
> > philip=3D20
> > --
> > To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to =3D
> > jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the=20
> subject line.
> > Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
> >
> > If you have any concerns about the list, post received from=20
> the list, or =3D
> > the way the list is being run, do not post them to the=20
> list. Rather =3D
> > contact the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >
> >
> > --=3D20
> > No virus found in this incoming message.
> > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.
> > Version: 7.0.298 / Virus Database: 265.6.6 - Release Date:=20
> 12/28/2004
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --=20
> > No virus found in this outgoing message.
> > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.
> > Version: 7.0.298 / Virus Database: 265.6.6 - Release Date:=20
> 12/28/2004
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > From: "John Miller" <n1umj@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Subject: Re: AVG Anti Virus
> > Date: Thu, 30 Dec 2004 07:22:46 -0500
> >
> > you obviously weren't keeping Norton up to date then=20
> because I've never=20
> > had
> > an infection with Norton and can honestly say, if you want=20
> to put your=20
> > faith
> > in a product that's free where they can turn around and=20
> stop tech support
> > any time they want, and in the antivirus world where you=20
> generally get=20
> > what
> > you pay for, it's your choice but I'm staying with what I=20
> know works with
> > jaws, and more importantly, what I know will keep my computer safe.
> > ----- Original Message -----=20
> > From: "Kerri" <ruby75@xxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 12:16 AM
> > Subject: Re: AVG Anti Virus
> >
> >
> >> Hello! I have also used AVG 6 andnow 7 and have never had=20
> any infection.
> >> however,with norton, I had about 3 or so serious infections.
> >> ----- Original Message -----=20
> >> From: "Ray Foret Jr." <rforetjr@xxxxxxxxx>
> >> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 6:36 AM
> >> Subject: Re: AVG Anti Virus
> >>
> >>
> >> I use AVG as my anti virus.  I use the free version. =20
> Version 7 is good
> >> with
> >> JAWS version 6.  Be aware that you'll have to set your=20
> JAWS up to read=20
> >> all
> >> text rather than just highlighted text when you go in to=20
> the program's
> >> control center.  If you like, you can set JAWS up so that=20
> it only reads
> >> all
> >> text while in the virus vault and the control center and=20
> just highlighted
> >> text else where in the program.  I've had it for months=20
> and never an
> >> infection once ever.
> >>
> >> Sincerely Yours,
> >>
> >> The Constantly BAREFOOTED
> >> Ray
> >>
> >> Home Phone And Fax:  (985)853-0139
> >> E-mail and Windows Messenger:
> >> rforetjr@xxxxxxxxx
> >>
> >> God Bless President George W Bush
> >> God Bless America
> >> And God Bless Our Troops
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----=20
> >> From: "Linksma Mezgeja" <love2knit@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> To: "jfw" <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 7:19 AM
> >> Subject: AVG Anti Virus
> >>
> >>
> >> Hi!  Does anybody use AVG as their anti virus? If so, how=20
> accessible is=20
> >> it
> >> for the new version of JAWS which I hope to install from=20
> disc, after it
> >> arrives?
> >> If you have used Norton and changed over to AVG, which do=20
> you prefer
> >> strictly as an anti virus?
> >> Thanks.
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to
> >> jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the=20
> subject line.
> >> Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
> >>
> >> If you have any concerns about the list, post received=20
> from the list, or
> >> the
> >> way the list is being run, do not post them to the list.=20
> Rather contact
> >> the
> >> list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>
> >>
> >> --=20
> >> No virus found in this incoming message.
> >> Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.
> >> Version: 7.0.298 / Virus Database: 265.6.6 - Release Date:=20
> 12/28/2004
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --=20
> >> No virus found in this outgoing message.
> >> Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.
> >> Version: 7.0.298 / Virus Database: 265.6.6 - Release Date:=20
> 12/28/2004
> >>
> >> --
> >> To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to
> >> jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the=20
> subject line.
> >> Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
> >>
> >> If you have any concerns about the list, post received=20
> from the list, or
> >> the
> >> way the list is being run, do not post them to the list.=20
> Rather contact
> >> the
> >> list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>
> >>
> >> --=20
> >> No virus found in this incoming message.
> >> Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.
> >> Version: 7.0.298 / Virus Database: 265.6.6 - Release Date:=20
> 12/28/2004
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --=20
> >> No virus found in this outgoing message.
> >> Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.
> >> Version: 7.0.298 / Virus Database: 265.6.6 - Release Date:=20
> 12/28/2004
> >>
> >> --
> >> To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to
> >> jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the=20
> subject line.
> >> Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
> >>
> >> If you have any concerns about the list, post received=20
> from the list, or
> >> the way the list is being run, do not post them to the list. Rather
> >> contact the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Date: Thu, 30 Dec 2004 07:35:09 -0500
> > From: Bill <bill.cam@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Subject: Re: Cakewalk info
> >
> > first of all jfw actually had scripts for one versin of=20
> cake walk, long=20
> > ago.
> >
> > secondly cake walk is much more than an editor.
> >
> > its designed to let one create their own music.
> >
> > by the way cake walk is no longer the product of choice here, its
> > replacement is sonar and the dancing dots sonar talking=20
> scripts for it.
> >
> >
> > multi tracking yes.
> >
> > software music synths are supported in sonar.
> >
> > think their is even a acid type program included with sonar.
> >
> > not sure how it compares to acid.
> >
> > acid is designed to create loops.
> >
> > also sonar and cake walk correspond more with sonic foundry=20
> vegas, but=20
> > they
> > include some thing vegas does not, midi support.
> >
> >
> > you can use a editor program in conjunction with cake walk or sonar.
> >
> > like sound forge.
> >
> > your looking at about 600 dollars to buy sonar and the scripts.
> >
> > though it is possible to use sonar with out them, its more=20
> speech friendly
> > than cake walk was.
> >
> >
> >
> > bill
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > From: "Joseph Machise" <josephmachise@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Subject: Re: AVG Anti Virus
> > Date: Thu, 30 Dec 2004 07:37:37 -0500
> >
> > Hello joe with you.
> >
> > I had norton and I had a hell of a time with norton, and=20
> jaws doesn't like
> > norton.
> >
> > The people @ freedomscientific are write. That jaws doesn't=20
> like Norton.
> > Good luck from Joseph.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "Why "do "bad "things "Happen "to "good "people!
> >
> >
> >
> > !With love always from Joseph.
> > ----- Original Message -----=20
> > From: "John Miller" <n1umj@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 7:22 AM
> > Subject: Re: AVG Anti Virus
> >
> >
> >> you obviously weren't keeping Norton up to date then=20
> because I've never
> > had
> >> an infection with Norton and can honestly say, if you want=20
> to put your
> > faith
> >> in a product that's free where they can turn around and=20
> stop tech support
> >> any time they want, and in the antivirus world where you=20
> generally get
> > what
> >> you pay for, it's your choice but I'm staying with what I=20
> know works with
> >> jaws, and more importantly, what I know will keep my computer safe.
> >> ----- Original Message -----=20
> >> From: "Kerri" <ruby75@xxxxxxxxx>
> >> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 12:16 AM
> >> Subject: Re: AVG Anti Virus
> >>
> >>
> >> > Hello! I have also used AVG 6 andnow 7 and have never had any=20
> >> > infection.
> >> > however,with norton, I had about 3 or so serious infections.
> >> > ----- Original Message -----=20
> >> > From: "Ray Foret Jr." <rforetjr@xxxxxxxxx>
> >> > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 6:36 AM
> >> > Subject: Re: AVG Anti Virus
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > I use AVG as my anti virus.  I use the free version. =20
> Version 7 is good
> >> > with
> >> > JAWS version 6.  Be aware that you'll have to set your=20
> JAWS up to read
> > all
> >> > text rather than just highlighted text when you go in to=20
> the program's
> >> > control center.  If you like, you can set JAWS up so=20
> that it only reads
> >> > all
> >> > text while in the virus vault and the control center and just
> > highlighted
> >> > text else where in the program.  I've had it for months=20
> and never an
> >> > infection once ever.
> >> >
> >> > Sincerely Yours,
> >> >
> >> > The Constantly BAREFOOTED
> >> > Ray
> >> >
> >> > Home Phone And Fax:  (985)853-0139
> >> > E-mail and Windows Messenger:
> >> > rforetjr@xxxxxxxxx
> >> >
> >> > God Bless President George W Bush
> >> > God Bless America
> >> > And God Bless Our Troops
> >> >
> >> > ----- Original Message -----=20
> >> > From: "Linksma Mezgeja" <love2knit@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > To: "jfw" <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 7:19 AM
> >> > Subject: AVG Anti Virus
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Hi!  Does anybody use AVG as their anti virus? If so,=20
> how accessible is
> > it
> >> > for the new version of JAWS which I hope to install from=20
> disc, after it
> >> > arrives?
> >> > If you have used Norton and changed over to AVG, which=20
> do you prefer
> >> > strictly as an anti virus?
> >> > Thanks.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to
> >> > jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in=20
> the subject=20
> >> > line.
> >> > Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
> >> >
> >> > If you have any concerns about the list, post received=20
> from the list,=20
> >> > or
> >> > the
> >> > way the list is being run, do not post them to the list.=20
> Rather contact
> >> > the
> >> > list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > --=20
> >> > No virus found in this incoming message.
> >> > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.
> >> > Version: 7.0.298 / Virus Database: 265.6.6 - Release=20
> Date: 12/28/2004
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > --=20
> >> > No virus found in this outgoing message.
> >> > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.
> >> > Version: 7.0.298 / Virus Database: 265.6.6 - Release=20
> Date: 12/28/2004
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to
> >> > jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in=20
> the subject=20
> >> > line.
> >> > Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
> >> >
> >> > If you have any concerns about the list, post received=20
> from the list,=20
> >> > or
> >> > the
> >> > way the list is being run, do not post them to the list.=20
> Rather contact
> >> > the
> >> > list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > --=20
> >> > No virus found in this incoming message.
> >> > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.
> >> > Version: 7.0.298 / Virus Database: 265.6.6 - Release=20
> Date: 12/28/2004
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > --=20
> >> > No virus found in this outgoing message.
> >> > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.
> >> > Version: 7.0.298 / Virus Database: 265.6.6 - Release=20
> Date: 12/28/2004
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to
> >> > jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in=20
> the subject=20
> >> > line.
> >> > Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
> >> >
> >> > If you have any concerns about the list, post received=20
> from the list,=20
> >> > or
> >> > the way the list is being run, do not post them to the=20
> list. Rather
> >> > contact the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to
> > jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the=20
> subject line.
> >> Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
> >>
> >> If you have any concerns about the list, post received=20
> from the list, or
> > the way the list is being run, do not post them to the list. Rather=20
> > contact
> > the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > From: "John Miller" <n1umj@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Subject: Re: AVG Anti Virus
> > Date: Thu, 30 Dec 2004 07:46:03 -0500
> >
> > I never had a problem with Norton and jaws in 5 years and=20
> in fact FS told=20
> > me
> > it is very workable so I don't know who you talked to but=20
> fact is, it=20
> > works
> > with jaws as well as anything I've ever used and as far as=20
> protection it's
> > by far the best I've ever used.
> > ----- Original Message -----=20
> > From: "Joseph Machise" <josephmachise@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 7:37 AM
> > Subject: Re: AVG Anti Virus
> >
> >
> >> Hello joe with you.
> >>
> >> I had norton and I had a hell of a time with norton, and=20
> jaws doesn't=20
> >> like
> >> norton.
> >>
> >> The people @ freedomscientific are write. That jaws=20
> doesn't like Norton.
> >> Good luck from Joseph.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> "Why "do "bad "things "Happen "to "good "people!
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> !With love always from Joseph.
> >> ----- Original Message -----=20
> >> From: "John Miller" <n1umj@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 7:22 AM
> >> Subject: Re: AVG Anti Virus
> >>
> >>
> >>> you obviously weren't keeping Norton up to date then=20
> because I've never
> >> had
> >>> an infection with Norton and can honestly say, if you=20
> want to put your
> >> faith
> >>> in a product that's free where they can turn around and stop tech=20
> >>> support
> >>> any time they want, and in the antivirus world where you=20
> generally get
> >> what
> >>> you pay for, it's your choice but I'm staying with what I=20
> know works=20
> >>> with
> >>> jaws, and more importantly, what I know will keep my=20
> computer safe.
> >>> ----- Original Message -----=20
> >>> From: "Kerri" <ruby75@xxxxxxxxx>
> >>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>> Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 12:16 AM
> >>> Subject: Re: AVG Anti Virus
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> > Hello! I have also used AVG 6 andnow 7 and have never had any
> >>> > infection.
> >>> > however,with norton, I had about 3 or so serious infections.
> >>> > ----- Original Message -----=20
> >>> > From: "Ray Foret Jr." <rforetjr@xxxxxxxxx>
> >>> > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>> > Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 6:36 AM
> >>> > Subject: Re: AVG Anti Virus
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > I use AVG as my anti virus.  I use the free version. =20
> Version 7 is=20
> >>> > good
> >>> > with
> >>> > JAWS version 6.  Be aware that you'll have to set your=20
> JAWS up to read
> >> all
> >>> > text rather than just highlighted text when you go in=20
> to the program's
> >>> > control center.  If you like, you can set JAWS up so=20
> that it only=20
> >>> > reads
> >>> > all
> >>> > text while in the virus vault and the control center and just
> >> highlighted
> >>> > text else where in the program.  I've had it for months=20
> and never an
> >>> > infection once ever.
> >>> >
> >>> > Sincerely Yours,
> >>> >
> >>> > The Constantly BAREFOOTED
> >>> > Ray
> >>> >
> >>> > Home Phone And Fax:  (985)853-0139
> >>> > E-mail and Windows Messenger:
> >>> > rforetjr@xxxxxxxxx
> >>> >
> >>> > God Bless President George W Bush
> >>> > God Bless America
> >>> > And God Bless Our Troops
> >>> >
> >>> > ----- Original Message -----=20
> >>> > From: "Linksma Mezgeja" <love2knit@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>> > To: "jfw" <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>> > Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 7:19 AM
> >>> > Subject: AVG Anti Virus
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > Hi!  Does anybody use AVG as their anti virus? If so,=20
> how accessible=20
> >>> > is
> >> it
> >>> > for the new version of JAWS which I hope to install=20
> from disc, after=20
> >>> > it
> >>> > arrives?
> >>> > If you have used Norton and changed over to AVG, which=20
> do you prefer
> >>> > strictly as an anti virus?
> >>> > Thanks.
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > --
> >>> > To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>> > To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to
> >>> > jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in=20
> the subject
> >>> > line.
> >>> > Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
> >>> >
> >>> > If you have any concerns about the list, post received=20
> from the list,
> >>> > or
> >>> > the
> >>> > way the list is being run, do not post them to the list. Rather=20
> >>> > contact
> >>> > the
> >>> > list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > --=20
> >>> > No virus found in this incoming message.
> >>> > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.
> >>> > Version: 7.0.298 / Virus Database: 265.6.6 - Release=20
> Date: 12/28/2004
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > --=20
> >>> > No virus found in this outgoing message.
> >>> > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.
> >>> > Version: 7.0.298 / Virus Database: 265.6.6 - Release=20
> Date: 12/28/2004
> >>> >
> >>> > --
> >>> > To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>> > To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to
> >>> > jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in=20
> the subject
> >>> > line.
> >>> > Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
> >>> >
> >>> > If you have any concerns about the list, post received=20
> from the list,
> >>> > or
> >>> > the
> >>> > way the list is being run, do not post them to the list. Rather=20
> >>> > contact
> >>> > the
> >>> > list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > --=20
> >>> > No virus found in this incoming message.
> >>> > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.
> >>> > Version: 7.0.298 / Virus Database: 265.6.6 - Release=20
> Date: 12/28/2004
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > --=20
> >>> > No virus found in this outgoing message.
> >>> > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.
> >>> > Version: 7.0.298 / Virus Database: 265.6.6 - Release=20
> Date: 12/28/2004
> >>> >
> >>> > --
> >>> > To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>> > To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to
> >>> > jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in=20
> the subject
> >>> > line.
> >>> > Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
> >>> >
> >>> > If you have any concerns about the list, post received=20
> from the list,
> >>> > or
> >>> > the way the list is being run, do not post them to the=20
> list. Rather
> >>> > contact the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>> To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to
> >> jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the=20
> subject line.
> >>> Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
> >>>
> >>> If you have any concerns about the list, post received=20
> from the list, or
> >> the way the list is being run, do not post them to the list. Rather
> >> contact
> >> the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>
> >> --
> >> To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to
> >> jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the=20
> subject line.
> >> Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
> >>
> >> If you have any concerns about the list, post received=20
> from the list, or
> >> the way the list is being run, do not post them to the list. Rather
> >> contact the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > From: "Mark Arnold" <marnold@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Subject: Re: Jaws for Iraq veterans!
> > Date: Thu, 30 Dec 2004 07:47:46 -0500
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> > I would like to echo the sentiments of many of the list=20
> members.  My name=20
> > is
> > Mark Arnold and I live outside of Akron, Ohio.  I have been=20
> using JAWS for
> > almost seven years now.  I am a high school educator with teaching
> > experience.  Although I am not a certified assistive=20
> technology trainer, I
> > would be more than happy to mentor or tutor a veteran... =20
> Please feel free
> > to contact me off list at
> > marnold@xxxxxxxxxxx
> >
> > Respectfully,
> > Mark Arnold
> > ----- Original Message -----=20
> > From: "Cy" <cselfridge@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 1:01 AM
> > Subject: RE: Jaws for Iraq veterans!
> >
> >
> >> Hi, I live in Tulsa Oklahoma and have used JAWS for about=20
> ten years.
> >> I would be happy to lend a hand.
> >> My email is:
> >> cselfridge@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> Cy Selfridge...
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> >> Behalf Of David Grossoehme
> >> Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 8:01 PM
> >> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> Subject: Re: Jaws for Iraq veterans!
> >>
> >>
> >> Jackm, you not alone.  This is Dave Grossoehme and I live=20
> in Omaha, ne.
> >> I
> >> would be glad to help teach anyone to use Jaws here in=20
> Omaha.  I'be a
> >> Jaws
> >> user for approximately 9 years.  You can email me at=20
> anytime and I've
> >> glad
> >> to help out.
> >> Your Friend
> >> Dave
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----=20
> >> From: "Jack Lowe" <akronjack1982@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 12:34 PM
> >> Subject: Re: Jaws for Iraq veterans!
> >>
> >>
> >>> Well, I don't have any legal certification.  But I have=20
> been a Jaws
> >>> user
> >>> for
> >>> 5 and a half years.  And, I've independently taught a few=20
> people the
> >> Jaws
> >>> program.
> >>> I live in Akron Ohio.  If I can be of any help, please=20
> feel free to
> >>> contact
> >>> me off list at:
> >>> akronjack1982@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>> It would be an honor to help out those who are fighting=20
> to keep our
> >> nation
> >>> safe.   Jack
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To
> >>> unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to
> >>> jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject
> >>> line. Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
> >>>
> >>> If you have any concerns about the list, post received=20
> from the list,
> >>> or
> >>> the way the list is being run, do not post them to the=20
> list. Rather
> >>> contact the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> No virus found in this incoming message.
> >>> Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.
> >>> Version: 7.0.298 / Virus Database: 265.6.6 - Release=20
> Date: 12/28/2004
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --=20
> >> No virus found in this outgoing message.
> >> Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.
> >> Version: 7.0.298 / Virus Database: 265.6.6 - Release Date:=20
> 12/28/2004
> >>
> >> --
> >> To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to
> >> jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the=20
> subject line.
> >> Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
> >>
> >> If you have any concerns about the list, post received=20
> from the list, or
> >> the way the list is being run, do not post them to the list. Rather
> >> contact the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>
> >> ---
> >> Incoming mail is certified Virus Free.
> >> Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).
> >> Version: 6.0.823 / Virus Database: 561 - Release Date: 12/26/2004
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to
> >> jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the=20
> subject line.
> >> Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
> >>
> >> If you have any concerns about the list, post received=20
> from the list, or
> >> the way the list is being run, do not post them to the list. Rather
> >> contact the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Date: Thu, 30 Dec 2004 19:02:32 +0530
> > From: Pranav Lal <nomad42@xxxxxxxx>
> > Subject: Re: JFW and the security testing products from grc.com
> >
> >
> > Steve,
> > <snip As far as the ShieldsUp button, double-click it=20
> rapidly with the
> > left-mouse
> > key.
> > PL] I cannot find the button on the page.
> >
> > Pranav
> >=20
> --------------------------------------------------------------
> --------------------------------------------------------------
> -----------
> > Pranav
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Date: Thu, 30 Dec 2004 07:56:54 -0600
> > From: Patrick Byrne <k9jau@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Subject: Re: AVG Anti Virus
> >
> > I have used various Norton products with various versions=20
> of JFW; all
> > successfully.
> > Good luck.
> > Pat ByrneAt 07:37 AM 12/30/2004 -0500, you wrote:
> >>Hello joe with you.
> >>
> >>I had norton and I had a hell of a time with norton, and=20
> jaws doesn't like
> >>norton.
> >>
> >>The people @ freedomscientific are write. That jaws doesn't=20
> like Norton.
> >>Good luck from Joseph.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>"Why "do "bad "things "Happen "to "good "people!
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>!With love always from Joseph.
> >>----- Original Message -----
> >>From: "John Miller" <n1umj@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 7:22 AM
> >>Subject: Re: AVG Anti Virus
> >>
> >>
> >> > you obviously weren't keeping Norton up to date then=20
> because I've never
> >>had
> >> > an infection with Norton and can honestly say, if you=20
> want to put your
> >>faith
> >> > in a product that's free where they can turn around and=20
> stop tech=20
> >> > support
> >> > any time they want, and in the antivirus world where you=20
> generally get
> >>what
> >> > you pay for, it's your choice but I'm staying with what=20
> I know works=20
> >> > with
> >> > jaws, and more importantly, what I know will keep my=20
> computer safe.
> >> > ----- Original Message -----
> >> > From: "Kerri" <ruby75@xxxxxxxxx>
> >> > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 12:16 AM
> >> > Subject: Re: AVG Anti Virus
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > > Hello! I have also used AVG 6 andnow 7 and have never had any=20
> >> > > infection.
> >> > > however,with norton, I had about 3 or so serious infections.
> >> > > ----- Original Message -----
> >> > > From: "Ray Foret Jr." <rforetjr@xxxxxxxxx>
> >> > > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > > Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 6:36 AM
> >> > > Subject: Re: AVG Anti Virus
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > I use AVG as my anti virus.  I use the free version. =20
> Version 7 is=20
> >> > > good
> >> > > with
> >> > > JAWS version 6.  Be aware that you'll have to set your=20
> JAWS up to=20
> >> > > read
> >>all
> >> > > text rather than just highlighted text when you go in to the=20
> >> > > program's
> >> > > control center.  If you like, you can set JAWS up so=20
> that it only=20
> >> > > reads
> >> > > all
> >> > > text while in the virus vault and the control center and just
> >>highlighted
> >> > > text else where in the program.  I've had it for=20
> months and never an
> >> > > infection once ever.
> >> > >
> >> > > Sincerely Yours,
> >> > >
> >> > > The Constantly BAREFOOTED
> >> > > Ray
> >> > >
> >> > > Home Phone And Fax:  (985)853-0139
> >> > > E-mail and Windows Messenger:
> >> > > rforetjr@xxxxxxxxx
> >> > >
> >> > > God Bless President George W Bush
> >> > > God Bless America
> >> > > And God Bless Our Troops
> >> > >
> >> > > ----- Original Message -----
> >> > > From: "Linksma Mezgeja" <love2knit@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > > To: "jfw" <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > > Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 7:19 AM
> >> > > Subject: AVG Anti Virus
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > Hi!  Does anybody use AVG as their anti virus? If so,=20
> how accessible=20
> >> > > is
> >>it
> >> > > for the new version of JAWS which I hope to install=20
> from disc, after=20
> >> > > it
> >> > > arrives?
> >> > > If you have used Norton and changed over to AVG, which=20
> do you prefer
> >> > > strictly as an anti virus?
> >> > > Thanks.
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > --
> >> > > To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > > To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to
> >> > > jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in=20
> the subject=20
> >> > > line.
> >> > > Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
> >> > >
> >> > > If you have any concerns about the list, post received=20
> from the list,=20
> >> > > or
> >> > > the
> >> > > way the list is being run, do not post them to the=20
> list. Rather=20
> >> > > contact
> >> > > the
> >> > > list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > --
> >> > > No virus found in this incoming message.
> >> > > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.
> >> > > Version: 7.0.298 / Virus Database: 265.6.6 - Release=20
> Date: 12/28/2004
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > --
> >> > > No virus found in this outgoing message.
> >> > > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.
> >> > > Version: 7.0.298 / Virus Database: 265.6.6 - Release=20
> Date: 12/28/2004
> >> > >
> >> > > --
> >> > > To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > > To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to
> >> > > jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in=20
> the subject=20
> >> > > line.
> >> > > Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
> >> > >
> >> > > If you have any concerns about the list, post received=20
> from the list,=20
> >> > > or
> >> > > the
> >> > > way the list is being run, do not post them to the=20
> list. Rather=20
> >> > > contact
> >> > > the
> >> > > list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > --
> >> > > No virus found in this incoming message.
> >> > > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.
> >> > > Version: 7.0.298 / Virus Database: 265.6.6 - Release=20
> Date: 12/28/2004
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > --
> >> > > No virus found in this outgoing message.
> >> > > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.
> >> > > Version: 7.0.298 / Virus Database: 265.6.6 - Release=20
> Date: 12/28/2004
> >> > >
> >> > > --
> >> > > To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > > To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to
> >> > > jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in=20
> the subject=20
> >> > > line.
> >> > > Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
> >> > >
> >> > > If you have any concerns about the list, post received=20
> from the list,=20
> >> > > or
> >> > > the way the list is being run, do not post them to the=20
> list. Rather
> >> > > contact the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to
> >>jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the=20
> subject line.
> >> > Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
> >> >
> >> > If you have any concerns about the list, post received=20
> from the list,=20
> >> > or
> >>the way the list is being run, do not post them to the list. Rather=20
> >>contact
> >>the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>
> >>--
> >>To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to
> >>jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the=20
> subject line.
> >>Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
> >>
> >>If you have any concerns about the list, post received from=20
> the list, or
> >>the way the list is being run, do not post them to the list. Rather
> >>contact the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > From: "chevelle" <chevelle33@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Subject: Re: sounds manager
> > Date: Thu, 30 Dec 2004 09:02:00 -0500
> >
> > YOu didn't tell them how to open the default manager. Maybe=20
> they dont know
> > how to do that.
> > ----- Original Message -----=20
> > From: "david poehlman" <david.poehlman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 8:44 PM
> > Subject: Re: sounds manager
> >
> >
> >>I told someone to open default configuration manager.
> >>
> >> Johnnie Apple Seed
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----=20
> >> From: "chevelle" <chevelle33@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 8:33 PM
> >> Subject: Re: sounds manager
> >>
> >>
> >> Look at your won post. You told someone to choose default.=20
> How! do! you!
> >> choose! the default!
> >> ----- Original Message -----=20
> >> From: "david poehlman" <david.poehlman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 8:22 PM
> >> Subject: Re: sounds manager
> >>
> >>
> >>> what default?
> >>>
> >>> Johnnie Apple Seed
> >>>
> >>> ----- Original Message -----=20
> >>> From: "chevelle" <chevelle33@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>> Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 8:19 PM
> >>> Subject: Re: sounds manager
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> That doesn't explain how you choose the default.
> >>> ----- Original Message -----=20
> >>> From: "david poehlman" <david.poehlman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>> Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 7:50 PM
> >>> Subject: Re: sounds manager
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> default is classic.
> >>>>
> >>>> Johnnie Apple Seed
> >>>>
> >>>> ----- Original Message -----=20
> >>>> From: "chevelle" <chevelle33@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 7:36 PM
> >>>> Subject: Re: sounds manager
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> How do you choose the default, and how do you get to the=20
> speech and
> >>>> sounds
> >>>> manager?
> >>>> ----- Original Message -----=20
> >>>> From: "david poehlman" <david.poehlman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 6:26 PM
> >>>> Subject: Re: sounds manager
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> speech and sounds manager is simple but there are a lot=20
> of choices to
> >>>>> make
> >>>>> or to choose from among.  You must look through it and=20
> figure out what
> >>>>> yu
> >>>>> want to do.  It is not hard to do any of it and you=20
> must also choose
> >>>>> the
> >>>>> app
> >>>>> you intend to work with.  Choose default if you wish by=20
> opening the
> >>>>> default
> >>>>> configuration manager and choosing speech and sounds manager and
> >>>>> opening
> >>>>> it
> >>>>> up, click edit scheme button and press space, the first=20
> tab is the
> >>>>> general
> >>>>> tab and you can leave the description the way it is,=20
> ctrl+tab to the
> >>>>> other
> >>>>> pages and look through the options and things you can=20
> ghance and=20
> >>>>> decide
> >>>>> what
> >>>>> to change.  If you want to change the way a slider sounds for=20
> >>>>> instance,
> >>>>> go
> >>>>> to the bottom of the list on the first page and then=20
> tab to the group
> >>>>> of
> >>>>> four radio buttons and select the one you want the=20
> bahavior for.  Play
> >>>>> sound
> >>>>> is at the bottom, and for that, you must choose a wav=20
> file with the
> >>>>> next
> >>>>> button in tab order.  Once yu are done with the=20
> settings, click ok and
> >>>>> ok
> >>>>> again if need be, close and save.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Johnnie Apple Seed
> >>>>>
> >>>>> ----- Original Message -----=20
> >>>>> From: <ptusing@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>>>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 5:40 PM
> >>>>> Subject: sounds manager
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Hi,
> >>>>> Could some one for the sake of argument go through like=20
>  the  steps in
> >>>>> order
> >>>>> for setting the sounds  manager to put a sound on to let's say
> >>>>> something useful.
> >>>>> Thanks.
> >>>>> I was looking for this info as in sounds manager  in=20
> the JAWS  6 help
> >>>>> topics.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> --
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> >>>>> way the list is being run, do not post them to the list. Rather=20
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> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > From: "chevelle" <chevelle33@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Subject: Re: sounds manager
> > Date: Thu, 30 Dec 2004 09:31:13 -0500
> >
> > Thanks for that, but actually I was trying to make a point=20
> to a certain
> > person because he did the same thing to me.
> > ----- Original Message -----=20
> > From: "Horspool, Matthew F." <drjaws@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 4:01 AM
> > Subject: RE: sounds manager
> >
> >
> >> From config manager, press CTRL+SHFT+D.  Now press ALT+S=20
> and DownArrow
> >> to "Speech and Sounds Manager" and press ENTER.  Now you're there.
> >> Select "classic" from the list of schemes that should have=20
> focus.  Now
> >> press Tab, then ENTER.  Press CTRL+TAB and select your control type
> >> (slider, button).  Press tab and select an action (Ignore,=20
> play a sound,
> >> change the voice...).  If you've selected "voice" or=20
> "sound", press tab,
> >> then enter.  There should be a list, select what you want.=20
>  If you are
> >> choosing a sound, press the SPACEBAR over the sound to=20
> play it.  When
> >> you're done, press ENTER.  TAB to "OK" and press it.  TAB=20
> to "SAVE" and
> >> press it.  You're done!
> >>
> >> -------------------------
> >> Mr. Matthew F. Horspool
> >>
> >> Send me an Electronic Mail to
> >> drjaws@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>
> >> Add
> >> horspool@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> to your MSN contact list
> >>
> >> Or Visit my web site at
> >> http://www.horspool.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk
> >> -------------------------
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> >> Behalf Of chevelle
> >> Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 1:19 AM
> >> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> Subject: Re: sounds manager
> >>
> >>
> >> That doesn't explain how you choose the default.
> >> ----- Original Message -----=20
> >> From: "david poehlman" <david.poehlman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 7:50 PM
> >> Subject: Re: sounds manager
> >>
> >>
> >>> default is classic.
> >>>
> >>> Johnnie Apple Seed
> >>>
> >>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>> From: "chevelle" <chevelle33@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>> Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 7:36 PM
> >>> Subject: Re: sounds manager
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> How do you choose the default, and how do you get to the=20
> speech and
> >>> sounds manager?
> >>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>> From: "david poehlman" <david.poehlman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>> Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 6:26 PM
> >>> Subject: Re: sounds manager
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> speech and sounds manager is simple but there are a lot=20
> of choices to
> >>>> make
> >>>> or to choose from among.  You must look through it and figure out
> >> what yu
> >>>> want to do.  It is not hard to do any of it and you must=20
> also choose
> >> the
> >>>> app
> >>>> you intend to work with.  Choose default if you wish by=20
> opening the
> >>>> default
> >>>> configuration manager and choosing speech and sounds manager and
> >> opening
> >>>> it
> >>>> up, click edit scheme button and press space, the first=20
> tab is the
> >>>> general
> >>>> tab and you can leave the description the way it is,=20
> ctrl+tab to the
> >>>> other
> >>>> pages and look through the options and things you can ghance and
> >> decide
> >>>> what
> >>>> to change.  If you want to change the way a slider sounds for
> >> instance,
> >>>> go
> >>>> to the bottom of the list on the first page and then tab=20
> to the group
> >> of
> >>>> four radio buttons and select the one you want the bahavior for.
> >> Play
> >>>> sound
> >>>> is at the bottom, and for that, you must choose a wav=20
> file with the
> >> next
> >>>> button in tab order.  Once yu are done with the=20
> settings, click ok
> >> and ok
> >>>> again if need be, close and save.
> >>>>
> >>>> Johnnie Apple Seed
> >>>>
> >>>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>>> From: <ptusing@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 5:40 PM
> >>>> Subject: sounds manager
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Hi,
> >>>> Could some one for the sake of argument go through like =20
> the  steps
> >>>> in order for setting the sounds  manager to put a sound=20
> on to let's
> >>>> say something useful.
> >>>> Thanks.
> >>>> I was looking for this info as in sounds manager  in the=20
> JAWS  6 help
> >>>> topics.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To
> >>>> unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to
> >>>> jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in=20
> the subject
> >>>> line. Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
> >>>>
> >>>> If you have any concerns about the list, post received=20
> from the list,
> >>
> >>>> or the way the list is being run, do not post them to the list.
> >>>> Rather contact the
> >>>> list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To
> >>>> unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to
> >>>> jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in=20
> the subject
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> from the list,
> >>
> >>>> or the way the list is being run, do not post them to the list.
> >>>> Rather contact the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>
> >>> --
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> >>> unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to
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> >>>
> >>> If you have any concerns about the list, post received=20
> from the list,
> >>> or
> >>> the
> >>> way the list is being run, do not post them to the list. Rather
> >> contact
> >>> the
> >>> list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To
> >>> unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to
> >>> jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject
> >>> line. Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
> >>>
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> from the list,
> >>> or
> >>> the way the list is being run, do not post them to the=20
> list. Rather
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> >>
> >> --
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> >> To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to
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> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > From: "chevelle" <chevelle33@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Subject: Re: AVG Anti Virus
> > Date: Thu, 30 Dec 2004 09:35:56 -0500
> >
> > Hey John, agree with you totally. I used the live update, and the=20
> > automatic
> > update, and never a virus.
> > ----- Original Message -----=20
> > From: "John Miller" <n1umj@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 7:22 AM
> > Subject: Re: AVG Anti Virus
> >
> >
> >> you obviously weren't keeping Norton up to date then=20
> because I've never
> >> had
> >> an infection with Norton and can honestly say, if you want=20
> to put your
> >> faith
> >> in a product that's free where they can turn around and=20
> stop tech support
> >> any time they want, and in the antivirus world where you=20
> generally get
> >> what
> >> you pay for, it's your choice but I'm staying with what I=20
> know works with
> >> jaws, and more importantly, what I know will keep my computer safe.
> >> ----- Original Message -----=20
> >> From: "Kerri" <ruby75@xxxxxxxxx>
> >> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 12:16 AM
> >> Subject: Re: AVG Anti Virus
> >>
> >>
> >>> Hello! I have also used AVG 6 andnow 7 and have never had=20
> any infection.
> >>> however,with norton, I had about 3 or so serious infections.
> >>> ----- Original Message -----=20
> >>> From: "Ray Foret Jr." <rforetjr@xxxxxxxxx>
> >>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>> Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 6:36 AM
> >>> Subject: Re: AVG Anti Virus
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> I use AVG as my anti virus.  I use the free version. =20
> Version 7 is good
> >>> with
> >>> JAWS version 6.  Be aware that you'll have to set your=20
> JAWS up to read
> >>> all
> >>> text rather than just highlighted text when you go in to=20
> the program's
> >>> control center.  If you like, you can set JAWS up so that=20
> it only reads
> >>> all
> >>> text while in the virus vault and the control center and just=20
> >>> highlighted
> >>> text else where in the program.  I've had it for months=20
> and never an
> >>> infection once ever.
> >>>
> >>> Sincerely Yours,
> >>>
> >>> The Constantly BAREFOOTED
> >>> Ray
> >>>
> >>> Home Phone And Fax:  (985)853-0139
> >>> E-mail and Windows Messenger:
> >>> rforetjr@xxxxxxxxx
> >>>
> >>> God Bless President George W Bush
> >>> God Bless America
> >>> And God Bless Our Troops
> >>>
> >>> ----- Original Message -----=20
> >>> From: "Linksma Mezgeja" <love2knit@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>> To: "jfw" <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>> Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 7:19 AM
> >>> Subject: AVG Anti Virus
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Hi!  Does anybody use AVG as their anti virus? If so, how=20
> accessible is
> >>> it
> >>> for the new version of JAWS which I hope to install from=20
> disc, after it
> >>> arrives?
> >>> If you have used Norton and changed over to AVG, which do=20
> you prefer
> >>> strictly as an anti virus?
> >>> Thanks.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --
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> >>> To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to
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> >>> the
> >>> way the list is being run, do not post them to the list.=20
> Rather contact
> >>> the
> >>> list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --=20
> >>> No virus found in this incoming message.
> >>> Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.
> >>> Version: 7.0.298 / Virus Database: 265.6.6 - Release=20
> Date: 12/28/2004
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --=20
> >>> No virus found in this outgoing message.
> >>> Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.
> >>> Version: 7.0.298 / Virus Database: 265.6.6 - Release=20
> Date: 12/28/2004
> >>>
> >>> --
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> >>> To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to
> >>> jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in=20
> the subject line.
> >>> Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
> >>>
> >>> If you have any concerns about the list, post received=20
> from the list, or
> >>> the
> >>> way the list is being run, do not post them to the list.=20
> Rather contact
> >>> the
> >>> list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --=20
> >>> No virus found in this incoming message.
> >>> Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.
> >>> Version: 7.0.298 / Virus Database: 265.6.6 - Release=20
> Date: 12/28/2004
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --=20
> >>> No virus found in this outgoing message.
> >>> Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.
> >>> Version: 7.0.298 / Virus Database: 265.6.6 - Release=20
> Date: 12/28/2004
> >>>
> >>> --
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> >>> To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to
> >>> jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in=20
> the subject line.
> >>> Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
> >>>
> >>> If you have any concerns about the list, post received=20
> from the list, or
> >>> the way the list is being run, do not post them to the=20
> list. Rather
> >>> contact the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to
> >> jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the=20
> subject line.
> >> Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
> >>
> >> If you have any concerns about the list, post received=20
> from the list, or
> >> the way the list is being run, do not post them to the list. Rather
> >> contact the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > From: "chevelle" <chevelle33@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Subject: Re: AVG Anti Virus
> > Date: Thu, 30 Dec 2004 09:37:22 -0500
> >
> > What do you mean Jaws doesn't like Norton. I used the=20
> Norton Internet
> > Security 2004, and I could access everything. I did have to=20
> use the jaws
> > cursor, but I could still access everything.
> > ----- Original Message -----=20
> > From: "Joseph Machise" <josephmachise@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 7:37 AM
> > Subject: Re: AVG Anti Virus
> >
> >
> >> Hello joe with you.
> >>
> >> I had norton and I had a hell of a time with norton, and=20
> jaws doesn't=20
> >> like
> >> norton.
> >>
> >> The people @ freedomscientific are write. That jaws=20
> doesn't like Norton.
> >> Good luck from Joseph.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> "Why "do "bad "things "Happen "to "good "people!
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> !With love always from Joseph.
> >> ----- Original Message -----=20
> >> From: "John Miller" <n1umj@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 7:22 AM
> >> Subject: Re: AVG Anti Virus
> >>
> >>
> >>> you obviously weren't keeping Norton up to date then=20
> because I've never
> >> had
> >>> an infection with Norton and can honestly say, if you=20
> want to put your
> >> faith
> >>> in a product that's free where they can turn around and stop tech=20
> >>> support
> >>> any time they want, and in the antivirus world where you=20
> generally get
> >> what
> >>> you pay for, it's your choice but I'm staying with what I=20
> know works=20
> >>> with
> >>> jaws, and more importantly, what I know will keep my=20
> computer safe.
> >>> ----- Original Message -----=20
> >>> From: "Kerri" <ruby75@xxxxxxxxx>
> >>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>> Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 12:16 AM
> >>> Subject: Re: AVG Anti Virus
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> > Hello! I have also used AVG 6 andnow 7 and have never had any
> >>> > infection.
> >>> > however,with norton, I had about 3 or so serious infections.
> >>> > ----- Original Message -----=20
> >>> > From: "Ray Foret Jr." <rforetjr@xxxxxxxxx>
> >>> > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>> > Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 6:36 AM
> >>> > Subject: Re: AVG Anti Virus
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > I use AVG as my anti virus.  I use the free version. =20
> Version 7 is=20
> >>> > good
> >>> > with
> >>> > JAWS version 6.  Be aware that you'll have to set your=20
> JAWS up to read
> >> all
> >>> > text rather than just highlighted text when you go in=20
> to the program's
> >>> > control center.  If you like, you can set JAWS up so=20
> that it only=20
> >>> > reads
> >>> > all
> >>> > text while in the virus vault and the control center and just
> >> highlighted
> >>> > text else where in the program.  I've had it for months=20
> and never an
> >>> > infection once ever.
> >>> >
> >>> > Sincerely Yours,
> >>> >
> >>> > The Constantly BAREFOOTED
> >>> > Ray
> >>> >
> >>> > Home Phone And Fax:  (985)853-0139
> >>> > E-mail and Windows Messenger:
> >>> > rforetjr@xxxxxxxxx
> >>> >
> >>> > God Bless President George W Bush
> >>> > God Bless America
> >>> > And God Bless Our Troops
> >>> >
> >>> > ----- Original Message -----=20
> >>> > From: "Linksma Mezgeja" <love2knit@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>> > To: "jfw" <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>> > Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 7:19 AM
> >>> > Subject: AVG Anti Virus
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > Hi!  Does anybody use AVG as their anti virus? If so,=20
> how accessible=20
> >>> > is
> >> it
> >>> > for the new version of JAWS which I hope to install=20
> from disc, after=20
> >>> > it
> >>> > arrives?
> >>> > If you have used Norton and changed over to AVG, which=20
> do you prefer
> >>> > strictly as an anti virus?
> >>> > Thanks.
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > --
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> >>> >
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> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > --=20
> >>> > No virus found in this incoming message.
> >>> > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.
> >>> > Version: 7.0.298 / Virus Database: 265.6.6 - Release=20
> Date: 12/28/2004
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > --=20
> >>> > No virus found in this outgoing message.
> >>> > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.
> >>> > Version: 7.0.298 / Virus Database: 265.6.6 - Release=20
> Date: 12/28/2004
> >>> >
> >>> > --
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> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > --=20
> >>> > No virus found in this incoming message.
> >>> > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.
> >>> > Version: 7.0.298 / Virus Database: 265.6.6 - Release=20
> Date: 12/28/2004
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > --=20
> >>> > No virus found in this outgoing message.
> >>> > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.
> >>> > Version: 7.0.298 / Virus Database: 265.6.6 - Release=20
> Date: 12/28/2004
> >>> >
> >>> > --
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> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Date: Thu, 30 Dec 2004 08:44:04 -0600 (CST)
> > From: Bruce Toews <water_drinker@xxxxxxxx>
> > Subject: Re: AVG Anti Virus
> >
> > I can't comment on any of the anti-virus programs, because=20
> I've never in
> > my life been infected by one or been in danger of being=20
> infected by one,
> > including not having used any virus program at all until=20
> late 2002. I use
> > a Unix shell for my e-mail on top of which my ISP's e-mail=20
> service, when I
> > need it, includes anti-virus protection at no additional=20
> charge. And I
> > guess they block whatever ports other viruses generally=20
> float in on. So no
> > virus checker I've ever used has really been put to the test.
> >
> > Bruce
> >
> > --=20
> > Bruce Toews
> > E-mail and MSN/Windows Messenger: water_drinker@xxxxxxxx
> > Web Site (including info on my weekly commentaries):=20
> http://www.ogts.net
> > For the best oldies anywhere visit=20
> http://www.treasureislandoldies.com
> >
> > On Thu, 30 Dec 2004, chevelle wrote:
> >
> >> Hey John, agree with you totally. I used the live update, and the=20
> >> automatic
> >> update, and never a virus.
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "John Miller" <n1umj@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 7:22 AM
> >> Subject: Re: AVG Anti Virus
> >>
> >>
> >>> you obviously weren't keeping Norton up to date then=20
> because I've never
> >>> had
> >>> an infection with Norton and can honestly say, if you=20
> want to put your
> >>> faith
> >>> in a product that's free where they can turn around and stop tech=20
> >>> support
> >>> any time they want, and in the antivirus world where you=20
> generally get
> >>> what
> >>> you pay for, it's your choice but I'm staying with what I=20
> know works=20
> >>> with
> >>> jaws, and more importantly, what I know will keep my=20
> computer safe.
> >>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>> From: "Kerri" <ruby75@xxxxxxxxx>
> >>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>> Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 12:16 AM
> >>> Subject: Re: AVG Anti Virus
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> Hello! I have also used AVG 6 andnow 7 and have never had any=20
> >>>> infection.
> >>>> however,with norton, I had about 3 or so serious infections.
> >>>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>>> From: "Ray Foret Jr." <rforetjr@xxxxxxxxx>
> >>>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 6:36 AM
> >>>> Subject: Re: AVG Anti Virus
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> I use AVG as my anti virus.  I use the free version. =20
> Version 7 is good
> >>>> with
> >>>> JAWS version 6.  Be aware that you'll have to set your=20
> JAWS up to read
> >>>> all
> >>>> text rather than just highlighted text when you go in to=20
> the program's
> >>>> control center.  If you like, you can set JAWS up so=20
> that it only reads
> >>>> all
> >>>> text while in the virus vault and the control center and just=20
> >>>> highlighted
> >>>> text else where in the program.  I've had it for months=20
> and never an
> >>>> infection once ever.
> >>>>
> >>>> Sincerely Yours,
> >>>>
> >>>> The Constantly BAREFOOTED
> >>>> Ray
> >>>>
> >>>> Home Phone And Fax:  (985)853-0139
> >>>> E-mail and Windows Messenger:
> >>>> rforetjr@xxxxxxxxx
> >>>>
> >>>> God Bless President George W Bush
> >>>> God Bless America
> >>>> And God Bless Our Troops
> >>>>
> >>>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>>> From: "Linksma Mezgeja" <love2knit@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>>> To: "jfw" <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 7:19 AM
> >>>> Subject: AVG Anti Virus
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Hi!  Does anybody use AVG as their anti virus? If so,=20
> how accessible is
> >>>> it
> >>>> for the new version of JAWS which I hope to install from=20
> disc, after it
> >>>> arrives?
> >>>> If you have used Norton and changed over to AVG, which=20
> do you prefer
> >>>> strictly as an anti virus?
> >>>> Thanks.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>> To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to
> >>>> jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in=20
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> >>>>
> >>>> If you have any concerns about the list, post received=20
> from the list,=20
> >>>> or
> >>>> the
> >>>> way the list is being run, do not post them to the list.=20
> Rather contact
> >>>> the
> >>>> list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> No virus found in this incoming message.
> >>>> Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.
> >>>> Version: 7.0.298 / Virus Database: 265.6.6 - Release=20
> Date: 12/28/2004
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> No virus found in this outgoing message.
> >>>> Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.
> >>>> Version: 7.0.298 / Virus Database: 265.6.6 - Release=20
> Date: 12/28/2004
> >>>>
> >>>> --
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> Rather contact
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> >>>> list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> No virus found in this incoming message.
> >>>> Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.
> >>>> Version: 7.0.298 / Virus Database: 265.6.6 - Release=20
> Date: 12/28/2004
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> No virus found in this outgoing message.
> >>>> Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.
> >>>> Version: 7.0.298 / Virus Database: 265.6.6 - Release=20
> Date: 12/28/2004
> >>>>
> >>>> --
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> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --
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> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > From: "david poehlman" <david.poehlman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Subject: Re: sounds manager
> > Date: Thu, 30 Dec 2004 09:59:13 -0500
> >
> > then they should ask. this is getting off topic.  If you=20
> have a problem=20
> > with
> > something I post, I suggest you write me privately and=20
> perhaps we can
> > streighten it out.  I use correct terminology in my posts. =20
> If people need
> > more specificis, I am happy to furnish them but if people=20
> just want to=20
> > waste
> > time, I can do that too.
> >
> > Johnnie Apple Seed
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----=20
> > From: "chevelle" <chevelle33@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 9:02 AM
> > Subject: Re: sounds manager
> >
> >
> > YOu didn't tell them how to open the default manager. Maybe=20
> they dont know
> > how to do that.
> > ----- Original Message -----=20
> > From: "david poehlman" <david.poehlman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 8:44 PM
> > Subject: Re: sounds manager
> >
> >
> >>I told someone to open default configuration manager.
> >>
> >> Johnnie Apple Seed
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----=20
> >> From: "chevelle" <chevelle33@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 8:33 PM
> >> Subject: Re: sounds manager
> >>
> >>
> >> Look at your won post. You told someone to choose default.=20
> How! do! you!
> >> choose! the default!
> >> ----- Original Message -----=20
> >> From: "david poehlman" <david.poehlman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 8:22 PM
> >> Subject: Re: sounds manager
> >>
> >>
> >>> what default?
> >>>
> >>> Johnnie Apple Seed
> >>>
> >>> ----- Original Message -----=20
> >>> From: "chevelle" <chevelle33@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>> Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 8:19 PM
> >>> Subject: Re: sounds manager
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> That doesn't explain how you choose the default.
> >>> ----- Original Message -----=20
> >>> From: "david poehlman" <david.poehlman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>> Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 7:50 PM
> >>> Subject: Re: sounds manager
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> default is classic.
> >>>>
> >>>> Johnnie Apple Seed
> >>>>
> >>>> ----- Original Message -----=20
> >>>> From: "chevelle" <chevelle33@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 7:36 PM
> >>>> Subject: Re: sounds manager
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> How do you choose the default, and how do you get to the=20
> speech and
> >>>> sounds
> >>>> manager?
> >>>> ----- Original Message -----=20
> >>>> From: "david poehlman" <david.poehlman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 6:26 PM
> >>>> Subject: Re: sounds manager
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> speech and sounds manager is simple but there are a lot=20
> of choices to
> >>>>> make
> >>>>> or to choose from among.  You must look through it and=20
> figure out what
> >>>>> yu
> >>>>> want to do.  It is not hard to do any of it and you=20
> must also choose
> >>>>> the
> >>>>> app
> >>>>> you intend to work with.  Choose default if you wish by=20
> opening the
> >>>>> default
> >>>>> configuration manager and choosing speech and sounds manager and
> >>>>> opening
> >>>>> it
> >>>>> up, click edit scheme button and press space, the first=20
> tab is the
> >>>>> general
> >>>>> tab and you can leave the description the way it is,=20
> ctrl+tab to the
> >>>>> other
> >>>>> pages and look through the options and things you can=20
> ghance and=20
> >>>>> decide
> >>>>> what
> >>>>> to change.  If you want to change the way a slider sounds for=20
> >>>>> instance,
> >>>>> go
> >>>>> to the bottom of the list on the first page and then=20
> tab to the group
> >>>>> of
> >>>>> four radio buttons and select the one you want the=20
> bahavior for.  Play
> >>>>> sound
> >>>>> is at the bottom, and for that, you must choose a wav=20
> file with the
> >>>>> next
> >>>>> button in tab order.  Once yu are done with the=20
> settings, click ok and
> >>>>> ok
> >>>>> again if need be, close and save.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Johnnie Apple Seed
> >>>>>
> >>>>> ----- Original Message -----=20
> >>>>> From: <ptusing@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>>>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 5:40 PM
> >>>>> Subject: sounds manager
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Hi,
> >>>>> Could some one for the sake of argument go through like=20
>  the  steps in
> >>>>> order
> >>>>> for setting the sounds  manager to put a sound on to let's say
> >>>>> something useful.
> >>>>> Thanks.
> >>>>> I was looking for this info as in sounds manager  in=20
> the JAWS  6 help
> >>>>> topics.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> --
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> from the list,
> >>>>> or
> >>>>> the
> >>>>> way the list is being run, do not post them to the list. Rather=20
> >>>>> contact
> >>>>> the
> >>>>> list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>>>
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> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > From: "david poehlman" <david.poehlman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Subject: Re: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re:=20
> Bug Fixes in=20
> > JAWS 6
> > Date: Thu, 30 Dec 2004 10:11:16 -0500
> >
> > matt,
> >
> > If you go to control panel, open system and read with the=20
> jaws cursor or
> > ins+b, you are told in plain english what system you have. =20
> I'm not sure
> > what you are running to get the result you have below, but=20
> thought this
> > might help.
> >
> > Johnnie Apple Seed
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----=20
> > From: "Horspool, Matthew F." <drjaws@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 3:26 AM
> > Subject: RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re:=20
> Bug Fixes in
> > JAWS 6.0
> >
> >
> > OK, I thought I got it right, but when I interrogated the=20
> system this
> > line came up:
> > Processor: x86 Family 15 Model 2 Stepping 7 GenuineIntel ~2532 MhZ
> >
> > If I interpreted this line correctly I have a 2532MhZ processor!
> >
> > -------------------------
> > Mr. Matthew F. Horspool
> >
> > Send me an Electronic Mail to
> > drjaws@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >
> > Add
> > horspool@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > to your MSN contact list
> >
> > Or Visit my web site at
> > http://www.horspool.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk
> > -------------------------
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> > Behalf Of Chip Orange
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 5:13 PM
> > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re:=20
> Bug Fixes in
> > JAWS 6.0
> >
> >
> > If you got that right (and it's not a typo) and your=20
> processor speed was
> > only 256 mhz, then I could see why switching to a hardware=20
> synthesizer
> > had such an improvement for you.  That was quite a load for=20
> your system.
> >
> > Chip
> >
> > =3D20
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D20 =20
> [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> >>On Behalf Of Horspool, Matthew F.
> >> Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 12:05 PM
> >> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> Subject: RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re:=3D20  =
Bug
> >>Fixes in JAWS 6.0 =3D20
> >> Well I had 512MB RAM and about 256MHZ Processors.  Running at=3D20
> >> once I had a copy of WinAmp with the Audio stocker and=3D20
> >> SHOUTcast plugin, Microsoft Outlook, SHOUTcast DNAS (GUI),=3D20
> >> BVentrilo and the Ventrilo Server, and a copy of JFW.  This=3D20
> >> slowed down the system quite a bit.
> >>=3D20
> >> -------------------------
> >> Mr. Matthew F. Horspool
> >> =3D20
> >> Send me an Electronic Mail to
> >> drjaws@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> =3D20
> >> Add
> >> horspool@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> to your MSN contact list
> >> =3D20
> >> Or Visit my web site at
> >> http://www.horspool.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk
> >> -------------------------
> >>=3D20
> >>=3D20
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D20
> >> [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Chip Orange
> >> Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 4:38 PM
> >> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> Subject: RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re:=3D20
> >> Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0
> >>=3D20
> >>=3D20
> >> Ok,  this is the first opinion which strongly prefers one to=3D20
> >> another for other than subjective reasons, and I appreciate it.
> >>=3D20
> >> Would you say the system you were using when you made the=3D20
> >> switch was unusually slow, short of ram, or overloaded with=3D20
> >> processing tasks?
> >>=3D20
> >> Thanks.
> >>=3D20
> >> Chip
> >>=3D20
> >> =3D3D20
> >>=3D20
> >> > -----Original Message-----
> >> > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D3D20 =3D20
> >> [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]=3D20
> >> >On Behalf Of Horspool, Matthew F.
> >> > Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 11:30 AM
> >> > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > Subject: RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was -=20
> Re:=3D3D20  =3D
> > Bug=3D20
> >> >Fixes in JAWS 6.0 =3D3D20  Used DECtalk ACCESS32 for about a=3D20
> >> year and then=3D20
> >> >switched to a=3D3D20  DECtalk USB for to get better broadcast=3D20
> >> clarity.  I=3D20
> >> >certainly=3D3D20  have noticed a huge difference in=20
> responsiveness:  =3D
> > The=3D20
> >> >DEC=3D3D20  USB is faster - a lot faster!
> >> >=3D3D20
> >> > -------------------------
> >> > Mr. Matthew F. Horspool
> >> > =3D3D20
> >> > Send me an Electronic Mail to
> >> > drjaws@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > =3D3D20
> >> > Add
> >> > horspool@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > to your MSN contact list
> >> > =3D3D20
> >> > Or Visit my web site at  http://www.horspool.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk
> >> > -------------------------
> >> >=3D3D20
> >> >=3D3D20
> >> > -----Original Message-----
> >> > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D3D20
> >> > [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of John Miller
> >> > Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 4:20 PM
> >> > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > Subject: Re: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was -=20
> Re:=3D3D20  =3D
> > Bug=3D20
> >> >Fixes in JAWS 6.0 =3D3D20 =3D3D20  I don't notice it if so.
> >> > ----- Original Message -----
> >> > From: "Chip Orange" <Corange@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 10:47 AM
> >> > Subject: RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was -=20
> Re:=3D3D20  =3D
> > Bug=3D20
> >> >Fixes in =3D3D20  JAWS 6.0 =3D3D20 =3D3D20
> >> > > Yes; and they do use some processor time.  The=20
> question is that=3D20
> >
> >> > > on=3D3D20 todays systems, which usually have plenty of =3D
> > processor=3D3D20
> >> > speed and RAM,=3D3D20
> >> > > does that really make any difference?
> >> > >
> >> > > Now, I know that it does from reports on AT&T Natural
> >> > > Voices=3D3D20=3D20 specifically, but I was wondering about=20
> Eloquence.
> >> > >
> >> > > Thanks.
> >> > >
> >> > > Chip
> >> > >
> >> > > =3D3D3D20
> >> > >
> >> > >> -----Original Message-----
> >> > >> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D3D3D20 =3D3D20
> >> > [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]=3D3D20
> >> > >>On Behalf Of Flor Lynch
> >> > >> Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2004 9:00 PM
> >> > >> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > >> Subject: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re:=3D3D20
> >> > Bug=3D3D3D20  Fixes
> >> >=3D3D20
> >> > >>in JAWS 6.0 =3D3D3D20
> >> > >> Software synths take up more RAM than hardware ones do.
> >> > >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> > >> From: "Chip Orange" <Corange@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > >> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > >> Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2004 2:22 PM
> >> > >> Subject: RE: Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0
> >> > >>=3D3D3D20
> >> > >>=3D3D3D20
> >> > >> Well, no argument with your first point, it is more=3D3D20
> >> > difficult to have =3D3D20
> >> > >>all of the sound coming out of one source; but, when you=3D3D20
> >> > need to use =3D3D20
> >> > >>headphones so as not to disturb someone else, it's also =3D
> > more=3D3D3D20=3D20
> >> > >>=3D3D20 convenient. =3D3D3D20  As for your second, that =
just=3D20
> >> seems to come=3D20
> >> > >>down to personal=3D3D3D20
> >> =3D3D20
> >> > >>preference  as it doesn't bother me a bit.
> >> > >>=3D3D3D20
> >> > >> There is one which you didn't mention, but which I've=3D3D20
> >> > always wondered =3D3D20
> >> > >>about, and that's how much of a load does Eloquence =
place=3D3D20
> >> > on=3D3D3D20  your=3D3D20
> >> > >>system  by having the software synth as compared to=20
> sending=3D3D20
> >> > the text=3D3D20
> >> > >>to be  spoken out of the serial port?  Anyone have any =
facts=3D20
> >> > >>along=3D3D20 this
> >> > line?
> >> > >>=3D3D3D20
> >> > >> Thanks.
> >> > >>=3D3D3D20
> >> > >> Chip
> >> > >>=3D3D3D20
> >> > >> =3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >>=3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > -----Original Message-----
> >> > >> > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D3D3D3D20=3D3D20
> >> > >> >[mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Kerri
> >> > >> > Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2004 2:04 AM
> >> > >> > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > >> > Subject: Re: Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0 =3D3D3D3D20  Hello=20
>  Chip. I=3D20
> >
> >> > >> >despise software synthesizers mainly=3D3D20
> >> > because=3D3D3D3D20 if=3D3D20
> >> > >> >you are required to listen to other media, I find it=3D20
> >> to=3D3D3D3D20=3D3D20=3D20
> >> > >> >difficult to with a software synthesizer coming through=3D20
> >> the=3D3D3D3D20
> >>=3D20
> >> > >> >=3D3D
> >>=3D20
> >> > >> >same speakers. I also dislike elloquence's voice,=20
> *all of them*
> >> > >> > ----- Original Message -----
> >> > >> > From: "Chip Orange" <Corange@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > >> > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > >> > Sent: Monday, December 27, 2004 12:02 PM
> >> > >> > Subject: RE: Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0 =3D3D3D3D20=20
> =3D3D3D3D20  I'm=3D20
> >> > >> >interested in hearing why, as I use a DT express at=3D3D20
> >> > work,=3D3D3D3D20
> >> >=3D3D20
> >> > >> >and eloquence at home, and really haven't felt there's=3D20
> >> much=3D3D3D3D20
> >>=3D20
> >> > >> >=3D3D
> >>=3D20
> >> > >> >difference.  Perhaps there's just something I'm=3D20
> >> missing? =3D3D3D3D20 =3D20
> >> > >> >Thanks.
> >> > >> >=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > Chip
> >> > >> >=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > =3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> >=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > > -----Original Message-----
> >> > >> > > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D3D3D3D3D20=3D3D20
> >> > >> > >[mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Kerri
> >> > >> > > Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2004 12:17 AM
> >> > >> > > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > >> > > Subject: Re: Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0 =3D3D3D3D3D20 =20
> Chris, I=3D3D20
> >> > vehemently=3D3D20
> >> > >> > >despise software synthesizers hence=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > my=3D3D3D3D3D20  dectalk=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > >use and this is the only version that has been =3D3D
> >> rather=3D3D3D3D3D20=3D3D3D20
> >> > >>  sluggish.
> >> > >> > > ----- Original Message -----
> >> > >> > > From: "Chris Skarstad" <toonhead5@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > >> > > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > >> > > Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2004 4:15 PM
> >> > >> > > Subject: Re: Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0 =3D3D3D3D3D20=20
> =3D3D3D3D3D20 =3D
> > =3D3D20
> >> > man I guess=3D3D20
> >> > >> > >I'm very lucky then. This version actually runs =3D3D3D
> >> > > a=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> =3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > >little faster on my system than 5.10 did. Then =
again=3D3D3D20
> >> > >> I'm=3D3D3D3D3D20  using
> >> > >> =3D3D3D3D
> >> > >> a=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > >hardware synthesizer which is probably the=3D20
> >> reason.=3D3D3D3D3D20  =3D3D3D
> >> > > Never=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > did like=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > >software speech and never will based on =
what=3D3D3D3D3D20=3D20
> >>  I've=3D3D3D20
> >> > >> seen.  By the
> >> > >> =3D3D3D3D
> >> > >>=3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > >way, the murge feature is there. go to=3D3D3D3D3D20  =
your=3D20
> >> jaws=3D3D3D20
> >> > >> window with =3D3D3D3D
> >> > >> alt=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > >plus j, press alt u for utilities,=3D3D3D3D3D20  and it's =
=3D
> > in=3D3D3D20
> >> > >> there. or simply
> >> > >> =3D3D3D3D
> >> > >>=3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > >bring up the context menu if=3D3D3D3D3D20  you're =
running=3D20
> >> jaws in =3D3D
> >> =3D3D3D
> >> > > the=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > system tray=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > >and go to utilities=3D3D3D3D3D20  and the murge =
utility=3D20
> >> is there.=3D3D20
> >>=3D20
> >> > >> > >=3D3D3D3D3D20  At 04:29 PM 12/21/2004, you wrote:
> >> > >> > > >Hay, you mean, they haven't fixed any right? I'm=3D3D20
> >> > sorry, I=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > > just couldn't=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > > >resist. In truth, this has been the worst version =3D
> > I've=3D3D3D20
> >> > >> had the=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> =3D3D3D3D
> >> > >>=3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > > >misfortune to deal with in a long while. It runs=3D3D3D20
> >> > >> terribley slow,=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > > >I'm=3D3D3D3D3D20 getting false attachments, no merge=3D20
> >> feature=3D3D3D20
> >> > >> anywhere. I=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > > >love=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > > spending=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > > >money on this "improved" product. Sorry, I'm=20
> being a grinch.
> >> > >> > > >----- Original Message -----
> >> > >> > > >From: "RJ" <rjf1@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > >> > > >To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > >> > > >Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2004 2:16 PM
> >> > >> > > >Subject: Re: Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0
> >> > >> > > >
> >> > >> > > >
> >> > >> > > >You are looking right, there just isn't any bugs.=3D3D20
> >> > Smiling here.
> >> > >> > > >----- Original Message -----
> >> > >> > > >From: "Margaret Thomas" <iluvtoread@xxxxxxx>
> >> > >> > > >To: "jfw" <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > >> > > >Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2004 4:15 PM
> >> > >> > > >Subject: Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0
> >> > >> > > >
> >> > >> > > >
> >> > >> > > > > Good Afternoon,
> >> > >> > > > >
> >> > >> > > > >     I had a migraine when JAWS 6.0 was released =3D
> > and=3D3D3D20
> >> > >> am trying=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > > > > to=3D3D3D3D3D20 catch up with list mail before=3D3D20
> >> > installing the new =3D3D3D
> >> > > =3D3D3D3D
> >> > >> release.
> >> > >> > > > >
> >> > >> > > > >     I've looked over the What's New section for
> >> > >> > > > > 6.0=3D3D20=3D20 and=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > > could swear=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > > > > that there used to be a section on bug fixes,=20
> but I'm =3D
> > =3D3D3D
> >> > > not=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > > finding it=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > > > > for this version.  Am I having another senior=20
> moment, =3D
> > =3D3D3D
> >> > > or=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > > did FS not=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > > > > do it this time, or am I looking in the wrong=3D3D20
> >> > place on=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > > the FS site? =3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > > > > I've been looking at:
> >> > >> > > > >
> >> > >> > > > >
> >> > >> > >=3D20
> >> >http://www.freedomscientific.com/fs_products/software_jaws60f
> >> > >> > > ea.asp#JAW
> >> > >> > > >S_Features
> >> > >> > > > >
> >> > >> > > > >     Thanks,
> >> > >> > > > > Margaret
> >> > >> > > > > iluvtoread@xxxxxxx
> >> > >> > > > >
> >> > >> > > > > --
> >> > >> > > > > To post a message to the list, send it to=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To=3D3D3D3D3D20=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > > > > unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to
> >> > >> > > >jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe
> >> > >> > > >in=3D3D20=3D20 the=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > > subject line.
> >> > >> > > > > Archives located at:=3D20
> >> //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
> >> > >> > > > >
> >> > >> > > > > If you have any concerns about the list, post =3D3D
> >> received=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > from the=3D3D3D3D3D20=3D3D3D3D20
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> >> > >> > > >the way the list is being run, do not post them to
> >> > >> > > >the=3D3D20=3D20 list.=3D3D3D3D20 Rather=3D3D3D3D3D20 =
contact the
> >> > >> > > >list owner =3D
> > at=3D3D20=3D20
> >> > >> > > >jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > >> > > > >
> >> > >> > > >
> >> > >> > > >--
> >> > >> > > >To post a message to the list, send it to=3D3D3D20
> >> > >> jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> =3D3D3D3D
> >> > >>=3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > > >unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a=20
> message=3D3D20=3D20
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with=3D20
> >> the word=3D3D20=3D20
> >> > >> > > >unsubscribe in the=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > > subject line.
> >> > >> > > >Archives located at:=20
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> received =3D3D3D
> >> > > from=3D3D3D3D3D20
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> >> > >> > > >or the way the list is being run, do not post=20
> them to=3D3D20
> >> > the=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > > list. Rather=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > > >contact the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > >> > > >
> >> > >> > > >
> >> > >> > > >--
> >> > >> > > >No virus found in this incoming message.
> >> > >> > > >Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.
> >> > >> > > >Version: 7.0.296 / Virus Database: 265.6.3 - =
Release=3D3D20
> >> > Date:=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > 12/21/2004
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> >> > >> > > >
> >> > >> > > >
> >> > >> > > >--
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> >> > >> > > >Version: 7.0.296 / Virus Database: 265.6.3 - =
Release=3D3D20
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> >> > >> > 12/21/2004
> >> > >> > > >
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> >> > >> jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> =3D3D3D3D
> >> > >>=3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > > >unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a=20
> message=3D3D20=3D20
> >> > >> > > >to=3D3D3D3D3D20=3D3D3D3D20 jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx =
with=3D20
> >> the word=3D3D20=3D20
> >> > >> > > >unsubscribe in the=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > > subject line.
> >> > >> > > >Archives located at:=20
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> >> > >> > > >If you have any concerns about the list, post=20
> received =3D3D3D
> >> > > from=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > > the list,=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > > >or the way the list is being run, do not post=20
> them to=3D3D20
> >> > the=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > > list. Rather=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > > >contact the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > >> > >=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > > --
> >> > >> > > To post a message to the list, send it to=3D3D3D20
> >> > >> jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D3D3D3D3D20  To
> >> > >> =3D3D3D3D
> >> > >>=3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > >unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message=3D3D20
> >> > to=3D3D3D3D3D20 =3D3D3D3D20
> >> >=3D3D20
> >> > >> > >jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe =3D
> > in=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > the=3D3D3D3D3D20  subject=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > >line.
> >> > >> > > Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
> >> > >> > >=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > > If you have any concerns about the list, post=20
> received=3D3D3D20
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> >> Date:=3D3D3D3D20
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> --=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >
> >> > >> > >=3D
> > No=3D20
> >> > >> > >virus=3D3D20
> >> > found in this
> >> >=3D3D20
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> >> > > outgoing =3D3D3D3D
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> the list, or=20
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> Rather contact=20
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> > list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > From: "david poehlman" <david.poehlman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Subject: Re: Windows Up Date settings with JFW
> > Date: Thu, 30 Dec 2004 10:13:45 -0500
> >
> > this is automatic updates and no matter which version of=20
> jaws you are=20
> > using,
> > you will find automatic updates in controll panel. =20
> Activating this item
> > brings up a dialog providing choices for settings.
> >
> > Johnnie Apple Seed
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----=20
> > From: "AB7HW Dick Lee Chrisman" <ab7hw@xxxxxxx>
> > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 11:27 PM
> > Subject: Windows Up Date settings with JFW
> >
> >
> > Hello All
> > Using JFW 5.00.844 how do I find the Windows XP up date=20
> settings?  I want=20
> > to
> > make sure the Windows XP up date is set to manual.
> > I look forward to your information.
> > Dick
> >
> >
> > --
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> > To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to
> > jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the=20
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> > Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
> >
> > If you have any concerns about the list, post received from=20
> the list, or=20
> > the
> > way the list is being run, do not post them to the list.=20
> Rather contact=20
> > the
> > list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > From: "Horspool, Matthew F." <drjaws@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Subject: RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re:=20
> Bug Fixes in=20
> > JAWS 6
> > Date: Thu, 30 Dec 2004 15:13:48 -0000
> >
> > Right.  I used the System Information tool and saved in plain text.
> >
> > -------------------------
> > Mr. Matthew F. Horspool
> >
> > Send me an Electronic Mail to
> > drjaws@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >
> > Add
> > horspool@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > to your MSN contact list
> >
> > Or Visit my web site at
> > http://www.horspool.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk
> > -------------------------
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> > Behalf Of david poehlman
> > Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 3:11 PM
> > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: Re: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re:=20
> Bug Fixes in
> > JAWS 6.0
> >
> >
> > matt,
> >
> > If you go to control panel, open system and read with the=20
> jaws cursor or
> >
> > ins+b, you are told in plain english what system you have. =20
> I'm not sure
> > what you are running to get the result you have below, but=20
> thought this
> > might help.
> >
> > Johnnie Apple Seed
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----=20
> > From: "Horspool, Matthew F." <drjaws@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 3:26 AM
> > Subject: RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re:=20
> Bug Fixes in
> >
> > JAWS 6.0
> >
> >
> > OK, I thought I got it right, but when I interrogated the=20
> system this
> > line came up:
> > Processor: x86 Family 15 Model 2 Stepping 7 GenuineIntel ~2532 MhZ
> >
> > If I interpreted this line correctly I have a 2532MhZ processor!
> >
> > -------------------------
> > Mr. Matthew F. Horspool
> >
> > Send me an Electronic Mail to
> > drjaws@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >
> > Add
> > horspool@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > to your MSN contact list
> >
> > Or Visit my web site at http://www.horspool.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk
> > -------------------------
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> > Behalf Of Chip Orange
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 5:13 PM
> > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re:=20
> Bug Fixes in
> > JAWS 6.0
> >
> >
> > If you got that right (and it's not a typo) and your=20
> processor speed was
> > only 256 mhz, then I could see why switching to a hardware=20
> synthesizer
> > had such an improvement for you.  That was quite a load for=20
> your system.
> >
> > Chip
> >
> > =3D20
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D20 =20
> [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> >>On Behalf Of Horspool, Matthew F.
> >> Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 12:05 PM
> >> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> Subject: RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re:=3D20  =
Bug
> >>Fixes in JAWS 6.0 =3D20  Well I had 512MB RAM and about 256MHZ
> >>Processors.  Running at=3D20  once I had a copy of WinAmp=20
> with the Audio
> >>stocker and=3D20  SHOUTcast plugin, Microsoft Outlook, SHOUTcast =
DNAS
> >>(GUI),=3D20  BVentrilo and the Ventrilo Server, and a copy of JFW.
> >>This=3D20  slowed down the system quite a bit.
> >>=3D20
> >> -------------------------
> >> Mr. Matthew F. Horspool
> >> =3D20
> >> Send me an Electronic Mail to
> >> drjaws@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> =3D20
> >> Add
> >> horspool@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> to your MSN contact list
> >> =3D20
> >> Or Visit my web site at
> >> http://www.horspool.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk
> >> -------------------------
> >>=3D20
> >>=3D20
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D20
> >> [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Chip Orange
> >> Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 4:38 PM
> >> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> Subject: RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re:=3D20
> >> Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0
> >>=3D20
> >>=3D20
> >> Ok,  this is the first opinion which strongly prefers one to=3D20
> >> another for other than subjective reasons, and I appreciate it.
> >>=3D20
> >> Would you say the system you were using when you made the=3D20
> >> switch was unusually slow, short of ram, or overloaded with=3D20
> >> processing tasks?
> >>=3D20
> >> Thanks.
> >>=3D20
> >> Chip
> >>=3D20
> >> =3D3D20
> >>=3D20
> >> > -----Original Message-----
> >> > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D3D20 =3D20
> >> [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]=3D20
> >> >On Behalf Of Horspool, Matthew F.
> >> > Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 11:30 AM
> >> > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > Subject: RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was -=20
> Re:=3D3D20  =3D
> > Bug=3D20
> >> >Fixes in JAWS 6.0 =3D3D20  Used DECtalk ACCESS32 for about a=3D20
> >> year and then=3D20
> >> >switched to a=3D3D20  DECtalk USB for to get better broadcast=3D20
> >> clarity.  I=3D20
> >> >certainly=3D3D20  have noticed a huge difference in=20
> responsiveness:  =3D
> > The=3D20
> >> >DEC=3D3D20  USB is faster - a lot faster!
> >> >=3D3D20
> >> > -------------------------
> >> > Mr. Matthew F. Horspool
> >> > =3D3D20
> >> > Send me an Electronic Mail to
> >> > drjaws@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > =3D3D20
> >> > Add
> >> > horspool@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > to your MSN contact list
> >> > =3D3D20
> >> > Or Visit my web site at  http://www.horspool.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk
> >> > -------------------------
> >> >=3D3D20
> >> >=3D3D20
> >> > -----Original Message-----
> >> > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D3D20
> >> >[mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of John Miller
> >> > Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 4:20 PM
> >> > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > Subject: Re: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was -=20
> Re:=3D3D20  =3D
> > Bug=3D20
> >> >Fixes in JAWS 6.0 =3D3D20 =3D3D20  I don't notice it if so.
> >> > ----- Original Message -----
> >> > From: "Chip Orange" <Corange@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 10:47 AM
> >> > Subject: RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was -=20
> Re:=3D3D20  =3D
> > Bug=3D20
> >> >Fixes in =3D3D20  JAWS 6.0 =3D3D20 =3D3D20
> >> > > Yes; and they do use some processor time.  The=20
> question is that=3D20
> >
> >> > > on=3D3D20 todays systems, which usually have plenty of =3D
> > processor=3D3D20
> >> > speed and RAM,=3D3D20
> >> > > does that really make any difference?
> >> > >
> >> > > Now, I know that it does from reports on AT&T Natural
> >> > > Voices=3D3D20=3D20 specifically, but I was wondering about=20
> Eloquence.
> >> > >
> >> > > Thanks.
> >> > >
> >> > > Chip
> >> > >
> >> > > =3D3D3D20
> >> > >
> >> > >> -----Original Message-----
> >> > >> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D3D3D20 =3D3D20
> >> > [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]=3D3D20
> >> > >>On Behalf Of Flor Lynch
> >> > >> Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2004 9:00 PM
> >> > >> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > >> Subject: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re:=3D3D20
> >> > Bug=3D3D3D20  Fixes
> >> >=3D3D20
> >> > >>in JAWS 6.0 =3D3D3D20
> >> > >> Software synths take up more RAM than hardware ones do.
> >> > >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> > >> From: "Chip Orange" <Corange@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > >> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > >> Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2004 2:22 PM
> >> > >> Subject: RE: Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0
> >> > >>=3D3D3D20
> >> > >>=3D3D3D20
> >> > >> Well, no argument with your first point, it is more=3D3D20
> >> > difficult to have =3D3D20
> >> > >>all of the sound coming out of one source; but, when you=3D3D20
> >> > need to use =3D3D20
> >> > >>headphones so as not to disturb someone else, it's also =3D
> > more=3D3D3D20=3D20
> >> > >>=3D3D20 convenient. =3D3D3D20  As for your second, that =
just=3D20
> >> seems to come=3D20
> >> > >>down to personal=3D3D3D20
> >> =3D3D20
> >> > >>preference  as it doesn't bother me a bit.
> >> > >>=3D3D3D20
> >> > >> There is one which you didn't mention, but which I've=3D3D20
> >> > always wondered =3D3D20
> >> > >>about, and that's how much of a load does Eloquence =
place=3D3D20
> >> > on=3D3D3D20  your=3D3D20
> >> > >>system  by having the software synth as compared to=20
> sending=3D3D20
> >> > the text=3D3D20
> >> > >>to be  spoken out of the serial port?  Anyone have any =
facts=3D20
> >> > >>along=3D3D20 this
> >> > line?
> >> > >>=3D3D3D20
> >> > >> Thanks.
> >> > >>=3D3D3D20
> >> > >> Chip
> >> > >>=3D3D3D20
> >> > >> =3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >>=3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > -----Original Message-----
> >> > >> > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D3D3D3D20=3D3D20
> >> > >> >[mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Kerri
> >> > >> > Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2004 2:04 AM
> >> > >> > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > >> > Subject: Re: Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0 =3D3D3D3D20  Hello=20
>  Chip. I=3D20
> >
> >> > >> >despise software synthesizers mainly=3D3D20
> >> > because=3D3D3D3D20 if=3D3D20
> >> > >> >you are required to listen to other media, I find it=3D20
> >> to=3D3D3D3D20=3D3D20=3D20
> >> > >> >difficult to with a software synthesizer coming through=3D20
> >> the=3D3D3D3D20
> >>=3D20
> >> > >> >=3D3D
> >>=3D20
> >> > >> >same speakers. I also dislike elloquence's voice,=20
> *all of them*
> >> > >> > ----- Original Message -----
> >> > >> > From: "Chip Orange" <Corange@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > >> > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > >> > Sent: Monday, December 27, 2004 12:02 PM
> >> > >> > Subject: RE: Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0 =3D3D3D3D20=20
> =3D3D3D3D20  I'm=3D20
> >> > >> >interested in hearing why, as I use a DT express at=3D3D20
> >> > work,=3D3D3D3D20
> >> >=3D3D20
> >> > >> >and eloquence at home, and really haven't felt there's=3D20
> >> much=3D3D3D3D20
> >>=3D20
> >> > >> >=3D3D
> >>=3D20
> >> > >> >difference.  Perhaps there's just something I'm=3D20
> >> missing? =3D3D3D3D20 =3D20
> >> > >> >Thanks.
> >> > >> >=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > Chip
> >> > >> >=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > =3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> >=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > > -----Original Message-----
> >> > >> > > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D3D3D3D3D20=3D3D20
> >> > >> > >[mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Kerri
> >> > >> > > Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2004 12:17 AM
> >> > >> > > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > >> > > Subject: Re: Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0 =3D3D3D3D3D20 =20
> Chris, I=3D3D20
> >> > vehemently=3D3D20
> >> > >> > >despise software synthesizers hence=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > my=3D3D3D3D3D20  dectalk=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > >use and this is the only version that has been =3D3D
> >> rather=3D3D3D3D3D20=3D3D3D20
> >> > >>  sluggish.
> >> > >> > > ----- Original Message -----
> >> > >> > > From: "Chris Skarstad" <toonhead5@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > >> > > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > >> > > Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2004 4:15 PM
> >> > >> > > Subject: Re: Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0 =3D3D3D3D3D20=20
> =3D3D3D3D3D20 =3D
> > =3D3D20
> >> > man I guess=3D3D20
> >> > >> > >I'm very lucky then. This version actually runs =3D3D3D
> >> > > a=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> =3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > >little faster on my system than 5.10 did. Then =
again=3D3D3D20
> >> > >> I'm=3D3D3D3D3D20  using
> >> > >> =3D3D3D3D
> >> > >> a=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > >hardware synthesizer which is probably the=3D20
> >> reason.=3D3D3D3D3D20  =3D3D3D
> >> > > Never=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > did like=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > >software speech and never will based on =
what=3D3D3D3D3D20=3D20
> >>  I've=3D3D3D20
> >> > >> seen.  By the
> >> > >> =3D3D3D3D
> >> > >>=3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > >way, the murge feature is there. go to=3D3D3D3D3D20  =
your=3D20
> >> jaws=3D3D3D20
> >> > >> window with =3D3D3D3D
> >> > >> alt=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > >plus j, press alt u for utilities,=3D3D3D3D3D20  and it's =
=3D
> > in=3D3D3D20
> >> > >> there. or simply
> >> > >> =3D3D3D3D
> >> > >>=3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > >bring up the context menu if=3D3D3D3D3D20  you're =
running=3D20
> >> jaws in =3D3D
> >> =3D3D3D
> >> > > the=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > system tray=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > >and go to utilities=3D3D3D3D3D20  and the murge =
utility=3D20
> >> is there.=3D3D20
> >>=3D20
> >> > >> > >=3D3D3D3D3D20  At 04:29 PM 12/21/2004, you wrote:
> >> > >> > > >Hay, you mean, they haven't fixed any right? I'm=3D3D20
> >> > sorry, I=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > > just couldn't=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > > >resist. In truth, this has been the worst version =3D
> > I've=3D3D3D20
> >> > >> had the=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> =3D3D3D3D
> >> > >>=3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > > >misfortune to deal with in a long while. It runs=3D3D3D20
> >> > >> terribley slow,=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > > >I'm=3D3D3D3D3D20 getting false attachments, no merge=3D20
> >> feature=3D3D3D20
> >> > >> anywhere. I=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > > >love=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > > spending=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > > >money on this "improved" product. Sorry, I'm=20
> being a grinch.
> >> > >> > > >----- Original Message -----
> >> > >> > > >From: "RJ" <rjf1@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > >> > > >To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > >> > > >Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2004 2:16 PM
> >> > >> > > >Subject: Re: Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0
> >> > >> > > >
> >> > >> > > >
> >> > >> > > >You are looking right, there just isn't any bugs.=3D3D20
> >> > Smiling here.
> >> > >> > > >----- Original Message -----
> >> > >> > > >From: "Margaret Thomas" <iluvtoread@xxxxxxx>
> >> > >> > > >To: "jfw" <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > >> > > >Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2004 4:15 PM
> >> > >> > > >Subject: Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0
> >> > >> > > >
> >> > >> > > >
> >> > >> > > > > Good Afternoon,
> >> > >> > > > >
> >> > >> > > > >     I had a migraine when JAWS 6.0 was released =3D
> > and=3D3D3D20
> >> > >> am trying=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > > > > to=3D3D3D3D3D20 catch up with list mail before=3D3D20
> >> > installing the new =3D3D3D
> >> > > =3D3D3D3D
> >> > >> release.
> >> > >> > > > >
> >> > >> > > > >     I've looked over the What's New section for
> >> > >> > > > > 6.0=3D3D20=3D20 and=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > > could swear=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > > > > that there used to be a section on bug fixes,=20
> but I'm =3D
> > =3D3D3D
> >> > > not=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > > finding it=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > > > > for this version.  Am I having another senior=20
> moment, =3D
> > =3D3D3D
> >> > > or=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > > did FS not=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > > > > do it this time, or am I looking in the wrong=3D3D20
> >> > place on=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > > the FS site? =3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > > > > I've been looking at:
> >> > >> > > > >
> >> > >> > > > >
> >> > >> > >=3D20
> >> >http://www.freedomscientific.com/fs_products/software_jaws60f
> >> > >> > > ea.asp#JAW
> >> > >> > > >S_Features
> >> > >> > > > >
> >> > >> > > > >     Thanks,
> >> > >> > > > > Margaret
> >> > >> > > > > iluvtoread@xxxxxxx
> >> > >> > > > >
> >> > >> > > > > --
> >> > >> > > > > To post a message to the list, send it to=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To=3D3D3D3D3D20=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > > > > unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to
> >> > >> > > >jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe
> >> > >> > > >in=3D3D20=3D20 the=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > > subject line.
> >> > >> > > > > Archives located at:=3D20
> >> //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
> >> > >> > > > >
> >> > >> > > > > If you have any concerns about the list, post =3D3D
> >> received=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > from the=3D3D3D3D3D20=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > > > > list, or
> >> > >> > > >the way the list is being run, do not post them to
> >> > >> > > >the=3D3D20=3D20 list.=3D3D3D3D20 Rather=3D3D3D3D3D20 =
contact the
> >> > >> > > >list owner =3D
> > at=3D3D20=3D20
> >> > >> > > >jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > >> > > > >
> >> > >> > > >
> >> > >> > > >--
> >> > >> > > >To post a message to the list, send it to=3D3D3D20
> >> > >> jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> =3D3D3D3D
> >> > >>=3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > > >unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a=20
> message=3D3D20=3D20
> >> > >> > > >to=3D3D3D3D3D20=3D3D3D3D20 jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx =
with=3D20
> >> the word=3D3D20=3D20
> >> > >> > > >unsubscribe in the=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > > subject line.
> >> > >> > > >Archives located at:=20
> //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
> >> > >> > > >
> >> > >> > > >If you have any concerns about the list, post=20
> received =3D3D3D
> >> > > from=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > > the list,=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > > >or the way the list is being run, do not post=20
> them to=3D3D20
> >> > the=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > > list. Rather=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > > >contact the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > >> > > >
> >> > >> > > >
> >> > >> > > >--
> >> > >> > > >No virus found in this incoming message.
> >> > >> > > >Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.
> >> > >> > > >Version: 7.0.296 / Virus Database: 265.6.3 - =
Release=3D3D20
> >> > Date:=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > 12/21/2004
> >> > >> > > >
> >> > >> > > >
> >> > >> > > >
> >> > >> > > >
> >> > >> > > >--
> >> > >> > > >No virus found in this outgoing message.
> >> > >> > > >Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.
> >> > >> > > >Version: 7.0.296 / Virus Database: 265.6.3 - =
Release=3D3D20
> >> > Date:=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > 12/21/2004
> >> > >> > > >
> >> > >> > > >--
> >> > >> > > >To post a message to the list, send it to=3D3D3D20
> >> > >> jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> =3D3D3D3D
> >> > >>=3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > > >unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a=20
> message=3D3D20=3D20
> >> > >> > > >to=3D3D3D3D3D20=3D3D3D3D20 jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx =
with=3D20
> >> the word=3D3D20=3D20
> >> > >> > > >unsubscribe in the=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > > subject line.
> >> > >> > > >Archives located at:=20
> //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
> >> > >> > > >
> >> > >> > > >If you have any concerns about the list, post=20
> received =3D3D3D
> >> > > from=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > > the list,=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > > >or the way the list is being run, do not post=20
> them to=3D3D20
> >> > the=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > > list. Rather=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > > >contact the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > >> > >=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > > --
> >> > >> > > To post a message to the list, send it to=3D3D3D20
> >> > >> jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D3D3D3D3D20  To
> >> > >> =3D3D3D3D
> >> > >>=3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > >unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message=3D3D20
> >> > to=3D3D3D3D3D20 =3D3D3D3D20
> >> >=3D3D20
> >> > >> > >jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe =3D
> > in=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > the=3D3D3D3D3D20  subject=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > >line.
> >> > >> > > Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
> >> > >> > >=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > > If you have any concerns about the list, post=20
> received=3D3D3D20
> >> > >> from=3D3D3D3D3D20  =3D3D3D3D
> >> > >> the=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > >list, or the way the list is being run, do not =
post=3D3D3D20
> >> > >> them=3D3D3D3D3D20  to the
> >> > >> =3D3D3D3D
> >> > >>=3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > >list. Rather contact the list owner at=3D3D3D3D3D20  =
=3D3D3D3D
> >> > >> jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > >> > >=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > >=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > > --
> >> > >> > > No virus found in this incoming message.
> >> > >> > > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.
> >> > >> > > Version: 7.0.296 / Virus Database: 265.6.3 - Release =3D3D
> >> Date:=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > 12/21/2004=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > >=3D3D3D3D3D20 =3D3D3D3D3D20 =3D3D3D3D3D20 =3D3D3D3D3D20 =20
> --=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >
> >> > >> > >=3D
> > No=3D20
> >> > >> > >virus=3D3D20
> >> > found in this
> >> >=3D3D20
> >> > >> > >=3D3D3D
> >> > > outgoing =3D3D3D3D
> >> > >> message.
> >> > >> > > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.
> >> > >> > > Version: 7.0.296 / Virus Database: 265.6.3 - Release =3D3D
> >> Date:=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > 12/21/2004=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > >=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > > --
> >> > >> > > To post a message to the list, send it to=3D20
> >> jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx  =3D3D
> >> =3D3D3D
> >> > > To=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > >unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message=3D3D20
> >> > to=3D3D3D3D3D20 =3D3D3D3D20
> >> >=3D3D20
> >> > >> > >jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe =3D
> > in=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > the=3D3D3D3D3D20  subject=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > >line.
> >> > >> > > Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
> >> > >> > >=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > > If you have any concerns about the list, post=20
> received=3D3D3D20
> >> > >> from=3D3D3D3D3D20  =3D3D3D3D
> >> > >> the=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > >list, or the way the list is being run, do not =
post=3D3D3D20
> >> > >> them=3D3D3D3D3D20  to the
> >> > >> =3D3D3D3D
> >> > >>=3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > >list. Rather contact the list owner at=3D3D3D3D3D20  =
=3D3D3D3D
> >> > >> jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > >> > >=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > --
> >> > >> > To post a message to the list, send it to=3D3D20
> >> > jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D3D3D3D20 To=3D3D20
> >> > >> >unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message =3D
> > to=3D3D3D3D20=3D3D20=3D20
> >> > >> >jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in=3D20
> >> > >> >the=3D3D3D3D20=3D3D20 subject line.  Archives located at:
> >> > >> >//www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
> >> > >> >=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > If you have any concerns about the list, post received =3D3D
> >> from=3D3D3D3D20=3D3D20
> >> > >> >the list, or the way the list is being run, do not =
post=3D3D20
> >> > them=3D3D3D3D20 to=3D3D20
> >> > >> >the list. Rather contact the list owner =
at=3D3D3D3D20=3D3D20=3D20
> >> > >> >jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx =3D3D3D3D20 =3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > --
> >> > >> > No virus found in this incoming message.
> >> > >> > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.
> >> > >> > Version: 7.0.298 / Virus Database: 265.6.5 - Release =3D
> > Date:=3D3D3D20
> >> > >> 12/26/2004
> >> > >> >=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> >=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> >=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> >=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> >=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > --=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > No virus found in this outgoing message.
> >> > >> > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.
> >> > >> > Version: 7.0.298 / Virus Database: 265.6.5 - Release =3D
> > Date:=3D3D3D20
> >> > >> 12/26/2004
> >> > >> >=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > --
> >> > >> > To post a message to the list, send it to=3D20
> >> jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To=3D3D20=3D20
> >> > >> >unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message =3D
> > to=3D3D3D3D20=3D3D20=3D20
> >> > >> >jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in=3D20
> >> > >> >the=3D3D3D3D20=3D3D20 subject line.  Archives located at:
> >> > >> >//www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
> >> > >> >=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > If you have any concerns about the list, post received =3D3D
> >> from=3D3D3D3D20=3D3D20
> >> > >> >the list, or the way the list is being run, do not =
post=3D3D20
> >> > them=3D3D3D3D20 to=3D3D20
> >> > >> >the list. Rather contact the list owner =
at=3D3D3D3D20=3D3D20=3D20
> >> > >> >jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx =3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> --
> >> > >> To post a message to the list, send it to=3D20
> >> jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx  To=3D3D20=3D20
> >> > >>unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message =
to=3D3D20=3D20
> >> > >>jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in=3D3D20
> >> > the=3D3D3D20  subject
> >> >=3D3D20
> >> > >>line.  Archives located at:=20
> //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
> >> > >>=3D3D3D20
> >> > >> If you have any concerns about the list, post received=3D3D20
> >> > from=3D3D3D20  the=3D3D20
> >> > >>list, or  the way the list is being run, do not post =
them=3D3D20
> >> > to the list.=3D3D20
> >> > >>Rather  contact the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx =3D
> > =3D3D3D20=3D20
> >> > >>=3D3D3D20
> >> > >> --
> >> > >> To post a message to the list, send it to=3D20
> >> jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx  To=3D3D20=3D20
> >> > >>unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message=20
> to=3D3D3D20 =3D3D20
> >
> >> > >>=3D
> >
> >> > >>jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in=3D3D20
> >> > the=3D3D3D20  subject=3D3D20
> >> > >>line.
> >> > >> Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
> >> > >>=3D3D3D20
> >> > >> If you have any concerns about the list, post received=3D3D20
> >> > from=3D3D3D20  the=3D3D20
> >> > >>list, or the way the list is being run, do not post=3D20
> >> them=3D3D3D20  to =3D3D
> >> the=3D3D20
> >> > >>list. Rather contact the list owner at=3D3D3D20  =3D3D
> >> jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > >>=3D3D3D20
> >> > > --
> >> > > To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx =3D
> > To=3D3D20=3D20
> >> > > unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message =
to=3D3D20=3D20
> >> > > jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the=3D20
> >> > > subject=3D3D20 line. Archives located at:
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> > ------------------------------
> >
> > From: "david poehlman" <david.poehlman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Subject: Re: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re:=20
> Bug Fixes in=20
> > JAWS 6
> > Date: Thu, 30 Dec 2004 10:22:43 -0500
> >
> > What do you get then when you look at system in controll panel?
> >
> > Johnnie Apple Seed
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----=20
> > From: "Horspool, Matthew F." <drjaws@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 10:13 AM
> > Subject: RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re:=20
> Bug Fixes in
> > JAWS 6.0
> >
> >
> > Right.  I used the System Information tool and saved in plain text.
> >
> > -------------------------
> > Mr. Matthew F. Horspool
> >
> > Send me an Electronic Mail to
> > drjaws@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >
> > Add
> > horspool@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > to your MSN contact list
> >
> > Or Visit my web site at
> > http://www.horspool.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk
> > -------------------------
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> > Behalf Of david poehlman
> > Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 3:11 PM
> > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: Re: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re:=20
> Bug Fixes in
> > JAWS 6.0
> >
> >
> > matt,
> >
> > If you go to control panel, open system and read with the=20
> jaws cursor or
> >
> > ins+b, you are told in plain english what system you have. =20
> I'm not sure
> > what you are running to get the result you have below, but=20
> thought this
> > might help.
> >
> > Johnnie Apple Seed
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----=20
> > From: "Horspool, Matthew F." <drjaws@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 3:26 AM
> > Subject: RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re:=20
> Bug Fixes in
> >
> > JAWS 6.0
> >
> >
> > OK, I thought I got it right, but when I interrogated the=20
> system this
> > line came up:
> > Processor: x86 Family 15 Model 2 Stepping 7 GenuineIntel ~2532 MhZ
> >
> > If I interpreted this line correctly I have a 2532MhZ processor!
> >
> > -------------------------
> > Mr. Matthew F. Horspool
> >
> > Send me an Electronic Mail to
> > drjaws@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >
> > Add
> > horspool@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > to your MSN contact list
> >
> > Or Visit my web site at http://www.horspool.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk
> > -------------------------
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> > Behalf Of Chip Orange
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 5:13 PM
> > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re:=20
> Bug Fixes in
> > JAWS 6.0
> >
> >
> > If you got that right (and it's not a typo) and your=20
> processor speed was
> > only 256 mhz, then I could see why switching to a hardware=20
> synthesizer
> > had such an improvement for you.  That was quite a load for=20
> your system.
> >
> > Chip
> >
> > =3D20
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D20 =20
> [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> >>On Behalf Of Horspool, Matthew F.
> >> Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 12:05 PM
> >> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> Subject: RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re:=3D20  =
Bug
> >>Fixes in JAWS 6.0 =3D20  Well I had 512MB RAM and about 256MHZ
> >>Processors.  Running at=3D20  once I had a copy of WinAmp=20
> with the Audio
> >>stocker and=3D20  SHOUTcast plugin, Microsoft Outlook, SHOUTcast =
DNAS
> >>(GUI),=3D20  BVentrilo and the Ventrilo Server, and a copy of JFW.
> >>This=3D20  slowed down the system quite a bit.
> >>=3D20
> >> -------------------------
> >> Mr. Matthew F. Horspool
> >> =3D20
> >> Send me an Electronic Mail to
> >> drjaws@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> =3D20
> >> Add
> >> horspool@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> to your MSN contact list
> >> =3D20
> >> Or Visit my web site at
> >> http://www.horspool.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk
> >> -------------------------
> >>=3D20
> >>=3D20
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D20
> >> [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Chip Orange
> >> Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 4:38 PM
> >> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> Subject: RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re:=3D20
> >> Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0
> >>=3D20
> >>=3D20
> >> Ok,  this is the first opinion which strongly prefers one to=3D20
> >> another for other than subjective reasons, and I appreciate it.
> >>=3D20
> >> Would you say the system you were using when you made the=3D20
> >> switch was unusually slow, short of ram, or overloaded with=3D20
> >> processing tasks?
> >>=3D20
> >> Thanks.
> >>=3D20
> >> Chip
> >>=3D20
> >> =3D3D20
> >>=3D20
> >> > -----Original Message-----
> >> > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D3D20 =3D20
> >> [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]=3D20
> >> >On Behalf Of Horspool, Matthew F.
> >> > Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 11:30 AM
> >> > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > Subject: RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was -=20
> Re:=3D3D20  =3D
> > Bug=3D20
> >> >Fixes in JAWS 6.0 =3D3D20  Used DECtalk ACCESS32 for about a=3D20
> >> year and then=3D20
> >> >switched to a=3D3D20  DECtalk USB for to get better broadcast=3D20
> >> clarity.  I=3D20
> >> >certainly=3D3D20  have noticed a huge difference in=20
> responsiveness:  =3D
> > The=3D20
> >> >DEC=3D3D20  USB is faster - a lot faster!
> >> >=3D3D20
> >> > -------------------------
> >> > Mr. Matthew F. Horspool
> >> > =3D3D20
> >> > Send me an Electronic Mail to
> >> > drjaws@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > =3D3D20
> >> > Add
> >> > horspool@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > to your MSN contact list
> >> > =3D3D20
> >> > Or Visit my web site at  http://www.horspool.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk
> >> > -------------------------
> >> >=3D3D20
> >> >=3D3D20
> >> > -----Original Message-----
> >> > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D3D20
> >> >[mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of John Miller
> >> > Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 4:20 PM
> >> > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > Subject: Re: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was -=20
> Re:=3D3D20  =3D
> > Bug=3D20
> >> >Fixes in JAWS 6.0 =3D3D20 =3D3D20  I don't notice it if so.
> >> > ----- Original Message -----
> >> > From: "Chip Orange" <Corange@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 10:47 AM
> >> > Subject: RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was -=20
> Re:=3D3D20  =3D
> > Bug=3D20
> >> >Fixes in =3D3D20  JAWS 6.0 =3D3D20 =3D3D20
> >> > > Yes; and they do use some processor time.  The=20
> question is that=3D20
> >
> >> > > on=3D3D20 todays systems, which usually have plenty of =3D
> > processor=3D3D20
> >> > speed and RAM,=3D3D20
> >> > > does that really make any difference?
> >> > >
> >> > > Now, I know that it does from reports on AT&T Natural
> >> > > Voices=3D3D20=3D20 specifically, but I was wondering about=20
> Eloquence.
> >> > >
> >> > > Thanks.
> >> > >
> >> > > Chip
> >> > >
> >> > > =3D3D3D20
> >> > >
> >> > >> -----Original Message-----
> >> > >> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D3D3D20 =3D3D20
> >> > [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]=3D3D20
> >> > >>On Behalf Of Flor Lynch
> >> > >> Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2004 9:00 PM
> >> > >> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > >> Subject: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re:=3D3D20
> >> > Bug=3D3D3D20  Fixes
> >> >=3D3D20
> >> > >>in JAWS 6.0 =3D3D3D20
> >> > >> Software synths take up more RAM than hardware ones do.
> >> > >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> > >> From: "Chip Orange" <Corange@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > >> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > >> Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2004 2:22 PM
> >> > >> Subject: RE: Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0
> >> > >>=3D3D3D20
> >> > >>=3D3D3D20
> >> > >> Well, no argument with your first point, it is more=3D3D20
> >> > difficult to have =3D3D20
> >> > >>all of the sound coming out of one source; but, when you=3D3D20
> >> > need to use =3D3D20
> >> > >>headphones so as not to disturb someone else, it's also =3D
> > more=3D3D3D20=3D20
> >> > >>=3D3D20 convenient. =3D3D3D20  As for your second, that =
just=3D20
> >> seems to come=3D20
> >> > >>down to personal=3D3D3D20
> >> =3D3D20
> >> > >>preference  as it doesn't bother me a bit.
> >> > >>=3D3D3D20
> >> > >> There is one which you didn't mention, but which I've=3D3D20
> >> > always wondered =3D3D20
> >> > >>about, and that's how much of a load does Eloquence =
place=3D3D20
> >> > on=3D3D3D20  your=3D3D20
> >> > >>system  by having the software synth as compared to=20
> sending=3D3D20
> >> > the text=3D3D20
> >> > >>to be  spoken out of the serial port?  Anyone have any =
facts=3D20
> >> > >>along=3D3D20 this
> >> > line?
> >> > >>=3D3D3D20
> >> > >> Thanks.
> >> > >>=3D3D3D20
> >> > >> Chip
> >> > >>=3D3D3D20
> >> > >> =3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >>=3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > -----Original Message-----
> >> > >> > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D3D3D3D20=3D3D20
> >> > >> >[mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Kerri
> >> > >> > Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2004 2:04 AM
> >> > >> > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > >> > Subject: Re: Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0 =3D3D3D3D20  Hello=20
>  Chip. I=3D20
> >
> >> > >> >despise software synthesizers mainly=3D3D20
> >> > because=3D3D3D3D20 if=3D3D20
> >> > >> >you are required to listen to other media, I find it=3D20
> >> to=3D3D3D3D20=3D3D20=3D20
> >> > >> >difficult to with a software synthesizer coming through=3D20
> >> the=3D3D3D3D20
> >>=3D20
> >> > >> >=3D3D
> >>=3D20
> >> > >> >same speakers. I also dislike elloquence's voice,=20
> *all of them*
> >> > >> > ----- Original Message -----
> >> > >> > From: "Chip Orange" <Corange@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > >> > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > >> > Sent: Monday, December 27, 2004 12:02 PM
> >> > >> > Subject: RE: Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0 =3D3D3D3D20=20
> =3D3D3D3D20  I'm=3D20
> >> > >> >interested in hearing why, as I use a DT express at=3D3D20
> >> > work,=3D3D3D3D20
> >> >=3D3D20
> >> > >> >and eloquence at home, and really haven't felt there's=3D20
> >> much=3D3D3D3D20
> >>=3D20
> >> > >> >=3D3D
> >>=3D20
> >> > >> >difference.  Perhaps there's just something I'm=3D20
> >> missing? =3D3D3D3D20 =3D20
> >> > >> >Thanks.
> >> > >> >=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > Chip
> >> > >> >=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > =3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> >=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > > -----Original Message-----
> >> > >> > > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D3D3D3D3D20=3D3D20
> >> > >> > >[mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Kerri
> >> > >> > > Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2004 12:17 AM
> >> > >> > > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > >> > > Subject: Re: Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0 =3D3D3D3D3D20 =20
> Chris, I=3D3D20
> >> > vehemently=3D3D20
> >> > >> > >despise software synthesizers hence=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > my=3D3D3D3D3D20  dectalk=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > >use and this is the only version that has been =3D3D
> >> rather=3D3D3D3D3D20=3D3D3D20
> >> > >>  sluggish.
> >> > >> > > ----- Original Message -----
> >> > >> > > From: "Chris Skarstad" <toonhead5@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > >> > > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > >> > > Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2004 4:15 PM
> >> > >> > > Subject: Re: Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0 =3D3D3D3D3D20=20
> =3D3D3D3D3D20 =3D
> > =3D3D20
> >> > man I guess=3D3D20
> >> > >> > >I'm very lucky then. This version actually runs =3D3D3D
> >> > > a=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> =3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > >little faster on my system than 5.10 did. Then =
again=3D3D3D20
> >> > >> I'm=3D3D3D3D3D20  using
> >> > >> =3D3D3D3D
> >> > >> a=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > >hardware synthesizer which is probably the=3D20
> >> reason.=3D3D3D3D3D20  =3D3D3D
> >> > > Never=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > did like=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > >software speech and never will based on =
what=3D3D3D3D3D20=3D20
> >>  I've=3D3D3D20
> >> > >> seen.  By the
> >> > >> =3D3D3D3D
> >> > >>=3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > >way, the murge feature is there. go to=3D3D3D3D3D20  =
your=3D20
> >> jaws=3D3D3D20
> >> > >> window with =3D3D3D3D
> >> > >> alt=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > >plus j, press alt u for utilities,=3D3D3D3D3D20  and it's =
=3D
> > in=3D3D3D20
> >> > >> there. or simply
> >> > >> =3D3D3D3D
> >> > >>=3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > >bring up the context menu if=3D3D3D3D3D20  you're =
running=3D20
> >> jaws in =3D3D
> >> =3D3D3D
> >> > > the=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > system tray=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > >and go to utilities=3D3D3D3D3D20  and the murge =
utility=3D20
> >> is there.=3D3D20
> >>=3D20
> >> > >> > >=3D3D3D3D3D20  At 04:29 PM 12/21/2004, you wrote:
> >> > >> > > >Hay, you mean, they haven't fixed any right? I'm=3D3D20
> >> > sorry, I=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > > just couldn't=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > > >resist. In truth, this has been the worst version =3D
> > I've=3D3D3D20
> >> > >> had the=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> =3D3D3D3D
> >> > >>=3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > > >misfortune to deal with in a long while. It runs=3D3D3D20
> >> > >> terribley slow,=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > > >I'm=3D3D3D3D3D20 getting false attachments, no merge=3D20
> >> feature=3D3D3D20
> >> > >> anywhere. I=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > > >love=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > > spending=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > > >money on this "improved" product. Sorry, I'm=20
> being a grinch.
> >> > >> > > >----- Original Message -----
> >> > >> > > >From: "RJ" <rjf1@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > >> > > >To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > >> > > >Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2004 2:16 PM
> >> > >> > > >Subject: Re: Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0
> >> > >> > > >
> >> > >> > > >
> >> > >> > > >You are looking right, there just isn't any bugs.=3D3D20
> >> > Smiling here.
> >> > >> > > >----- Original Message -----
> >> > >> > > >From: "Margaret Thomas" <iluvtoread@xxxxxxx>
> >> > >> > > >To: "jfw" <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > >> > > >Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2004 4:15 PM
> >> > >> > > >Subject: Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0
> >> > >> > > >
> >> > >> > > >
> >> > >> > > > > Good Afternoon,
> >> > >> > > > >
> >> > >> > > > >     I had a migraine when JAWS 6.0 was released =3D
> > and=3D3D3D20
> >> > >> am trying=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > > > > to=3D3D3D3D3D20 catch up with list mail before=3D3D20
> >> > installing the new =3D3D3D
> >> > > =3D3D3D3D
> >> > >> release.
> >> > >> > > > >
> >> > >> > > > >     I've looked over the What's New section for
> >> > >> > > > > 6.0=3D3D20=3D20 and=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > > could swear=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > > > > that there used to be a section on bug fixes,=20
> but I'm =3D
> > =3D3D3D
> >> > > not=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > > finding it=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > > > > for this version.  Am I having another senior=20
> moment, =3D
> > =3D3D3D
> >> > > or=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > > did FS not=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > > > > do it this time, or am I looking in the wrong=3D3D20
> >> > place on=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > > the FS site? =3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > > > > I've been looking at:
> >> > >> > > > >
> >> > >> > > > >
> >> > >> > >=3D20
> >> >http://www.freedomscientific.com/fs_products/software_jaws60f
> >> > >> > > ea.asp#JAW
> >> > >> > > >S_Features
> >> > >> > > > >
> >> > >> > > > >     Thanks,
> >> > >> > > > > Margaret
> >> > >> > > > > iluvtoread@xxxxxxx
> >> > >> > > > >
> >> > >> > > > > --
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> >> > >> > > >in=3D3D20=3D20 the=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > > subject line.
> >> > >> > > > > Archives located at:=3D20
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> >> > >> > > >the=3D3D20=3D20 list.=3D3D3D3D20 Rather=3D3D3D3D3D20 =
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> >> > >> > > >list owner =3D
> > at=3D3D20=3D20
> >> > >> > > >jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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> >> > >> > > >--
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> >> > >> > > >unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a=20
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> >> the word=3D3D20=3D20
> >> > >> > > >unsubscribe in the=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > > subject line.
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> >> > > from=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > > the list,=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > > >or the way the list is being run, do not post=20
> them to=3D3D20
> >> > the=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > > list. Rather=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > > >contact the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > >> > > >
> >> > >> > > >
> >> > >> > > >--
> >> > >> > > >No virus found in this incoming message.
> >> > >> > > >Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.
> >> > >> > > >Version: 7.0.296 / Virus Database: 265.6.3 - =
Release=3D3D20
> >> > Date:=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > 12/21/2004
> >> > >> > > >
> >> > >> > > >
> >> > >> > > >
> >> > >> > > >
> >> > >> > > >--
> >> > >> > > >No virus found in this outgoing message.
> >> > >> > > >Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.
> >> > >> > > >Version: 7.0.296 / Virus Database: 265.6.3 - =
Release=3D3D20
> >> > Date:=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > 12/21/2004
> >> > >> > > >
> >> > >> > > >--
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> >> > >> jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> =3D3D3D3D
> >> > >>=3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > > >unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a=20
> message=3D3D20=3D20
> >> > >> > > >to=3D3D3D3D3D20=3D3D3D3D20 jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx =
with=3D20
> >> the word=3D3D20=3D20
> >> > >> > > >unsubscribe in the=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > > subject line.
> >> > >> > > >Archives located at:=20
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> >> > >> > > >
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> received =3D3D3D
> >> > > from=3D3D3D3D3D20
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> >> > >> > > >or the way the list is being run, do not post=20
> them to=3D3D20
> >> > the=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > > list. Rather=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > > >contact the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > >> > >=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > > --
> >> > >> > > To post a message to the list, send it to=3D3D3D20
> >> > >> jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D3D3D3D3D20  To
> >> > >> =3D3D3D3D
> >> > >>=3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > >unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message=3D3D20
> >> > to=3D3D3D3D3D20 =3D3D3D3D20
> >> >=3D3D20
> >> > >> > >jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe =3D
> > in=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > the=3D3D3D3D3D20  subject=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > >line.
> >> > >> > > Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
> >> > >> > >=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > > If you have any concerns about the list, post=20
> received=3D3D3D20
> >> > >> from=3D3D3D3D3D20  =3D3D3D3D
> >> > >> the=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > >list, or the way the list is being run, do not =
post=3D3D3D20
> >> > >> them=3D3D3D3D3D20  to the
> >> > >> =3D3D3D3D
> >> > >>=3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > >list. Rather contact the list owner at=3D3D3D3D3D20  =
=3D3D3D3D
> >> > >> jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > >> > >=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > >=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > > --
> >> > >> > > No virus found in this incoming message.
> >> > >> > > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.
> >> > >> > > Version: 7.0.296 / Virus Database: 265.6.3 - Release =3D3D
> >> Date:=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > 12/21/2004=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > >=3D3D3D3D3D20 =3D3D3D3D3D20 =3D3D3D3D3D20 =3D3D3D3D3D20 =20
> --=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >
> >> > >> > >=3D
> > No=3D20
> >> > >> > >virus=3D3D20
> >> > found in this
> >> >=3D3D20
> >> > >> > >=3D3D3D
> >> > > outgoing =3D3D3D3D
> >> > >> message.
> >> > >> > > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.
> >> > >> > > Version: 7.0.296 / Virus Database: 265.6.3 - Release =3D3D
> >> Date:=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > 12/21/2004=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > >=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > > --
> >> > >> > > To post a message to the list, send it to=3D20
> >> jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx  =3D3D
> >> =3D3D3D
> >> > > To=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > >unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message=3D3D20
> >> > to=3D3D3D3D3D20 =3D3D3D3D20
> >> >=3D3D20
> >> > >> > >jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe =3D
> > in=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > the=3D3D3D3D3D20  subject=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > >line.
> >> > >> > > Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
> >> > >> > >=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > > If you have any concerns about the list, post=20
> received=3D3D3D20
> >> > >> from=3D3D3D3D3D20  =3D3D3D3D
> >> > >> the=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > >list, or the way the list is being run, do not =
post=3D3D3D20
> >> > >> them=3D3D3D3D3D20  to the
> >> > >> =3D3D3D3D
> >> > >>=3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > >list. Rather contact the list owner at=3D3D3D3D3D20  =
=3D3D3D3D
> >> > >> jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > >> > >=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > --
> >> > >> > To post a message to the list, send it to=3D3D20
> >> > jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D3D3D3D20 To=3D3D20
> >> > >> >unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message =3D
> > to=3D3D3D3D20=3D3D20=3D20
> >> > >> >jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in=3D20
> >> > >> >the=3D3D3D3D20=3D3D20 subject line.  Archives located at:
> >> > >> >//www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
> >> > >> >=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > If you have any concerns about the list, post received =3D3D
> >> from=3D3D3D3D20=3D3D20
> >> > >> >the list, or the way the list is being run, do not =
post=3D3D20
> >> > them=3D3D3D3D20 to=3D3D20
> >> > >> >the list. Rather contact the list owner =
at=3D3D3D3D20=3D3D20=3D20
> >> > >> >jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx =3D3D3D3D20 =3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > --
> >> > >> > No virus found in this incoming message.
> >> > >> > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.
> >> > >> > Version: 7.0.298 / Virus Database: 265.6.5 - Release =3D
> > Date:=3D3D3D20
> >> > >> 12/26/2004
> >> > >> >=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> >=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> >=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> >=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> >=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > --=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > No virus found in this outgoing message.
> >> > >> > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.
> >> > >> > Version: 7.0.298 / Virus Database: 265.6.5 - Release =3D
> > Date:=3D3D3D20
> >> > >> 12/26/2004
> >> > >> >=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > --
> >> > >> > To post a message to the list, send it to=3D20
> >> jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To=3D3D20=3D20
> >> > >> >unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message =3D
> > to=3D3D3D3D20=3D3D20=3D20
> >> > >> >jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in=3D20
> >> > >> >the=3D3D3D3D20=3D3D20 subject line.  Archives located at:
> >> > >> >//www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
> >> > >> >=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > If you have any concerns about the list, post received =3D3D
> >> from=3D3D3D3D20=3D3D20
> >> > >> >the list, or the way the list is being run, do not =
post=3D3D20
> >> > them=3D3D3D3D20 to=3D3D20
> >> > >> >the list. Rather contact the list owner =
at=3D3D3D3D20=3D3D20=3D20
> >> > >> >jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx =3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> --
> >> > >> To post a message to the list, send it to=3D20
> >> jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx  To=3D3D20=3D20
> >> > >>unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message =
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> >> > >>jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in=3D3D20
> >> > the=3D3D3D20  subject
> >> >=3D3D20
> >> > >>line.  Archives located at:=20
> //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
> >> > >>=3D3D3D20
> >> > >> If you have any concerns about the list, post received=3D3D20
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> >> > >>list, or  the way the list is being run, do not post =
them=3D3D20
> >> > to the list.=3D3D20
> >> > >>Rather  contact the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx =3D
> > =3D3D3D20=3D20
> >> > >>=3D3D3D20
> >> > >> --
> >> > >> To post a message to the list, send it to=3D20
> >> jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx  To=3D3D20=3D20
> >> > >>unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message=20
> to=3D3D3D20 =3D3D20
> >
> >> > >>=3D
> >
> >> > >>jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in=3D3D20
> >> > the=3D3D3D20  subject=3D3D20
> >> > >>line.
> >> > >> Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
> >> > >>=3D3D3D20
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> >> > >>list, or the way the list is being run, do not post=3D20
> >> them=3D3D3D20  to =3D3D
> >> the=3D3D20
> >> > >>list. Rather contact the list owner at=3D3D3D20  =3D3D
> >> jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > >>=3D3D3D20
> >> > > --
> >> > > To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx =3D
> > To=3D3D20=3D20
> >> > > unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message =
to=3D3D20=3D20
> >> > > jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the=3D20
> >> > > subject=3D3D20 line. Archives located at:
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> >> > >
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> from=3D3D20
> >> > the list,=3D3D20
> >> > > or the way the list is being run, do not post them to =
the=3D3D20
> >> > list. Rather=3D3D20
> >> > > contact the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > >=3D3D20
> >> >=3D3D20
> >> >=3D3D20
> >> > --
> >> > To post a message to the list, send it to=20
> jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D3D20  To
> >
> >> >=3D
> >
> >> >unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to=3D3D20=3D20
> >> >jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in=3D20
> >> the=3D3D20  subject=3D20
> >> >line.  Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
> >> >=3D3D20
> >> > If you have any concerns about the list, post received=20
> from=3D3D20  =3D
> > the=3D20
> >> >list, or the way the list is being run, do not post=20
> them=3D3D20  to the
> >
> >> >=3D
> >
> >> >list. Rather contact the list owner at=3D3D20  =3D
> > jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> >=3D3D20
> >> >=3D3D20
> >> > --
> >> > To post a message to the list, send it to=20
> jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D3D20  To
> >
> >> >=3D
> >
> >> >unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to=3D3D20 =3D20
> >> >jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in=3D20
> >> the=3D3D20  subject=3D20
> >> >line.
> >> > Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
> >> >=3D3D20
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> from=3D3D20  =3D
> > the=3D20
> >> >list, or the way the list is being run, do not post=20
> them=3D3D20  to the
> >
> >> >=3D
> >
> >> >list. Rather contact the list owner at=3D3D20  =3D
> > jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> >=3D3D20
> >> --
> >> To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D20  =
To
> >>unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to=3D20
> >>jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in=20
> the=3D20  subject
> >>line.  Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
> >>=3D20
> >> If you have any concerns about the list, post received from=3D20  =
the
> >>list, or the way the list is being run, do not post them=3D20  to =
the
> >>list. Rather contact the list owner at=3D20  =
jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>=3D20
> >> --
> >> To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D20
> >> To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to=3D20
> >> jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the=3D20
> >> subject line.
> >> Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
> >>=3D20
> >> If you have any concerns about the list, post received from=3D20
> >> the list, or the way the list is being run, do not post them=3D20
> >> to the list. Rather contact the list owner at=3D20
> >> jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>=3D20
> > --
> > To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to
> > jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the=20
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> > Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
> >
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> the list, or
> > the way the list is being run, do not post them to the list. Rather
> > contact the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >
> > --
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> > To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to
> > jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the=20
> subject line.
> > Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
> >
> > If you have any concerns about the list, post received from=20
> the list, or
> > the
> > way the list is being run, do not post them to the list.=20
> Rather contact
> > the
> > list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >
> > --
> > To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to
> > jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the=20
> subject line.
> > Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
> >
> > If you have any concerns about the list, post received from=20
> the list, or
> > the way the list is being run, do not post them to the list. Rather
> > contact the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >
> > --
> > To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to
> > jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the=20
> subject line.
> > Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
> >
> > If you have any concerns about the list, post received from=20
> the list, or=20
> > the
> > way the list is being run, do not post them to the list.=20
> Rather contact=20
> > the
> > list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > From: "Chris & Mary" <cmchaffin@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Subject: Re: Windows Up Date settings with JFW
> > Date: Thu, 30 Dec 2004 10:37:47 -0500
> >
> > Hi all,
> > At this moment I have my windows updates set to=20
> automatically download and
> > install.  I want to change this setting to either: download=20
> updates for=20
> > me,
> > but do not install them, or, notify me when there are=20
> updates but do not
> > download or install them.  Are there any pros and cons to=20
> doing one of=20
> > these
> > settings over the other?
> > Thanks for the help,
> > Chris Chaffin
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----=20
> > From: "david poehlman" <david.poehlman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 10:13 AM
> > Subject: Re: Windows Up Date settings with JFW
> >
> >
> >> this is automatic updates and no matter which version of=20
> jaws you are
> >> using,
> >> you will find automatic updates in controll panel. =20
> Activating this item
> >> brings up a dialog providing choices for settings.
> >>
> >> Johnnie Apple Seed
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----=20
> >> From: "AB7HW Dick Lee Chrisman" <ab7hw@xxxxxxx>
> >> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 11:27 PM
> >> Subject: Windows Up Date settings with JFW
> >>
> >>
> >> Hello All
> >> Using JFW 5.00.844 how do I find the Windows XP up date=20
> settings?  I want
> >> to
> >> make sure the Windows XP up date is set to manual.
> >> I look forward to your information.
> >> Dick
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to
> >> jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the=20
> subject line.
> >> Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
> >>
> >> If you have any concerns about the list, post received=20
> from the list, or
> >> the
> >> way the list is being run, do not post them to the list.=20
> Rather contact
> >> the
> >> list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>
> >> --
> >> To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to
> >> jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the=20
> subject line.
> >> Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
> >>
> >> If you have any concerns about the list, post received=20
> from the list, or
> >> the way the list is being run, do not post them to the list. Rather
> >> contact the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > From: "Horspool, Matthew F." <drjaws@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Subject: RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re:=20
> Bug Fixes in=20
> > JAWS 6
> > Date: Thu, 30 Dec 2004 16:04:35 -0000
> >
> > I'm using a 2.53 GHz processor.  I think the other figure=20
> was from an
> > old laptop.
> > -------------------------
> > Mr. Matthew F. Horspool
> >
> > Send me an Electronic Mail to
> > drjaws@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >
> > Add
> > horspool@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > to your MSN contact list
> >
> > Or Visit my web site at
> > http://www.horspool.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk
> > -------------------------
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> > Behalf Of david poehlman
> > Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 3:23 PM
> > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: Re: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re:=20
> Bug Fixes in
> > JAWS 6.0
> >
> >
> > What do you get then when you look at system in controll panel?
> >
> > Johnnie Apple Seed
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----=20
> > From: "Horspool, Matthew F." <drjaws@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 10:13 AM
> > Subject: RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re:=20
> Bug Fixes in
> >
> > JAWS 6.0
> >
> >
> > Right.  I used the System Information tool and saved in plain text.
> >
> > -------------------------
> > Mr. Matthew F. Horspool
> >
> > Send me an Electronic Mail to
> > drjaws@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >
> > Add
> > horspool@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > to your MSN contact list
> >
> > Or Visit my web site at http://www.horspool.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk
> > -------------------------
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> > Behalf Of david poehlman
> > Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 3:11 PM
> > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: Re: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re:=20
> Bug Fixes in
> > JAWS 6.0
> >
> >
> > matt,
> >
> > If you go to control panel, open system and read with the=20
> jaws cursor or
> >
> > ins+b, you are told in plain english what system you have. =20
> I'm not sure
> > what you are running to get the result you have below, but=20
> thought this
> > might help.
> >
> > Johnnie Apple Seed
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----=20
> > From: "Horspool, Matthew F." <drjaws@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 3:26 AM
> > Subject: RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re:=20
> Bug Fixes in
> >
> > JAWS 6.0
> >
> >
> > OK, I thought I got it right, but when I interrogated the=20
> system this
> > line came up:
> > Processor: x86 Family 15 Model 2 Stepping 7 GenuineIntel ~2532 MhZ
> >
> > If I interpreted this line correctly I have a 2532MhZ processor!
> >
> > -------------------------
> > Mr. Matthew F. Horspool
> >
> > Send me an Electronic Mail to
> > drjaws@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >
> > Add
> > horspool@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > to your MSN contact list
> >
> > Or Visit my web site at http://www.horspool.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk
> > -------------------------
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> > Behalf Of Chip Orange
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 5:13 PM
> > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re:=20
> Bug Fixes in
> > JAWS 6.0
> >
> >
> > If you got that right (and it's not a typo) and your=20
> processor speed was
> > only 256 mhz, then I could see why switching to a hardware=20
> synthesizer
> > had such an improvement for you.  That was quite a load for=20
> your system.
> >
> > Chip
> >
> > =3D20
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D20 =20
> [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> >>On Behalf Of Horspool, Matthew F.
> >> Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 12:05 PM
> >> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> Subject: RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re:=3D20  =
Bug
> >>Fixes in JAWS 6.0 =3D20  Well I had 512MB RAM and about 256MHZ
> >>Processors.  Running at=3D20  once I had a copy of WinAmp=20
> with the Audio
> >>stocker and=3D20  SHOUTcast plugin, Microsoft Outlook, SHOUTcast =
DNAS
> >>(GUI),=3D20  BVentrilo and the Ventrilo Server, and a copy of JFW.
> >>This=3D20  slowed down the system quite a bit. =3D20
> >> -------------------------
> >> Mr. Matthew F. Horspool
> >> =3D20
> >> Send me an Electronic Mail to
> >> drjaws@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> =3D20
> >> Add
> >> horspool@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> to your MSN contact list
> >> =3D20
> >> Or Visit my web site at
> >> http://www.horspool.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk
> >> -------------------------
> >>=3D20
> >>=3D20
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D20
> >> [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Chip Orange
> >> Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 4:38 PM
> >> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> Subject: RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re:=3D20
> >> Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0
> >>=3D20
> >>=3D20
> >> Ok,  this is the first opinion which strongly prefers one to=3D20
> >> another for other than subjective reasons, and I appreciate it.
> >>=3D20
> >> Would you say the system you were using when you made the=3D20
> >> switch was unusually slow, short of ram, or overloaded with=3D20
> >> processing tasks?
> >>=3D20
> >> Thanks.
> >>=3D20
> >> Chip
> >>=3D20
> >> =3D3D20
> >>=3D20
> >> > -----Original Message-----
> >> > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D3D20 =3D20
> >> [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]=3D20
> >> >On Behalf Of Horspool, Matthew F.
> >> > Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 11:30 AM
> >> > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > Subject: RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was -=20
> Re:=3D3D20  =3D
> > Bug=3D20
> >> >Fixes in JAWS 6.0 =3D3D20  Used DECtalk ACCESS32 for about a=3D20
> >> year and then=3D20
> >> >switched to a=3D3D20  DECtalk USB for to get better broadcast=3D20
> >> clarity.  I=3D20
> >> >certainly=3D3D20  have noticed a huge difference in=20
> responsiveness:  =3D
> > The=3D20
> >> >DEC=3D3D20  USB is faster - a lot faster!
> >> >=3D3D20
> >> > -------------------------
> >> > Mr. Matthew F. Horspool
> >> > =3D3D20
> >> > Send me an Electronic Mail to
> >> > drjaws@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > =3D3D20
> >> > Add
> >> > horspool@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > to your MSN contact list
> >> > =3D3D20
> >> > Or Visit my web site at  http://www.horspool.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk
> >> > -------------------------
> >> >=3D3D20
> >> >=3D3D20
> >> > -----Original Message-----
> >> > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D3D20
> >> >[mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of John Miller
> >> > Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 4:20 PM
> >> > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > Subject: Re: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was -=20
> Re:=3D3D20  =3D
> > Bug=3D20
> >> >Fixes in JAWS 6.0 =3D3D20 =3D3D20  I don't notice it if so.
> >> > ----- Original Message -----
> >> > From: "Chip Orange" <Corange@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 10:47 AM
> >> > Subject: RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was -=20
> Re:=3D3D20  =3D
> > Bug=3D20
> >> >Fixes in =3D3D20  JAWS 6.0 =3D3D20 =3D3D20
> >> > > Yes; and they do use some processor time.  The=20
> question is that=3D20
> >
> >> > > on=3D3D20 todays systems, which usually have plenty of =3D
> > processor=3D3D20
> >> > speed and RAM,=3D3D20
> >> > > does that really make any difference?
> >> > >
> >> > > Now, I know that it does from reports on AT&T Natural
> >> > > Voices=3D3D20=3D20 specifically, but I was wondering about=20
> Eloquence.
> >> > >
> >> > > Thanks.
> >> > >
> >> > > Chip
> >> > >
> >> > > =3D3D3D20
> >> > >
> >> > >> -----Original Message-----
> >> > >> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D3D3D20 =3D3D20
> >> > [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]=3D3D20
> >> > >>On Behalf Of Flor Lynch
> >> > >> Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2004 9:00 PM
> >> > >> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > >> Subject: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re:=3D3D20
> >> > Bug=3D3D3D20  Fixes
> >> >=3D3D20
> >> > >>in JAWS 6.0 =3D3D3D20
> >> > >> Software synths take up more RAM than hardware ones do.
> >> > >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> > >> From: "Chip Orange" <Corange@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > >> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > >> Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2004 2:22 PM
> >> > >> Subject: RE: Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0
> >> > >>=3D3D3D20
> >> > >>=3D3D3D20
> >> > >> Well, no argument with your first point, it is more=3D3D20
> >> > difficult to have =3D3D20
> >> > >>all of the sound coming out of one source; but, when you=3D3D20
> >> > need to use =3D3D20
> >> > >>headphones so as not to disturb someone else, it's also =3D
> > more=3D3D3D20=3D20
> >> > >>=3D3D20 convenient. =3D3D3D20  As for your second, that =
just=3D20
> >> seems to come=3D20
> >> > >>down to personal=3D3D3D20
> >> =3D3D20
> >> > >>preference  as it doesn't bother me a bit.
> >> > >>=3D3D3D20
> >> > >> There is one which you didn't mention, but which I've=3D3D20
> >> > always wondered =3D3D20
> >> > >>about, and that's how much of a load does Eloquence =
place=3D3D20
> >> > on=3D3D3D20  your=3D3D20
> >> > >>system  by having the software synth as compared to=20
> sending=3D3D20
> >> > the text=3D3D20
> >> > >>to be  spoken out of the serial port?  Anyone have any =
facts=3D20
> >> > >>along=3D3D20 this
> >> > line?
> >> > >>=3D3D3D20
> >> > >> Thanks.
> >> > >>=3D3D3D20
> >> > >> Chip
> >> > >>=3D3D3D20
> >> > >> =3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >>=3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > -----Original Message-----
> >> > >> > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D3D3D3D20=3D3D20
> >> > >> >[mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Kerri
> >> > >> > Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2004 2:04 AM
> >> > >> > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > >> > Subject: Re: Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0 =3D3D3D3D20  Hello=20
>  Chip. I=3D20
> >
> >> > >> >despise software synthesizers mainly=3D3D20
> >> > because=3D3D3D3D20 if=3D3D20
> >> > >> >you are required to listen to other media, I find it=3D20
> >> to=3D3D3D3D20=3D3D20=3D20
> >> > >> >difficult to with a software synthesizer coming through=3D20
> >> the=3D3D3D3D20
> >>=3D20
> >> > >> >=3D3D
> >>=3D20
> >> > >> >same speakers. I also dislike elloquence's voice,=20
> *all of them*
> >> > >> > ----- Original Message -----
> >> > >> > From: "Chip Orange" <Corange@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > >> > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > >> > Sent: Monday, December 27, 2004 12:02 PM
> >> > >> > Subject: RE: Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0 =3D3D3D3D20=20
> =3D3D3D3D20  I'm=3D20
> >> > >> >interested in hearing why, as I use a DT express at=3D3D20
> >> > work,=3D3D3D3D20
> >> >=3D3D20
> >> > >> >and eloquence at home, and really haven't felt there's=3D20
> >> much=3D3D3D3D20
> >>=3D20
> >> > >> >=3D3D
> >>=3D20
> >> > >> >difference.  Perhaps there's just something I'm=3D20
> >> missing? =3D3D3D3D20 =3D20
> >> > >> >Thanks.
> >> > >> >=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > Chip
> >> > >> >=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > =3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> >=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > > -----Original Message-----
> >> > >> > > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D3D3D3D3D20=3D3D20
> >> > >> > >[mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Kerri
> >> > >> > > Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2004 12:17 AM
> >> > >> > > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > >> > > Subject: Re: Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0 =3D3D3D3D3D20 =20
> Chris, I=3D3D20
> >> > vehemently=3D3D20
> >> > >> > >despise software synthesizers hence=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > my=3D3D3D3D3D20  dectalk=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > >use and this is the only version that has been =3D3D
> >> rather=3D3D3D3D3D20=3D3D3D20
> >> > >>  sluggish.
> >> > >> > > ----- Original Message -----
> >> > >> > > From: "Chris Skarstad" <toonhead5@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > >> > > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > >> > > Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2004 4:15 PM
> >> > >> > > Subject: Re: Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0 =3D3D3D3D3D20=20
> =3D3D3D3D3D20 =3D
> > =3D3D20
> >> > man I guess=3D3D20
> >> > >> > >I'm very lucky then. This version actually runs =3D3D3D
> >> > > a=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> =3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > >little faster on my system than 5.10 did. Then =
again=3D3D3D20
> >> > >> I'm=3D3D3D3D3D20  using
> >> > >> =3D3D3D3D
> >> > >> a=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > >hardware synthesizer which is probably the=3D20
> >> reason.=3D3D3D3D3D20  =3D3D3D
> >> > > Never=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > did like=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > >software speech and never will based on =
what=3D3D3D3D3D20=3D20
> >>  I've=3D3D3D20
> >> > >> seen.  By the
> >> > >> =3D3D3D3D
> >> > >>=3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > >way, the murge feature is there. go to=3D3D3D3D3D20  =
your=3D20
> >> jaws=3D3D3D20
> >> > >> window with =3D3D3D3D
> >> > >> alt=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > >plus j, press alt u for utilities,=3D3D3D3D3D20  and it's =
=3D
> > in=3D3D3D20
> >> > >> there. or simply
> >> > >> =3D3D3D3D
> >> > >>=3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > >bring up the context menu if=3D3D3D3D3D20  you're =
running=3D20
> >> jaws in =3D3D
> >> =3D3D3D
> >> > > the=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > system tray=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > >and go to utilities=3D3D3D3D3D20  and the murge =
utility=3D20
> >> is there.=3D3D20
> >>=3D20
> >> > >> > >=3D3D3D3D3D20  At 04:29 PM 12/21/2004, you wrote:
> >> > >> > > >Hay, you mean, they haven't fixed any right? I'm=3D3D20
> >> > sorry, I=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > > just couldn't=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > > >resist. In truth, this has been the worst version =3D
> > I've=3D3D3D20
> >> > >> had the=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> =3D3D3D3D
> >> > >>=3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > > >misfortune to deal with in a long while. It runs=3D3D3D20
> >> > >> terribley slow,=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > > >I'm=3D3D3D3D3D20 getting false attachments, no merge=3D20
> >> feature=3D3D3D20
> >> > >> anywhere. I=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > > >love=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > > spending=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > > >money on this "improved" product. Sorry, I'm=20
> being a grinch.
> >> > >> > > >----- Original Message -----
> >> > >> > > >From: "RJ" <rjf1@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > >> > > >To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > >> > > >Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2004 2:16 PM
> >> > >> > > >Subject: Re: Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0
> >> > >> > > >
> >> > >> > > >
> >> > >> > > >You are looking right, there just isn't any bugs.=3D3D20
> >> > Smiling here.
> >> > >> > > >----- Original Message -----
> >> > >> > > >From: "Margaret Thomas" <iluvtoread@xxxxxxx>
> >> > >> > > >To: "jfw" <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > >> > > >Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2004 4:15 PM
> >> > >> > > >Subject: Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0
> >> > >> > > >
> >> > >> > > >
> >> > >> > > > > Good Afternoon,
> >> > >> > > > >
> >> > >> > > > >     I had a migraine when JAWS 6.0 was released =3D
> > and=3D3D3D20
> >> > >> am trying=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > > > > to=3D3D3D3D3D20 catch up with list mail before=3D3D20
> >> > installing the new =3D3D3D
> >> > > =3D3D3D3D
> >> > >> release.
> >> > >> > > > >
> >> > >> > > > >     I've looked over the What's New section for
> >> > >> > > > > 6.0=3D3D20=3D20 and=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > > could swear=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > > > > that there used to be a section on bug fixes,=20
> but I'm =3D
> > =3D3D3D
> >> > > not=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > > finding it=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > > > > for this version.  Am I having another senior=20
> moment, =3D
> > =3D3D3D
> >> > > or=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > > did FS not=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > > > > do it this time, or am I looking in the wrong=3D3D20
> >> > place on=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > > the FS site? =3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > > > > I've been looking at:
> >> > >> > > > >
> >> > >> > > > >
> >> > >> > >=3D20
> >> >http://www.freedomscientific.com/fs_products/software_jaws60f
> >> > >> > > ea.asp#JAW
> >> > >> > > >S_Features
> >> > >> > > > >
> >> > >> > > > >     Thanks,
> >> > >> > > > > Margaret
> >> > >> > > > > iluvtoread@xxxxxxx
> >> > >> > > > >
> >> > >> > > > > --
> >> > >> > > > > To post a message to the list, send it to=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To=3D3D3D3D3D20=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > > > > unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to
> >> > >> > > >jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe
> >> > >> > > >in=3D3D20=3D20 the=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > > subject line.
> >> > >> > > > > Archives located at:=3D20
> >> //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
> >> > >> > > > >
> >> > >> > > > > If you have any concerns about the list, post =3D3D
> >> received=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > from the=3D3D3D3D3D20=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > > > > list, or
> >> > >> > > >the way the list is being run, do not post them to
> >> > >> > > >the=3D3D20=3D20 list.=3D3D3D3D20 Rather=3D3D3D3D3D20 =
contact the
> >> > >> > > >list owner =3D
> > at=3D3D20=3D20
> >> > >> > > >jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > >> > > > >
> >> > >> > > >
> >> > >> > > >--
> >> > >> > > >To post a message to the list, send it to=3D3D3D20
> >> > >> jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> =3D3D3D3D
> >> > >>=3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > > >unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a=20
> message=3D3D20=3D20
> >> > >> > > >to=3D3D3D3D3D20=3D3D3D3D20 jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx =
with=3D20
> >> the word=3D3D20=3D20
> >> > >> > > >unsubscribe in the=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > > subject line.
> >> > >> > > >Archives located at:=20
> //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
> >> > >> > > >
> >> > >> > > >If you have any concerns about the list, post=20
> received =3D3D3D
> >> > > from=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > > the list,=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > > >or the way the list is being run, do not post=20
> them to=3D3D20
> >> > the=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > > list. Rather=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > > >contact the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > >> > > >
> >> > >> > > >
> >> > >> > > >--
> >> > >> > > >No virus found in this incoming message.
> >> > >> > > >Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.
> >> > >> > > >Version: 7.0.296 / Virus Database: 265.6.3 - =
Release=3D3D20
> >> > Date:=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > 12/21/2004
> >> > >> > > >
> >> > >> > > >
> >> > >> > > >
> >> > >> > > >
> >> > >> > > >--
> >> > >> > > >No virus found in this outgoing message.
> >> > >> > > >Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.
> >> > >> > > >Version: 7.0.296 / Virus Database: 265.6.3 - =
Release=3D3D20
> >> > Date:=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > 12/21/2004
> >> > >> > > >
> >> > >> > > >--
> >> > >> > > >To post a message to the list, send it to=3D3D3D20
> >> > >> jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> =3D3D3D3D
> >> > >>=3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > > >unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a=20
> message=3D3D20=3D20
> >> > >> > > >to=3D3D3D3D3D20=3D3D3D3D20 jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx =
with=3D20
> >> the word=3D3D20=3D20
> >> > >> > > >unsubscribe in the=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > > subject line.
> >> > >> > > >Archives located at:=20
> //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
> >> > >> > > >
> >> > >> > > >If you have any concerns about the list, post=20
> received =3D3D3D
> >> > > from=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > > the list,=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > > >or the way the list is being run, do not post=20
> them to=3D3D20
> >> > the=3D3D3D3D3D20
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> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > From: "david poehlman" <david.poehlman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Subject: Re: Windows Up Date settings with JFW
> > Date: Thu, 30 Dec 2004 11:05:15 -0500
> >
> > from a jaws standpoint, it matters not.  I recommend=20
> turning them off to
> > save ram though.
> >
> > Johnnie Apple Seed
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----=20
> > From: "Chris & Mary" <cmchaffin@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 10:37 AM
> > Subject: Re: Windows Up Date settings with JFW
> >
> >
> > Hi all,
> > At this moment I have my windows updates set to=20
> automatically download and
> > install.  I want to change this setting to either: download=20
> updates for=20
> > me,
> > but do not install them, or, notify me when there are=20
> updates but do not
> > download or install them.  Are there any pros and cons to=20
> doing one of=20
> > these
> > settings over the other?
> > Thanks for the help,
> > Chris Chaffin
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----=20
> > From: "david poehlman" <david.poehlman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 10:13 AM
> > Subject: Re: Windows Up Date settings with JFW
> >
> >
> >> this is automatic updates and no matter which version of=20
> jaws you are
> >> using,
> >> you will find automatic updates in controll panel. =20
> Activating this item
> >> brings up a dialog providing choices for settings.
> >>
> >> Johnnie Apple Seed
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----=20
> >> From: "AB7HW Dick Lee Chrisman" <ab7hw@xxxxxxx>
> >> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 11:27 PM
> >> Subject: Windows Up Date settings with JFW
> >>
> >>
> >> Hello All
> >> Using JFW 5.00.844 how do I find the Windows XP up date=20
> settings?  I want
> >> to
> >> make sure the Windows XP up date is set to manual.
> >> I look forward to your information.
> >> Dick
> >>
> >>
> >> --
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> >>
> >> If you have any concerns about the list, post received=20
> from the list, or
> >> the
> >> way the list is being run, do not post them to the list.=20
> Rather contact
> >> the
> >> list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>
> >> --
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> >> To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to
> >> jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the=20
> subject line.
> >> Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
> >>
> >> If you have any concerns about the list, post received=20
> from the list, or
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> >>
> >
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> > To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to
> > jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the=20
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> > If you have any concerns about the list, post received from=20
> the list, or=20
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> > way the list is being run, do not post them to the list.=20
> Rather contact=20
> > the
> > list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > From: "Walter Siren" <wsiren@xxxxxxx>
> > Subject: Oe hotkey won't work in jaws 6.
> > Date: Thu, 30 Dec 2004 10:19:14 -0600
> >
> > I recently found a hotkey for OE.  This key is alt+grave,=20
> this hotkey=20
> > allows one to skip from the to field in  a message
> > to the message body.  With jaws 6 however, it doesn't work.=20
>  Has anybody=20
> > else ran across this.
> > Walter Siren
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Horspool, Matthew F." <drjaws@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 10:04 AM
> > Subject: RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re:=20
> Bug Fixes in=20
> > JAWS 6.0
> >
> >
> >> I'm using a 2.53 GHz processor.  I think the other figure=20
> was from an
> >> old laptop.
> >> -------------------------
> >> Mr. Matthew F. Horspool
> >>
> >> Send me an Electronic Mail to
> >> drjaws@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>
> >> Add
> >> horspool@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> to your MSN contact list
> >>
> >> Or Visit my web site at
> >> http://www.horspool.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk
> >> -------------------------
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> >> Behalf Of david poehlman
> >> Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 3:23 PM
> >> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> Subject: Re: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was -=20
> Re: Bug Fixes in
> >> JAWS 6.0
> >>
> >>
> >> What do you get then when you look at system in controll panel?
> >>
> >> Johnnie Apple Seed
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Horspool, Matthew F." <drjaws@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 10:13 AM
> >> Subject: RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was -=20
> Re: Bug Fixes in
> >>
> >> JAWS 6.0
> >>
> >>
> >> Right.  I used the System Information tool and saved in plain text.
> >>
> >> -------------------------
> >> Mr. Matthew F. Horspool
> >>
> >> Send me an Electronic Mail to
> >> drjaws@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>
> >> Add
> >> horspool@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> to your MSN contact list
> >>
> >> Or Visit my web site at http://www.horspool.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk
> >> -------------------------
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> >> Behalf Of david poehlman
> >> Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 3:11 PM
> >> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> Subject: Re: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was -=20
> Re: Bug Fixes in
> >> JAWS 6.0
> >>
> >>
> >> matt,
> >>
> >> If you go to control panel, open system and read with the=20
> jaws cursor or
> >>
> >> ins+b, you are told in plain english what system you have.=20
>  I'm not sure
> >> what you are running to get the result you have below, but=20
> thought this
> >> might help.
> >>
> >> Johnnie Apple Seed
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Horspool, Matthew F." <drjaws@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 3:26 AM
> >> Subject: RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was -=20
> Re: Bug Fixes in
> >>
> >> JAWS 6.0
> >>
> >>
> >> OK, I thought I got it right, but when I interrogated the=20
> system this
> >> line came up:
> >> Processor: x86 Family 15 Model 2 Stepping 7 GenuineIntel ~2532 MhZ
> >>
> >> If I interpreted this line correctly I have a 2532MhZ processor!
> >>
> >> -------------------------
> >> Mr. Matthew F. Horspool
> >>
> >> Send me an Electronic Mail to
> >> drjaws@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>
> >> Add
> >> horspool@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> to your MSN contact list
> >>
> >> Or Visit my web site at http://www.horspool.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk
> >> -------------------------
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> >> Behalf Of Chip Orange
> >> Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 5:13 PM
> >> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> Subject: RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was -=20
> Re: Bug Fixes in
> >> JAWS 6.0
> >>
> >>
> >> If you got that right (and it's not a typo) and your=20
> processor speed was
> >> only 256 mhz, then I could see why switching to a hardware=20
> synthesizer
> >> had such an improvement for you.  That was quite a load=20
> for your system.
> >>
> >> Chip
> >>
> >> =3D20
> >>
> >> > -----Original Message-----
> >> > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D20 =20
> [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> >> >On Behalf Of Horspool, Matthew F.
> >> > Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 12:05 PM
> >> > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > Subject: RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was -=20
> Re:=3D20  Bug
> >> >Fixes in JAWS 6.0 =3D20  Well I had 512MB RAM and about 256MHZ
> >> >Processors.  Running at=3D20  once I had a copy of WinAmp=20
> with the Audio
> >> >stocker and=3D20  SHOUTcast plugin, Microsoft Outlook,=20
> SHOUTcast DNAS
> >> >(GUI),=3D20  BVentrilo and the Ventrilo Server, and a copy of JFW.
> >> >This=3D20  slowed down the system quite a bit. =3D20
> >> > -------------------------
> >> > Mr. Matthew F. Horspool
> >> > =3D20
> >> > Send me an Electronic Mail to
> >> > drjaws@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > =3D20
> >> > Add
> >> > horspool@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > to your MSN contact list
> >> > =3D20
> >> > Or Visit my web site at
> >> > http://www.horspool.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk
> >> > -------------------------
> >> >=3D20
> >> >=3D20
> >> > -----Original Message-----
> >> > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D20
> >> > [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Chip Orange
> >> > Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 4:38 PM
> >> > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > Subject: RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re:=3D20
> >> > Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0
> >> >=3D20
> >> >=3D20
> >> > Ok,  this is the first opinion which strongly prefers one to=3D20
> >> > another for other than subjective reasons, and I appreciate it.
> >> >=3D20
> >> > Would you say the system you were using when you made the=3D20
> >> > switch was unusually slow, short of ram, or overloaded with=3D20
> >> > processing tasks?
> >> >=3D20
> >> > Thanks.
> >> >=3D20
> >> > Chip
> >> >=3D20
> >> > =3D3D20
> >> >=3D20
> >> > > -----Original Message-----
> >> > > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D3D20 =3D20
> >> > [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]=3D20
> >> > >On Behalf Of Horspool, Matthew F.
> >> > > Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 11:30 AM
> >> > > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > > Subject: RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was=20
> - Re:=3D3D20  =3D
> >> Bug=3D20
> >> > >Fixes in JAWS 6.0 =3D3D20  Used DECtalk ACCESS32 for about =
a=3D20
> >> > year and then=3D20
> >> > >switched to a=3D3D20  DECtalk USB for to get better =
broadcast=3D20
> >> > clarity.  I=3D20
> >> > >certainly=3D3D20  have noticed a huge difference in=20
> responsiveness:  =3D
> >> The=3D20
> >> > >DEC=3D3D20  USB is faster - a lot faster!
> >> > >=3D3D20
> >> > > -------------------------
> >> > > Mr. Matthew F. Horspool
> >> > > =3D3D20
> >> > > Send me an Electronic Mail to
> >> > > drjaws@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > > =3D3D20
> >> > > Add
> >> > > horspool@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > > to your MSN contact list
> >> > > =3D3D20
> >> > > Or Visit my web site at =20
> http://www.horspool.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk
> >> > > -------------------------
> >> > >=3D3D20
> >> > >=3D3D20
> >> > > -----Original Message-----
> >> > > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D3D20
> >> > >[mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of John Miller
> >> > > Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 4:20 PM
> >> > > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > > Subject: Re: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was=20
> - Re:=3D3D20  =3D
> >> Bug=3D20
> >> > >Fixes in JAWS 6.0 =3D3D20 =3D3D20  I don't notice it if so.
> >> > > ----- Original Message -----
> >> > > From: "Chip Orange" <Corange@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > > Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 10:47 AM
> >> > > Subject: RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was=20
> - Re:=3D3D20  =3D
> >> Bug=3D20
> >> > >Fixes in =3D3D20  JAWS 6.0 =3D3D20 =3D3D20
> >> > > > Yes; and they do use some processor time.  The=20
> question is that=3D20
> >>
> >> > > > on=3D3D20 todays systems, which usually have plenty of =3D
> >> processor=3D3D20
> >> > > speed and RAM,=3D3D20
> >> > > > does that really make any difference?
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Now, I know that it does from reports on AT&T Natural
> >> > > > Voices=3D3D20=3D20 specifically, but I was wondering=20
> about Eloquence.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Thanks.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Chip
> >> > > >
> >> > > > =3D3D3D20
> >> > > >
> >> > > >> -----Original Message-----
> >> > > >> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D3D3D20 =3D3D20
> >> > > [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]=3D3D20
> >> > > >>On Behalf Of Flor Lynch
> >> > > >> Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2004 9:00 PM
> >> > > >> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > > >> Subject: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - =
Re:=3D3D20
> >> > > Bug=3D3D3D20  Fixes
> >> > >=3D3D20
> >> > > >>in JAWS 6.0 =3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> Software synths take up more RAM than hardware ones do.
> >> > > >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> > > >> From: "Chip Orange" <Corange@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > > >> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > > >> Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2004 2:22 PM
> >> > > >> Subject: RE: Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0
> >> > > >>=3D3D3D20
> >> > > >>=3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> Well, no argument with your first point, it is more=3D3D20
> >> > > difficult to have =3D3D20
> >> > > >>all of the sound coming out of one source; but, when =
you=3D3D20
> >> > > need to use =3D3D20
> >> > > >>headphones so as not to disturb someone else, it's also =3D
> >> more=3D3D3D20=3D20
> >> > > >>=3D3D20 convenient. =3D3D3D20  As for your second, that =
just=3D20
> >> > seems to come=3D20
> >> > > >>down to personal=3D3D3D20
> >> > =3D3D20
> >> > > >>preference  as it doesn't bother me a bit.
> >> > > >>=3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> There is one which you didn't mention, but which I've=3D3D20
> >> > > always wondered =3D3D20
> >> > > >>about, and that's how much of a load does Eloquence=20
> place=3D3D20
> >> > > on=3D3D3D20  your=3D3D20
> >> > > >>system  by having the software synth as compared to=20
> sending=3D3D20
> >> > > the text=3D3D20
> >> > > >>to be  spoken out of the serial port?  Anyone have=20
> any facts=3D20
> >> > > >>along=3D3D20 this
> >> > > line?
> >> > > >>=3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> Thanks.
> >> > > >>=3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> Chip
> >> > > >>=3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> =3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >>=3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> > -----Original Message-----
> >> > > >> > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D3D3D3D20=3D3D20
> >> > > >> >[mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Kerri
> >> > > >> > Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2004 2:04 AM
> >> > > >> > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > > >> > Subject: Re: Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0 =3D3D3D3D20 =20
> Hello  Chip. I=3D20
> >>
> >> > > >> >despise software synthesizers mainly=3D3D20
> >> > > because=3D3D3D3D20 if=3D3D20
> >> > > >> >you are required to listen to other media, I find it=3D20
> >> > to=3D3D3D3D20=3D3D20=3D20
> >> > > >> >difficult to with a software synthesizer coming =
through=3D20
> >> > the=3D3D3D3D20
> >> >=3D20
> >> > > >> >=3D3D
> >> >=3D20
> >> > > >> >same speakers. I also dislike elloquence's voice,=20
> *all of them*
> >> > > >> > ----- Original Message -----
> >> > > >> > From: "Chip Orange" <Corange@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > > >> > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > > >> > Sent: Monday, December 27, 2004 12:02 PM
> >> > > >> > Subject: RE: Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0 =3D3D3D3D20=20
> =3D3D3D3D20  I'm=3D20
> >> > > >> >interested in hearing why, as I use a DT express at=3D3D20
> >> > > work,=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >=3D3D20
> >> > > >> >and eloquence at home, and really haven't felt there's=3D20
> >> > much=3D3D3D3D20
> >> >=3D20
> >> > > >> >=3D3D
> >> >=3D20
> >> > > >> >difference.  Perhaps there's just something I'm=3D20
> >> > missing? =3D3D3D3D20 =3D20
> >> > > >> >Thanks.
> >> > > >> >=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> > Chip
> >> > > >> >=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> > =3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> >=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> > > -----Original Message-----
> >> > > >> > > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D3D3D3D3D20=3D3D20
> >> > > >> > >[mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Kerri
> >> > > >> > > Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2004 12:17 AM
> >> > > >> > > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > > >> > > Subject: Re: Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0 =3D3D3D3D3D20 =20
> Chris, I=3D3D20
> >> > > vehemently=3D3D20
> >> > > >> > >despise software synthesizers hence=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> > my=3D3D3D3D3D20  dectalk=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> > >use and this is the only version that has been =3D3D
> >> > rather=3D3D3D3D3D20=3D3D3D20
> >> > > >>  sluggish.
> >> > > >> > > ----- Original Message -----
> >> > > >> > > From: "Chris Skarstad" <toonhead5@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > > >> > > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > > >> > > Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2004 4:15 PM
> >> > > >> > > Subject: Re: Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0 =3D3D3D3D3D20=20
> =3D3D3D3D3D20 =3D
> >> =3D3D20
> >> > > man I guess=3D3D20
> >> > > >> > >I'm very lucky then. This version actually runs =3D3D3D
> >> > > > a=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> =3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> > >little faster on my system than 5.10 did. Then=20
> again=3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> I'm=3D3D3D3D3D20  using
> >> > > >> =3D3D3D3D
> >> > > >> a=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> > >hardware synthesizer which is probably the=3D20
> >> > reason.=3D3D3D3D3D20  =3D3D3D
> >> > > > Never=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> > did like=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> > >software speech and never will based on=20
> what=3D3D3D3D3D20=3D20
> >> >  I've=3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> seen.  By the
> >> > > >> =3D3D3D3D
> >> > > >>=3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> > >way, the murge feature is there. go=20
> to=3D3D3D3D3D20  your=3D20
> >> > jaws=3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> window with =3D3D3D3D
> >> > > >> alt=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> > >plus j, press alt u for utilities,=3D3D3D3D3D20  and it's =
=3D
> >> in=3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> there. or simply
> >> > > >> =3D3D3D3D
> >> > > >>=3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> > >bring up the context menu if=3D3D3D3D3D20  you're=20
> running=3D20
> >> > jaws in =3D3D
> >> > =3D3D3D
> >> > > > the=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> > system tray=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> > >and go to utilities=3D3D3D3D3D20  and the murge =
utility=3D20
> >> > is there.=3D3D20
> >> >=3D20
> >> > > >> > >=3D3D3D3D3D20  At 04:29 PM 12/21/2004, you wrote:
> >> > > >> > > >Hay, you mean, they haven't fixed any right? I'm=3D3D20
> >> > > sorry, I=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> > > just couldn't=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> > > >resist. In truth, this has been the worst version =3D
> >> I've=3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> had the=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> =3D3D3D3D
> >> > > >>=3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> > > >misfortune to deal with in a long while. It =
runs=3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> terribley slow,=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> > > >I'm=3D3D3D3D3D20 getting false attachments, no =
merge=3D20
> >> > feature=3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> anywhere. I=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> > > >love=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> > > spending=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> > > >money on this "improved" product. Sorry, I'm=20
> being a grinch.
> >> > > >> > > >----- Original Message -----
> >> > > >> > > >From: "RJ" <rjf1@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > > >> > > >To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > > >> > > >Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2004 2:16 PM
> >> > > >> > > >Subject: Re: Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0
> >> > > >> > > >
> >> > > >> > > >
> >> > > >> > > >You are looking right, there just isn't any =
bugs.=3D3D20
> >> > > Smiling here.
> >> > > >> > > >----- Original Message -----
> >> > > >> > > >From: "Margaret Thomas" <iluvtoread@xxxxxxx>
> >> > > >> > > >To: "jfw" <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > > >> > > >Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2004 4:15 PM
> >> > > >> > > >Subject: Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0
> >> > > >> > > >
> >> > > >> > > >
> >> > > >> > > > > Good Afternoon,
> >> > > >> > > > >
> >> > > >> > > > >     I had a migraine when JAWS 6.0 was released =3D
> >> and=3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> am trying=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> > > > > to=3D3D3D3D3D20 catch up with list mail =
before=3D3D20
> >> > > installing the new =3D3D3D
> >> > > > =3D3D3D3D
> >> > > >> release.
> >> > > >> > > > >
> >> > > >> > > > >     I've looked over the What's New section for
> >> > > >> > > > > 6.0=3D3D20=3D20 and=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> > > could swear=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> > > > > that there used to be a section on bug=20
> fixes, but I'm =3D
> >> =3D3D3D
> >> > > > not=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> > > finding it=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> > > > > for this version.  Am I having another=20
> senior moment, =3D
> >> =3D3D3D
> >> > > > or=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> > > did FS not=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> > > > > do it this time, or am I looking in the wrong=3D3D20
> >> > > place on=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> > > the FS site? =3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> > > > > I've been looking at:
> >> > > >> > > > >
> >> > > >> > > > >
> >> > > >> > >=3D20
> >> > >http://www.freedomscientific.com/fs_products/software_jaws60f
> >> > > >> > > ea.asp#JAW
> >> > > >> > > >S_Features
> >> > > >> > > > >
> >> > > >> > > > >     Thanks,
> >> > > >> > > > > Margaret
> >> > > >> > > > > iluvtoread@xxxxxxx
> >> > > >> > > > >
> >> > > >> > > > > --
> >> > > >> > > > > To post a message to the list, send it to=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> > jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To=3D3D3D3D3D20=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> > > > > unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a=20
> message to
> >> > > >> > > >jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe
> >> > > >> > > >in=3D3D20=3D20 the=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> > > subject line.
> >> > > >> > > > > Archives located at:=3D20
> >> > //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
> >> > > >> > > > >
> >> > > >> > > > > If you have any concerns about the list, post =3D3D
> >> > received=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> > from the=3D3D3D3D3D20=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> > > > > list, or
> >> > > >> > > >the way the list is being run, do not post them to
> >> > > >> > > >the=3D3D20=3D20 list.=3D3D3D3D20 Rather=3D3D3D3D3D20=20
> contact the
> >> > > >> > > >list owner =3D
> >> at=3D3D20=3D20
> >> > > >> > > >jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > > >> > > > >
> >> > > >> > > >
> >> > > >> > > >--
> >> > > >> > > >To post a message to the list, send it to=3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> =3D3D3D3D
> >> > > >>=3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> > > >unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a=20
> message=3D3D20=3D20
> >> > > >> > > >to=3D3D3D3D3D20=3D3D3D3D20=20
> jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with=3D20
> >> > the word=3D3D20=3D20
> >> > > >> > > >unsubscribe in the=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> > > subject line.
> >> > > >> > > >Archives located at:=20
> //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
> >> > > >> > > >
> >> > > >> > > >If you have any concerns about the list, post=20
> received =3D3D3D
> >> > > > from=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> > > the list,=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> > > >or the way the list is being run, do not post=20
> them to=3D3D20
> >> > > the=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> > > list. Rather=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> > > >contact the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > > >> > > >
> >> > > >> > > >
> >> > > >> > > >--
> >> > > >> > > >No virus found in this incoming message.
> >> > > >> > > >Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.
> >> > > >> > > >Version: 7.0.296 / Virus Database: 265.6.3 -=20
> Release=3D3D20
> >> > > Date:=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> > 12/21/2004
> >> > > >> > > >
> >> > > >> > > >
> >> > > >> > > >
> >> > > >> > > >
> >> > > >> > > >--
> >> > > >> > > >No virus found in this outgoing message.
> >> > > >> > > >Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.
> >> > > >> > > >Version: 7.0.296 / Virus Database: 265.6.3 -=20
> Release=3D3D20
> >> > > Date:=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> > 12/21/2004
> >> > > >> > > >
> >> > > >> > > >--
> >> > > >> > > >To post a message to the list, send it to=3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> =3D3D3D3D
> >> > > >>=3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> > > >unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a=20
> message=3D3D20=3D20
> >> > > >> > > >to=3D3D3D3D3D20=3D3D3D3D20=20
> jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with=3D20
> >> > the word=3D3D20=3D20
> >> > > >> > > >unsubscribe in the=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> > > subject line.
> >> > > >> > > >Archives located at:=20
> //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
> >> > > >> > > >
> >> > > >> > > >If you have any concerns about the list, post=20
> received =3D3D3D
> >> > > > from=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> > > the list,=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> > > >or the way the list is being run, do not post=20
> them to=3D3D20
> >> > > the=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> > > list. Rather=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> > > >contact the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > > >> > >=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> > > --
> >> > > >> > > To post a message to the list, send it to=3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D3D3D3D3D20  To
> >> > > >> =3D3D3D3D
> >> > > >>=3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> > >unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message=3D3D20
> >> > > to=3D3D3D3D3D20 =3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >=3D3D20
> >> > > >> > >jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe =3D
> >> in=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> > the=3D3D3D3D3D20  subject=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> > >line.
> >> > > >> > > Archives located at:=20
> //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
> >> > > >> > >=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> > > If you have any concerns about the list, post=20
> received=3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> from=3D3D3D3D3D20  =3D3D3D3D
> >> > > >> the=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> > >list, or the way the list is being run, do not=20
> post=3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> them=3D3D3D3D3D20  to the
> >> > > >> =3D3D3D3D
> >> > > >>=3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> > >list. Rather contact the list owner=20
> at=3D3D3D3D3D20  =3D3D3D3D
> >> > > >> jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > > >> > >=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> > >=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> > > --
> >> > > >> > > No virus found in this incoming message.
> >> > > >> > > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.
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> --=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >>
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> >>  No=3D20
> >> > > >> > >virus=3D3D20
> >> > > found in this
> >> > >=3D3D20
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> >> > > > outgoing =3D3D3D3D
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> >> Date:=3D3D3D20
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> >> > > >> >=3D3D3D3D20
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> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Date: Thu, 30 Dec 2004 10:04:54 -0600
> > From: Scott Berry <scott@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Subject: a blind friendly dvd player
> >
> > Hi there,
> >
> > Has any one got any ideas on a good dvd player which is=20
> accessible?  I=20
> > have
> > a Sony here that came with Inter video Dvd Player but I was not
> > impressed.  Thanks much.  Also what is a good dvd copier to=20
> copy dvd's on
> > to the computer?
> >
> > Scott Berry
> >
> >
> > --=20
> > No virus found in this outgoing message.
> > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.
> > Version: 7.0.296 / Virus Database: 265.6.6 - Release Date:=20
> 12/28/2004
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > From: "Ray Foret Jr." <rforetjr@xxxxxxxxx>
> > Subject: Re: Cakewalk info
> > Date: Thu, 30 Dec 2004 10:31:48 -0600
> >
> > Now, the thing I want to know is this.  Does Sonar have a=20
> 5.1 channel
> > encoder which can be used to encode tracks of audio in to=20
> interleaved .wav
> > files the way Audition can?  That's one of the things I=20
> found attractive
> > about version 1.0 of Audition.  It is possible for a blind=20
> person to set=20
> > up
> > a multitrack session and then send those tracks to a 5.1=20
> channel encoder
> > assigning any number of tracks any place in the 5.1 channel=20
> spectrum and
> > then exporting the result as an interleaved .wav file or=20
> else as a Windows
> > Media 9 5.1 channel file.
> >
> > Sincerely Yours,
> >
> > The Constantly BAREFOOTED
> > Ray
> >
> > Home Phone And Fax:  (985)853-0139
> > E-mail and Windows Messenger:
> > rforetjr@xxxxxxxxx
> >
> > God Bless President George W Bush
> > God Bless America
> > And God Bless Our Troops
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----=20
> > From: "Bill" <bill.cam@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 6:35 AM
> > Subject: Re: Cakewalk info
> >
> >
> > first of all jfw actually had scripts for one versin of=20
> cake walk, long=20
> > ago.
> >
> > secondly cake walk is much more than an editor.
> >
> > its designed to let one create their own music.
> >
> > by the way cake walk is no longer the product of choice here, its
> > replacement is sonar and the dancing dots sonar talking=20
> scripts for it.
> >
> >
> > multi tracking yes.
> >
> > software music synths are supported in sonar.
> >
> > think their is even a acid type program included with sonar.
> >
> > not sure how it compares to acid.
> >
> > acid is designed to create loops.
> >
> > also sonar and cake walk correspond more with sonic foundry=20
> vegas, but=20
> > they
> > include some thing vegas does not, midi support.
> >
> >
> > you can use a editor program in conjunction with cake walk or sonar.
> >
> > like sound forge.
> >
> > your looking at about 600 dollars to buy sonar and the scripts.
> >
> > though it is possible to use sonar with out them, its more=20
> speech friendly
> > than cake walk was.
> >
> >
> >
> > bill
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to
> > jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the=20
> subject line.
> > Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
> >
> > If you have any concerns about the list, post received from=20
> the list, or=20
> > the
> > way the list is being run, do not post them to the list.=20
> Rather contact=20
> > the
> > list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >
> >
> > --=20
> > No virus found in this incoming message.
> > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.
> > Version: 7.0.298 / Virus Database: 265.6.6 - Release Date:=20
> 12/28/2004
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --=20
> > No virus found in this outgoing message.
> > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.
> > Version: 7.0.298 / Virus Database: 265.6.6 - Release Date:=20
> 12/28/2004
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > From: "Ray Foret Jr." <rforetjr@xxxxxxxxx>
> > Subject: Re: AVG Anti Virus
> > Date: Thu, 30 Dec 2004 10:33:58 -0600
> >
> > Joseph, you're right on the money about this one.  Norton;=20
> while a very=20
> > good
> > program, slowed my entire PC down real badly.  I became=20
> frustrated with
> > trying to navigate all the different components which I=20
> found behaved very
> > inconsistently.  So, I switched to AVG.  Never been happier.
> >
> > Sincerely Yours,
> >
> > The Constantly BAREFOOTED
> > Ray
> >
> > Home Phone And Fax:  (985)853-0139
> > E-mail and Windows Messenger:
> > rforetjr@xxxxxxxxx
> >
> > God Bless President George W Bush
> > God Bless America
> > And God Bless Our Troops
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----=20
> > From: "Joseph Machise" <josephmachise@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 6:37 AM
> > Subject: Re: AVG Anti Virus
> >
> >
> > Hello joe with you.
> >
> > I had norton and I had a hell of a time with norton, and=20
> jaws doesn't like
> > norton.
> >
> > The people @ freedomscientific are write. That jaws doesn't=20
> like Norton.
> > Good luck from Joseph.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "Why "do "bad "things "Happen "to "good "people!
> >
> >
> >
> > !With love always from Joseph.
> > ----- Original Message -----=20
> > From: "John Miller" <n1umj@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 7:22 AM
> > Subject: Re: AVG Anti Virus
> >
> >
> >> you obviously weren't keeping Norton up to date then=20
> because I've never
> > had
> >> an infection with Norton and can honestly say, if you want=20
> to put your
> > faith
> >> in a product that's free where they can turn around and=20
> stop tech support
> >> any time they want, and in the antivirus world where you=20
> generally get
> > what
> >> you pay for, it's your choice but I'm staying with what I=20
> know works with
> >> jaws, and more importantly, what I know will keep my computer safe.
> >> ----- Original Message -----=20
> >> From: "Kerri" <ruby75@xxxxxxxxx>
> >> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 12:16 AM
> >> Subject: Re: AVG Anti Virus
> >>
> >>
> >> > Hello! I have also used AVG 6 andnow 7 and have never had any=20
> >> > infection.
> >> > however,with norton, I had about 3 or so serious infections.
> >> > ----- Original Message -----=20
> >> > From: "Ray Foret Jr." <rforetjr@xxxxxxxxx>
> >> > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 6:36 AM
> >> > Subject: Re: AVG Anti Virus
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > I use AVG as my anti virus.  I use the free version. =20
> Version 7 is good
> >> > with
> >> > JAWS version 6.  Be aware that you'll have to set your=20
> JAWS up to read
> > all
> >> > text rather than just highlighted text when you go in to=20
> the program's
> >> > control center.  If you like, you can set JAWS up so=20
> that it only reads
> >> > all
> >> > text while in the virus vault and the control center and just
> > highlighted
> >> > text else where in the program.  I've had it for months=20
> and never an
> >> > infection once ever.
> >> >
> >> > Sincerely Yours,
> >> >
> >> > The Constantly BAREFOOTED
> >> > Ray
> >> >
> >> > Home Phone And Fax:  (985)853-0139
> >> > E-mail and Windows Messenger:
> >> > rforetjr@xxxxxxxxx
> >> >
> >> > God Bless President George W Bush
> >> > God Bless America
> >> > And God Bless Our Troops
> >> >
> >> > ----- Original Message -----=20
> >> > From: "Linksma Mezgeja" <love2knit@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > To: "jfw" <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 7:19 AM
> >> > Subject: AVG Anti Virus
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Hi!  Does anybody use AVG as their anti virus? If so,=20
> how accessible is
> > it
> >> > for the new version of JAWS which I hope to install from=20
> disc, after it
> >> > arrives?
> >> > If you have used Norton and changed over to AVG, which=20
> do you prefer
> >> > strictly as an anti virus?
> >> > Thanks.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to
> >> > jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in=20
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> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > From: "david poehlman" <david.poehlman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Subject: Re: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re:=20
> Bug Fixes in=20
> > JAWS 6
> > Date: Thu, 30 Dec 2004 11:37:35 -0500
> >
> > that's an odd number.
> >
> > Johnnie Apple Seed
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----=20
> > From: "Horspool, Matthew F." <drjaws@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 11:04 AM
> > Subject: RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re:=20
> Bug Fixes in
> > JAWS 6.0
> >
> >
> > I'm using a 2.53 GHz processor.  I think the other figure=20
> was from an
> > old laptop.
> > -------------------------
> > Mr. Matthew F. Horspool
> >
> > Send me an Electronic Mail to
> > drjaws@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >
> > Add
> > horspool@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > to your MSN contact list
> >
> > Or Visit my web site at
> > http://www.horspool.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk
> > -------------------------
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> > Behalf Of david poehlman
> > Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 3:23 PM
> > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: Re: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re:=20
> Bug Fixes in
> > JAWS 6.0
> >
> >
> > What do you get then when you look at system in controll panel?
> >
> > Johnnie Apple Seed
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----=20
> > From: "Horspool, Matthew F." <drjaws@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 10:13 AM
> > Subject: RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re:=20
> Bug Fixes in
> >
> > JAWS 6.0
> >
> >
> > Right.  I used the System Information tool and saved in plain text.
> >
> > -------------------------
> > Mr. Matthew F. Horspool
> >
> > Send me an Electronic Mail to
> > drjaws@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >
> > Add
> > horspool@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > to your MSN contact list
> >
> > Or Visit my web site at http://www.horspool.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk
> > -------------------------
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> > Behalf Of david poehlman
> > Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 3:11 PM
> > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: Re: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re:=20
> Bug Fixes in
> > JAWS 6.0
> >
> >
> > matt,
> >
> > If you go to control panel, open system and read with the=20
> jaws cursor or
> >
> > ins+b, you are told in plain english what system you have. =20
> I'm not sure
> > what you are running to get the result you have below, but=20
> thought this
> > might help.
> >
> > Johnnie Apple Seed
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----=20
> > From: "Horspool, Matthew F." <drjaws@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 3:26 AM
> > Subject: RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re:=20
> Bug Fixes in
> >
> > JAWS 6.0
> >
> >
> > OK, I thought I got it right, but when I interrogated the=20
> system this
> > line came up:
> > Processor: x86 Family 15 Model 2 Stepping 7 GenuineIntel ~2532 MhZ
> >
> > If I interpreted this line correctly I have a 2532MhZ processor!
> >
> > -------------------------
> > Mr. Matthew F. Horspool
> >
> > Send me an Electronic Mail to
> > drjaws@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >
> > Add
> > horspool@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > to your MSN contact list
> >
> > Or Visit my web site at http://www.horspool.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk
> > -------------------------
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> > Behalf Of Chip Orange
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 5:13 PM
> > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re:=20
> Bug Fixes in
> > JAWS 6.0
> >
> >
> > If you got that right (and it's not a typo) and your=20
> processor speed was
> > only 256 mhz, then I could see why switching to a hardware=20
> synthesizer
> > had such an improvement for you.  That was quite a load for=20
> your system.
> >
> > Chip
> >
> > =3D20
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D20 =20
> [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> >>On Behalf Of Horspool, Matthew F.
> >> Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 12:05 PM
> >> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> Subject: RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re:=3D20  =
Bug
> >>Fixes in JAWS 6.0 =3D20  Well I had 512MB RAM and about 256MHZ
> >>Processors.  Running at=3D20  once I had a copy of WinAmp=20
> with the Audio
> >>stocker and=3D20  SHOUTcast plugin, Microsoft Outlook, SHOUTcast =
DNAS
> >>(GUI),=3D20  BVentrilo and the Ventrilo Server, and a copy of JFW.
> >>This=3D20  slowed down the system quite a bit. =3D20
> >> -------------------------
> >> Mr. Matthew F. Horspool
> >> =3D20
> >> Send me an Electronic Mail to
> >> drjaws@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> =3D20
> >> Add
> >> horspool@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> to your MSN contact list
> >> =3D20
> >> Or Visit my web site at
> >> http://www.horspool.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk
> >> -------------------------
> >>=3D20
> >>=3D20
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D20
> >> [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Chip Orange
> >> Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 4:38 PM
> >> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> Subject: RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re:=3D20
> >> Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0
> >>=3D20
> >>=3D20
> >> Ok,  this is the first opinion which strongly prefers one to=3D20
> >> another for other than subjective reasons, and I appreciate it.
> >>=3D20
> >> Would you say the system you were using when you made the=3D20
> >> switch was unusually slow, short of ram, or overloaded with=3D20
> >> processing tasks?
> >>=3D20
> >> Thanks.
> >>=3D20
> >> Chip
> >>=3D20
> >> =3D3D20
> >>=3D20
> >> > -----Original Message-----
> >> > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D3D20 =3D20
> >> [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]=3D20
> >> >On Behalf Of Horspool, Matthew F.
> >> > Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 11:30 AM
> >> > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > Subject: RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was -=20
> Re:=3D3D20  =3D
> > Bug=3D20
> >> >Fixes in JAWS 6.0 =3D3D20  Used DECtalk ACCESS32 for about a=3D20
> >> year and then=3D20
> >> >switched to a=3D3D20  DECtalk USB for to get better broadcast=3D20
> >> clarity.  I=3D20
> >> >certainly=3D3D20  have noticed a huge difference in=20
> responsiveness:  =3D
> > The=3D20
> >> >DEC=3D3D20  USB is faster - a lot faster!
> >> >=3D3D20
> >> > -------------------------
> >> > Mr. Matthew F. Horspool
> >> > =3D3D20
> >> > Send me an Electronic Mail to
> >> > drjaws@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > =3D3D20
> >> > Add
> >> > horspool@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > to your MSN contact list
> >> > =3D3D20
> >> > Or Visit my web site at  http://www.horspool.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk
> >> > -------------------------
> >> >=3D3D20
> >> >=3D3D20
> >> > -----Original Message-----
> >> > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D3D20
> >> >[mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of John Miller
> >> > Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 4:20 PM
> >> > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > Subject: Re: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was -=20
> Re:=3D3D20  =3D
> > Bug=3D20
> >> >Fixes in JAWS 6.0 =3D3D20 =3D3D20  I don't notice it if so.
> >> > ----- Original Message -----
> >> > From: "Chip Orange" <Corange@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 10:47 AM
> >> > Subject: RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was -=20
> Re:=3D3D20  =3D
> > Bug=3D20
> >> >Fixes in =3D3D20  JAWS 6.0 =3D3D20 =3D3D20
> >> > > Yes; and they do use some processor time.  The=20
> question is that=3D20
> >
> >> > > on=3D3D20 todays systems, which usually have plenty of =3D
> > processor=3D3D20
> >> > speed and RAM,=3D3D20
> >> > > does that really make any difference?
> >> > >
> >> > > Now, I know that it does from reports on AT&T Natural
> >> > > Voices=3D3D20=3D20 specifically, but I was wondering about=20
> Eloquence.
> >> > >
> >> > > Thanks.
> >> > >
> >> > > Chip
> >> > >
> >> > > =3D3D3D20
> >> > >
> >> > >> -----Original Message-----
> >> > >> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D3D3D20 =3D3D20
> >> > [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]=3D3D20
> >> > >>On Behalf Of Flor Lynch
> >> > >> Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2004 9:00 PM
> >> > >> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > >> Subject: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re:=3D3D20
> >> > Bug=3D3D3D20  Fixes
> >> >=3D3D20
> >> > >>in JAWS 6.0 =3D3D3D20
> >> > >> Software synths take up more RAM than hardware ones do.
> >> > >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> > >> From: "Chip Orange" <Corange@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > >> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > >> Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2004 2:22 PM
> >> > >> Subject: RE: Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0
> >> > >>=3D3D3D20
> >> > >>=3D3D3D20
> >> > >> Well, no argument with your first point, it is more=3D3D20
> >> > difficult to have =3D3D20
> >> > >>all of the sound coming out of one source; but, when you=3D3D20
> >> > need to use =3D3D20
> >> > >>headphones so as not to disturb someone else, it's also =3D
> > more=3D3D3D20=3D20
> >> > >>=3D3D20 convenient. =3D3D3D20  As for your second, that =
just=3D20
> >> seems to come=3D20
> >> > >>down to personal=3D3D3D20
> >> =3D3D20
> >> > >>preference  as it doesn't bother me a bit.
> >> > >>=3D3D3D20
> >> > >> There is one which you didn't mention, but which I've=3D3D20
> >> > always wondered =3D3D20
> >> > >>about, and that's how much of a load does Eloquence =
place=3D3D20
> >> > on=3D3D3D20  your=3D3D20
> >> > >>system  by having the software synth as compared to=20
> sending=3D3D20
> >> > the text=3D3D20
> >> > >>to be  spoken out of the serial port?  Anyone have any =
facts=3D20
> >> > >>along=3D3D20 this
> >> > line?
> >> > >>=3D3D3D20
> >> > >> Thanks.
> >> > >>=3D3D3D20
> >> > >> Chip
> >> > >>=3D3D3D20
> >> > >> =3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >>=3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > -----Original Message-----
> >> > >> > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D3D3D3D20=3D3D20
> >> > >> >[mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Kerri
> >> > >> > Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2004 2:04 AM
> >> > >> > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > >> > Subject: Re: Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0 =3D3D3D3D20  Hello=20
>  Chip. I=3D20
> >
> >> > >> >despise software synthesizers mainly=3D3D20
> >> > because=3D3D3D3D20 if=3D3D20
> >> > >> >you are required to listen to other media, I find it=3D20
> >> to=3D3D3D3D20=3D3D20=3D20
> >> > >> >difficult to with a software synthesizer coming through=3D20
> >> the=3D3D3D3D20
> >>=3D20
> >> > >> >=3D3D
> >>=3D20
> >> > >> >same speakers. I also dislike elloquence's voice,=20
> *all of them*
> >> > >> > ----- Original Message -----
> >> > >> > From: "Chip Orange" <Corange@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > >> > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > >> > Sent: Monday, December 27, 2004 12:02 PM
> >> > >> > Subject: RE: Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0 =3D3D3D3D20=20
> =3D3D3D3D20  I'm=3D20
> >> > >> >interested in hearing why, as I use a DT express at=3D3D20
> >> > work,=3D3D3D3D20
> >> >=3D3D20
> >> > >> >and eloquence at home, and really haven't felt there's=3D20
> >> much=3D3D3D3D20
> >>=3D20
> >> > >> >=3D3D
> >>=3D20
> >> > >> >difference.  Perhaps there's just something I'm=3D20
> >> missing? =3D3D3D3D20 =3D20
> >> > >> >Thanks.
> >> > >> >=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > Chip
> >> > >> >=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > =3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> >=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > > -----Original Message-----
> >> > >> > > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D3D3D3D3D20=3D3D20
> >> > >> > >[mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Kerri
> >> > >> > > Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2004 12:17 AM
> >> > >> > > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > >> > > Subject: Re: Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0 =3D3D3D3D3D20 =20
> Chris, I=3D3D20
> >> > vehemently=3D3D20
> >> > >> > >despise software synthesizers hence=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > my=3D3D3D3D3D20  dectalk=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > >use and this is the only version that has been =3D3D
> >> rather=3D3D3D3D3D20=3D3D3D20
> >> > >>  sluggish.
> >> > >> > > ----- Original Message -----
> >> > >> > > From: "Chris Skarstad" <toonhead5@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > >> > > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > >> > > Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2004 4:15 PM
> >> > >> > > Subject: Re: Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0 =3D3D3D3D3D20=20
> =3D3D3D3D3D20 =3D
> > =3D3D20
> >> > man I guess=3D3D20
> >> > >> > >I'm very lucky then. This version actually runs =3D3D3D
> >> > > a=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> =3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > >little faster on my system than 5.10 did. Then =
again=3D3D3D20
> >> > >> I'm=3D3D3D3D3D20  using
> >> > >> =3D3D3D3D
> >> > >> a=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > >hardware synthesizer which is probably the=3D20
> >> reason.=3D3D3D3D3D20  =3D3D3D
> >> > > Never=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > did like=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > >software speech and never will based on =
what=3D3D3D3D3D20=3D20
> >>  I've=3D3D3D20
> >> > >> seen.  By the
> >> > >> =3D3D3D3D
> >> > >>=3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > >way, the murge feature is there. go to=3D3D3D3D3D20  =
your=3D20
> >> jaws=3D3D3D20
> >> > >> window with =3D3D3D3D
> >> > >> alt=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > >plus j, press alt u for utilities,=3D3D3D3D3D20  and it's =
=3D
> > in=3D3D3D20
> >> > >> there. or simply
> >> > >> =3D3D3D3D
> >> > >>=3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > >bring up the context menu if=3D3D3D3D3D20  you're =
running=3D20
> >> jaws in =3D3D
> >> =3D3D3D
> >> > > the=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > system tray=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > >and go to utilities=3D3D3D3D3D20  and the murge =
utility=3D20
> >> is there.=3D3D20
> >>=3D20
> >> > >> > >=3D3D3D3D3D20  At 04:29 PM 12/21/2004, you wrote:
> >> > >> > > >Hay, you mean, they haven't fixed any right? I'm=3D3D20
> >> > sorry, I=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > > just couldn't=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > > >resist. In truth, this has been the worst version =3D
> > I've=3D3D3D20
> >> > >> had the=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> =3D3D3D3D
> >> > >>=3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > > >misfortune to deal with in a long while. It runs=3D3D3D20
> >> > >> terribley slow,=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > > >I'm=3D3D3D3D3D20 getting false attachments, no merge=3D20
> >> feature=3D3D3D20
> >> > >> anywhere. I=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > > >love=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > > spending=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > > >money on this "improved" product. Sorry, I'm=20
> being a grinch.
> >> > >> > > >----- Original Message -----
> >> > >> > > >From: "RJ" <rjf1@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > >> > > >To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > >> > > >Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2004 2:16 PM
> >> > >> > > >Subject: Re: Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0
> >> > >> > > >
> >> > >> > > >
> >> > >> > > >You are looking right, there just isn't any bugs.=3D3D20
> >> > Smiling here.
> >> > >> > > >----- Original Message -----
> >> > >> > > >From: "Margaret Thomas" <iluvtoread@xxxxxxx>
> >> > >> > > >To: "jfw" <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > >> > > >Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2004 4:15 PM
> >> > >> > > >Subject: Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0
> >> > >> > > >
> >> > >> > > >
> >> > >> > > > > Good Afternoon,
> >> > >> > > > >
> >> > >> > > > >     I had a migraine when JAWS 6.0 was released =3D
> > and=3D3D3D20
> >> > >> am trying=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > > > > to=3D3D3D3D3D20 catch up with list mail before=3D3D20
> >> > installing the new =3D3D3D
> >> > > =3D3D3D3D
> >> > >> release.
> >> > >> > > > >
> >> > >> > > > >     I've looked over the What's New section for
> >> > >> > > > > 6.0=3D3D20=3D20 and=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > > could swear=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > > > > that there used to be a section on bug fixes,=20
> but I'm =3D
> > =3D3D3D
> >> > > not=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > > finding it=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > > > > for this version.  Am I having another senior=20
> moment, =3D
> > =3D3D3D
> >> > > or=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > > did FS not=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > > > > do it this time, or am I looking in the wrong=3D3D20
> >> > place on=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > > the FS site? =3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > > > > I've been looking at:
> >> > >> > > > >
> >> > >> > > > >
> >> > >> > >=3D20
> >> >http://www.freedomscientific.com/fs_products/software_jaws60f
> >> > >> > > ea.asp#JAW
> >> > >> > > >S_Features
> >> > >> > > > >
> >> > >> > > > >     Thanks,
> >> > >> > > > > Margaret
> >> > >> > > > > iluvtoread@xxxxxxx
> >> > >> > > > >
> >> > >> > > > > --
> >> > >> > > > > To post a message to the list, send it to=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To=3D3D3D3D3D20=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > > > > unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to
> >> > >> > > >jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe
> >> > >> > > >in=3D3D20=3D20 the=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > > subject line.
> >> > >> > > > > Archives located at:=3D20
> >> //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
> >> > >> > > > >
> >> > >> > > > > If you have any concerns about the list, post =3D3D
> >> received=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > from the=3D3D3D3D3D20=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > > > > list, or
> >> > >> > > >the way the list is being run, do not post them to
> >> > >> > > >the=3D3D20=3D20 list.=3D3D3D3D20 Rather=3D3D3D3D3D20 =
contact the
> >> > >> > > >list owner =3D
> > at=3D3D20=3D20
> >> > >> > > >jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > >> > > > >
> >> > >> > > >
> >> > >> > > >--
> >> > >> > > >To post a message to the list, send it to=3D3D3D20
> >> > >> jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> =3D3D3D3D
> >> > >>=3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > > >unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a=20
> message=3D3D20=3D20
> >> > >> > > >to=3D3D3D3D3D20=3D3D3D3D20 jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx =
with=3D20
> >> the word=3D3D20=3D20
> >> > >> > > >unsubscribe in the=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > > subject line.
> >> > >> > > >Archives located at:=20
> //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
> >> > >> > > >
> >> > >> > > >If you have any concerns about the list, post=20
> received =3D3D3D
> >> > > from=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > > the list,=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > > >or the way the list is being run, do not post=20
> them to=3D3D20
> >> > the=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > > list. Rather=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > > >contact the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > >> > > >
> >> > >> > > >
> >> > >> > > >--
> >> > >> > > >No virus found in this incoming message.
> >> > >> > > >Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.
> >> > >> > > >Version: 7.0.296 / Virus Database: 265.6.3 - =
Release=3D3D20
> >> > Date:=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > 12/21/2004
> >> > >> > > >
> >> > >> > > >
> >> > >> > > >
> >> > >> > > >
> >> > >> > > >--
> >> > >> > > >No virus found in this outgoing message.
> >> > >> > > >Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.
> >> > >> > > >Version: 7.0.296 / Virus Database: 265.6.3 - =
Release=3D3D20
> >> > Date:=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > 12/21/2004
> >> > >> > > >
> >> > >> > > >--
> >> > >> > > >To post a message to the list, send it to=3D3D3D20
> >> > >> jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> =3D3D3D3D
> >> > >>=3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > > >unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a=20
> message=3D3D20=3D20
> >> > >> > > >to=3D3D3D3D3D20=3D3D3D3D20 jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx =
with=3D20
> >> the word=3D3D20=3D20
> >> > >> > > >unsubscribe in the=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > > subject line.
> >> > >> > > >Archives located at:=20
> //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
> >> > >> > > >
> >> > >> > > >If you have any concerns about the list, post=20
> received =3D3D3D
> >> > > from=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > > the list,=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > > >or the way the list is being run, do not post=20
> them to=3D3D20
> >> > the=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > > list. Rather=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > > >contact the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > >> > >=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > > --
> >> > >> > > To post a message to the list, send it to=3D3D3D20
> >> > >> jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D3D3D3D3D20  To
> >> > >> =3D3D3D3D
> >> > >>=3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > >unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message=3D3D20
> >> > to=3D3D3D3D3D20 =3D3D3D3D20
> >> >=3D3D20
> >> > >> > >jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe =3D
> > in=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > the=3D3D3D3D3D20  subject=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > >line.
> >> > >> > > Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
> >> > >> > >=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > > If you have any concerns about the list, post=20
> received=3D3D3D20
> >> > >> from=3D3D3D3D3D20  =3D3D3D3D
> >> > >> the=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > >list, or the way the list is being run, do not =
post=3D3D3D20
> >> > >> them=3D3D3D3D3D20  to the
> >> > >> =3D3D3D3D
> >> > >>=3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > >list. Rather contact the list owner at=3D3D3D3D3D20  =
=3D3D3D3D
> >> > >> jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > >> > >=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > >=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > > --
> >> > >> > > No virus found in this incoming message.
> >> > >> > > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.
> >> > >> > > Version: 7.0.296 / Virus Database: 265.6.3 - Release =3D3D
> >> Date:=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > 12/21/2004=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > >=3D3D3D3D3D20 =3D3D3D3D3D20 =3D3D3D3D3D20 =3D3D3D3D3D20 =20
> --=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >
> >> > >> > >=3D
> > No=3D20
> >> > >> > >virus=3D3D20
> >> > found in this
> >> >=3D3D20
> >> > >> > >=3D3D3D
> >> > > outgoing =3D3D3D3D
> >> > >> message.
> >> > >> > > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.
> >> > >> > > Version: 7.0.296 / Virus Database: 265.6.3 - Release =3D3D
> >> Date:=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > 12/21/2004=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > >=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > > --
> >> > >> > > To post a message to the list, send it to=3D20
> >> jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx  =3D3D
> >> =3D3D3D
> >> > > To=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > >unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message=3D3D20
> >> > to=3D3D3D3D3D20 =3D3D3D3D20
> >> >=3D3D20
> >> > >> > >jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe =3D
> > in=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > the=3D3D3D3D3D20  subject=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > >line.
> >> > >> > > Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
> >> > >> > >=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > > If you have any concerns about the list, post=20
> received=3D3D3D20
> >> > >> from=3D3D3D3D3D20  =3D3D3D3D
> >> > >> the=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > >list, or the way the list is being run, do not =
post=3D3D3D20
> >> > >> them=3D3D3D3D3D20  to the
> >> > >> =3D3D3D3D
> >> > >>=3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > >list. Rather contact the list owner at=3D3D3D3D3D20  =
=3D3D3D3D
> >> > >> jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > >> > >=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > --
> >> > >> > To post a message to the list, send it to=3D3D20
> >> > jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D3D3D3D20 To=3D3D20
> >> > >> >unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message =3D
> > to=3D3D3D3D20=3D3D20=3D20
> >> > >> >jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in=3D20
> >> > >> >the=3D3D3D3D20=3D3D20 subject line.  Archives located at:
> >> > >> >//www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
> >> > >> >=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > If you have any concerns about the list, post received =3D3D
> >> from=3D3D3D3D20=3D3D20
> >> > >> >the list, or the way the list is being run, do not =
post=3D3D20
> >> > them=3D3D3D3D20 to=3D3D20
> >> > >> >the list. Rather contact the list owner =
at=3D3D3D3D20=3D3D20=3D20
> >> > >> >jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx =3D3D3D3D20 =3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > --
> >> > >> > No virus found in this incoming message.
> >> > >> > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.
> >> > >> > Version: 7.0.298 / Virus Database: 265.6.5 - Release =3D
> > Date:=3D3D3D20
> >> > >> 12/26/2004
> >> > >> >=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> >=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> >=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> >=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> >=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > --=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > No virus found in this outgoing message.
> >> > >> > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.
> >> > >> > Version: 7.0.298 / Virus Database: 265.6.5 - Release =3D
> > Date:=3D3D3D20
> >> > >> 12/26/2004
> >> > >> >=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > --
> >> > >> > To post a message to the list, send it to=3D20
> >> jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To=3D3D20=3D20
> >> > >> >unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message =3D
> > to=3D3D3D3D20=3D3D20=3D20
> >> > >> >jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in=3D20
> >> > >> >the=3D3D3D3D20=3D3D20 subject line.  Archives located at:
> >> > >> >//www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
> >> > >> >=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > If you have any concerns about the list, post received =3D3D
> >> from=3D3D3D3D20=3D3D20
> >> > >> >the list, or the way the list is being run, do not =
post=3D3D20
> >> > them=3D3D3D3D20 to=3D3D20
> >> > >> >the list. Rather contact the list owner =
at=3D3D3D3D20=3D3D20=3D20
> >> > >> >jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx =3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> --
> >> > >> To post a message to the list, send it to=3D20
> >> jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx  To=3D3D20=3D20
> >> > >>unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message =
to=3D3D20=3D20
> >> > >>jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in=3D3D20
> >> > the=3D3D3D20  subject
> >> >=3D3D20
> >> > >>line.  Archives located at:=20
> //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
> >> > >>=3D3D3D20
> >> > >> If you have any concerns about the list, post received=3D3D20
> >> > from=3D3D3D20  the=3D3D20
> >> > >>list, or  the way the list is being run, do not post =
them=3D3D20
> >> > to the list.=3D3D20
> >> > >>Rather  contact the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx =3D
> > =3D3D3D20=3D20
> >> > >>=3D3D3D20
> >> > >> --
> >> > >> To post a message to the list, send it to=3D20
> >> jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx  To=3D3D20=3D20
> >> > >>unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message=20
> to=3D3D3D20 =3D3D20
> >
> >> > >>=3D
> >
> >> > >>jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in=3D3D20
> >> > the=3D3D3D20  subject=3D3D20
> >> > >>line.
> >> > >> Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
> >> > >>=3D3D3D20
> >> > >> If you have any concerns about the list, post received=3D3D20
> >> > from=3D3D3D20  the=3D3D20
> >> > >>list, or the way the list is being run, do not post=3D20
> >> them=3D3D3D20  to =3D3D
> >> the=3D3D20
> >> > >>list. Rather contact the list owner at=3D3D3D20  =3D3D
> >> jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > >>=3D3D3D20
> >> > > --
> >> > > To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx =3D
> > To=3D3D20=3D20
> >> > > unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message =
to=3D3D20=3D20
> >> > > jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the=3D20
> >> > > subject=3D3D20 line. Archives located at:
> >> > > //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
> >> > >
> >> > > If you have any concerns about the list, post received=20
> from=3D3D20
> >> > the list,=3D3D20
> >> > > or the way the list is being run, do not post them to =
the=3D3D20
> >> > list. Rather=3D3D20
> >> > > contact the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > >=3D3D20
> >> >=3D3D20
> >> >=3D3D20
> >> > --
> >> > To post a message to the list, send it to=20
> jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D3D20  To
> >
> >> >=3D
> >
> >> >unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to=3D3D20=3D20
> >> >jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in=3D20
> >> the=3D3D20  subject=3D20
> >> >line.  Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
> >> >=3D3D20
> >> > If you have any concerns about the list, post received=20
> from=3D3D20  =3D
> > the=3D20
> >> >list, or the way the list is being run, do not post=20
> them=3D3D20  to the
> >
> >> >=3D
> >
> >> >list. Rather contact the list owner at=3D3D20  =3D
> > jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> >=3D3D20
> >> >=3D3D20
> >> > --
> >> > To post a message to the list, send it to=20
> jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D3D20  To
> >
> >> >=3D
> >
> >> >unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to=3D3D20 =3D20
> >> >jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in=3D20
> >> the=3D3D20  subject=3D20
> >> >line.
> >> > Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
> >> >=3D3D20
> >> > If you have any concerns about the list, post received=20
> from=3D3D20  =3D
> > the=3D20
> >> >list, or the way the list is being run, do not post=20
> them=3D3D20  to the
> >
> >> >=3D
> >
> >> >list. Rather contact the list owner at=3D3D20  =3D
> > jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> >=3D3D20
> >> --
> >> To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D20  =
To
> >>unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to=3D20
> >>jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in=20
> the=3D20  subject
> >>line.  Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
> >>=3D20
> >> If you have any concerns about the list, post received from=3D20  =
the
> >>list, or the way the list is being run, do not post them=3D20  to =
the
> >>list. Rather contact the list owner at=3D20  =
jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>=3D20
> >> --
> >> To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D20  =
To
> >>unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to=3D20
> >>jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in=20
> the=3D20  subject
> >>line.  Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
> >>=3D20
> >> If you have any concerns about the list, post received from=3D20
> >> the list, or the way the list is being run, do not post them=3D20
> >> to the list. Rather contact the list owner at=3D20
> >> jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>=3D20
> > --
> > To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to
> > jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the=20
> subject line.
> > Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
> >
> > If you have any concerns about the list, post received from=20
> the list, or
> > the way the list is being run, do not post them to the list. Rather
> > contact the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >
> > --
> > To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to
> > jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the=20
> subject line.
> > Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
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> > If you have any concerns about the list, post received from=20
> the list, or
> > the way the list is being run, do not post them to the list. Rather
> > contact the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >
> > --
> > To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to
> > jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the=20
> subject line.
> > Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
> >
> > If you have any concerns about the list, post received from=20
> the list, or
> > the way the list is being run, do not post them to the list. Rather
> > contact the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >
> > --
> > To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to
> > jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the=20
> subject line.
> > Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
> >
> > If you have any concerns about the list, post received from=20
> the list, or
> > the
> > way the list is being run, do not post them to the list.=20
> Rather contact
> > the
> > list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >
> > --
> > To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to
> > jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the=20
> subject line.
> > Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
> >
> > If you have any concerns about the list, post received from=20
> the list, or
> > the way the list is being run, do not post them to the list. Rather
> > contact the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to
> > jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the=20
> subject line.
> > Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
> >
> > If you have any concerns about the list, post received from=20
> the list, or=20
> > the
> > way the list is being run, do not post them to the list.=20
> Rather contact=20
> > the
> > list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > From: "John Miller" <n1umj@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Subject: Re: Windows Up Date settings with JFW
> > Date: Thu, 30 Dec 2004 11:41:04 -0500
> >
> > If I were you, I'd leave it as is, I like to get updates=20
> soon as they come
> > here but if you have a reason for changing short of just=20
> because you can,
> > it's just a matter of preference.
> > ----- Original Message -----=20
> > From: "Chris & Mary" <cmchaffin@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 10:37 AM
> > Subject: Re: Windows Up Date settings with JFW
> >
> >
> >> Hi all,
> >> At this moment I have my windows updates set to=20
> automatically download=20
> >> and
> >> install.  I want to change this setting to either:=20
> download updates for
> >> me,
> >> but do not install them, or, notify me when there are=20
> updates but do not
> >> download or install them.  Are there any pros and cons to=20
> doing one of
> >> these
> >> settings over the other?
> >> Thanks for the help,
> >> Chris Chaffin
> >>
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----=20
> >> From: "david poehlman" <david.poehlman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 10:13 AM
> >> Subject: Re: Windows Up Date settings with JFW
> >>
> >>
> >>> this is automatic updates and no matter which version of=20
> jaws you are
> >>> using,
> >>> you will find automatic updates in controll panel. =20
> Activating this item
> >>> brings up a dialog providing choices for settings.
> >>>
> >>> Johnnie Apple Seed
> >>>
> >>> ----- Original Message -----=20
> >>> From: "AB7HW Dick Lee Chrisman" <ab7hw@xxxxxxx>
> >>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>> Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 11:27 PM
> >>> Subject: Windows Up Date settings with JFW
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Hello All
> >>> Using JFW 5.00.844 how do I find the Windows XP up date=20
> settings?  I=20
> >>> want
> >>> to
> >>> make sure the Windows XP up date is set to manual.
> >>> I look forward to your information.
> >>> Dick
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>> To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to
> >>> jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in=20
> the subject line.
> >>> Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
> >>>
> >>> If you have any concerns about the list, post received=20
> from the list, or
> >>> the
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> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > From: "Horspool, Matthew F." <drjaws@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Subject: RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re:=20
> Bug Fixes in=20
> > JAWS 6
> > Date: Thu, 30 Dec 2004 16:46:21 -0000
> >
> > Well that's what I was told
> >
> > -------------------------
> > Mr. Matthew F. Horspool
> >
> > Send me an Electronic Mail to
> > drjaws@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >
> > Add
> > horspool@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > to your MSN contact list
> >
> > Or Visit my web site at
> > http://www.horspool.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk
> > -------------------------
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> > Behalf Of david poehlman
> > Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 4:38 PM
> > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: Re: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re:=20
> Bug Fixes in
> > JAWS 6.0
> >
> >
> > that's an odd number.
> >
> > Johnnie Apple Seed
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----=20
> > From: "Horspool, Matthew F." <drjaws@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 11:04 AM
> > Subject: RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re:=20
> Bug Fixes in
> >
> > JAWS 6.0
> >
> >
> > I'm using a 2.53 GHz processor.  I think the other figure=20
> was from an
> > old laptop.
> > -------------------------
> > Mr. Matthew F. Horspool
> >
> > Send me an Electronic Mail to
> > drjaws@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >
> > Add
> > horspool@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > to your MSN contact list
> >
> > Or Visit my web site at http://www.horspool.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk
> > -------------------------
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> > Behalf Of david poehlman
> > Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 3:23 PM
> > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: Re: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re:=20
> Bug Fixes in
> > JAWS 6.0
> >
> >
> > What do you get then when you look at system in controll panel?
> >
> > Johnnie Apple Seed
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----=20
> > From: "Horspool, Matthew F." <drjaws@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 10:13 AM
> > Subject: RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re:=20
> Bug Fixes in
> >
> > JAWS 6.0
> >
> >
> > Right.  I used the System Information tool and saved in plain text.
> >
> > -------------------------
> > Mr. Matthew F. Horspool
> >
> > Send me an Electronic Mail to
> > drjaws@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >
> > Add
> > horspool@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > to your MSN contact list
> >
> > Or Visit my web site at http://www.horspool.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk
> > -------------------------
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> > Behalf Of david poehlman
> > Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 3:11 PM
> > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: Re: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re:=20
> Bug Fixes in
> > JAWS 6.0
> >
> >
> > matt,
> >
> > If you go to control panel, open system and read with the=20
> jaws cursor or
> >
> > ins+b, you are told in plain english what system you have. =20
> I'm not sure
> > what you are running to get the result you have below, but=20
> thought this
> > might help.
> >
> > Johnnie Apple Seed
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----=20
> > From: "Horspool, Matthew F." <drjaws@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 3:26 AM
> > Subject: RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re:=20
> Bug Fixes in
> >
> > JAWS 6.0
> >
> >
> > OK, I thought I got it right, but when I interrogated the=20
> system this
> > line came up:
> > Processor: x86 Family 15 Model 2 Stepping 7 GenuineIntel ~2532 MhZ
> >
> > If I interpreted this line correctly I have a 2532MhZ processor!
> >
> > -------------------------
> > Mr. Matthew F. Horspool
> >
> > Send me an Electronic Mail to
> > drjaws@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >
> > Add
> > horspool@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > to your MSN contact list
> >
> > Or Visit my web site at http://www.horspool.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk
> > -------------------------
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> > Behalf Of Chip Orange
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 5:13 PM
> > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re:=20
> Bug Fixes in
> > JAWS 6.0
> >
> >
> > If you got that right (and it's not a typo) and your=20
> processor speed was
> > only 256 mhz, then I could see why switching to a hardware=20
> synthesizer
> > had such an improvement for you.  That was quite a load for=20
> your system.
> >
> > Chip
> >
> > =3D20
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D20 =20
> [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> >>On Behalf Of Horspool, Matthew F.
> >> Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 12:05 PM
> >> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> Subject: RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re:=3D20  =
Bug
> >>Fixes in JAWS 6.0 =3D20  Well I had 512MB RAM and about 256MHZ
> >>Processors.  Running at=3D20  once I had a copy of WinAmp=20
> with the Audio
> >>stocker and=3D20  SHOUTcast plugin, Microsoft Outlook, SHOUTcast =
DNAS
> >>(GUI),=3D20  BVentrilo and the Ventrilo Server, and a copy of JFW.
> >>This=3D20  slowed down the system quite a bit. =3D20
> >> -------------------------
> >> Mr. Matthew F. Horspool
> >> =3D20
> >> Send me an Electronic Mail to
> >> drjaws@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> =3D20
> >> Add
> >> horspool@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> to your MSN contact list
> >> =3D20
> >> Or Visit my web site at  http://www.horspool.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk
> >> -------------------------
> >>=3D20
> >>=3D20
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D20
> >> [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Chip Orange
> >> Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 4:38 PM
> >> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> Subject: RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re:=3D20
> >> Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0
> >>=3D20
> >>=3D20
> >> Ok,  this is the first opinion which strongly prefers one to=3D20
> >> another for other than subjective reasons, and I appreciate it.
> >>=3D20
> >> Would you say the system you were using when you made the=3D20
> >> switch was unusually slow, short of ram, or overloaded with=3D20
> >> processing tasks?
> >>=3D20
> >> Thanks.
> >>=3D20
> >> Chip
> >>=3D20
> >> =3D3D20
> >>=3D20
> >> > -----Original Message-----
> >> > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D3D20 =3D20
> >> [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]=3D20
> >> >On Behalf Of Horspool, Matthew F.
> >> > Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 11:30 AM
> >> > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > Subject: RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was -=20
> Re:=3D3D20  =3D
> > Bug=3D20
> >> >Fixes in JAWS 6.0 =3D3D20  Used DECtalk ACCESS32 for about a=3D20
> >> year and then=3D20
> >> >switched to a=3D3D20  DECtalk USB for to get better broadcast=3D20
> >> clarity.  I=3D20
> >> >certainly=3D3D20  have noticed a huge difference in=20
> responsiveness:  =3D
> > The=3D20
> >> >DEC=3D3D20  USB is faster - a lot faster!
> >> >=3D3D20
> >> > -------------------------
> >> > Mr. Matthew F. Horspool
> >> > =3D3D20
> >> > Send me an Electronic Mail to
> >> > drjaws@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > =3D3D20
> >> > Add
> >> > horspool@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > to your MSN contact list
> >> > =3D3D20
> >> > Or Visit my web site at  http://www.horspool.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk
> >> > -------------------------
> >> >=3D3D20
> >> >=3D3D20
> >> > -----Original Message-----
> >> > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D3D20
> >> >[mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of John Miller
> >> > Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 4:20 PM
> >> > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > Subject: Re: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was -=20
> Re:=3D3D20  =3D
> > Bug=3D20
> >> >Fixes in JAWS 6.0 =3D3D20 =3D3D20  I don't notice it if so.
> >> > ----- Original Message -----
> >> > From: "Chip Orange" <Corange@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 10:47 AM
> >> > Subject: RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was -=20
> Re:=3D3D20  =3D
> > Bug=3D20
> >> >Fixes in =3D3D20  JAWS 6.0 =3D3D20 =3D3D20
> >> > > Yes; and they do use some processor time.  The=20
> question is that=3D20
> >
> >> > > on=3D3D20 todays systems, which usually have plenty of =3D
> > processor=3D3D20
> >> > speed and RAM,=3D3D20
> >> > > does that really make any difference?
> >> > >
> >> > > Now, I know that it does from reports on AT&T Natural
> >> > > Voices=3D3D20=3D20 specifically, but I was wondering about=20
> Eloquence.
> >> > >
> >> > > Thanks.
> >> > >
> >> > > Chip
> >> > >
> >> > > =3D3D3D20
> >> > >
> >> > >> -----Original Message-----
> >> > >> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D3D3D20 =3D3D20
> >> > [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]=3D3D20
> >> > >>On Behalf Of Flor Lynch
> >> > >> Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2004 9:00 PM
> >> > >> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > >> Subject: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re:=3D3D20
> >> > Bug=3D3D3D20  Fixes
> >> >=3D3D20
> >> > >>in JAWS 6.0 =3D3D3D20
> >> > >> Software synths take up more RAM than hardware ones do.
> >> > >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> > >> From: "Chip Orange" <Corange@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > >> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > >> Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2004 2:22 PM
> >> > >> Subject: RE: Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0
> >> > >>=3D3D3D20
> >> > >>=3D3D3D20
> >> > >> Well, no argument with your first point, it is more=3D3D20
> >> > difficult to have =3D3D20
> >> > >>all of the sound coming out of one source; but, when you=3D3D20
> >> > need to use =3D3D20
> >> > >>headphones so as not to disturb someone else, it's also =3D
> > more=3D3D3D20=3D20
> >> > >>=3D3D20 convenient. =3D3D3D20  As for your second, that =
just=3D20
> >> seems to come=3D20
> >> > >>down to personal=3D3D3D20
> >> =3D3D20
> >> > >>preference  as it doesn't bother me a bit.
> >> > >>=3D3D3D20
> >> > >> There is one which you didn't mention, but which I've=3D3D20
> >> > always wondered =3D3D20
> >> > >>about, and that's how much of a load does Eloquence =
place=3D3D20
> >> > on=3D3D3D20  your=3D3D20
> >> > >>system  by having the software synth as compared to=20
> sending=3D3D20
> >> > the text=3D3D20
> >> > >>to be  spoken out of the serial port?  Anyone have any =
facts=3D20
> >> > >>along=3D3D20 this
> >> > line?
> >> > >>=3D3D3D20
> >> > >> Thanks.
> >> > >>=3D3D3D20
> >> > >> Chip
> >> > >>=3D3D3D20
> >> > >> =3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >>=3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > -----Original Message-----
> >> > >> > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D3D3D3D20=3D3D20
> >> > >> >[mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Kerri
> >> > >> > Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2004 2:04 AM
> >> > >> > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > >> > Subject: Re: Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0 =3D3D3D3D20  Hello=20
>  Chip. I=3D20
> >
> >> > >> >despise software synthesizers mainly=3D3D20
> >> > because=3D3D3D3D20 if=3D3D20
> >> > >> >you are required to listen to other media, I find it=3D20
> >> to=3D3D3D3D20=3D3D20=3D20
> >> > >> >difficult to with a software synthesizer coming through=3D20
> >> the=3D3D3D3D20
> >>=3D20
> >> > >> >=3D3D
> >>=3D20
> >> > >> >same speakers. I also dislike elloquence's voice,=20
> *all of them*
> >> > >> > ----- Original Message -----
> >> > >> > From: "Chip Orange" <Corange@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > >> > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > >> > Sent: Monday, December 27, 2004 12:02 PM
> >> > >> > Subject: RE: Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0 =3D3D3D3D20=20
> =3D3D3D3D20  I'm=3D20
> >> > >> >interested in hearing why, as I use a DT express at=3D3D20
> >> > work,=3D3D3D3D20
> >> >=3D3D20
> >> > >> >and eloquence at home, and really haven't felt there's=3D20
> >> much=3D3D3D3D20
> >>=3D20
> >> > >> >=3D3D
> >>=3D20
> >> > >> >difference.  Perhaps there's just something I'm=3D20
> >> missing? =3D3D3D3D20 =3D20
> >> > >> >Thanks.
> >> > >> >=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > Chip
> >> > >> >=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > =3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> >=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > > -----Original Message-----
> >> > >> > > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D3D3D3D3D20=3D3D20
> >> > >> > >[mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Kerri
> >> > >> > > Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2004 12:17 AM
> >> > >> > > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > >> > > Subject: Re: Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0 =3D3D3D3D3D20 =20
> Chris, I=3D3D20
> >> > vehemently=3D3D20
> >> > >> > >despise software synthesizers hence=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > my=3D3D3D3D3D20  dectalk=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > >use and this is the only version that has been =3D3D
> >> rather=3D3D3D3D3D20=3D3D3D20
> >> > >>  sluggish.
> >> > >> > > ----- Original Message -----
> >> > >> > > From: "Chris Skarstad" <toonhead5@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > >> > > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > >> > > Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2004 4:15 PM
> >> > >> > > Subject: Re: Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0 =3D3D3D3D3D20=20
> =3D3D3D3D3D20 =3D
> > =3D3D20
> >> > man I guess=3D3D20
> >> > >> > >I'm very lucky then. This version actually runs =3D3D3D
> >> > > a=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> =3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > >little faster on my system than 5.10 did. Then =
again=3D3D3D20
> >> > >> I'm=3D3D3D3D3D20  using
> >> > >> =3D3D3D3D
> >> > >> a=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > >hardware synthesizer which is probably the=3D20
> >> reason.=3D3D3D3D3D20  =3D3D3D
> >> > > Never=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > did like=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > >software speech and never will based on =
what=3D3D3D3D3D20=3D20
> >>  I've=3D3D3D20
> >> > >> seen.  By the
> >> > >> =3D3D3D3D
> >> > >>=3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > >way, the murge feature is there. go to=3D3D3D3D3D20  =
your=3D20
> >> jaws=3D3D3D20
> >> > >> window with =3D3D3D3D
> >> > >> alt=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > >plus j, press alt u for utilities,=3D3D3D3D3D20  and it's =
=3D
> > in=3D3D3D20
> >> > >> there. or simply
> >> > >> =3D3D3D3D
> >> > >>=3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > >bring up the context menu if=3D3D3D3D3D20  you're =
running=3D20
> >> jaws in =3D3D
> >> =3D3D3D
> >> > > the=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > system tray=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > >and go to utilities=3D3D3D3D3D20  and the murge =
utility=3D20
> >> is there.=3D3D20
> >>=3D20
> >> > >> > >=3D3D3D3D3D20  At 04:29 PM 12/21/2004, you wrote:
> >> > >> > > >Hay, you mean, they haven't fixed any right? I'm=3D3D20
> >> > sorry, I=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > > just couldn't=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > > >resist. In truth, this has been the worst version =3D
> > I've=3D3D3D20
> >> > >> had the=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> =3D3D3D3D
> >> > >>=3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > > >misfortune to deal with in a long while. It runs=3D3D3D20
> >> > >> terribley slow,=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > > >I'm=3D3D3D3D3D20 getting false attachments, no merge=3D20
> >> feature=3D3D3D20
> >> > >> anywhere. I=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > > >love=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > > spending=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > > >money on this "improved" product. Sorry, I'm=20
> being a grinch.
> >> > >> > > >----- Original Message -----
> >> > >> > > >From: "RJ" <rjf1@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > >> > > >To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > >> > > >Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2004 2:16 PM
> >> > >> > > >Subject: Re: Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0
> >> > >> > > >
> >> > >> > > >
> >> > >> > > >You are looking right, there just isn't any bugs.=3D3D20
> >> > Smiling here.
> >> > >> > > >----- Original Message -----
> >> > >> > > >From: "Margaret Thomas" <iluvtoread@xxxxxxx>
> >> > >> > > >To: "jfw" <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > >> > > >Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2004 4:15 PM
> >> > >> > > >Subject: Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0
> >> > >> > > >
> >> > >> > > >
> >> > >> > > > > Good Afternoon,
> >> > >> > > > >
> >> > >> > > > >     I had a migraine when JAWS 6.0 was released =3D
> > and=3D3D3D20
> >> > >> am trying=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > > > > to=3D3D3D3D3D20 catch up with list mail before=3D3D20
> >> > installing the new =3D3D3D
> >> > > =3D3D3D3D
> >> > >> release.
> >> > >> > > > >
> >> > >> > > > >     I've looked over the What's New section for
> >> > >> > > > > 6.0=3D3D20=3D20 and=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > > could swear=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > > > > that there used to be a section on bug fixes,=20
> but I'm =3D
> > =3D3D3D
> >> > > not=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > > finding it=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > > > > for this version.  Am I having another senior=20
> moment, =3D
> > =3D3D3D
> >> > > or=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > > did FS not=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > > > > do it this time, or am I looking in the wrong=3D3D20
> >> > place on=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > > the FS site? =3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > > > > I've been looking at:
> >> > >> > > > >
> >> > >> > > > >
> >> > >> > >=3D20
> >> >http://www.freedomscientific.com/fs_products/software_jaws60f
> >> > >> > > ea.asp#JAW
> >> > >> > > >S_Features
> >> > >> > > > >
> >> > >> > > > >     Thanks,
> >> > >> > > > > Margaret
> >> > >> > > > > iluvtoread@xxxxxxx
> >> > >> > > > >
> >> > >> > > > > --
> >> > >> > > > > To post a message to the list, send it to=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To=3D3D3D3D3D20=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > > > > unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to
> >> > >> > > >jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe
> >> > >> > > >in=3D3D20=3D20 the=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > > subject line.
> >> > >> > > > > Archives located at:=3D20
> >> //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
> >> > >> > > > >
> >> > >> > > > > If you have any concerns about the list, post =3D3D
> >> received=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > from the=3D3D3D3D3D20=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >> > > > > list, or
> >> > >> > > >the way the list is being run, do not post them to
> >> > >> > > >the=3D3D20=3D20 list.=3D3D3D3D20 Rather=3D3D3D3D3D20 =
contact the
> >> > >> > > >list owner =3D
> > at=3D3D20=3D20
> >> > >> > > >jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > >> > > > >
> >> > >> > > >
> >> > >> > > >--
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> > ------------------------------
> >
> > From: <ptusing@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Subject: Re: Oe hotkey won't work in jaws 6.
> > Date: Thu, 30 Dec 2004 12:05:44 -0500
> >
> > Hi,  Walter,
> > The  "alt grave"  hot key is onet hing in  Outlook=20
> Expressthat doesw ork=20
> > for
> > me with JAWS 6.
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----=20
> > From: "Walter Siren" <wsiren@xxxxxxx>
> > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 11:19 AM
> > Subject: Oe hotkey won't work in jaws 6.
> >
> >
> >> I recently found a hotkey for OE.  This key is alt+grave,=20
> this hotkey
> > allows one to skip from the to field in  a message
> >> to the message body.  With jaws 6 however, it doesn't=20
> work.  Has anybody
> > else ran across this.
> >> Walter Siren
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Horspool, Matthew F." <drjaws@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 10:04 AM
> >> Subject: RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was -=20
> Re: Bug Fixes in
> > JAWS 6.0
> >>
> >>
> >> > I'm using a 2.53 GHz processor.  I think the other=20
> figure was from an
> >> > old laptop.
> >> > -------------------------
> >> > Mr. Matthew F. Horspool
> >> >
> >> > Send me an Electronic Mail to
> >> > drjaws@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> >
> >> > Add
> >> > horspool@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > to your MSN contact list
> >> >
> >> > Or Visit my web site at
> >> > http://www.horspool.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk
> >> > -------------------------
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > -----Original Message-----
> >> > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=20
> [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> >> > Behalf Of david poehlman
> >> > Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 3:23 PM
> >> > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > Subject: Re: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was -=20
> Re: Bug Fixes=20
> >> > in
> >> > JAWS 6.0
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > What do you get then when you look at system in controll panel?
> >> >
> >> > Johnnie Apple Seed
> >> >
> >> > ----- Original Message -----
> >> > From: "Horspool, Matthew F." <drjaws@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 10:13 AM
> >> > Subject: RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was -=20
> Re: Bug Fixes=20
> >> > in
> >> >
> >> > JAWS 6.0
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Right.  I used the System Information tool and saved in=20
> plain text.
> >> >
> >> > -------------------------
> >> > Mr. Matthew F. Horspool
> >> >
> >> > Send me an Electronic Mail to
> >> > drjaws@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> >
> >> > Add
> >> > horspool@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > to your MSN contact list
> >> >
> >> > Or Visit my web site at http://www.horspool.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk
> >> > -------------------------
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > -----Original Message-----
> >> > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=20
> [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> >> > Behalf Of david poehlman
> >> > Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 3:11 PM
> >> > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > Subject: Re: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was -=20
> Re: Bug Fixes=20
> >> > in
> >> > JAWS 6.0
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > matt,
> >> >
> >> > If you go to control panel, open system and read with=20
> the jaws cursor=20
> >> > or
> >> >
> >> > ins+b, you are told in plain english what system you=20
> have.  I'm not=20
> >> > sure
> >> > what you are running to get the result you have below,=20
> but thought this
> >> > might help.
> >> >
> >> > Johnnie Apple Seed
> >> >
> >> > ----- Original Message -----
> >> > From: "Horspool, Matthew F." <drjaws@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 3:26 AM
> >> > Subject: RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was -=20
> Re: Bug Fixes=20
> >> > in
> >> >
> >> > JAWS 6.0
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > OK, I thought I got it right, but when I interrogated=20
> the system this
> >> > line came up:
> >> > Processor: x86 Family 15 Model 2 Stepping 7 GenuineIntel=20
> ~2532 MhZ
> >> >
> >> > If I interpreted this line correctly I have a 2532MhZ processor!
> >> >
> >> > -------------------------
> >> > Mr. Matthew F. Horspool
> >> >
> >> > Send me an Electronic Mail to
> >> > drjaws@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> >
> >> > Add
> >> > horspool@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > to your MSN contact list
> >> >
> >> > Or Visit my web site at http://www.horspool.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk
> >> > -------------------------
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > -----Original Message-----
> >> > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=20
> [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> >> > Behalf Of Chip Orange
> >> > Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 5:13 PM
> >> > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > Subject: RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was -=20
> Re: Bug Fixes=20
> >> > in
> >> > JAWS 6.0
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > If you got that right (and it's not a typo) and your=20
> processor speed=20
> >> > was
> >> > only 256 mhz, then I could see why switching to a=20
> hardware synthesizer
> >> > had such an improvement for you.  That was quite a load for your=20
> >> > system.
> >> >
> >> > Chip
> >> >
> >> > =3D20
> >> >
> >> > > -----Original Message-----
> >> > > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D20 =20
> [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> >> > >On Behalf Of Horspool, Matthew F.
> >> > > Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 12:05 PM
> >> > > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > > Subject: RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was=20
> - Re:=3D20  Bug
> >> > >Fixes in JAWS 6.0 =3D20  Well I had 512MB RAM and about 256MHZ
> >> > >Processors.  Running at=3D20  once I had a copy of WinAmp=20
> with the Audio
> >> > >stocker and=3D20  SHOUTcast plugin, Microsoft Outlook,=20
> SHOUTcast DNAS
> >> > >(GUI),=3D20  BVentrilo and the Ventrilo Server, and a copy of =
JFW.
> >> > >This=3D20  slowed down the system quite a bit. =3D20
> >> > > -------------------------
> >> > > Mr. Matthew F. Horspool
> >> > > =3D20
> >> > > Send me an Electronic Mail to
> >> > > drjaws@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > > =3D20
> >> > > Add
> >> > > horspool@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > > to your MSN contact list
> >> > > =3D20
> >> > > Or Visit my web site at
> >> > > http://www.horspool.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk
> >> > > -------------------------
> >> > >=3D20
> >> > >=3D20
> >> > > -----Original Message-----
> >> > > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D20
> >> > > [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Chip Orange
> >> > > Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 4:38 PM
> >> > > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > > Subject: RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - =
Re:=3D20
> >> > > Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0
> >> > >=3D20
> >> > >=3D20
> >> > > Ok,  this is the first opinion which strongly prefers one =
to=3D20
> >> > > another for other than subjective reasons, and I appreciate it.
> >> > >=3D20
> >> > > Would you say the system you were using when you made the=3D20
> >> > > switch was unusually slow, short of ram, or overloaded =
with=3D20
> >> > > processing tasks?
> >> > >=3D20
> >> > > Thanks.
> >> > >=3D20
> >> > > Chip
> >> > >=3D20
> >> > > =3D3D20
> >> > >=3D20
> >> > > > -----Original Message-----
> >> > > > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D3D20 =3D20
> >> > > [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]=3D20
> >> > > >On Behalf Of Horspool, Matthew F.
> >> > > > Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 11:30 AM
> >> > > > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > > > Subject: RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers -=20
> was - Re:=3D3D20  =3D
> >> > Bug=3D20
> >> > > >Fixes in JAWS 6.0 =3D3D20  Used DECtalk ACCESS32 for about =
a=3D20
> >> > > year and then=3D20
> >> > > >switched to a=3D3D20  DECtalk USB for to get better =
broadcast=3D20
> >> > > clarity.  I=3D20
> >> > > >certainly=3D3D20  have noticed a huge difference in=20
> responsiveness:  =3D
> >> > The=3D20
> >> > > >DEC=3D3D20  USB is faster - a lot faster!
> >> > > >=3D3D20
> >> > > > -------------------------
> >> > > > Mr. Matthew F. Horspool
> >> > > > =3D3D20
> >> > > > Send me an Electronic Mail to
> >> > > > drjaws@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > > > =3D3D20
> >> > > > Add
> >> > > > horspool@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > > > to your MSN contact list
> >> > > > =3D3D20
> >> > > > Or Visit my web site at =20
> http://www.horspool.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk
> >> > > > -------------------------
> >> > > >=3D3D20
> >> > > >=3D3D20
> >> > > > -----Original Message-----
> >> > > > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D3D20
> >> > > >[mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of John Miller
> >> > > > Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 4:20 PM
> >> > > > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > > > Subject: Re: software vs. hardware synthesizers -=20
> was - Re:=3D3D20  =3D
> >> > Bug=3D20
> >> > > >Fixes in JAWS 6.0 =3D3D20 =3D3D20  I don't notice it if so.
> >> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> >> > > > From: "Chip Orange" <Corange@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > > > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > > > Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 10:47 AM
> >> > > > Subject: RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers -=20
> was - Re:=3D3D20  =3D
> >> > Bug=3D20
> >> > > >Fixes in =3D3D20  JAWS 6.0 =3D3D20 =3D3D20
> >> > > > > Yes; and they do use some processor time.  The question is=20
> >> > > > > that=3D20
> >> >
> >> > > > > on=3D3D20 todays systems, which usually have plenty of =3D
> >> > processor=3D3D20
> >> > > > speed and RAM,=3D3D20
> >> > > > > does that really make any difference?
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > Now, I know that it does from reports on AT&T Natural
> >> > > > > Voices=3D3D20=3D20 specifically, but I was wondering=20
> about Eloquence.
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > Thanks.
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > Chip
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > =3D3D3D20
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >> -----Original Message-----
> >> > > > >> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D3D3D20 =3D3D20
> >> > > > [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]=3D3D20
> >> > > > >>On Behalf Of Flor Lynch
> >> > > > >> Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2004 9:00 PM
> >> > > > >> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > > > >> Subject: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was=20
> - Re:=3D3D20
> >> > > > Bug=3D3D3D20  Fixes
> >> > > >=3D3D20
> >> > > > >>in JAWS 6.0 =3D3D3D20
> >> > > > >> Software synths take up more RAM than hardware ones do.
> >> > > > >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> > > > >> From: "Chip Orange" <Corange@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > > > >> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > > > >> Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2004 2:22 PM
> >> > > > >> Subject: RE: Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0
> >> > > > >>=3D3D3D20
> >> > > > >>=3D3D3D20
> >> > > > >> Well, no argument with your first point, it is more=3D3D20
> >> > > > difficult to have =3D3D20
> >> > > > >>all of the sound coming out of one source; but,=20
> when you=3D3D20
> >> > > > need to use =3D3D20
> >> > > > >>headphones so as not to disturb someone else, it's also =3D
> >> > more=3D3D3D20=3D20
> >> > > > >>=3D3D20 convenient. =3D3D3D20  As for your second, that =
just=3D20
> >> > > seems to come=3D20
> >> > > > >>down to personal=3D3D3D20
> >> > > =3D3D20
> >> > > > >>preference  as it doesn't bother me a bit.
> >> > > > >>=3D3D3D20
> >> > > > >> There is one which you didn't mention, but which =
I've=3D3D20
> >> > > > always wondered =3D3D20
> >> > > > >>about, and that's how much of a load does=20
> Eloquence place=3D3D20
> >> > > > on=3D3D3D20  your=3D3D20
> >> > > > >>system  by having the software synth as compared=20
> to sending=3D3D20
> >> > > > the text=3D3D20
> >> > > > >>to be  spoken out of the serial port?  Anyone have=20
> any facts=3D20
> >> > > > >>along=3D3D20 this
> >> > > > line?
> >> > > > >>=3D3D3D20
> >> > > > >> Thanks.
> >> > > > >>=3D3D3D20
> >> > > > >> Chip
> >> > > > >>=3D3D3D20
> >> > > > >> =3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > >>=3D3D3D20
> >> > > > >> > -----Original Message-----
> >> > > > >> > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D3D3D3D20=3D3D20
> >> > > > >> >[mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Kerri
> >> > > > >> > Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2004 2:04 AM
> >> > > > >> > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > > > >> > Subject: Re: Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0 =3D3D3D3D20 =20
> Hello  Chip.=20
> >> > > > >> > I=3D20
> >> >
> >> > > > >> >despise software synthesizers mainly=3D3D20
> >> > > > because=3D3D3D3D20 if=3D3D20
> >> > > > >> >you are required to listen to other media, I find it=3D20
> >> > > to=3D3D3D3D20=3D3D20=3D20
> >> > > > >> >difficult to with a software synthesizer coming=20
> through=3D20
> >> > > the=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >=3D20
> >> > > > >> >=3D3D
> >> > >=3D20
> >> > > > >> >same speakers. I also dislike elloquence's=20
> voice, *all of them*
> >> > > > >> > ----- Original Message -----
> >> > > > >> > From: "Chip Orange" <Corange@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > > > >> > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > > > >> > Sent: Monday, December 27, 2004 12:02 PM
> >> > > > >> > Subject: RE: Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0 =3D3D3D3D20=20
> =3D3D3D3D20  I'm=3D20
> >> > > > >> >interested in hearing why, as I use a DT express =
at=3D3D20
> >> > > > work,=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >=3D3D20
> >> > > > >> >and eloquence at home, and really haven't felt =
there's=3D20
> >> > > much=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >=3D20
> >> > > > >> >=3D3D
> >> > >=3D20
> >> > > > >> >difference.  Perhaps there's just something I'm=3D20
> >> > > missing? =3D3D3D3D20 =3D20
> >> > > > >> >Thanks.
> >> > > > >> >=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > >> > Chip
> >> > > > >> >=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > >> > =3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > >> >=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > >> > > -----Original Message-----
> >> > > > >> > > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D3D3D3D3D20=3D3D20
> >> > > > >> > >[mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Kerri
> >> > > > >> > > Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2004 12:17 AM
> >> > > > >> > > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > > > >> > > Subject: Re: Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0=20
> =3D3D3D3D3D20  Chris,=20
> >> > > > >> > > I=3D3D20
> >> > > > vehemently=3D3D20
> >> > > > >> > >despise software synthesizers hence=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > >> > my=3D3D3D3D3D20  dectalk=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > >> > >use and this is the only version that has been =3D3D
> >> > > rather=3D3D3D3D3D20=3D3D3D20
> >> > > > >>  sluggish.
> >> > > > >> > > ----- Original Message -----
> >> > > > >> > > From: "Chris Skarstad" <toonhead5@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > > > >> > > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > > > >> > > Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2004 4:15 PM
> >> > > > >> > > Subject: Re: Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0=20
> =3D3D3D3D3D20 =3D3D3D3D3D20 =3D
> >> > =3D3D20
> >> > > > man I guess=3D3D20
> >> > > > >> > >I'm very lucky then. This version actually runs =3D3D3D
> >> > > > > a=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > >> =3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > >> > >little faster on my system than 5.10 did. Then=20
> again=3D3D3D20
> >> > > > >> I'm=3D3D3D3D3D20  using
> >> > > > >> =3D3D3D3D
> >> > > > >> a=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > >> > >hardware synthesizer which is probably the=3D20
> >> > > reason.=3D3D3D3D3D20  =3D3D3D
> >> > > > > Never=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > >> > did like=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > >> > >software speech and never will based on=20
> what=3D3D3D3D3D20=3D20
> >> > >  I've=3D3D3D20
> >> > > > >> seen.  By the
> >> > > > >> =3D3D3D3D
> >> > > > >>=3D3D3D20
> >> > > > >> > >way, the murge feature is there. go=20
> to=3D3D3D3D3D20  your=3D20
> >> > > jaws=3D3D3D20
> >> > > > >> window with =3D3D3D3D
> >> > > > >> alt=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > >> > >plus j, press alt u for utilities,=3D3D3D3D3D20 =20
> and it's =3D
> >> > in=3D3D3D20
> >> > > > >> there. or simply
> >> > > > >> =3D3D3D3D
> >> > > > >>=3D3D3D20
> >> > > > >> > >bring up the context menu if=3D3D3D3D3D20 =20
> you're running=3D20
> >> > > jaws in =3D3D
> >> > > =3D3D3D
> >> > > > > the=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > >> > system tray=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > >> > >and go to utilities=3D3D3D3D3D20  and the murge=20
> utility=3D20
> >> > > is there.=3D3D20
> >> > >=3D20
> >> > > > >> > >=3D3D3D3D3D20  At 04:29 PM 12/21/2004, you wrote:
> >> > > > >> > > >Hay, you mean, they haven't fixed any right? =
I'm=3D3D20
> >> > > > sorry, I=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > >> > > just couldn't=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > >> > > >resist. In truth, this has been the worst version =3D
> >> > I've=3D3D3D20
> >> > > > >> had the=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > >> =3D3D3D3D
> >> > > > >>=3D3D3D20
> >> > > > >> > > >misfortune to deal with in a long while. It=20
> runs=3D3D3D20
> >> > > > >> terribley slow,=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > >> > > >I'm=3D3D3D3D3D20 getting false attachments, no =
merge=3D20
> >> > > feature=3D3D3D20
> >> > > > >> anywhere. I=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > >> > > >love=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > >> > > spending=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > >> > > >money on this "improved" product. Sorry, I'm being a=20
> >> > > > >> > > >grinch.
> >> > > > >> > > >----- Original Message -----
> >> > > > >> > > >From: "RJ" <rjf1@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > > > >> > > >To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > > > >> > > >Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2004 2:16 PM
> >> > > > >> > > >Subject: Re: Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0
> >> > > > >> > > >
> >> > > > >> > > >
> >> > > > >> > > >You are looking right, there just isn't any=20
> bugs.=3D3D20
> >> > > > Smiling here.
> >> > > > >> > > >----- Original Message -----
> >> > > > >> > > >From: "Margaret Thomas" <iluvtoread@xxxxxxx>
> >> > > > >> > > >To: "jfw" <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > > > >> > > >Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2004 4:15 PM
> >> > > > >> > > >Subject: Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0
> >> > > > >> > > >
> >> > > > >> > > >
> >> > > > >> > > > > Good Afternoon,
> >> > > > >> > > > >
> >> > > > >> > > > >     I had a migraine when JAWS 6.0 was released =
=3D
> >> > and=3D3D3D20
> >> > > > >> am trying=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > >> > > > > to=3D3D3D3D3D20 catch up with list mail =
before=3D3D20
> >> > > > installing the new =3D3D3D
> >> > > > > =3D3D3D3D
> >> > > > >> release.
> >> > > > >> > > > >
> >> > > > >> > > > >     I've looked over the What's New section for
> >> > > > >> > > > > 6.0=3D3D20=3D20 and=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > >> > > could swear=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > >> > > > > that there used to be a section on bug=20
> fixes, but I'm =3D
> >> > =3D3D3D
> >> > > > > not=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > >> > > finding it=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > >> > > > > for this version.  Am I having another=20
> senior moment, =3D
> >> > =3D3D3D
> >> > > > > or=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > >> > > did FS not=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > >> > > > > do it this time, or am I looking in the =
wrong=3D3D20
> >> > > > place on=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > >> > > the FS site? =3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > >> > > > > I've been looking at:
> >> > > > >> > > > >
> >> > > > >> > > > >
> >> > > > >> > >=3D20
> >> > > >http://www.freedomscientific.com/fs_products/software_jaws60f
> >> > > > >> > > ea.asp#JAW
> >> > > > >> > > >S_Features
> >> > > > >> > > > >
> >> > > > >> > > > >     Thanks,
> >> > > > >> > > > > Margaret
> >> > > > >> > > > > iluvtoread@xxxxxxx
> >> > > > >> > > > >
> >> > > > >> > > > > --
> >> > > > >> > > > > To post a message to the list, send it =
to=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > >> > jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To=3D3D3D3D3D20=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > >> > > > > unsubscribe from this mailing list, send=20
> a message to
> >> > > > >> > > >jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe
> >> > > > >> > > >in=3D3D20=3D20 the=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > >> > > subject line.
> >> > > > >> > > > > Archives located at:=3D20
> >> > > //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
> >> > > > >> > > > >
> >> > > > >> > > > > If you have any concerns about the list, post =
=3D3D
> >> > > received=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > >> > from the=3D3D3D3D3D20=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > >> > > > > list, or
> >> > > > >> > > >the way the list is being run, do not post them to
> >> > > > >> > > >the=3D3D20=3D20 list.=3D3D3D3D20 Rather=3D3D3D3D3D20=20
> contact the
> >> > > > >> > > >list owner =3D
> >> > at=3D3D20=3D20
> >> > > > >> > > >jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > > > >> > > > >
> >> > > > >> > > >
> >> > > > >> > > >--
> >> > > > >> > > >To post a message to the list, send it to=3D3D3D20
> >> > > > >> jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > >> =3D3D3D3D
> >> > > > >>=3D3D3D20
> >> > > > >> > > >unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a=20
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> >> > > > >> > > >to=3D3D3D3D3D20=3D3D3D3D20=20
> jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with=3D20
> >> > > the word=3D3D20=3D20
> >> > > > >> > > >unsubscribe in the=3D3D3D3D3D20
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> >> > > > >> > > >Archives located at:=20
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> >> > > > >> > > >If you have any concerns about the list,=20
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> >> > > > >> > > >=3D3D3D
> >> > > > > from=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > >> > > the list,=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > >> > > >or the way the list is being run, do not=20
> post them to=3D3D20
> >> > > > the=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > >> > > list. Rather=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > >> > > >contact the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > > > >> > > >
> >> > > > >> > > >
> >> > > > >> > > >--
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> >> > > > >> > 12/21/2004
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> >> > > > >> > > >--
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> > ------------------------------
> >
> > From: "chevelle" <chevelle33@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Subject: Re: sounds manager
> > Date: Thu, 30 Dec 2004 12:07:44 -0500
> >
> > Listen, you did the same thing to me when I explained something to=20
> > someone.
> > I said go to basics. You sent a stupid post saying where is=20
> the baics?=20
> > when
> > you knew darned well where the baics is so don't talk about=20
> wasting time,
> > and what is off topic. You can dish it out, but you can't=20
> take it can you!
> > ----- Original Message -----=20
> > From: "david poehlman" <david.poehlman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 9:59 AM
> > Subject: Re: sounds manager
> >
> >
> >> then they should ask. this is getting off topic.  If you=20
> have a problem
> >> with
> >> something I post, I suggest you write me privately and=20
> perhaps we can
> >> streighten it out.  I use correct terminology in my posts.=20
>  If people=20
> >> need
> >> more specificis, I am happy to furnish them but if people=20
> just want to
> >> waste
> >> time, I can do that too.
> >>
> >> Johnnie Apple Seed
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----=20
> >> From: "chevelle" <chevelle33@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 9:02 AM
> >> Subject: Re: sounds manager
> >>
> >>
> >> YOu didn't tell them how to open the default manager.=20
> Maybe they dont=20
> >> know
> >> how to do that.
> >> ----- Original Message -----=20
> >> From: "david poehlman" <david.poehlman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 8:44 PM
> >> Subject: Re: sounds manager
> >>
> >>
> >>>I told someone to open default configuration manager.
> >>>
> >>> Johnnie Apple Seed
> >>>
> >>> ----- Original Message -----=20
> >>> From: "chevelle" <chevelle33@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>> Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 8:33 PM
> >>> Subject: Re: sounds manager
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Look at your won post. You told someone to choose=20
> default. How! do! you!
> >>> choose! the default!
> >>> ----- Original Message -----=20
> >>> From: "david poehlman" <david.poehlman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>> Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 8:22 PM
> >>> Subject: Re: sounds manager
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> what default?
> >>>>
> >>>> Johnnie Apple Seed
> >>>>
> >>>> ----- Original Message -----=20
> >>>> From: "chevelle" <chevelle33@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 8:19 PM
> >>>> Subject: Re: sounds manager
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> That doesn't explain how you choose the default.
> >>>> ----- Original Message -----=20
> >>>> From: "david poehlman" <david.poehlman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 7:50 PM
> >>>> Subject: Re: sounds manager
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> default is classic.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Johnnie Apple Seed
> >>>>>
> >>>>> ----- Original Message -----=20
> >>>>> From: "chevelle" <chevelle33@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>>>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 7:36 PM
> >>>>> Subject: Re: sounds manager
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> How do you choose the default, and how do you get to=20
> the speech and
> >>>>> sounds
> >>>>> manager?
> >>>>> ----- Original Message -----=20
> >>>>> From: "david poehlman" <david.poehlman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>>>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 6:26 PM
> >>>>> Subject: Re: sounds manager
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> speech and sounds manager is simple but there are a=20
> lot of choices to
> >>>>>> make
> >>>>>> or to choose from among.  You must look through it and=20
> figure out=20
> >>>>>> what
> >>>>>> yu
> >>>>>> want to do.  It is not hard to do any of it and you=20
> must also choose
> >>>>>> the
> >>>>>> app
> >>>>>> you intend to work with.  Choose default if you wish=20
> by opening the
> >>>>>> default
> >>>>>> configuration manager and choosing speech and sounds=20
> manager and
> >>>>>> opening
> >>>>>> it
> >>>>>> up, click edit scheme button and press space, the=20
> first tab is the
> >>>>>> general
> >>>>>> tab and you can leave the description the way it is,=20
> ctrl+tab to the
> >>>>>> other
> >>>>>> pages and look through the options and things you can=20
> ghance and
> >>>>>> decide
> >>>>>> what
> >>>>>> to change.  If you want to change the way a slider sounds for
> >>>>>> instance,
> >>>>>> go
> >>>>>> to the bottom of the list on the first page and then=20
> tab to the group
> >>>>>> of
> >>>>>> four radio buttons and select the one you want the=20
> bahavior for.=20
> >>>>>> Play
> >>>>>> sound
> >>>>>> is at the bottom, and for that, you must choose a wav=20
> file with the
> >>>>>> next
> >>>>>> button in tab order.  Once yu are done with the=20
> settings, click ok=20
> >>>>>> and
> >>>>>> ok
> >>>>>> again if need be, close and save.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Johnnie Apple Seed
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> ----- Original Message -----=20
> >>>>>> From: <ptusing@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>>>>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 5:40 PM
> >>>>>> Subject: sounds manager
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Hi,
> >>>>>> Could some one for the sake of argument go through=20
> like  the  steps=20
> >>>>>> in
> >>>>>> order
> >>>>>> for setting the sounds  manager to put a sound on to let's say
> >>>>>> something useful.
> >>>>>> Thanks.
> >>>>>> I was looking for this info as in sounds manager  in=20
> the JAWS  6 help
> >>>>>> topics.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
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> > ------------------------------
> >
> > From: "Catherine Turner" <catherineturner2000@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Subject: RE: Jaws reading bold type?
> > Date: Thu, 30 Dec 2004 17:08:22 -0000
> >
> > Hi Andrew,
> >
> > Are you asking how to get Adobe to put something in bold,=20
> or how to get=20
> > JAWS
> > to detect bold?
> >
> > Catherine
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On
> >> Behalf Of Andrew J. LaPointe
> >> Sent: 29 December 2004 02:37
> >> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> Subject: Jaws reading bold type?
> >>
> >>
> >> Hi, I am using pdf majic with jaws and having the pdf converted
> >> to ms word.
> >> My question is does anyone know if jaws will read=20
> something that is bold
> >> typed?  If so, how do I set this up.  Thank you in advance.  Andy.
> >>
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> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > From: "david poehlman" <david.poehlman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Subject: Re: sounds manager
> > Date: Thu, 30 Dec 2004 12:29:10 -0500
> >
> > I asked whre is basics because there is no basics.  it is=20
> called basic.
> > This is different than me telling someone to do something=20
> they can do.
> >
> > This is the end of what I will say on the list on this topic.
> >
> > Johnnie Apple Seed
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----=20
> > From: "chevelle" <chevelle33@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 12:07 PM
> > Subject: Re: sounds manager
> >
> >
> > Listen, you did the same thing to me when I explained something to=20
> > someone.
> > I said go to basics. You sent a stupid post saying where is=20
> the baics?=20
> > when
> > you knew darned well where the baics is so don't talk about=20
> wasting time,
> > and what is off topic. You can dish it out, but you can't=20
> take it can you!
> > ----- Original Message -----=20
> > From: "david poehlman" <david.poehlman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 9:59 AM
> > Subject: Re: sounds manager
> >
> >
> >> then they should ask. this is getting off topic.  If you=20
> have a problem
> >> with
> >> something I post, I suggest you write me privately and=20
> perhaps we can
> >> streighten it out.  I use correct terminology in my posts.=20
>  If people=20
> >> need
> >> more specificis, I am happy to furnish them but if people=20
> just want to
> >> waste
> >> time, I can do that too.
> >>
> >> Johnnie Apple Seed
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----=20
> >> From: "chevelle" <chevelle33@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 9:02 AM
> >> Subject: Re: sounds manager
> >>
> >>
> >> YOu didn't tell them how to open the default manager.=20
> Maybe they dont=20
> >> know
> >> how to do that.
> >> ----- Original Message -----=20
> >> From: "david poehlman" <david.poehlman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 8:44 PM
> >> Subject: Re: sounds manager
> >>
> >>
> >>>I told someone to open default configuration manager.
> >>>
> >>> Johnnie Apple Seed
> >>>
> >>> ----- Original Message -----=20
> >>> From: "chevelle" <chevelle33@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>> Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 8:33 PM
> >>> Subject: Re: sounds manager
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Look at your won post. You told someone to choose=20
> default. How! do! you!
> >>> choose! the default!
> >>> ----- Original Message -----=20
> >>> From: "david poehlman" <david.poehlman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>> Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 8:22 PM
> >>> Subject: Re: sounds manager
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> what default?
> >>>>
> >>>> Johnnie Apple Seed
> >>>>
> >>>> ----- Original Message -----=20
> >>>> From: "chevelle" <chevelle33@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 8:19 PM
> >>>> Subject: Re: sounds manager
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> That doesn't explain how you choose the default.
> >>>> ----- Original Message -----=20
> >>>> From: "david poehlman" <david.poehlman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 7:50 PM
> >>>> Subject: Re: sounds manager
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> default is classic.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Johnnie Apple Seed
> >>>>>
> >>>>> ----- Original Message -----=20
> >>>>> From: "chevelle" <chevelle33@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>>>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 7:36 PM
> >>>>> Subject: Re: sounds manager
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> How do you choose the default, and how do you get to=20
> the speech and
> >>>>> sounds
> >>>>> manager?
> >>>>> ----- Original Message -----=20
> >>>>> From: "david poehlman" <david.poehlman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>>>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 6:26 PM
> >>>>> Subject: Re: sounds manager
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> speech and sounds manager is simple but there are a=20
> lot of choices to
> >>>>>> make
> >>>>>> or to choose from among.  You must look through it and=20
> figure out=20
> >>>>>> what
> >>>>>> yu
> >>>>>> want to do.  It is not hard to do any of it and you=20
> must also choose
> >>>>>> the
> >>>>>> app
> >>>>>> you intend to work with.  Choose default if you wish=20
> by opening the
> >>>>>> default
> >>>>>> configuration manager and choosing speech and sounds=20
> manager and
> >>>>>> opening
> >>>>>> it
> >>>>>> up, click edit scheme button and press space, the=20
> first tab is the
> >>>>>> general
> >>>>>> tab and you can leave the description the way it is,=20
> ctrl+tab to the
> >>>>>> other
> >>>>>> pages and look through the options and things you can=20
> ghance and
> >>>>>> decide
> >>>>>> what
> >>>>>> to change.  If you want to change the way a slider sounds for
> >>>>>> instance,
> >>>>>> go
> >>>>>> to the bottom of the list on the first page and then=20
> tab to the group
> >>>>>> of
> >>>>>> four radio buttons and select the one you want the=20
> bahavior for.=20
> >>>>>> Play
> >>>>>> sound
> >>>>>> is at the bottom, and for that, you must choose a wav=20
> file with the
> >>>>>> next
> >>>>>> button in tab order.  Once yu are done with the=20
> settings, click ok=20
> >>>>>> and
> >>>>>> ok
> >>>>>> again if need be, close and save.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Johnnie Apple Seed
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> ----- Original Message -----=20
> >>>>>> From: <ptusing@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>>>>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 5:40 PM
> >>>>>> Subject: sounds manager
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Hi,
> >>>>>> Could some one for the sake of argument go through=20
> like  the  steps=20
> >>>>>> in
> >>>>>> order
> >>>>>> for setting the sounds  manager to put a sound on to let's say
> >>>>>> something useful.
> >>>>>> Thanks.
> >>>>>> I was looking for this info as in sounds manager  in=20
> the JAWS  6 help
> >>>>>> topics.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> --
> >>>>>> To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to
> >>>>>> jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in=20
> the subject
> >>>>>> line.
> >>>>>> Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> If you have any concerns about the list, post received=20
> from the list,
> >>>>>> or
> >>>>>> the
> >>>>>> way the list is being run, do not post them to the list. Rather
> >>>>>> contact
> >>>>>> the
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> >>>>>>
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> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Subject: RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re:=20
> Bug Fixes in=20
> > JAWS 6
> > Date: Thu, 30 Dec 2004 12:44:05 -0500
> > From: "Chip Orange" <Corange@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >
> > Ok, then I'm surprised to hear that you could detect any=20
> difference in
> > responsiveness speed between software and hardware=20
> synthesizers (always
> > excluding natural voices from this discussion of course).
> >
> > =3D20
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D20
> >> [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Horspool, Matthew F.
> >> Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 11:05 AM
> >> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> Subject: RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re:=3D20
> >> Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0
> >>=3D20
> >> I'm using a 2.53 GHz processor.  I think the other figure was=3D20
> >> from an old laptop.
> >> -------------------------
> >> Mr. Matthew F. Horspool
> >> =3D20
> >> Send me an Electronic Mail to
> >> drjaws@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> =3D20
> >> Add
> >> horspool@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> to your MSN contact list
> >> =3D20
> >> Or Visit my web site at
> >> http://www.horspool.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk
> >> -------------------------
> >>=3D20
> >>=3D20
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D20
> >> [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of david poehlman
> >> Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 3:23 PM
> >> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> Subject: Re: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re:=3D20
> >> Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0
> >>=3D20
> >>=3D20
> >> What do you get then when you look at system in controll panel?
> >>=3D20
> >> Johnnie Apple Seed
> >>=3D20
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Horspool, Matthew F." <drjaws@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 10:13 AM
> >> Subject: RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re:=3D20
> >> Bug Fixes in
> >>=3D20
> >> JAWS 6.0
> >>=3D20
> >>=3D20
> >> Right.  I used the System Information tool and saved in plain text.
> >>=3D20
> >> -------------------------
> >> Mr. Matthew F. Horspool
> >>=3D20
> >> Send me an Electronic Mail to
> >> drjaws@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>=3D20
> >> Add
> >> horspool@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> to your MSN contact list
> >>=3D20
> >> Or Visit my web site at http://www.horspool.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk
> >> -------------------------
> >>=3D20
> >>=3D20
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D20
> >> [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of david poehlman
> >> Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 3:11 PM
> >> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> Subject: Re: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re:=3D20
> >> Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0
> >>=3D20
> >>=3D20
> >> matt,
> >>=3D20
> >> If you go to control panel, open system and read with the=3D20
> >> jaws cursor or
> >>=3D20
> >> ins+b, you are told in plain english what system you have. =3D20
> >> I'm not sure
> >> what you are running to get the result you have below, but=3D20
> >> thought this might help.
> >>=3D20
> >> Johnnie Apple Seed
> >>=3D20
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Horspool, Matthew F." <drjaws@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 3:26 AM
> >> Subject: RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re:=3D20
> >> Bug Fixes in
> >>=3D20
> >> JAWS 6.0
> >>=3D20
> >>=3D20
> >> OK, I thought I got it right, but when I interrogated the=3D20
> >> system this line came up:
> >> Processor: x86 Family 15 Model 2 Stepping 7 GenuineIntel ~2532 MhZ
> >>=3D20
> >> If I interpreted this line correctly I have a 2532MhZ processor!
> >>=3D20
> >> -------------------------
> >> Mr. Matthew F. Horspool
> >>=3D20
> >> Send me an Electronic Mail to
> >> drjaws@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>=3D20
> >> Add
> >> horspool@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> to your MSN contact list
> >>=3D20
> >> Or Visit my web site at http://www.horspool.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk
> >> -------------------------
> >>=3D20
> >>=3D20
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D20
> >> [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Chip Orange
> >> Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 5:13 PM
> >> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> Subject: RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re:=3D20
> >> Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0
> >>=3D20
> >>=3D20
> >> If you got that right (and it's not a typo) and your=3D20
> >> processor speed was only 256 mhz, then I could see why=3D20
> >> switching to a hardware synthesizer had such an improvement=3D20
> >> for you.  That was quite a load for your system.
> >>=3D20
> >> Chip
> >>=3D20
> >> =3D3D20
> >>=3D20
> >> > -----Original Message-----
> >> > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D3D20 =3D20
> >> [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]=3D20
> >> >On Behalf Of Horspool, Matthew F.
> >> > Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 12:05 PM
> >> > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > Subject: RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was -=20
> Re:=3D3D20  =3D
> > Bug=3D20
> >> >Fixes in JAWS 6.0 =3D3D20  Well I had 512MB RAM and about =
256MHZ=3D20
> >> >Processors.  Running at=3D3D20  once I had a copy of WinAmp =
with=3D20
> >> the Audio=3D20
> >> >stocker and=3D3D20  SHOUTcast plugin, Microsoft Outlook,=20
> SHOUTcast DNAS =3D
> >
> >> >(GUI),=3D3D20  BVentrilo and the Ventrilo Server, and a copy of =
JFW.
> >> >This=3D3D20  slowed down the system quite a bit. =3D3D20
> >> > -------------------------
> >> > Mr. Matthew F. Horspool
> >> > =3D3D20
> >> > Send me an Electronic Mail to
> >> > drjaws@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > =3D3D20
> >> > Add
> >> > horspool@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > to your MSN contact list
> >> > =3D3D20
> >> > Or Visit my web site at
> >> > http://www.horspool.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk
> >> > -------------------------
> >> >=3D3D20
> >> >=3D3D20
> >> > -----Original Message-----
> >> > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D3D20
> >> > [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Chip Orange
> >> > Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 4:38 PM
> >> > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > Subject: RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was -=20
> Re:=3D3D20  =3D
> > Bug=3D20
> >> >Fixes in JAWS 6.0 =3D3D20 =3D3D20  Ok,  this is the first=20
> opinion which=3D20
> >> >strongly prefers one to=3D3D20  another for other than=3D20
> >> subjective reasons,=3D20
> >> >and I appreciate it.
> >> >=3D3D20
> >> > Would you say the system you were using when you made=3D20
> >> the=3D3D20  switch=3D20
> >> >was unusually slow, short of ram, or overloaded with=3D3D20=20
>  processing =3D
> >
> >> >tasks?
> >> >=3D3D20
> >> > Thanks.
> >> >=3D3D20
> >> > Chip
> >> >=3D3D20
> >> > =3D3D3D20
> >> >=3D3D20
> >> > > -----Original Message-----
> >> > > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D3D3D20 =3D3D20
> >> > [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]=3D3D20
> >> > >On Behalf Of Horspool, Matthew F.
> >> > > Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 11:30 AM
> >> > > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > > Subject: RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was -=3D20
> >> Re:=3D3D3D20  =3D3D
> >> Bug=3D3D20
> >> > >Fixes in JAWS 6.0 =3D3D3D20  Used DECtalk ACCESS32 for=20
> about a=3D3D20
> >> > year and then=3D3D20
> >> > >switched to a=3D3D3D20  DECtalk USB for to get better=20
> broadcast=3D3D20
> >> > clarity.  I=3D3D20
> >> > >certainly=3D3D3D20  have noticed a huge difference in=3D20
> >> responsiveness:  =3D3D
> >> The=3D3D20
> >> > >DEC=3D3D3D20  USB is faster - a lot faster!
> >> > >=3D3D3D20
> >> > > -------------------------
> >> > > Mr. Matthew F. Horspool
> >> > > =3D3D3D20
> >> > > Send me an Electronic Mail to
> >> > > drjaws@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > > =3D3D3D20
> >> > > Add
> >> > > horspool@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > > to your MSN contact list
> >> > > =3D3D3D20
> >> > > Or Visit my web site at =20
> http://www.horspool.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk
> >> > > -------------------------
> >> > >=3D3D3D20
> >> > >=3D3D3D20
> >> > > -----Original Message-----
> >> > > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D3D3D20=3D20
> >> > >[mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of John Miller
> >> > > Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 4:20 PM
> >> > > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > > Subject: Re: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was -=3D20
> >> Re:=3D3D3D20  =3D3D
> >> Bug=3D3D20
> >> > >Fixes in JAWS 6.0 =3D3D3D20 =3D3D3D20  I don't notice it if so.
> >> > > ----- Original Message -----
> >> > > From: "Chip Orange" <Corange@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > > Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 10:47 AM
> >> > > Subject: RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was -=3D20
> >> Re:=3D3D3D20  =3D3D
> >> Bug=3D3D20
> >> > >Fixes in =3D3D3D20  JAWS 6.0 =3D3D3D20 =3D3D3D20
> >> > > > Yes; and they do use some processor time.  The question=3D20
> >> is that=3D3D20
> >>=3D20
> >> > > > on=3D3D3D20 todays systems, which usually have plenty of =
=3D3D
> >> processor=3D3D3D20
> >> > > speed and RAM,=3D3D3D20
> >> > > > does that really make any difference?
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Now, I know that it does from reports on AT&T Natural=3D20
> >> > > > Voices=3D3D3D20=3D3D20 specifically, but I was wondering =
about=3D20
> >> Eloquence.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Thanks.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Chip
> >> > > >
> >> > > > =3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >
> >> > > >> -----Original Message-----
> >> > > >> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D3D3D3D20 =3D3D3D20
> >> > > [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]=3D3D3D20
> >> > > >>On Behalf Of Flor Lynch
> >> > > >> Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2004 9:00 PM
> >> > > >> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > > >> Subject: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was -=20
> Re:=3D3D3D20
> >> > > Bug=3D3D3D3D20  Fixes
> >> > >=3D3D3D20
> >> > > >>in JAWS 6.0 =3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> Software synths take up more RAM than hardware ones do.
> >> > > >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> > > >> From: "Chip Orange" <Corange@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > > >> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > > >> Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2004 2:22 PM
> >> > > >> Subject: RE: Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0 =3D3D3D3D20=20
> =3D3D3D3D20  Well, =3D
> > no=3D20
> >> > > >>argument with your first point, it is more=3D3D3D20
> >> > > difficult to have =3D3D3D20
> >> > > >>all of the sound coming out of one source; but, when=20
> you=3D3D3D20
> >> > > need to use =3D3D3D20
> >> > > >>headphones so as not to disturb someone else, it's also =3D3D
> >> more=3D3D3D3D20=3D3D20
> >> > > >>=3D3D3D20 convenient. =3D3D3D3D20  As for your second, that =
=3D
> > just=3D3D20
> >> > seems to come=3D3D20
> >> > > >>down to personal=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > =3D3D3D20
> >> > > >>preference  as it doesn't bother me a bit.
> >> > > >>=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> There is one which you didn't mention, but which =
I've=3D3D3D20
> >> > > always wondered =3D3D3D20
> >> > > >>about, and that's how much of a load does Eloquence=20
> place=3D3D3D20
> >> > > on=3D3D3D3D20  your=3D3D3D20
> >> > > >>system  by having the software synth as compared to =3D
> > sending=3D3D3D20
> >> > > the text=3D3D3D20
> >> > > >>to be  spoken out of the serial port?  Anyone have any =3D
> > facts=3D3D20=3D20
> >> > > >>along=3D3D3D20 this
> >> > > line?
> >> > > >>=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> Thanks.
> >> > > >>=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> Chip
> >> > > >>=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> =3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >>=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> > -----Original Message-----
> >> > > >> > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D3D3D3D3D20=3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> >[mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Kerri
> >> > > >> > Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2004 2:04 AM
> >> > > >> > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > > >> > Subject: Re: Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0 =3D3D3D3D3D20  Hello =
=3D20
> >> Chip. I=3D3D20
> >>=3D20
> >> > > >> >despise software synthesizers mainly=3D3D3D20
> >> > > because=3D3D3D3D3D20 if=3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> >you are required to listen to other media, I find it=3D3D20
> >> > to=3D3D3D3D3D20=3D3D3D20=3D3D20
> >> > > >> >difficult to with a software synthesizer coming=20
> through=3D3D20
> >> > the=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> >=3D3D20
> >> > > >> >=3D3D3D
> >> >=3D3D20
> >> > > >> >same speakers. I also dislike elloquence's voice,=3D20
> >> *all of them*
> >> > > >> > ----- Original Message -----
> >> > > >> > From: "Chip Orange" <Corange@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > > >> > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > > >> > Sent: Monday, December 27, 2004 12:02 PM
> >> > > >> > Subject: RE: Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0 =3D3D3D3D3D20=3D20
> >> =3D3D3D3D3D20  I'm=3D3D20=3D20
> >> > > >> >interested in hearing why, as I use a DT express =
at=3D3D3D20
> >> > > work,=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >=3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> >and eloquence at home, and really haven't felt =
there's=3D3D20
> >> > much=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> >=3D3D20
> >> > > >> >=3D3D3D
> >> >=3D3D20
> >> > > >> >difference.  Perhaps there's just something I'm=3D3D20
> >> > missing? =3D3D3D3D3D20 =3D3D20
> >> > > >> >Thanks.
> >> > > >> >=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> > Chip
> >> > > >> >=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> > =3D3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> >=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> > > -----Original Message-----
> >> > > >> > > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D3D3D3D3D3D20=3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> > >[mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Kerri
> >> > > >> > > Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2004 12:17 AM
> >> > > >> > > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > > >> > > Subject: Re: Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0 =3D3D3D3D3D3D20 =3D20
> >> Chris, I=3D3D3D20
> >> > > vehemently=3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> > >despise software synthesizers hence=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> > my=3D3D3D3D3D3D20  dectalk=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> > >use and this is the only version that has been =3D3D3D
> >> > rather=3D3D3D3D3D3D20=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >>  sluggish.
> >> > > >> > > ----- Original Message -----
> >> > > >> > > From: "Chris Skarstad" <toonhead5@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > > >> > > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > > >> > > Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2004 4:15 PM
> >> > > >> > > Subject: Re: Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0 =3D3D3D3D3D3D20=3D20
> >> =3D3D3D3D3D3D20 =3D3D
> >> =3D3D3D20
> >> > > man I guess=3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> > >I'm very lucky then. This version actually runs =3D3D3D3D
> >> > > > a=3D3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> =3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> > >little faster on my system than 5.10 did. Then =3D
> > again=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> I'm=3D3D3D3D3D3D20  using
> >> > > >> =3D3D3D3D3D
> >> > > >> a=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> > >hardware synthesizer which is probably the=3D3D20
> >> > reason.=3D3D3D3D3D3D20  =3D3D3D3D
> >> > > > Never=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> > did like=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> > >software speech and never will based on =3D
> > what=3D3D3D3D3D3D20=3D3D20
> >> >  I've=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> seen.  By the
> >> > > >> =3D3D3D3D3D
> >> > > >>=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> > >way, the murge feature is there. go to=3D3D3D3D3D3D20  =
=3D
> > your=3D3D20
> >> > jaws=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> window with =3D3D3D3D3D
> >> > > >> alt=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> > >plus j, press alt u for utilities,=3D3D3D3D3D3D20 =20
> and it's =3D
> > =3D3D
> >> in=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> there. or simply
> >> > > >> =3D3D3D3D3D
> >> > > >>=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> > >bring up the context menu if=3D3D3D3D3D3D20  you're =3D
> > running=3D3D20
> >> > jaws in =3D3D3D
> >> > =3D3D3D3D
> >> > > > the=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> > system tray=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> > >and go to utilities=3D3D3D3D3D3D20  and the murge=20
> utility=3D3D20
> >> > is there.=3D3D3D20
> >> >=3D3D20
> >> > > >> > >=3D3D3D3D3D3D20  At 04:29 PM 12/21/2004, you wrote:
> >> > > >> > > >Hay, you mean, they haven't fixed any right? =
I'm=3D3D3D20
> >> > > sorry, I=3D3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> > > just couldn't=3D3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> > > >resist. In truth, this has been the worst version =3D3D
> >> I've=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> had the=3D3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> =3D3D3D3D3D
> >> > > >>=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> > > >misfortune to deal with in a long while. It=20
> runs=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> terribley slow,=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> > > >I'm=3D3D3D3D3D3D20 getting false attachments, no=20
> merge=3D3D20
> >> > feature=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> anywhere. I=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> > > >love=3D3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> > > spending=3D3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> > > >money on this "improved" product. Sorry, I'm=3D20
> >> being a grinch.
> >> > > >> > > >----- Original Message -----
> >> > > >> > > >From: "RJ" <rjf1@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > > >> > > >To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > > >> > > >Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2004 2:16 PM
> >> > > >> > > >Subject: Re: Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0
> >> > > >> > > >
> >> > > >> > > >
> >> > > >> > > >You are looking right, there just isn't any=20
> bugs.=3D3D3D20
> >> > > Smiling here.
> >> > > >> > > >----- Original Message -----
> >> > > >> > > >From: "Margaret Thomas" <iluvtoread@xxxxxxx>
> >> > > >> > > >To: "jfw" <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > > >> > > >Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2004 4:15 PM
> >> > > >> > > >Subject: Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0
> >> > > >> > > >
> >> > > >> > > >
> >> > > >> > > > > Good Afternoon,
> >> > > >> > > > >
> >> > > >> > > > >     I had a migraine when JAWS 6.0 was released =
=3D3D
> >> and=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> am trying=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> > > > > to=3D3D3D3D3D3D20 catch up with list mail=20
> before=3D3D3D20
> >> > > installing the new =3D3D3D3D
> >> > > > =3D3D3D3D3D
> >> > > >> release.
> >> > > >> > > > >
> >> > > >> > > > >     I've looked over the What's New section for=3D20
> >> > > >> > > > > 6.0=3D3D3D20=3D3D20 and=3D3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> > > could swear=3D3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> > > > > that there used to be a section on bug=20
> fixes, but I'm =3D
> > =3D3D
> >> =3D3D3D3D
> >> > > > not=3D3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> > > finding it=3D3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> > > > > for this version.  Am I having another=20
> senior moment, =3D
> > =3D3D
> >> =3D3D3D3D
> >> > > > or=3D3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> > > did FS not=3D3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> > > > > do it this time, or am I looking in the =
wrong=3D3D3D20
> >> > > place on=3D3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> > > the FS site? =3D3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> > > > > I've been looking at:
> >> > > >> > > > >
> >> > > >> > > > >
> >> > > >> > >=3D3D20
> >> > >http://www.freedomscientific.com/fs_products/software_jaws60f
> >> > > >> > > ea.asp#JAW
> >> > > >> > > >S_Features
> >> > > >> > > > >
> >> > > >> > > > >     Thanks,
> >> > > >> > > > > Margaret
> >> > > >> > > > > iluvtoread@xxxxxxx
> >> > > >> > > > >
> >> > > >> > > > > --
> >> > > >> > > > > To post a message to the list, send it =
to=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> > jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To=3D3D3D3D3D3D20=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> > > > > unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a=20
> message to
> >> > > >> > > >jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word =
unsubscribe=3D20
> >> > > >> > > >in=3D3D3D20=3D3D20 the=3D3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> > > subject line.
> >> > > >> > > > > Archives located at:=3D3D20
> >> > //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
> >> > > >> > > > >
> >> > > >> > > > > If you have any concerns about the list, post =
=3D3D3D
> >> > received=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> > from the=3D3D3D3D3D3D20=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> > > > > list, or
> >> > > >> > > >the way the list is being run, do not post them to=3D20
> >> > > >> > > >the=3D3D3D20=3D3D20 list.=3D3D3D3D3D20 =
Rather=3D3D3D3D3D3D20 =3D
> > contact the=3D20
> >> > > >> > > >list owner =3D3D
> >> at=3D3D3D20=3D3D20
> >> > > >> > > >jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > > >> > > > >
> >> > > >> > > >
> >> > > >> > > >--
> >> > > >> > > >To post a message to the list, send it to=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To=3D3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> =3D3D3D3D3D
> >> > > >>=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> > > >unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a=3D20
> >> message=3D3D3D20=3D3D20=3D20
> >> > > >> > > >to=3D3D3D3D3D3D20=3D3D3D3D3D20 =
jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx =3D
> > with=3D3D20
> >> > the word=3D3D3D20=3D3D20
> >> > > >> > > >unsubscribe in the=3D3D3D3D3D3D20
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> >> > > > from=3D3D3D3D3D3D20
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> >> > > >> > > >or the way the list is being run, do not post them =3D
> > to=3D3D3D20
> >> > > the=3D3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> > > list. Rather=3D3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> > > >contact the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > > >> > > >
> >> > > >> > > >
> >> > > >> > > >--
> >> > > >> > > >No virus found in this incoming message.
> >> > > >> > > >Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.
> >> > > >> > > >Version: 7.0.296 / Virus Database: 265.6.3 - =3D
> > Release=3D3D3D20
> >> > > Date:=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> > 12/21/2004
> >> > > >> > > >
> >> > > >> > > >
> >> > > >> > > >
> >> > > >> > > >
> >> > > >> > > >--
> >> > > >> > > >No virus found in this outgoing message.
> >> > > >> > > >Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.
> >> > > >> > > >Version: 7.0.296 / Virus Database: 265.6.3 - =3D
> > Release=3D3D3D20
> >> > > Date:=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> > 12/21/2004
> >> > > >> > > >
> >> > > >> > > >--
> >> > > >> > > >To post a message to the list, send it to=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To=3D3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> =3D3D3D3D3D
> >> > > >>=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> > > >unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a=3D20
> >> message=3D3D3D20=3D3D20=3D20
> >> > > >> > > >to=3D3D3D3D3D3D20=3D3D3D3D3D20 =
jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx =3D
> > with=3D3D20
> >> > the word=3D3D3D20=3D3D20
> >> > > >> > > >unsubscribe in the=3D3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> > > subject line.
> >> > > >> > > >Archives located at:=20
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> >> > > >> > > >
> >> > > >> > > >If you have any concerns about the list, post=3D20
> >> received =3D3D3D3D
> >> > > > from=3D3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> > > the list,=3D3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> > > >or the way the list is being run, do not post them =3D
> > to=3D3D3D20
> >> > > the=3D3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> > > list. Rather=3D3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> > > >contact the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > > >> > >=3D3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> > > --
> >> > > >> > > To post a message to the list, send it to=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D3D3D3D3D3D20  To
> >> > > >> =3D3D3D3D3D
> >> > > >>=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> > >unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a =
message=3D3D3D20
> >> > > to=3D3D3D3D3D3D20 =3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >=3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> > >jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe =3D3D
> >> in=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> > the=3D3D3D3D3D3D20  subject=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> > >line.
> >> > > >> > > Archives located at:=20
> //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
> >> > > >> > >=3D3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> > > If you have any concerns about the list, post=3D20
> >> received=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> from=3D3D3D3D3D3D20  =3D3D3D3D3D
> >> > > >> the=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> > >list, or the way the list is being run, do not=20
> post=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> them=3D3D3D3D3D3D20  to the
> >> > > >> =3D3D3D3D3D
> >> > > >>=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> > >list. Rather contact the list owner at=3D3D3D3D3D3D20  =
=3D
> > =3D3D3D3D3D
> >> > > >> jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > > >> > >=3D3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> > >=3D3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> > > --
> >> > > >> > > No virus found in this incoming message.
> >> > > >> > > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.
> >> > > >> > > Version: 7.0.296 / Virus Database: 265.6.3 -=20
> Release =3D3D3D
> >> > Date:=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> > 12/21/2004=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> > >=3D3D3D3D3D3D20 =3D3D3D3D3D3D20 =3D3D3D3D3D3D20=20
> =3D3D3D3D3D3D20 =3D20
> >> --=3D3D3D3D3D3D20
> >>=3D20
> >> > > >> > >=3D3D
> >>  No=3D3D20
> >> > > >> > >virus=3D3D3D20
> >> > > found in this
> >> > >=3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> > >=3D3D3D3D
> >> > > > outgoing =3D3D3D3D3D
> >> > > >> message.
> >> > > >> > > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.
> >> > > >> > > Version: 7.0.296 / Virus Database: 265.6.3 -=20
> Release =3D3D3D
> >> > Date:=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> > 12/21/2004=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> > >=3D3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> > > --
> >> > > >> > > To post a message to the list, send it to=3D3D20
> >> > jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx  =3D3D3D
> >> > =3D3D3D3D
> >> > > > To=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> > >unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a =
message=3D3D3D20
> >> > > to=3D3D3D3D3D3D20 =3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >=3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> > >jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe =3D3D
> >> in=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> > the=3D3D3D3D3D3D20  subject=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> > >line.
> >> > > >> > > Archives located at:=20
> //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
> >> > > >> > >=3D3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> > > If you have any concerns about the list, post=3D20
> >> received=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> from=3D3D3D3D3D3D20  =3D3D3D3D3D
> >> > > >> the=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> > >list, or the way the list is being run, do not=20
> post=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> them=3D3D3D3D3D3D20  to the
> >> > > >> =3D3D3D3D3D
> >> > > >>=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> > >list. Rather contact the list owner at=3D3D3D3D3D3D20  =
=3D
> > =3D3D3D3D3D
> >> > > >> jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > > >> > >=3D3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> > --
> >> > > >> > To post a message to the list, send it to=3D3D3D20
> >> > > jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D3D3D3D3D20 To=3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> >unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message =3D3D
> >> to=3D3D3D3D3D20=3D3D3D20=3D3D20
> >> > > >> >jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word=20
> unsubscribe in=3D3D20=3D20
> >> > > >> >the=3D3D3D3D3D20=3D3D3D20 subject line.  Archives located =
at:
> >> > > >> >//www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
> >> > > >> >=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> > If you have any concerns about the list, post=20
> received =3D3D3D
> >> > from=3D3D3D3D3D20=3D3D3D20
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> post=3D3D3D20
> >> > > them=3D3D3D3D3D20 to=3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> >the list. Rather contact the list owner =3D
> > at=3D3D3D3D3D20=3D3D3D20=3D3D20=3D20
> >> > > >> >jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx =3D3D3D3D3D20 =3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> > --
> >> > > >> > No virus found in this incoming message.
> >> > > >> > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.
> >> > > >> > Version: 7.0.298 / Virus Database: 265.6.5 - Release =3D3D
> >> Date:=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> 12/26/2004
> >> > > >> >=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> >=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> >=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> >=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> >=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> > --=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> > No virus found in this outgoing message.
> >> > > >> > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.
> >> > > >> > Version: 7.0.298 / Virus Database: 265.6.5 - Release =3D3D
> >> Date:=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> 12/26/2004
> >> > > >> >=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> > --
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> >> > jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To=3D3D3D20=3D3D20
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> >> > > >> >jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word=20
> unsubscribe in=3D3D20=3D20
> >> > > >> >the=3D3D3D3D3D20=3D3D3D20 subject line.  Archives located =
at:
> >> > > >> >//www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
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> received =3D3D3D
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> post=3D3D3D20
> >> > > them=3D3D3D3D3D20 to=3D3D3D20
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> > at=3D3D3D3D3D20=3D3D3D20=3D3D20=3D20
> >> > > >> >jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx =3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> --
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> >> > jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx  To=3D3D3D20=3D3D20
> >> > > >>unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message =3D
> > to=3D3D3D20=3D3D20=3D20
> >> > > >>jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe =
in=3D3D3D20
> >> > > the=3D3D3D3D20  subject
> >> > >=3D3D3D20
> >> > > >>line.  Archives located at:=3D20
> >> //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
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> received=3D3D3D20
> >> > > from=3D3D3D3D20  the=3D3D3D20
> >> > > >>list, or  the way the list is being run, do not post=20
> them=3D3D3D20
> >> > > to the list.=3D3D3D20
> >> > > >>Rather  contact the list owner at=20
> jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx =3D3D
> >> =3D3D3D3D20=3D3D20
> >> > > >>=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> --
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> >> > jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx  To=3D3D3D20=3D3D20
> >> > > >>unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message=3D20
> >> to=3D3D3D3D20 =3D3D3D20
> >>=3D20
> >> > > >>=3D3D
> >>=3D20
> >> > > >>jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe =
in=3D3D3D20
> >> > > the=3D3D3D3D20  subject=3D3D3D20
> >> > > >>line.
> >> > > >> Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
> >> > > >>=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> If you have any concerns about the list, post=20
> received=3D3D3D20
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> >> > > >>list, or the way the list is being run, do not post=3D3D20
> >> > them=3D3D3D3D20  to =3D3D3D
> >> > the=3D3D3D20
> >> > > >>list. Rather contact the list owner at=3D3D3D3D20  =3D3D3D
> >> > jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > > >>=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > --
> >> > > > To post a message to the list, send it to=20
> jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx =3D3D
> >> To=3D3D3D20=3D3D20
> >> > > > unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message =3D
> > to=3D3D3D20=3D3D20=3D20
> >> > > > jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe=20
> in the=3D3D20=3D20
> >> > > > subject=3D3D3D20 line. Archives located at:
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> > from=3D3D3D20
> >> > > the list,=3D3D3D20
> >> > > > or the way the list is being run, do not post them=20
> to the=3D3D3D20
> >> > > list. Rather=3D3D3D20
> >> > > > contact the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > > >=3D3D3D20
> >> > >=3D3D3D20
> >> > >=3D3D3D20
> >> > > --
> >> > > To post a message to the list, send it to=3D20
> >> jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D3D3D20  To
> >>=3D20
> >> > >=3D3D
> >>=3D20
> >> > >unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message=20
> to=3D3D3D20=3D3D20=3D20
> >> > >jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in=3D3D20
> >> > the=3D3D3D20  subject=3D3D20
> >> > >line.  Archives located at:=20
> //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
> >> > >=3D3D3D20
> >> > > If you have any concerns about the list, post received=3D20
> >> from=3D3D3D20  =3D3D
> >> the=3D3D20
> >> > >list, or the way the list is being run, do not post=3D20
> >> them=3D3D3D20  to the
> >>=3D20
> >> > >=3D3D
> >>=3D20
> >> > >list. Rather contact the list owner at=3D3D3D20  =3D3D
> >> jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > >=3D3D3D20
> >> > >=3D3D3D20
> >> > > --
> >> > > To post a message to the list, send it to=3D20
> >> jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D3D3D20  To
> >>=3D20
> >> > >=3D3D
> >>=3D20
> >> > >unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message=20
> to=3D3D3D20 =3D3D20=3D20
> >> > >jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in=3D3D20
> >> > the=3D3D3D20  subject=3D3D20
> >> > >line.
> >> > > Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
> >> > >=3D3D3D20
> >> > > If you have any concerns about the list, post received=3D20
> >> from=3D3D3D20  =3D3D
> >> the=3D3D20
> >> > >list, or the way the list is being run, do not post=3D20
> >> them=3D3D3D20  to the
> >>=3D20
> >> > >=3D3D
> >>=3D20
> >> > >list. Rather contact the list owner at=3D3D3D20  =3D3D
> >> jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > >=3D3D3D20
> >> > --
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> jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D3D20  To =3D
> >
> >> >unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to=3D3D20=3D20
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> >> the=3D3D20  subject=3D20
> >> >line.  Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
> >> >=3D3D20
> >> > If you have any concerns about the list, post received=20
> from=3D3D20  =3D
> > the=3D20
> >> >list, or the way the list is being run, do not post=20
> them=3D3D20  to the =3D
> >
> >> >list. Rather contact the list owner at=3D3D20  =3D
> > jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> >=3D3D20
> >> > --
> >> > To post a message to the list, send it to=20
> jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D3D20  To =3D
> >
> >> >unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to=3D3D20=3D20
> >> >jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in=3D20
> >> the=3D3D20  subject=3D20
> >> >line.  Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
> >> >=3D3D20
> >> > If you have any concerns about the list, post received=20
> from=3D3D20  =3D
> > the=3D20
> >> >list, or the way the list is being run, do not post=20
> them=3D3D20  to the =3D
> >
> >> >list. Rather contact the list owner at=3D3D20  =3D
> > jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> >=3D3D20
> >> --
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> >> jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the=3D20
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> >> Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
> >>=3D20
> >> If you have any concerns about the list, post received from=3D20
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> >> jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>=3D20
> >> --
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> >> To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to=3D20
> >> jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the=3D20
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> >> the list, or the way the list is being run, do not post them=3D20
> >> to the list. Rather contact the list owner at=3D20
> >> jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>=3D20
> >> --
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> >> jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the=3D20
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> >> to the list. Rather contact the list owner at=3D20
> >> jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>=3D20
> >> --
> >> To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D20
> >> To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to=3D20
> >> jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the=3D20
> >> subject line.
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> >>=3D20
> >> If you have any concerns about the list, post received from=3D20
> >> the list, or the way the list is being run, do not post them=3D20
> >> to the list. Rather contact the list owner at=3D20
> >> jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>=3D20
> >> --
> >> To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D20
> >> To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to=3D20
> >> jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the=3D20
> >> subject line.
> >> Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
> >>=3D20
> >> If you have any concerns about the list, post received from=3D20
> >> the list, or the way the list is being run, do not post them=3D20
> >> to the list. Rather contact the list owner at=3D20
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> >>=3D20
> >>=3D20
> >>=3D20
> >> --
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> >> To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to=3D20
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> >> If you have any concerns about the list, post received from=3D20
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> >> to the list. Rather contact the list owner at=3D20
> >> jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>=3D20
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > From: "Graham Stoodley" <stoodlg@xxxxxxxxxx>
> > Subject: Re: sounds manager
> > Date: Thu, 30 Dec 2004 12:44:08 -0500
> >
> > Stop carrying out your personal grievances on this list. =20
> Non of the rest=20
> > of
> > us cares.  Both of you are being remarkably childish, and I=20
> am tired of=20
> > your
> > wasting my time with your recriminations.
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----=20
> > From: "chevelle" <chevelle33@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 12:07 PM
> > Subject: Re: sounds manager
> >
> >
> >> Listen, you did the same thing to me when I explained something to
> >> someone.
> >> I said go to basics. You sent a stupid post saying where=20
> is the baics?
> >> when
> >> you knew darned well where the baics is so don't talk=20
> about wasting time,
> >> and what is off topic. You can dish it out, but you can't=20
> take it can=20
> >> you!
> >> ----- Original Message -----=20
> >> From: "david poehlman" <david.poehlman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 9:59 AM
> >> Subject: Re: sounds manager
> >>
> >>
> >>> then they should ask. this is getting off topic.  If you=20
> have a problem
> >>> with
> >>> something I post, I suggest you write me privately and=20
> perhaps we can
> >>> streighten it out.  I use correct terminology in my=20
> posts.  If people
> >>> need
> >>> more specificis, I am happy to furnish them but if people=20
> just want to
> >>> waste
> >>> time, I can do that too.
> >>>
> >>> Johnnie Apple Seed
> >>>
> >>> ----- Original Message -----=20
> >>> From: "chevelle" <chevelle33@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>> Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 9:02 AM
> >>> Subject: Re: sounds manager
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> YOu didn't tell them how to open the default manager.=20
> Maybe they dont
> >>> know
> >>> how to do that.
> >>> ----- Original Message -----=20
> >>> From: "david poehlman" <david.poehlman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>> Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 8:44 PM
> >>> Subject: Re: sounds manager
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>I told someone to open default configuration manager.
> >>>>
> >>>> Johnnie Apple Seed
> >>>>
> >>>> ----- Original Message -----=20
> >>>> From: "chevelle" <chevelle33@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 8:33 PM
> >>>> Subject: Re: sounds manager
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Look at your won post. You told someone to choose=20
> default. How! do!=20
> >>>> you!
> >>>> choose! the default!
> >>>> ----- Original Message -----=20
> >>>> From: "david poehlman" <david.poehlman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 8:22 PM
> >>>> Subject: Re: sounds manager
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> what default?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Johnnie Apple Seed
> >>>>>
> >>>>> ----- Original Message -----=20
> >>>>> From: "chevelle" <chevelle33@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>>>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 8:19 PM
> >>>>> Subject: Re: sounds manager
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> That doesn't explain how you choose the default.
> >>>>> ----- Original Message -----=20
> >>>>> From: "david poehlman" <david.poehlman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>>>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 7:50 PM
> >>>>> Subject: Re: sounds manager
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> default is classic.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Johnnie Apple Seed
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> ----- Original Message -----=20
> >>>>>> From: "chevelle" <chevelle33@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>>>>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 7:36 PM
> >>>>>> Subject: Re: sounds manager
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> How do you choose the default, and how do you get to=20
> the speech and
> >>>>>> sounds
> >>>>>> manager?
> >>>>>> ----- Original Message -----=20
> >>>>>> From: "david poehlman"=20
> <david.poehlman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>>>>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 6:26 PM
> >>>>>> Subject: Re: sounds manager
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> speech and sounds manager is simple but there are a=20
> lot of choices=20
> >>>>>>> to
> >>>>>>> make
> >>>>>>> or to choose from among.  You must look through it=20
> and figure out
> >>>>>>> what
> >>>>>>> yu
> >>>>>>> want to do.  It is not hard to do any of it and you=20
> must also choose
> >>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>> app
> >>>>>>> you intend to work with.  Choose default if you wish=20
> by opening the
> >>>>>>> default
> >>>>>>> configuration manager and choosing speech and sounds=20
> manager and
> >>>>>>> opening
> >>>>>>> it
> >>>>>>> up, click edit scheme button and press space, the=20
> first tab is the
> >>>>>>> general
> >>>>>>> tab and you can leave the description the way it is,=20
> ctrl+tab to the
> >>>>>>> other
> >>>>>>> pages and look through the options and things you can=20
> ghance and
> >>>>>>> decide
> >>>>>>> what
> >>>>>>> to change.  If you want to change the way a slider sounds for
> >>>>>>> instance,
> >>>>>>> go
> >>>>>>> to the bottom of the list on the first page and then=20
> tab to the=20
> >>>>>>> group
> >>>>>>> of
> >>>>>>> four radio buttons and select the one you want the=20
> bahavior for.
> >>>>>>> Play
> >>>>>>> sound
> >>>>>>> is at the bottom, and for that, you must choose a wav=20
> file with the
> >>>>>>> next
> >>>>>>> button in tab order.  Once yu are done with the=20
> settings, click ok
> >>>>>>> and
> >>>>>>> ok
> >>>>>>> again if need be, close and save.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Johnnie Apple Seed
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----=20
> >>>>>>> From: <ptusing@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>>>>>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 5:40 PM
> >>>>>>> Subject: sounds manager
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Hi,
> >>>>>>> Could some one for the sake of argument go through=20
> like  the  steps
> >>>>>>> in
> >>>>>>> order
> >>>>>>> for setting the sounds  manager to put a sound on to let's say
> >>>>>>> something useful.
> >>>>>>> Thanks.
> >>>>>>> I was looking for this info as in sounds manager  in=20
> the JAWS  6=20
> >>>>>>> help
> >>>>>>> topics.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
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> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Subject: RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re:=20
> Bug Fixes in=20
> > JAWS 6
> > Date: Thu, 30 Dec 2004 12:47:16 -0500
> > From: "Chip Orange" <Corange@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >
> > David,
> >
> > Some versions of Intel processors will start to slow=20
> themselves down if
> > they detect that they're getting too warm (in order to generate less
> > heat, which evidently is related to their clock speed).  This could
> > possibly account for it as he did list some information about the
> > "stepping", and the name for this technology from Intel is=20
> Speed Step.
> > I didn't realize it was being deployed in desktop systems,=20
> but it makes
> > sense, I just hadn't realized it had gotten cheap enough.
> >
> > Chip
> >
> > =3D20
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D20
> >> [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Horspool, Matthew F.
> >> Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 11:46 AM
> >> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> Subject: RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re:=3D20
> >> Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0
> >>=3D20
> >> Well that's what I was told
> >>=3D20
> >> -------------------------
> >> Mr. Matthew F. Horspool
> >> =3D20
> >> Send me an Electronic Mail to
> >> drjaws@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> =3D20
> >> Add
> >> horspool@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> to your MSN contact list
> >> =3D20
> >> Or Visit my web site at
> >> http://www.horspool.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk
> >> -------------------------
> >>=3D20
> >>=3D20
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D20
> >> [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of david poehlman
> >> Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 4:38 PM
> >> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> Subject: Re: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re:=3D20
> >> Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0
> >>=3D20
> >>=3D20
> >> that's an odd number.
> >>=3D20
> >> Johnnie Apple Seed
> >>=3D20
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Horspool, Matthew F." <drjaws@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 11:04 AM
> >> Subject: RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re:=3D20
> >> Bug Fixes in
> >>=3D20
> >> JAWS 6.0
> >>=3D20
> >>=3D20
> >> I'm using a 2.53 GHz processor.  I think the other figure was=3D20
> >> from an old laptop.
> >> -------------------------
> >> Mr. Matthew F. Horspool
> >>=3D20
> >> Send me an Electronic Mail to
> >> drjaws@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>=3D20
> >> Add
> >> horspool@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> to your MSN contact list
> >>=3D20
> >> Or Visit my web site at http://www.horspool.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk
> >> -------------------------
> >>=3D20
> >>=3D20
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D20
> >> [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of david poehlman
> >> Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 3:23 PM
> >> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> Subject: Re: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re:=3D20
> >> Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0
> >>=3D20
> >>=3D20
> >> What do you get then when you look at system in controll panel?
> >>=3D20
> >> Johnnie Apple Seed
> >>=3D20
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Horspool, Matthew F." <drjaws@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 10:13 AM
> >> Subject: RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re:=3D20
> >> Bug Fixes in
> >>=3D20
> >> JAWS 6.0
> >>=3D20
> >>=3D20
> >> Right.  I used the System Information tool and saved in plain text.
> >>=3D20
> >> -------------------------
> >> Mr. Matthew F. Horspool
> >>=3D20
> >> Send me an Electronic Mail to
> >> drjaws@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>=3D20
> >> Add
> >> horspool@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> to your MSN contact list
> >>=3D20
> >> Or Visit my web site at http://www.horspool.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk
> >> -------------------------
> >>=3D20
> >>=3D20
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D20
> >> [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of david poehlman
> >> Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 3:11 PM
> >> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> Subject: Re: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re:=3D20
> >> Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0
> >>=3D20
> >>=3D20
> >> matt,
> >>=3D20
> >> If you go to control panel, open system and read with the=3D20
> >> jaws cursor or
> >>=3D20
> >> ins+b, you are told in plain english what system you have. =3D20
> >> I'm not sure
> >> what you are running to get the result you have below, but=3D20
> >> thought this might help.
> >>=3D20
> >> Johnnie Apple Seed
> >>=3D20
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Horspool, Matthew F." <drjaws@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 3:26 AM
> >> Subject: RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re:=3D20
> >> Bug Fixes in
> >>=3D20
> >> JAWS 6.0
> >>=3D20
> >>=3D20
> >> OK, I thought I got it right, but when I interrogated the=3D20
> >> system this line came up:
> >> Processor: x86 Family 15 Model 2 Stepping 7 GenuineIntel ~2532 MhZ
> >>=3D20
> >> If I interpreted this line correctly I have a 2532MhZ processor!
> >>=3D20
> >> -------------------------
> >> Mr. Matthew F. Horspool
> >>=3D20
> >> Send me an Electronic Mail to
> >> drjaws@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>=3D20
> >> Add
> >> horspool@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> to your MSN contact list
> >>=3D20
> >> Or Visit my web site at http://www.horspool.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk
> >> -------------------------
> >>=3D20
> >>=3D20
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D20
> >> [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Chip Orange
> >> Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 5:13 PM
> >> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> Subject: RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re:=3D20
> >> Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0
> >>=3D20
> >>=3D20
> >> If you got that right (and it's not a typo) and your=3D20
> >> processor speed was only 256 mhz, then I could see why=3D20
> >> switching to a hardware synthesizer had such an improvement=3D20
> >> for you.  That was quite a load for your system.
> >>=3D20
> >> Chip
> >>=3D20
> >> =3D3D20
> >>=3D20
> >> > -----Original Message-----
> >> > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D3D20 =3D20
> >> [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]=3D20
> >> >On Behalf Of Horspool, Matthew F.
> >> > Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 12:05 PM
> >> > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > Subject: RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was -=20
> Re:=3D3D20  =3D
> > Bug=3D20
> >> >Fixes in JAWS 6.0 =3D3D20  Well I had 512MB RAM and about =
256MHZ=3D20
> >> >Processors.  Running at=3D3D20  once I had a copy of WinAmp =
with=3D20
> >> the Audio=3D20
> >> >stocker and=3D3D20  SHOUTcast plugin, Microsoft Outlook,=20
> SHOUTcast DNAS =3D
> >
> >> >(GUI),=3D3D20  BVentrilo and the Ventrilo Server, and a copy of =
JFW.
> >> >This=3D3D20  slowed down the system quite a bit. =3D3D20
> >> > -------------------------
> >> > Mr. Matthew F. Horspool
> >> > =3D3D20
> >> > Send me an Electronic Mail to
> >> > drjaws@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > =3D3D20
> >> > Add
> >> > horspool@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > to your MSN contact list
> >> > =3D3D20
> >> > Or Visit my web site at  http://www.horspool.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk
> >> > -------------------------
> >> >=3D3D20
> >> >=3D3D20
> >> > -----Original Message-----
> >> > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D3D20
> >> > [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Chip Orange
> >> > Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 4:38 PM
> >> > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > Subject: RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was -=20
> Re:=3D3D20  =3D
> > Bug=3D20
> >> >Fixes in JAWS 6.0 =3D3D20 =3D3D20  Ok,  this is the first=20
> opinion which=3D20
> >> >strongly prefers one to=3D3D20  another for other than=3D20
> >> subjective reasons,=3D20
> >> >and I appreciate it.
> >> >=3D3D20
> >> > Would you say the system you were using when you made=3D20
> >> the=3D3D20  switch=3D20
> >> >was unusually slow, short of ram, or overloaded with=3D3D20=20
>  processing =3D
> >
> >> >tasks?
> >> >=3D3D20
> >> > Thanks.
> >> >=3D3D20
> >> > Chip
> >> >=3D3D20
> >> > =3D3D3D20
> >> >=3D3D20
> >> > > -----Original Message-----
> >> > > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D3D3D20 =3D3D20
> >> > [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]=3D3D20
> >> > >On Behalf Of Horspool, Matthew F.
> >> > > Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 11:30 AM
> >> > > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > > Subject: RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was -=3D20
> >> Re:=3D3D3D20  =3D3D
> >> Bug=3D3D20
> >> > >Fixes in JAWS 6.0 =3D3D3D20  Used DECtalk ACCESS32 for=20
> about a=3D3D20
> >> > year and then=3D3D20
> >> > >switched to a=3D3D3D20  DECtalk USB for to get better=20
> broadcast=3D3D20
> >> > clarity.  I=3D3D20
> >> > >certainly=3D3D3D20  have noticed a huge difference in=3D20
> >> responsiveness:  =3D3D
> >> The=3D3D20
> >> > >DEC=3D3D3D20  USB is faster - a lot faster!
> >> > >=3D3D3D20
> >> > > -------------------------
> >> > > Mr. Matthew F. Horspool
> >> > > =3D3D3D20
> >> > > Send me an Electronic Mail to
> >> > > drjaws@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > > =3D3D3D20
> >> > > Add
> >> > > horspool@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > > to your MSN contact list
> >> > > =3D3D3D20
> >> > > Or Visit my web site at =20
> http://www.horspool.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk
> >> > > -------------------------
> >> > >=3D3D3D20
> >> > >=3D3D3D20
> >> > > -----Original Message-----
> >> > > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D3D3D20=3D20
> >> > >[mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of John Miller
> >> > > Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 4:20 PM
> >> > > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > > Subject: Re: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was -=3D20
> >> Re:=3D3D3D20  =3D3D
> >> Bug=3D3D20
> >> > >Fixes in JAWS 6.0 =3D3D3D20 =3D3D3D20  I don't notice it if so.
> >> > > ----- Original Message -----
> >> > > From: "Chip Orange" <Corange@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > > Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 10:47 AM
> >> > > Subject: RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was -=3D20
> >> Re:=3D3D3D20  =3D3D
> >> Bug=3D3D20
> >> > >Fixes in =3D3D3D20  JAWS 6.0 =3D3D3D20 =3D3D3D20
> >> > > > Yes; and they do use some processor time.  The question=3D20
> >> is that=3D3D20
> >>=3D20
> >> > > > on=3D3D3D20 todays systems, which usually have plenty of =
=3D3D
> >> processor=3D3D3D20
> >> > > speed and RAM,=3D3D3D20
> >> > > > does that really make any difference?
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Now, I know that it does from reports on AT&T Natural=3D20
> >> > > > Voices=3D3D3D20=3D3D20 specifically, but I was wondering =
about=3D20
> >> Eloquence.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Thanks.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Chip
> >> > > >
> >> > > > =3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >
> >> > > >> -----Original Message-----
> >> > > >> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D3D3D3D20 =3D3D3D20
> >> > > [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]=3D3D3D20
> >> > > >>On Behalf Of Flor Lynch
> >> > > >> Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2004 9:00 PM
> >> > > >> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > > >> Subject: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was -=20
> Re:=3D3D3D20
> >> > > Bug=3D3D3D3D20  Fixes
> >> > >=3D3D3D20
> >> > > >>in JAWS 6.0 =3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> Software synths take up more RAM than hardware ones do.
> >> > > >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> > > >> From: "Chip Orange" <Corange@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > > >> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > > >> Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2004 2:22 PM
> >> > > >> Subject: RE: Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0 =3D3D3D3D20=20
> =3D3D3D3D20  Well, =3D
> > no=3D20
> >> > > >>argument with your first point, it is more=3D3D3D20
> >> > > difficult to have =3D3D3D20
> >> > > >>all of the sound coming out of one source; but, when=20
> you=3D3D3D20
> >> > > need to use =3D3D3D20
> >> > > >>headphones so as not to disturb someone else, it's also =3D3D
> >> more=3D3D3D3D20=3D3D20
> >> > > >>=3D3D3D20 convenient. =3D3D3D3D20  As for your second, that =
=3D
> > just=3D3D20
> >> > seems to come=3D3D20
> >> > > >>down to personal=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > =3D3D3D20
> >> > > >>preference  as it doesn't bother me a bit.
> >> > > >>=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> There is one which you didn't mention, but which =
I've=3D3D3D20
> >> > > always wondered =3D3D3D20
> >> > > >>about, and that's how much of a load does Eloquence=20
> place=3D3D3D20
> >> > > on=3D3D3D3D20  your=3D3D3D20
> >> > > >>system  by having the software synth as compared to =3D
> > sending=3D3D3D20
> >> > > the text=3D3D3D20
> >> > > >>to be  spoken out of the serial port?  Anyone have any =3D
> > facts=3D3D20=3D20
> >> > > >>along=3D3D3D20 this
> >> > > line?
> >> > > >>=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> Thanks.
> >> > > >>=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> Chip
> >> > > >>=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> =3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >>=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> > -----Original Message-----
> >> > > >> > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D3D3D3D3D20=3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> >[mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Kerri
> >> > > >> > Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2004 2:04 AM
> >> > > >> > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > > >> > Subject: Re: Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0 =3D3D3D3D3D20  Hello =
=3D20
> >> Chip. I=3D3D20
> >>=3D20
> >> > > >> >despise software synthesizers mainly=3D3D3D20
> >> > > because=3D3D3D3D3D20 if=3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> >you are required to listen to other media, I find it=3D3D20
> >> > to=3D3D3D3D3D20=3D3D3D20=3D3D20
> >> > > >> >difficult to with a software synthesizer coming=20
> through=3D3D20
> >> > the=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> >=3D3D20
> >> > > >> >=3D3D3D
> >> >=3D3D20
> >> > > >> >same speakers. I also dislike elloquence's voice,=3D20
> >> *all of them*
> >> > > >> > ----- Original Message -----
> >> > > >> > From: "Chip Orange" <Corange@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > > >> > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > > >> > Sent: Monday, December 27, 2004 12:02 PM
> >> > > >> > Subject: RE: Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0 =3D3D3D3D3D20=3D20
> >> =3D3D3D3D3D20  I'm=3D3D20=3D20
> >> > > >> >interested in hearing why, as I use a DT express =
at=3D3D3D20
> >> > > work,=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >=3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> >and eloquence at home, and really haven't felt =
there's=3D3D20
> >> > much=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> >=3D3D20
> >> > > >> >=3D3D3D
> >> >=3D3D20
> >> > > >> >difference.  Perhaps there's just something I'm=3D3D20
> >> > missing? =3D3D3D3D3D20 =3D3D20
> >> > > >> >Thanks.
> >> > > >> >=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> > Chip
> >> > > >> >=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> > =3D3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> >=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> > > -----Original Message-----
> >> > > >> > > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D3D3D3D3D3D20=3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> > >[mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Kerri
> >> > > >> > > Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2004 12:17 AM
> >> > > >> > > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > > >> > > Subject: Re: Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0 =3D3D3D3D3D3D20 =3D20
> >> Chris, I=3D3D3D20
> >> > > vehemently=3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> > >despise software synthesizers hence=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> > my=3D3D3D3D3D3D20  dectalk=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> > >use and this is the only version that has been =3D3D3D
> >> > rather=3D3D3D3D3D3D20=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >>  sluggish.
> >> > > >> > > ----- Original Message -----
> >> > > >> > > From: "Chris Skarstad" <toonhead5@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > > >> > > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > > >> > > Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2004 4:15 PM
> >> > > >> > > Subject: Re: Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0 =3D3D3D3D3D3D20=3D20
> >> =3D3D3D3D3D3D20 =3D3D
> >> =3D3D3D20
> >> > > man I guess=3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> > >I'm very lucky then. This version actually runs =3D3D3D3D
> >> > > > a=3D3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> =3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> > >little faster on my system than 5.10 did. Then =3D
> > again=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> I'm=3D3D3D3D3D3D20  using
> >> > > >> =3D3D3D3D3D
> >> > > >> a=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> > >hardware synthesizer which is probably the=3D3D20
> >> > reason.=3D3D3D3D3D3D20  =3D3D3D3D
> >> > > > Never=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> > did like=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> > >software speech and never will based on =3D
> > what=3D3D3D3D3D3D20=3D3D20
> >> >  I've=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> seen.  By the
> >> > > >> =3D3D3D3D3D
> >> > > >>=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> > >way, the murge feature is there. go to=3D3D3D3D3D3D20  =
=3D
> > your=3D3D20
> >> > jaws=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> window with =3D3D3D3D3D
> >> > > >> alt=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> > >plus j, press alt u for utilities,=3D3D3D3D3D3D20 =20
> and it's =3D
> > =3D3D
> >> in=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> there. or simply
> >> > > >> =3D3D3D3D3D
> >> > > >>=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> > >bring up the context menu if=3D3D3D3D3D3D20  you're =3D
> > running=3D3D20
> >> > jaws in =3D3D3D
> >> > =3D3D3D3D
> >> > > > the=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> > system tray=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> > >and go to utilities=3D3D3D3D3D3D20  and the murge=20
> utility=3D3D20
> >> > is there.=3D3D3D20
> >> >=3D3D20
> >> > > >> > >=3D3D3D3D3D3D20  At 04:29 PM 12/21/2004, you wrote:
> >> > > >> > > >Hay, you mean, they haven't fixed any right? =
I'm=3D3D3D20
> >> > > sorry, I=3D3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> > > just couldn't=3D3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> > > >resist. In truth, this has been the worst version =3D3D
> >> I've=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> had the=3D3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> =3D3D3D3D3D
> >> > > >>=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> > > >misfortune to deal with in a long while. It=20
> runs=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> terribley slow,=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> > > >I'm=3D3D3D3D3D3D20 getting false attachments, no=20
> merge=3D3D20
> >> > feature=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> anywhere. I=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> > > >love=3D3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> > > spending=3D3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> > > >money on this "improved" product. Sorry, I'm=3D20
> >> being a grinch.
> >> > > >> > > >----- Original Message -----
> >> > > >> > > >From: "RJ" <rjf1@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > > >> > > >To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > > >> > > >Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2004 2:16 PM
> >> > > >> > > >Subject: Re: Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0
> >> > > >> > > >
> >> > > >> > > >
> >> > > >> > > >You are looking right, there just isn't any=20
> bugs.=3D3D3D20
> >> > > Smiling here.
> >> > > >> > > >----- Original Message -----
> >> > > >> > > >From: "Margaret Thomas" <iluvtoread@xxxxxxx>
> >> > > >> > > >To: "jfw" <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > > >> > > >Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2004 4:15 PM
> >> > > >> > > >Subject: Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0
> >> > > >> > > >
> >> > > >> > > >
> >> > > >> > > > > Good Afternoon,
> >> > > >> > > > >
> >> > > >> > > > >     I had a migraine when JAWS 6.0 was released =
=3D3D
> >> and=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> am trying=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> > > > > to=3D3D3D3D3D3D20 catch up with list mail=20
> before=3D3D3D20
> >> > > installing the new =3D3D3D3D
> >> > > > =3D3D3D3D3D
> >> > > >> release.
> >> > > >> > > > >
> >> > > >> > > > >     I've looked over the What's New section for=3D20
> >> > > >> > > > > 6.0=3D3D3D20=3D3D20 and=3D3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> > > could swear=3D3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> > > > > that there used to be a section on bug=20
> fixes, but I'm =3D
> > =3D3D
> >> =3D3D3D3D
> >> > > > not=3D3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> > > finding it=3D3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> > > > > for this version.  Am I having another=20
> senior moment, =3D
> > =3D3D
> >> =3D3D3D3D
> >> > > > or=3D3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> > > did FS not=3D3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> > > > > do it this time, or am I looking in the =
wrong=3D3D3D20
> >> > > place on=3D3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> > > the FS site? =3D3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> > > > > I've been looking at:
> >> > > >> > > > >
> >> > > >> > > > >
> >> > > >> > >=3D3D20
> >> > >http://www.freedomscientific.com/fs_products/software_jaws60f
> >> > > >> > > ea.asp#JAW
> >> > > >> > > >S_Features
> >> > > >> > > > >
> >> > > >> > > > >     Thanks,
> >> > > >> > > > > Margaret
> >> > > >> > > > > iluvtoread@xxxxxxx
> >> > > >> > > > >
> >> > > >> > > > > --
> >> > > >> > > > > To post a message to the list, send it =
to=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> > jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To=3D3D3D3D3D3D20=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> > > > > unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a=20
> message to
> >> > > >> > > >jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word =
unsubscribe=3D20
> >> > > >> > > >in=3D3D3D20=3D3D20 the=3D3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> > > subject line.
> >> > > >> > > > > Archives located at:=3D3D20
> >> > //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
> >> > > >> > > > >
> >> > > >> > > > > If you have any concerns about the list, post =
=3D3D3D
> >> > received=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> > from the=3D3D3D3D3D3D20=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> > > > > list, or
> >> > > >> > > >the way the list is being run, do not post them to=3D20
> >> > > >> > > >the=3D3D3D20=3D3D20 list.=3D3D3D3D3D20 =
Rather=3D3D3D3D3D3D20 =3D
> > contact the=3D20
> >> > > >> > > >list owner =3D3D
> >> at=3D3D3D20=3D3D20
> >> > > >> > > >jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > > >> > > > >
> >> > > >> > > >
> >> > > >> > > >--
> >> > > >> > > >To post a message to the list, send it to=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To=3D3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> =3D3D3D3D3D
> >> > > >>=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> > > >unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a=3D20
> >> message=3D3D3D20=3D3D20=3D20
> >> > > >> > > >to=3D3D3D3D3D3D20=3D3D3D3D3D20 =
jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx =3D
> > with=3D3D20
> >> > the word=3D3D3D20=3D3D20
> >> > > >> > > >unsubscribe in the=3D3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> > > subject line.
> >> > > >> > > >Archives located at:=20
> //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
> >> > > >> > > >
> >> > > >> > > >If you have any concerns about the list, post=3D20
> >> received =3D3D3D3D
> >> > > > from=3D3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> > > the list,=3D3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> > > >or the way the list is being run, do not post them =3D
> > to=3D3D3D20
> >> > > the=3D3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> > > list. Rather=3D3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> > > >contact the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > > >> > > >
> >> > > >> > > >
> >> > > >> > > >--
> >> > > >> > > >No virus found in this incoming message.
> >> > > >> > > >Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.
> >> > > >> > > >Version: 7.0.296 / Virus Database: 265.6.3 - =3D
> > Release=3D3D3D20
> >> > > Date:=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> > 12/21/2004
> >> > > >> > > >
> >> > > >> > > >
> >> > > >> > > >
> >> > > >> > > >
> >> > > >> > > >--
> >> > > >> > > >No virus found in this outgoing message.
> >> > > >> > > >Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.
> >> > > >> > > >Version: 7.0.296 / Virus Database: 265.6.3 - =3D
> > Release=3D3D3D20
> >> > > Date:=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> > 12/21/2004
> >> > > >> > > >
> >> > > >> > > >--
> >> > > >> > > >To post a message to the list, send it to=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To=3D3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> =3D3D3D3D3D
> >> > > >>=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> > > >unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a=3D20
> >> message=3D3D3D20=3D3D20=3D20
> >> > > >> > > >to=3D3D3D3D3D3D20=3D3D3D3D3D20 =
jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx =3D
> > with=3D3D20
> >> > the word=3D3D3D20=3D3D20
> >> > > >> > > >unsubscribe in the=3D3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> > > subject line.
> >> > > >> > > >Archives located at:=20
> //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
> >> > > >> > > >
> >> > > >> > > >If you have any concerns about the list, post=3D20
> >> received =3D3D3D3D
> >> > > > from=3D3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> > > the list,=3D3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> > > >or the way the list is being run, do not post them =3D
> > to=3D3D3D20
> >> > > the=3D3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> > > list. Rather=3D3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> > > >contact the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > > >> > >=3D3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> > > --
> >> > > >> > > To post a message to the list, send it to=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D3D3D3D3D3D20  To
> >> > > >> =3D3D3D3D3D
> >> > > >>=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> > >unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a =
message=3D3D3D20
> >> > > to=3D3D3D3D3D3D20 =3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >=3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> > >jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe =3D3D
> >> in=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> > the=3D3D3D3D3D3D20  subject=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> > >line.
> >> > > >> > > Archives located at:=20
> //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
> >> > > >> > >=3D3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> > > If you have any concerns about the list, post=3D20
> >> received=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> from=3D3D3D3D3D3D20  =3D3D3D3D3D
> >> > > >> the=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> > >list, or the way the list is being run, do not=20
> post=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> them=3D3D3D3D3D3D20  to the
> >> > > >> =3D3D3D3D3D
> >> > > >>=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> > >list. Rather contact the list owner at=3D3D3D3D3D3D20  =
=3D
> > =3D3D3D3D3D
> >> > > >> jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > > >> > >=3D3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> > >=3D3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> > > --
> >> > > >> > > No virus found in this incoming message.
> >> > > >> > > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.
> >> > > >> > > Version: 7.0.296 / Virus Database: 265.6.3 -=20
> Release =3D3D3D
> >> > Date:=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> > 12/21/2004=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> > >=3D3D3D3D3D3D20 =3D3D3D3D3D3D20 =3D3D3D3D3D3D20=20
> =3D3D3D3D3D3D20 =3D20
> >> --=3D3D3D3D3D3D20
> >>=3D20
> >> > > >> > >=3D3D
> >>  No=3D3D20
> >> > > >> > >virus=3D3D3D20
> >> > > found in this
> >> > >=3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> > >=3D3D3D3D
> >> > > > outgoing =3D3D3D3D3D
> >> > > >> message.
> >> > > >> > > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.
> >> > > >> > > Version: 7.0.296 / Virus Database: 265.6.3 -=20
> Release =3D3D3D
> >> > Date:=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> > 12/21/2004=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> > >=3D3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> > > --
> >> > > >> > > To post a message to the list, send it to=3D3D20
> >> > jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx  =3D3D3D
> >> > =3D3D3D3D
> >> > > > To=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> > >unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a =
message=3D3D3D20
> >> > > to=3D3D3D3D3D3D20 =3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >=3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> > >jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe =3D3D
> >> in=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> > the=3D3D3D3D3D3D20  subject=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> > >line.
> >> > > >> > > Archives located at:=20
> //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
> >> > > >> > >=3D3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> > > If you have any concerns about the list, post=3D20
> >> received=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> from=3D3D3D3D3D3D20  =3D3D3D3D3D
> >> > > >> the=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> > >list, or the way the list is being run, do not=20
> post=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> them=3D3D3D3D3D3D20  to the
> >> > > >> =3D3D3D3D3D
> >> > > >>=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> > >list. Rather contact the list owner at=3D3D3D3D3D3D20  =
=3D
> > =3D3D3D3D3D
> >> > > >> jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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> > ------------------------------
> >
> > From: "chevelle" <chevelle33@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Subject: Re: sounds manager
> > Date: Thu, 30 Dec 2004 12:56:47 -0500
> >
> > First of all it is basics, go and check. Second of all it=20
> is the same just
> > different question. You aren't all that special to where=20
> you can change=20
> > the
> > rules to fit your needs. It is exactly the same thing. YOu=20
> are so stupid!
> > ----- Original Message -----=20
> > From: "david poehlman" <david.poehlman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 12:29 PM
> > Subject: Re: sounds manager
> >
> >
> >>I asked whre is basics because there is no basics.  it is=20
> called basic.
> >> This is different than me telling someone to do something=20
> they can do.
> >>
> >> This is the end of what I will say on the list on this topic.
> >>
> >> Johnnie Apple Seed
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----=20
> >> From: "chevelle" <chevelle33@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 12:07 PM
> >> Subject: Re: sounds manager
> >>
> >>
> >> Listen, you did the same thing to me when I explained something to
> >> someone.
> >> I said go to basics. You sent a stupid post saying where=20
> is the baics?
> >> when
> >> you knew darned well where the baics is so don't talk=20
> about wasting time,
> >> and what is off topic. You can dish it out, but you can't=20
> take it can=20
> >> you!
> >> ----- Original Message -----=20
> >> From: "david poehlman" <david.poehlman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 9:59 AM
> >> Subject: Re: sounds manager
> >>
> >>
> >>> then they should ask. this is getting off topic.  If you=20
> have a problem
> >>> with
> >>> something I post, I suggest you write me privately and=20
> perhaps we can
> >>> streighten it out.  I use correct terminology in my=20
> posts.  If people
> >>> need
> >>> more specificis, I am happy to furnish them but if people=20
> just want to
> >>> waste
> >>> time, I can do that too.
> >>>
> >>> Johnnie Apple Seed
> >>>
> >>> ----- Original Message -----=20
> >>> From: "chevelle" <chevelle33@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>> Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 9:02 AM
> >>> Subject: Re: sounds manager
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> YOu didn't tell them how to open the default manager.=20
> Maybe they dont
> >>> know
> >>> how to do that.
> >>> ----- Original Message -----=20
> >>> From: "david poehlman" <david.poehlman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>> Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 8:44 PM
> >>> Subject: Re: sounds manager
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>I told someone to open default configuration manager.
> >>>>
> >>>> Johnnie Apple Seed
> >>>>
> >>>> ----- Original Message -----=20
> >>>> From: "chevelle" <chevelle33@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 8:33 PM
> >>>> Subject: Re: sounds manager
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Look at your won post. You told someone to choose=20
> default. How! do!=20
> >>>> you!
> >>>> choose! the default!
> >>>> ----- Original Message -----=20
> >>>> From: "david poehlman" <david.poehlman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 8:22 PM
> >>>> Subject: Re: sounds manager
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> what default?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Johnnie Apple Seed
> >>>>>
> >>>>> ----- Original Message -----=20
> >>>>> From: "chevelle" <chevelle33@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>>>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 8:19 PM
> >>>>> Subject: Re: sounds manager
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> That doesn't explain how you choose the default.
> >>>>> ----- Original Message -----=20
> >>>>> From: "david poehlman" <david.poehlman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>>>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 7:50 PM
> >>>>> Subject: Re: sounds manager
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> default is classic.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Johnnie Apple Seed
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> ----- Original Message -----=20
> >>>>>> From: "chevelle" <chevelle33@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>>>>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 7:36 PM
> >>>>>> Subject: Re: sounds manager
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> How do you choose the default, and how do you get to=20
> the speech and
> >>>>>> sounds
> >>>>>> manager?
> >>>>>> ----- Original Message -----=20
> >>>>>> From: "david poehlman"=20
> <david.poehlman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>>>>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 6:26 PM
> >>>>>> Subject: Re: sounds manager
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> speech and sounds manager is simple but there are a=20
> lot of choices=20
> >>>>>>> to
> >>>>>>> make
> >>>>>>> or to choose from among.  You must look through it=20
> and figure out
> >>>>>>> what
> >>>>>>> yu
> >>>>>>> want to do.  It is not hard to do any of it and you=20
> must also choose
> >>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>> app
> >>>>>>> you intend to work with.  Choose default if you wish=20
> by opening the
> >>>>>>> default
> >>>>>>> configuration manager and choosing speech and sounds=20
> manager and
> >>>>>>> opening
> >>>>>>> it
> >>>>>>> up, click edit scheme button and press space, the=20
> first tab is the
> >>>>>>> general
> >>>>>>> tab and you can leave the description the way it is,=20
> ctrl+tab to the
> >>>>>>> other
> >>>>>>> pages and look through the options and things you can=20
> ghance and
> >>>>>>> decide
> >>>>>>> what
> >>>>>>> to change.  If you want to change the way a slider sounds for
> >>>>>>> instance,
> >>>>>>> go
> >>>>>>> to the bottom of the list on the first page and then=20
> tab to the=20
> >>>>>>> group
> >>>>>>> of
> >>>>>>> four radio buttons and select the one you want the=20
> bahavior for.
> >>>>>>> Play
> >>>>>>> sound
> >>>>>>> is at the bottom, and for that, you must choose a wav=20
> file with the
> >>>>>>> next
> >>>>>>> button in tab order.  Once yu are done with the=20
> settings, click ok
> >>>>>>> and
> >>>>>>> ok
> >>>>>>> again if need be, close and save.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Johnnie Apple Seed
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----=20
> >>>>>>> From: <ptusing@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>>>>>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 5:40 PM
> >>>>>>> Subject: sounds manager
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Hi,
> >>>>>>> Could some one for the sake of argument go through=20
> like  the  steps
> >>>>>>> in
> >>>>>>> order
> >>>>>>> for setting the sounds  manager to put a sound on to let's say
> >>>>>>> something useful.
> >>>>>>> Thanks.
> >>>>>>> I was looking for this info as in sounds manager  in=20
> the JAWS  6=20
> >>>>>>> help
> >>>>>>> topics.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
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> > ------------------------------
> >
> > From: "david poehlman" <david.poehlman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Subject: Re: sounds manager
> > Date: Thu, 30 Dec 2004 13:10:10 -0500
> >
> > attacking me will get yu knowwhere.  This is getting way=20
> far out of hand.
> > How about we take it off list?
> >
> > Johnnie Apple Seed
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----=20
> > From: "chevelle" <chevelle33@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 12:56 PM
> > Subject: Re: sounds manager
> >
> >
> > First of all it is basics, go and check. Second of all it=20
> is the same just
> > different question. You aren't all that special to where=20
> you can change=20
> > the
> > rules to fit your needs. It is exactly the same thing. YOu=20
> are so stupid!
> > ----- Original Message -----=20
> > From: "david poehlman" <david.poehlman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 12:29 PM
> > Subject: Re: sounds manager
> >
> >
> >>I asked whre is basics because there is no basics.  it is=20
> called basic.
> >> This is different than me telling someone to do something=20
> they can do.
> >>
> >> This is the end of what I will say on the list on this topic.
> >>
> >> Johnnie Apple Seed
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----=20
> >> From: "chevelle" <chevelle33@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 12:07 PM
> >> Subject: Re: sounds manager
> >>
> >>
> >> Listen, you did the same thing to me when I explained something to
> >> someone.
> >> I said go to basics. You sent a stupid post saying where=20
> is the baics?
> >> when
> >> you knew darned well where the baics is so don't talk=20
> about wasting time,
> >> and what is off topic. You can dish it out, but you can't=20
> take it can=20
> >> you!
> >> ----- Original Message -----=20
> >> From: "david poehlman" <david.poehlman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 9:59 AM
> >> Subject: Re: sounds manager
> >>
> >>
> >>> then they should ask. this is getting off topic.  If you=20
> have a problem
> >>> with
> >>> something I post, I suggest you write me privately and=20
> perhaps we can
> >>> streighten it out.  I use correct terminology in my=20
> posts.  If people
> >>> need
> >>> more specificis, I am happy to furnish them but if people=20
> just want to
> >>> waste
> >>> time, I can do that too.
> >>>
> >>> Johnnie Apple Seed
> >>>
> >>> ----- Original Message -----=20
> >>> From: "chevelle" <chevelle33@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>> Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 9:02 AM
> >>> Subject: Re: sounds manager
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> YOu didn't tell them how to open the default manager.=20
> Maybe they dont
> >>> know
> >>> how to do that.
> >>> ----- Original Message -----=20
> >>> From: "david poehlman" <david.poehlman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>> Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 8:44 PM
> >>> Subject: Re: sounds manager
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>I told someone to open default configuration manager.
> >>>>
> >>>> Johnnie Apple Seed
> >>>>
> >>>> ----- Original Message -----=20
> >>>> From: "chevelle" <chevelle33@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 8:33 PM
> >>>> Subject: Re: sounds manager
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Look at your won post. You told someone to choose=20
> default. How! do!=20
> >>>> you!
> >>>> choose! the default!
> >>>> ----- Original Message -----=20
> >>>> From: "david poehlman" <david.poehlman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 8:22 PM
> >>>> Subject: Re: sounds manager
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> what default?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Johnnie Apple Seed
> >>>>>
> >>>>> ----- Original Message -----=20
> >>>>> From: "chevelle" <chevelle33@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>>>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 8:19 PM
> >>>>> Subject: Re: sounds manager
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> That doesn't explain how you choose the default.
> >>>>> ----- Original Message -----=20
> >>>>> From: "david poehlman" <david.poehlman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>>>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 7:50 PM
> >>>>> Subject: Re: sounds manager
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> default is classic.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Johnnie Apple Seed
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> ----- Original Message -----=20
> >>>>>> From: "chevelle" <chevelle33@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>>>>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 7:36 PM
> >>>>>> Subject: Re: sounds manager
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> How do you choose the default, and how do you get to=20
> the speech and
> >>>>>> sounds
> >>>>>> manager?
> >>>>>> ----- Original Message -----=20
> >>>>>> From: "david poehlman"=20
> <david.poehlman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>>>>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 6:26 PM
> >>>>>> Subject: Re: sounds manager
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> speech and sounds manager is simple but there are a=20
> lot of choices=20
> >>>>>>> to
> >>>>>>> make
> >>>>>>> or to choose from among.  You must look through it=20
> and figure out
> >>>>>>> what
> >>>>>>> yu
> >>>>>>> want to do.  It is not hard to do any of it and you=20
> must also choose
> >>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>> app
> >>>>>>> you intend to work with.  Choose default if you wish=20
> by opening the
> >>>>>>> default
> >>>>>>> configuration manager and choosing speech and sounds=20
> manager and
> >>>>>>> opening
> >>>>>>> it
> >>>>>>> up, click edit scheme button and press space, the=20
> first tab is the
> >>>>>>> general
> >>>>>>> tab and you can leave the description the way it is,=20
> ctrl+tab to the
> >>>>>>> other
> >>>>>>> pages and look through the options and things you can=20
> ghance and
> >>>>>>> decide
> >>>>>>> what
> >>>>>>> to change.  If you want to change the way a slider sounds for
> >>>>>>> instance,
> >>>>>>> go
> >>>>>>> to the bottom of the list on the first page and then=20
> tab to the=20
> >>>>>>> group
> >>>>>>> of
> >>>>>>> four radio buttons and select the one you want the=20
> bahavior for.
> >>>>>>> Play
> >>>>>>> sound
> >>>>>>> is at the bottom, and for that, you must choose a wav=20
> file with the
> >>>>>>> next
> >>>>>>> button in tab order.  Once yu are done with the=20
> settings, click ok
> >>>>>>> and
> >>>>>>> ok
> >>>>>>> again if need be, close and save.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Johnnie Apple Seed
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----=20
> >>>>>>> From: <ptusing@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>>>>>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 5:40 PM
> >>>>>>> Subject: sounds manager
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Hi,
> >>>>>>> Could some one for the sake of argument go through=20
> like  the  steps
> >>>>>>> in
> >>>>>>> order
> >>>>>>> for setting the sounds  manager to put a sound on to let's say
> >>>>>>> something useful.
> >>>>>>> Thanks.
> >>>>>>> I was looking for this info as in sounds manager  in=20
> the JAWS  6=20
> >>>>>>> help
> >>>>>>> topics.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
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> > ------------------------------
> >
> > From: "Steven E. Marks" <steven@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Subject: Re: Windows Up Date settings with JFW
> > Date: Thu, 30 Dec 2004 13:17:21 -0500
> >
> > Chris,
> >
> > I don't think it makes any difference in the three=20
> settings.  It's just a
> > personal preference on how you what to get your up-dates. =20
> I have mine set
> > to download and notify me when they are ready to install. =20
> I just like to
> > know when and what kind of up-date is being installed.
> >
> > Steven
> > ----- Original Message -----=20
> > From: "Chris & Mary" <cmchaffin@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 10:37 AM
> > Subject: Re: Windows Up Date settings with JFW
> >
> >
> > Hi all,
> > At this moment I have my windows updates set to=20
> automatically download and
> > install.  I want to change this setting to either: download=20
> updates for=20
> > me,
> > but do not install them, or, notify me when there are=20
> updates but do not
> > download or install them.  Are there any pros and cons to=20
> doing one of=20
> > these
> > settings over the other?
> > Thanks for the help,
> > Chris Chaffin
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----=20
> > From: "david poehlman" <david.poehlman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 10:13 AM
> > Subject: Re: Windows Up Date settings with JFW
> >
> >
> >> this is automatic updates and no matter which version of=20
> jaws you are
> >> using,
> >> you will find automatic updates in controll panel. =20
> Activating this item
> >> brings up a dialog providing choices for settings.
> >>
> >> Johnnie Apple Seed
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----=20
> >> From: "AB7HW Dick Lee Chrisman" <ab7hw@xxxxxxx>
> >> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 11:27 PM
> >> Subject: Windows Up Date settings with JFW
> >>
> >>
> >> Hello All
> >> Using JFW 5.00.844 how do I find the Windows XP up date=20
> settings?  I want
> >> to
> >> make sure the Windows XP up date is set to manual.
> >> I look forward to your information.
> >> Dick
> >>
> >>
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> > ------------------------------
> >
> > From: "Steve" <k8sp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Subject: Re: JFW and the security testing products from grc.com
> > Date: Thu, 30 Dec 2004 13:33:43 -0500
> >
> > Pranav,
> >
> > Go to GRC.com.  After a small blurb about his hard disk=20
> utility, you will=20
> > see
> > his page load.  Find the shieldsUp link and press enter.
> >
> > Now, you can use the forms field f key to find the proceed=20
> button.  Press
> > spacebar on it.
> >
> > Now, you will have several buttons available for different=20
> aspects of the
> > ShieldsUp tests.  There are file-sharing, common ports=20
> probe, all service
> > ports probe, Messenger spam probe, browser header, or a=20
> custom port edit=20
> > field
> > where you can enter any port number from 0 to 65000=20
> followed by the custom
> > port button.
> >
> > To activate any of these, find the button you are=20
> interested in.  It is
> > recommended that new users start with file-sharing and then=20
> common port=20
> > probe.
> > So, find file-sharing button using your f key.  Route JFW=20
> to PC with the
> > insert-minus key.  Using a rapid doble-click of the=20
> left-mouse emulation=20
> > key
> > with the numpade slash key.
> >
> > You will soon see the results on the web page.
> >
> >
> > Hope this was helpful.
> >
> > Steve
> > Lansing, MI
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > From: <eloheem@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Subject: Re: Jaws for Iraq veterans!
> > Date: Thu, 30 Dec 2004 14:03:39 -0500
> >
> > I would be graciously glad to help in any aspect of this=20
> effort, contact=20
> > me
> > off list for my information..Eloheem
> > ----- Original Message -----=20
> > From: "David Hardingham" <jarhead4@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 4:36 PM
> > Subject: Re: Jaws for Iraq veterans!
> >
> >
> >> Hi Jim, I would be interested in any program like that. I=20
> am not the best
> > at
> >> jaws but have been using it for several years now. I am=20
> also a Marine
> > Corps
> >> veteran and served in a rifle company during the Vietnam=20
> war. I did not
> > lose
> >> my eyesight in combat however what I went through there=20
> contributed to my
> >> eyesight loss.
> >>
> >> Therefore I may be able to give emotional support for=20
> these guys as well
> > as
> >> help with jaws.
> >>
> >> Best,
> >>
> >> David
> >> ----- Original Message -----=20
> >> From: "G.W. Cox" <gwcox2@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 2:18 PM
> >> Subject: Re: Jaws for Iraq veterans!
> >>
> >>
> >> > If you want email, you might give your email address.
> >> > ----- Original Message -----=20
> >> > From: "Jim Talley" <nrg.jim@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 11:21 AM
> >> > Subject: Re: Jaws for Iraq veterans!
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > > The mentoring program is for veterans waiting to get=20
> into training
> >> > > centers,
> >> > > it is meant to be implemented on a local basis. So if=20
> this is of
> >> interest
> >> > > to
> >> > > anyone they can e-mail me and provide there city and=20
> state also there
> >> > > phone
> >> > > number. I could possibly  match-up a mentor with a veteran.
> >> > > SERENDIPITY
> >> > > ----- Original Message -----=20
> >> > > From: "Tonia" <tonton@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > > Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2004 3:50 PM
> >> > > Subject: RE: Jaws for Iraq veterans!
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >> Hi Jim!  The Project Assist tutorials, from the Iowa=20
> Department for
> > the
> >> > >> Blind are very good step by step lessons.  I f you're=20
> not familiar
> > with
> >> > >> them, you can learn more by going to www.b.ind.state.ia.us.
> >> > >>
> >> > >> Also, how could others sign up to be tech mentors if=20
> interested?
> >> > >>
> >> > >> Thanks!
> >> > >>
> >> > >> Tonia
> >> > >>
> >> > >> -----Original Message-----
> >> > >> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=20
> [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> >> > >> Behalf Of Jim Talley
> >> > >> Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2004 12:45 PM
> >> > >> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > >> Subject: Jaws for Iraq veterans!
> >> > >>
> >> > >>
> >> > >> Hi Listers, the war in Iraq is producing a number of=20
> blind veterans.
> >> > >> There are 674 vets waiting to receive computer=20
> training as of June
> >> 2004,
> >> > >> these are waiting to be admitted to a resident=20
> training program in
> > ten
> >> > >> centers across the country. The Veterans=20
> Administration and the=20
> >> > >> Blind
> >> > >> Veterans of America (BVA) is starting a Tech=20
> Mentoring program of
> > which
> >> > >> I am apart, what we need is a very basic fundamental=20
> JFW for Windows
> >> > >> training course One that could bee taught by a blind=20
> mentor or a
> >> sighted
> >> > >> instructor.I for the most part began my Jaws training=20
> with the F S
> >> > >> cassette tutorials, can any of you suggest a more=20
> expedient means of
> >> > >> teaching Jaws to these newly blinded veterans? Your=20
> collective=20
> >> > >> wisdom
> >> > >> will be greatly appreciated.
> >> > >> --
> >> > >> To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > >> To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to
> >> > >> jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe=20
> in the subject
> >> line.
> >> > >> Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
> >> > >>
> >> > >> If you have any concerns about the list, post=20
> received from the=20
> >> > >> list,
> >> or
> >> > >> the way the list is being run, do not post them to=20
> the list. Rather
> >> > >> contact the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > >>
> >> > >> --
> >> > >> To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > >> To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to
> >> > >> jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe=20
> in the subject
> >> line.
> >> > >> Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
> >> > >>
> >> > >> If you have any concerns about the list, post=20
> received from the=20
> >> > >> list,
> >> or
> >> > >> the way the list is being run, do not post them to=20
> the list. Rather
> >> > >> contact the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > >>
> >> > >
> >> > > --
> >> > > To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > > To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to
> >> > > jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in=20
> the subject
> > line.
> >> > > Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
> >> > >
> >> > > If you have any concerns about the list, post received=20
> from the list,
> > or
> >> > > the way the list is being run, do not post them to the=20
> list. Rather
> >> > > contact the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to
> >> jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the=20
> subject line.
> >> > Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
> >> >
> >> > If you have any concerns about the list, post received=20
> from the list,=20
> >> > or
> >> the way the list is being run, do not post them to the list. Rather
> > contact
> >> the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>
> >> --
> >> To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to
> > jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the=20
> subject line.
> >> Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
> >>
> >> If you have any concerns about the list, post received=20
> from the list, or
> > the way the list is being run, do not post them to the list. Rather=20
> > contact
> > the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > From: "Walter Siren" <wsiren@xxxxxxx>
> > Subject: Re: Oe hotkey won't work in jaws 6.
> > Date: Thu, 30 Dec 2004 13:13:02 -0600
> >
> > actually, if I tab from the to field, I have to tab four=20
> times to get into=20
> > the messsage body, while with earlier
> > versions of jaws, I only had to tab three times.  Now, I=20
> don't have the=20
> > bcc field showing.  I am using windows 98 se.
> > Walter Siren
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: <ptusing@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 11:05 AM
> > Subject: Re: Oe hotkey won't work in jaws 6.
> >
> >
> >> Hi,  Walter,
> >> The  "alt grave"  hot key is onet hing in  Outlook=20
> Expressthat doesw ork=20
> >> for
> >> me with JAWS 6.
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Walter Siren" <wsiren@xxxxxxx>
> >> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 11:19 AM
> >> Subject: Oe hotkey won't work in jaws 6.
> >>
> >>
> >> > I recently found a hotkey for OE.  This key is=20
> alt+grave, this hotkey
> >> allows one to skip from the to field in  a message
> >> > to the message body.  With jaws 6 however, it doesn't work.  Has=20
> >> > anybody
> >> else ran across this.
> >> > Walter Siren
> >> >
> >> > ----- Original Message -----
> >> > From: "Horspool, Matthew F." <drjaws@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 10:04 AM
> >> > Subject: RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was -=20
> Re: Bug Fixes=20
> >> > in
> >> JAWS 6.0
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > > I'm using a 2.53 GHz processor.  I think the other=20
> figure was from an
> >> > > old laptop.
> >> > > -------------------------
> >> > > Mr. Matthew F. Horspool
> >> > >
> >> > > Send me an Electronic Mail to
> >> > > drjaws@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > >
> >> > > Add
> >> > > horspool@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > > to your MSN contact list
> >> > >
> >> > > Or Visit my web site at
> >> > > http://www.horspool.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk
> >> > > -------------------------
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > -----Original Message-----
> >> > > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=20
> [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> >> > > Behalf Of david poehlman
> >> > > Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 3:23 PM
> >> > > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > > Subject: Re: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was=20
> - Re: Bug Fixes=20
> >> > > in
> >> > > JAWS 6.0
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > What do you get then when you look at system in controll panel?
> >> > >
> >> > > Johnnie Apple Seed
> >> > >
> >> > > ----- Original Message -----
> >> > > From: "Horspool, Matthew F." <drjaws@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > > Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 10:13 AM
> >> > > Subject: RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was=20
> - Re: Bug Fixes=20
> >> > > in
> >> > >
> >> > > JAWS 6.0
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > Right.  I used the System Information tool and saved=20
> in plain text.
> >> > >
> >> > > -------------------------
> >> > > Mr. Matthew F. Horspool
> >> > >
> >> > > Send me an Electronic Mail to
> >> > > drjaws@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > >
> >> > > Add
> >> > > horspool@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > > to your MSN contact list
> >> > >
> >> > > Or Visit my web site at=20
> http://www.horspool.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk
> >> > > -------------------------
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > -----Original Message-----
> >> > > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=20
> [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> >> > > Behalf Of david poehlman
> >> > > Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 3:11 PM
> >> > > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > > Subject: Re: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was=20
> - Re: Bug Fixes=20
> >> > > in
> >> > > JAWS 6.0
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > matt,
> >> > >
> >> > > If you go to control panel, open system and read with=20
> the jaws cursor=20
> >> > > or
> >> > >
> >> > > ins+b, you are told in plain english what system you=20
> have.  I'm not=20
> >> > > sure
> >> > > what you are running to get the result you have below,=20
> but thought=20
> >> > > this
> >> > > might help.
> >> > >
> >> > > Johnnie Apple Seed
> >> > >
> >> > > ----- Original Message -----
> >> > > From: "Horspool, Matthew F." <drjaws@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > > Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 3:26 AM
> >> > > Subject: RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was=20
> - Re: Bug Fixes=20
> >> > > in
> >> > >
> >> > > JAWS 6.0
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > OK, I thought I got it right, but when I interrogated=20
> the system this
> >> > > line came up:
> >> > > Processor: x86 Family 15 Model 2 Stepping 7=20
> GenuineIntel ~2532 MhZ
> >> > >
> >> > > If I interpreted this line correctly I have a 2532MhZ=20
> processor!
> >> > >
> >> > > -------------------------
> >> > > Mr. Matthew F. Horspool
> >> > >
> >> > > Send me an Electronic Mail to
> >> > > drjaws@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > >
> >> > > Add
> >> > > horspool@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > > to your MSN contact list
> >> > >
> >> > > Or Visit my web site at=20
> http://www.horspool.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk
> >> > > -------------------------
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > -----Original Message-----
> >> > > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=20
> [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> >> > > Behalf Of Chip Orange
> >> > > Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 5:13 PM
> >> > > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > > Subject: RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was=20
> - Re: Bug Fixes=20
> >> > > in
> >> > > JAWS 6.0
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > If you got that right (and it's not a typo) and your=20
> processor speed=20
> >> > > was
> >> > > only 256 mhz, then I could see why switching to a hardware=20
> >> > > synthesizer
> >> > > had such an improvement for you.  That was quite a=20
> load for your=20
> >> > > system.
> >> > >
> >> > > Chip
> >> > >
> >> > > =3D20
> >> > >
> >> > > > -----Original Message-----
> >> > > > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D20=20
> >> > > > [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> >> > > >On Behalf Of Horspool, Matthew F.
> >> > > > Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 12:05 PM
> >> > > > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > > > Subject: RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers -=20
> was - Re:=3D20  Bug
> >> > > >Fixes in JAWS 6.0 =3D20  Well I had 512MB RAM and about 256MHZ
> >> > > >Processors.  Running at=3D20  once I had a copy of=20
> WinAmp with the=20
> >> > > >Audio
> >> > > >stocker and=3D20  SHOUTcast plugin, Microsoft Outlook,=20
> SHOUTcast DNAS
> >> > > >(GUI),=3D20  BVentrilo and the Ventrilo Server, and a=20
> copy of JFW.
> >> > > >This=3D20  slowed down the system quite a bit. =3D20
> >> > > > -------------------------
> >> > > > Mr. Matthew F. Horspool
> >> > > > =3D20
> >> > > > Send me an Electronic Mail to
> >> > > > drjaws@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > > > =3D20
> >> > > > Add
> >> > > > horspool@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > > > to your MSN contact list
> >> > > > =3D20
> >> > > > Or Visit my web site at
> >> > > > http://www.horspool.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk
> >> > > > -------------------------
> >> > > >=3D20
> >> > > >=3D20
> >> > > > -----Original Message-----
> >> > > > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D20
> >> > > > [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Chip Orange
> >> > > > Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 4:38 PM
> >> > > > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > > > Subject: RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers -=20
> was - Re:=3D20
> >> > > > Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0
> >> > > >=3D20
> >> > > >=3D20
> >> > > > Ok,  this is the first opinion which strongly=20
> prefers one to=3D20
> >> > > > another for other than subjective reasons, and I=20
> appreciate it.
> >> > > >=3D20
> >> > > > Would you say the system you were using when you made =
the=3D20
> >> > > > switch was unusually slow, short of ram, or=20
> overloaded with=3D20
> >> > > > processing tasks?
> >> > > >=3D20
> >> > > > Thanks.
> >> > > >=3D20
> >> > > > Chip
> >> > > >=3D20
> >> > > > =3D3D20
> >> > > >=3D20
> >> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> >> > > > > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D3D20 =3D20
> >> > > > [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]=3D20
> >> > > > >On Behalf Of Horspool, Matthew F.
> >> > > > > Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 11:30 AM
> >> > > > > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > > > > Subject: RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers -=20
> was - Re:=3D3D20=20
> >> > > > > =3D
> >> > > Bug=3D20
> >> > > > >Fixes in JAWS 6.0 =3D3D20  Used DECtalk ACCESS32 for=20
> about a=3D20
> >> > > > year and then=3D20
> >> > > > >switched to a=3D3D20  DECtalk USB for to get better=20
> broadcast=3D20
> >> > > > clarity.  I=3D20
> >> > > > >certainly=3D3D20  have noticed a huge difference in=20
> responsiveness:=20
> >> > > > >=3D
> >> > > The=3D20
> >> > > > >DEC=3D3D20  USB is faster - a lot faster!
> >> > > > >=3D3D20
> >> > > > > -------------------------
> >> > > > > Mr. Matthew F. Horspool
> >> > > > > =3D3D20
> >> > > > > Send me an Electronic Mail to
> >> > > > > drjaws@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > > > > =3D3D20
> >> > > > > Add
> >> > > > > horspool@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > > > > to your MSN contact list
> >> > > > > =3D3D20
> >> > > > > Or Visit my web site at =20
> http://www.horspool.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk
> >> > > > > -------------------------
> >> > > > >=3D3D20
> >> > > > >=3D3D20
> >> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> >> > > > > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D3D20
> >> > > > >[mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of John Miller
> >> > > > > Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 4:20 PM
> >> > > > > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > > > > Subject: Re: software vs. hardware synthesizers -=20
> was - Re:=3D3D20=20
> >> > > > > =3D
> >> > > Bug=3D20
> >> > > > >Fixes in JAWS 6.0 =3D3D20 =3D3D20  I don't notice it if so.
> >> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> >> > > > > From: "Chip Orange" <Corange@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > > > > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > > > > Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 10:47 AM
> >> > > > > Subject: RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers -=20
> was - Re:=3D3D20=20
> >> > > > > =3D
> >> > > Bug=3D20
> >> > > > >Fixes in =3D3D20  JAWS 6.0 =3D3D20 =3D3D20
> >> > > > > > Yes; and they do use some processor time.  The=20
> question is=20
> >> > > > > > that=3D20
> >> > >
> >> > > > > > on=3D3D20 todays systems, which usually have plenty of =
=3D
> >> > > processor=3D3D20
> >> > > > > speed and RAM,=3D3D20
> >> > > > > > does that really make any difference?
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > Now, I know that it does from reports on AT&T Natural
> >> > > > > > Voices=3D3D20=3D20 specifically, but I was wondering =
about=20
> >> > > > > > Eloquence.
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > Thanks.
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > Chip
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > =3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > >> -----Original Message-----
> >> > > > > >> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D3D3D20 =3D3D20
> >> > > > > [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]=3D3D20
> >> > > > > >>On Behalf Of Flor Lynch
> >> > > > > >> Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2004 9:00 PM
> >> > > > > >> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > > > > >> Subject: software vs. hardware synthesizers -=20
> was - Re:=3D3D20
> >> > > > > Bug=3D3D3D20  Fixes
> >> > > > >=3D3D20
> >> > > > > >>in JAWS 6.0 =3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > >> Software synths take up more RAM than hardware ones do.
> >> > > > > >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> > > > > >> From: "Chip Orange" <Corange@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > > > > >> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > > > > >> Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2004 2:22 PM
> >> > > > > >> Subject: RE: Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0
> >> > > > > >>=3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > >>=3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > >> Well, no argument with your first point, it is =
more=3D3D20
> >> > > > > difficult to have =3D3D20
> >> > > > > >>all of the sound coming out of one source; but,=20
> when you=3D3D20
> >> > > > > need to use =3D3D20
> >> > > > > >>headphones so as not to disturb someone else, it's also =
=3D
> >> > > more=3D3D3D20=3D20
> >> > > > > >>=3D3D20 convenient. =3D3D3D20  As for your second,=20
> that just=3D20
> >> > > > seems to come=3D20
> >> > > > > >>down to personal=3D3D3D20
> >> > > > =3D3D20
> >> > > > > >>preference  as it doesn't bother me a bit.
> >> > > > > >>=3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > >> There is one which you didn't mention, but=20
> which I've=3D3D20
> >> > > > > always wondered =3D3D20
> >> > > > > >>about, and that's how much of a load does=20
> Eloquence place=3D3D20
> >> > > > > on=3D3D3D20  your=3D3D20
> >> > > > > >>system  by having the software synth as compared to=20
> >> > > > > >>sending=3D3D20
> >> > > > > the text=3D3D20
> >> > > > > >>to be  spoken out of the serial port?  Anyone=20
> have any facts=3D20
> >> > > > > >>along=3D3D20 this
> >> > > > > line?
> >> > > > > >>=3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > >> Thanks.
> >> > > > > >>=3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > >> Chip
> >> > > > > >>=3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > >> =3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > >>=3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > >> > -----Original Message-----
> >> > > > > >> > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D3D3D3D20=3D3D20
> >> > > > > >> >[mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Kerri
> >> > > > > >> > Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2004 2:04 AM
> >> > > > > >> > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > > > > >> > Subject: Re: Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0 =3D3D3D3D20 =20
> Hello  Chip.=20
> >> > > > > >> > I=3D20
> >> > >
> >> > > > > >> >despise software synthesizers mainly=3D3D20
> >> > > > > because=3D3D3D3D20 if=3D3D20
> >> > > > > >> >you are required to listen to other media, I find =
it=3D20
> >> > > > to=3D3D3D3D20=3D3D20=3D20
> >> > > > > >> >difficult to with a software synthesizer=20
> coming through=3D20
> >> > > > the=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >=3D20
> >> > > > > >> >=3D3D
> >> > > >=3D20
> >> > > > > >> >same speakers. I also dislike elloquence's=20
> voice, *all of=20
> >> > > > > >> >them*
> >> > > > > >> > ----- Original Message -----
> >> > > > > >> > From: "Chip Orange" <Corange@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > > > > >> > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > > > > >> > Sent: Monday, December 27, 2004 12:02 PM
> >> > > > > >> > Subject: RE: Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0 =3D3D3D3D20=20
> =3D3D3D3D20=20
> >> > > > > >> > I'm=3D20
> >> > > > > >> >interested in hearing why, as I use a DT=20
> express at=3D3D20
> >> > > > > work,=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > >=3D3D20
> >> > > > > >> >and eloquence at home, and really haven't felt=20
> there's=3D20
> >> > > > much=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >=3D20
> >> > > > > >> >=3D3D
> >> > > >=3D20
> >> > > > > >> >difference.  Perhaps there's just something I'm=3D20
> >> > > > missing? =3D3D3D3D20 =3D20
> >> > > > > >> >Thanks.
> >> > > > > >> >=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > >> > Chip
> >> > > > > >> >=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > >> > =3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > >> >=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > >> > > -----Original Message-----
> >> > > > > >> > > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D3D3D3D3D20=3D3D20
> >> > > > > >> > >[mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Kerri
> >> > > > > >> > > Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2004 12:17 AM
> >> > > > > >> > > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > > > > >> > > Subject: Re: Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0=20
> =3D3D3D3D3D20  Chris,=20
> >> > > > > >> > > I=3D3D20
> >> > > > > vehemently=3D3D20
> >> > > > > >> > >despise software synthesizers hence=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > >> > my=3D3D3D3D3D20  dectalk=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > >> > >use and this is the only version that has been =3D3D
> >> > > > rather=3D3D3D3D3D20=3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > >>  sluggish.
> >> > > > > >> > > ----- Original Message -----
> >> > > > > >> > > From: "Chris Skarstad" <toonhead5@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > > > > >> > > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > > > > >> > > Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2004 4:15 PM
> >> > > > > >> > > Subject: Re: Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0=20
> =3D3D3D3D3D20 =3D3D3D3D3D20=20
> >> > > > > >> > > =3D
> >> > > =3D3D20
> >> > > > > man I guess=3D3D20
> >> > > > > >> > >I'm very lucky then. This version actually runs =
=3D3D3D
> >> > > > > > a=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > >> =3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > >> > >little faster on my system than 5.10 did.=20
> Then again=3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > >> I'm=3D3D3D3D3D20  using
> >> > > > > >> =3D3D3D3D
> >> > > > > >> a=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > >> > >hardware synthesizer which is probably the=3D20
> >> > > > reason.=3D3D3D3D3D20  =3D3D3D
> >> > > > > > Never=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > >> > did like=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > >> > >software speech and never will based on=20
> what=3D3D3D3D3D20=3D20
> >> > > >  I've=3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > >> seen.  By the
> >> > > > > >> =3D3D3D3D
> >> > > > > >>=3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > >> > >way, the murge feature is there. go=20
> to=3D3D3D3D3D20  your=3D20
> >> > > > jaws=3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > >> window with =3D3D3D3D
> >> > > > > >> alt=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > >> > >plus j, press alt u for=20
> utilities,=3D3D3D3D3D20  and it's =3D
> >> > > in=3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > >> there. or simply
> >> > > > > >> =3D3D3D3D
> >> > > > > >>=3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > >> > >bring up the context menu if=3D3D3D3D3D20 =20
> you're running=3D20
> >> > > > jaws in =3D3D
> >> > > > =3D3D3D
> >> > > > > > the=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > >> > system tray=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > >> > >and go to utilities=3D3D3D3D3D20  and the=20
> murge utility=3D20
> >> > > > is there.=3D3D20
> >> > > >=3D20
> >> > > > > >> > >=3D3D3D3D3D20  At 04:29 PM 12/21/2004, you wrote:
> >> > > > > >> > > >Hay, you mean, they haven't fixed any=20
> right? I'm=3D3D20
> >> > > > > sorry, I=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > >> > > just couldn't=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > >> > > >resist. In truth, this has been the worst version =
=3D
> >> > > I've=3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > >> had the=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > >> =3D3D3D3D
> >> > > > > >>=3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > >> > > >misfortune to deal with in a long while.=20
> It runs=3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > >> terribley slow,=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > >> > > >I'm=3D3D3D3D3D20 getting false attachments,=20
> no merge=3D20
> >> > > > feature=3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > >> anywhere. I=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > >> > > >love=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > >> > > spending=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > >> > > >money on this "improved" product. Sorry,=20
> I'm being a=20
> >> > > > > >> > > >grinch.
> >> > > > > >> > > >----- Original Message -----
> >> > > > > >> > > >From: "RJ" <rjf1@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > > > > >> > > >To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > > > > >> > > >Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2004 2:16 PM
> >> > > > > >> > > >Subject: Re: Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0
> >> > > > > >> > > >
> >> > > > > >> > > >
> >> > > > > >> > > >You are looking right, there just isn't=20
> any bugs.=3D3D20
> >> > > > > Smiling here.
> >> > > > > >> > > >----- Original Message -----
> >> > > > > >> > > >From: "Margaret Thomas" <iluvtoread@xxxxxxx>
> >> > > > > >> > > >To: "jfw" <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > > > > >> > > >Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2004 4:15 PM
> >> > > > > >> > > >Subject: Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0
> >> > > > > >> > > >
> >> > > > > >> > > >
> >> > > > > >> > > > > Good Afternoon,
> >> > > > > >> > > > >
> >> > > > > >> > > > >     I had a migraine when JAWS 6.0 was=20
> released =3D
> >> > > and=3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > >> am trying=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > >> > > > > to=3D3D3D3D3D20 catch up with list mail=20
> before=3D3D20
> >> > > > > installing the new =3D3D3D
> >> > > > > > =3D3D3D3D
> >> > > > > >> release.
> >> > > > > >> > > > >
> >> > > > > >> > > > >     I've looked over the What's New section for
> >> > > > > >> > > > > 6.0=3D3D20=3D20 and=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > >> > > could swear=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > >> > > > > that there used to be a section on bug=20
> fixes, but I'm=20
> >> > > > > >> > > > > =3D
> >> > > =3D3D3D
> >> > > > > > not=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > >> > > finding it=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > >> > > > > for this version.  Am I having another=20
> senior moment,=20
> >> > > > > >> > > > > =3D
> >> > > =3D3D3D
> >> > > > > > or=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > >> > > did FS not=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > >> > > > > do it this time, or am I looking in the=20
> wrong=3D3D20
> >> > > > > place on=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > >> > > the FS site? =3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > >> > > > > I've been looking at:
> >> > > > > >> > > > >
> >> > > > > >> > > > >
> >> > > > > >> > >=3D20
> >> > > >=20
> >http://www.freedomscientific.com/fs_products/software_jaws60f
> >> > > > > >> > > ea.asp#JAW
> >> > > > > >> > > >S_Features
> >> > > > > >> > > > >
> >> > > > > >> > > > >     Thanks,
> >> > > > > >> > > > > Margaret
> >> > > > > >> > > > > iluvtoread@xxxxxxx
> >> > > > > >> > > > >
> >> > > > > >> > > > > --
> >> > > > > >> > > > > To post a message to the list, send it=20
> to=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > >> > jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To=3D3D3D3D3D20=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > >> > > > > unsubscribe from this mailing list,=20
> send a message to
> >> > > > > >> > > >jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe
> >> > > > > >> > > >in=3D3D20=3D20 the=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > >> > > subject line.
> >> > > > > >> > > > > Archives located at:=3D20
> >> > > > //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
> >> > > > > >> > > > >
> >> > > > > >> > > > > If you have any concerns about the=20
> list, post =3D3D
> >> > > > received=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > >> > from the=3D3D3D3D3D20=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > >> > > > > list, or
> >> > > > > >> > > >the way the list is being run, do not post them to
> >> > > > > >> > > >the=3D3D20=3D20 list.=3D3D3D3D20=20
> Rather=3D3D3D3D3D20 contact the
> >> > > > > >> > > >list owner =3D
> >> > > at=3D3D20=3D20
> >> > > > > >> > > >jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > > > > >> > > > >
> >> > > > > >> > > >
> >> > > > > >> > > >--
> >> > > > > >> > > >To post a message to the list, send it to=3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > >> jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > >> =3D3D3D3D
> >> > > > > >>=3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > >> > > >unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a=20
> >> > > > > >> > > >message=3D3D20=3D20
> >> > > > > >> > > >to=3D3D3D3D3D20=3D3D3D3D20=20
> jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with=3D20
> >> > > > the word=3D3D20=3D20
> >> > > > > >> > > >unsubscribe in the=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > >> > > subject line.
> >> > > > > >> > > >Archives located at:=20
> >> > > > > >> > > >//www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
> >> > > > > >> > > >
> >> > > > > >> > > >If you have any concerns about the list,=20
> post received=20
> >> > > > > >> > > >=3D3D3D
> >> > > > > > from=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > >> > > the list,=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > >> > > >or the way the list is being run, do not post them=20
> >> > > > > >> > > >to=3D3D20
> >> > > > > the=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > >> > > list. Rather=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > >> > > >contact the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > > > > >> > > >
> >> > > > > >> > > >
> >> > > > > >> > > >--
> >> > > > > >> > > >No virus found in this incoming message.
> >> > > > > >> > > >Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.
> >> > > > > >> > > >Version: 7.0.296 / Virus Database: 265.6.3=20
> - Release=3D3D20
> >> > > > > Date:=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > >> > 12/21/2004
> >> > > > > >> > > >
> >> > > > > >> > > >
> >> > > > > >> > > >
> >> > > > > >> > > >
> >> > > > > >> > > >--
> >> > > > > >> > > >No virus found in this outgoing message.
> >> > > > > >> > > >Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.
> >> > > > > >> > > >Version: 7.0.296 / Virus Database: 265.6.3=20
> - Release=3D3D20
> >> > > > > Date:=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > >> > 12/21/2004
> >> > > > > >> > > >
> >> > > > > >> > > >--
> >> > > > > >> > > >To post a message to the list, send it to=3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > >> jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > >> =3D3D3D3D
> >> > > > > >>=3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > >> > > >unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a=20
> >> > > > > >> > > >message=3D3D20=3D20
> >> > > > > >> > > >to=3D3D3D3D3D20=3D3D3D3D20=20
> jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with=3D20
> >> > > > the word=3D3D20=3D20
> >> > > > > >> > > >unsubscribe in the=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > >> > > subject line.
> >> > > > > >> > > >Archives located at:=20
> >> > > > > >> > > >//www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
> >> > > > > >> > > >
> >> > > > > >> > > >If you have any concerns about the list,=20
> post received=20
> >> > > > > >> > > >=3D3D3D
> >> > > > > > from=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > >> > > the list,=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > >> > > >or the way the list is being run, do not post them=20
> >> > > > > >> > > >to=3D3D20
> >> > > > > the=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > >> > > list. Rather=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > >> > > >contact the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > > > > >> > >=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > >> > > --
> >> > > > > >> > > To post a message to the list, send it to=3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > >> jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D3D3D3D3D20  To
> >> > > > > >> =3D3D3D3D
> >> > > > > >>=3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > >> > >unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a=20
> message=3D3D20
> >> > > > > to=3D3D3D3D3D20 =3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > >=3D3D20
> >> > > > > >> > >jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe =
=3D
> >> > > in=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > >> > the=3D3D3D3D3D20  subject=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > >> > >line.
> >> > > > > >> > > Archives located at:=20
> //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
> >> > > > > >> > >=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > >> > > If you have any concerns about the list, post=20
> >> > > > > >> > > received=3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > >> from=3D3D3D3D3D20  =3D3D3D3D
> >> > > > > >> the=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > >> > >list, or the way the list is being run, do=20
> not post=3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > >> them=3D3D3D3D3D20  to the
> >> > > > > >> =3D3D3D3D
> >> > > > > >>=3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > >> > >list. Rather contact the list owner=20
> at=3D3D3D3D3D20  =3D3D3D3D
> >> > > > > >> jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > > > > >> > >=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > >> > >=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > >> > > --
> >> > > > > >> > > No virus found in this incoming message.
> >> > > > > >> > > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.
> >> > > > > >> > > Version: 7.0.296 / Virus Database: 265.6.3=20
> - Release =3D3D
> >> > > > Date:=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > >> > 12/21/2004=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > >> > >=3D3D3D3D3D20 =3D3D3D3D3D20 =3D3D3D3D3D20=20
> >> > > > > >> > >3D3D3D3D20  --=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >
> >> > > > > >> > >=3D
> >> > >  No=3D20
> >> > > > > >> > >virus=3D3D20
> >> > > > > found in this
> >> > > > >=3D3D20
> >> > > > > >> > >=3D3D3D
> >> > > > > > outgoing =3D3D3D3D
> >> > > > > >> message.
> >> > > > > >> > > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.
> >> > > > > >> > > Version: 7.0.296 / Virus Database: 265.6.3=20
> - Release =3D3D
> >> > > > Date:=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > >> > 12/21/2004=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > >> > >=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > >> > > --
> >> > > > > >> > > To post a message to the list, send it to=3D20
> >> > > > jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx  =3D3D
> >> > > > =3D3D3D
> >> > > > > > To=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > >> > >unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a=20
> message=3D3D20
> >> > > > > to=3D3D3D3D3D20 =3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > >=3D3D20
> >> > > > > >> > >jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe =
=3D
> >> > > in=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > >> > the=3D3D3D3D3D20  subject=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > >> > >line.
> >> > > > > >> > > Archives located at:=20
> //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
> >> > > > > >> > >=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > >> > > If you have any concerns about the list, post=20
> >> > > > > >> > > received=3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > >> from=3D3D3D3D3D20  =3D3D3D3D
> >> > > > > >> the=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > >> > >list, or the way the list is being run, do=20
> not post=3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > >> them=3D3D3D3D3D20  to the
> >> > > > > >> =3D3D3D3D
> >> > > > > >>=3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > >> > >list. Rather contact the list owner=20
> at=3D3D3D3D3D20  =3D3D3D3D
> >> > > > > >> jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > > > > >> > >=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > >> > --
> >> > > > > >> > To post a message to the list, send it to=3D3D20
> >> > > > > jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D3D3D3D20 To=3D3D20
> >> > > > > >> >unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message =3D
> >> > > to=3D3D3D3D20=3D3D20=3D20
> >> > > > > >> >jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word=20
> unsubscribe in=3D20
> >> > > > > >> >the=3D3D3D3D20=3D3D20 subject line.  Archives located =
at:
> >> > > > > >> >//www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
> >> > > > > >> >=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > >> > If you have any concerns about the list, post=20
> received =3D3D
> >> > > > from=3D3D3D3D20=3D3D20
> >> > > > > >> >the list, or the way the list is being run, do=20
> not post=3D3D20
> >> > > > > them=3D3D3D3D20 to=3D3D20
> >> > > > > >> >the list. Rather contact the list owner=20
> at=3D3D3D3D20=3D3D20=3D20
> >> > > > > >> >jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx =3D3D3D3D20 =3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > >> > --
> >> > > > > >> > No virus found in this incoming message.
> >> > > > > >> > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.
> >> > > > > >> > Version: 7.0.298 / Virus Database: 265.6.5 - Release =
=3D
> >> > > Date:=3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > >> 12/26/2004
> >> > > > > >> >=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > >> >=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > >> >=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > >> >=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > >> >=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > >> > --=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > >> > No virus found in this outgoing message.
> >> > > > > >> > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.
> >> > > > > >> > Version: 7.0.298 / Virus Database: 265.6.5 - Release =
=3D
> >> > > Date:=3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > >> 12/26/2004
> >> > > > > >> >=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > >> > --
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> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > From: Djasister2@xxxxxxx
> > Date: Thu, 30 Dec 2004 14:34:03 EST
> > Subject: Re: Windows Up Date settings with JFW
> >
> > Using, XP and jfw 5.1.
> > There  are updates in my system tray, that have, been there=20
> for awhile.  I
> > have my system set to automatic.  Should I be concerned?
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > From: "bc" <bc@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Subject: laptop hotkey question
> > Date: Thu, 30 Dec 2004 12:55:18 -0800
> >
> > Does anyone know how to assign the JawsKey to the Function key?
> >
> > I think it would work better than the Capslock key (for me=20
> at any rate).
> >
> > Thanks...
> >
> > Bryan
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > From: "shelly christner" <shelly4jericho@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Subject: how do i use windows media player with my jaws.
> > Date: Thu, 30 Dec 2004 14:55:42 -0600
> >
> > Hi there,
> > I was just wonderign if anybody could help me figure out how to use=20
> > windows
> > media player with jaws.
> > I have version five point zero of jaws.
> > and i have version ten of windows media player.
> > i really would like to no how to burn cds on my own instead=20
> of my always
> > having to ask my twin sister for help.thanks, and if you=20
> want any more=20
> > info
> > feel free to email me,
> > shelly
> >
> > _________________________________________________________________
> > Don't just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search!
> > http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > From: "david poehlman" <david.poehlman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Subject: Re: laptop hotkey question
> > Date: Thu, 30 Dec 2004 16:15:19 -0500
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > OPen keyboard manager with Jawskey+8 on the numbers row, =20
> Arrow up to
> > default, tab to the list of keys and press j till you hear=20
> jaws key, press
> > alt+a and press enter on add keystroke,
> > press the key stroke you want to add and press enter. =20
> Confirm and close.
> >
> > Johnnie Apple Seed
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----=20
> > From: "bc" <bc@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 3:55 PM
> > Subject: laptop hotkey question
> >
> >
> > Does anyone know how to assign the JawsKey to the Function key?
> >
> > I think it would work better than the Capslock key (for me=20
> at any rate).
> >
> > Thanks...
> >
> > Bryan
> >
> > --
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> >
> > If you have any concerns about the list, post received from=20
> the list, or=20
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> > way the list is being run, do not post them to the list.=20
> Rather contact=20
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> > list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > From: "Horspool, Matthew F." <drjaws@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Subject: RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re:=20
> Bug Fixes in=20
> > JAWS 6
> > Date: Thu, 30 Dec 2004 21:20:04 -0000
> >
> > I can't most of the time.  It's with things such as=20
> text/file selection
> > that it's noticable.
> >
> > -------------------------
> > Mr. Matthew F. Horspool
> >
> > Send me an Electronic Mail to
> > drjaws@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >
> > Add
> > horspool@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > to your MSN contact list
> >
> > Or Visit my web site at
> > http://www.horspool.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk
> > -------------------------
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> > Behalf Of Chip Orange
> > Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 5:44 PM
> > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re:=20
> Bug Fixes in
> > JAWS 6.0
> >
> >
> > Ok, then I'm surprised to hear that you could detect any=20
> difference in
> > responsiveness speed between software and hardware=20
> synthesizers (always
> > excluding natural voices from this discussion of course).
> >
> > =3D20
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D20 =20
> [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> >>On Behalf Of Horspool, Matthew F.
> >> Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 11:05 AM
> >> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> Subject: RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re:=3D20  =
Bug
> >>Fixes in JAWS 6.0 =3D20
> >> I'm using a 2.53 GHz processor.  I think the other figure was=3D20
> >> from an old laptop.
> >> -------------------------
> >> Mr. Matthew F. Horspool
> >> =3D20
> >> Send me an Electronic Mail to
> >> drjaws@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> =3D20
> >> Add
> >> horspool@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> to your MSN contact list
> >> =3D20
> >> Or Visit my web site at
> >> http://www.horspool.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk
> >> -------------------------
> >>=3D20
> >>=3D20
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D20
> >> [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of david poehlman
> >> Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 3:23 PM
> >> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> Subject: Re: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re:=3D20
> >> Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0
> >>=3D20
> >>=3D20
> >> What do you get then when you look at system in controll panel?
> >>=3D20
> >> Johnnie Apple Seed
> >>=3D20
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Horspool, Matthew F." <drjaws@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 10:13 AM
> >> Subject: RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re:=3D20
> >> Bug Fixes in
> >>=3D20
> >> JAWS 6.0
> >>=3D20
> >>=3D20
> >> Right.  I used the System Information tool and saved in plain text.
> >>=3D20
> >> -------------------------
> >> Mr. Matthew F. Horspool
> >>=3D20
> >> Send me an Electronic Mail to
> >> drjaws@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>=3D20
> >> Add
> >> horspool@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> to your MSN contact list
> >>=3D20
> >> Or Visit my web site at http://www.horspool.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk
> >> -------------------------
> >>=3D20
> >>=3D20
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D20
> >> [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of david poehlman
> >> Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 3:11 PM
> >> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> Subject: Re: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re:=3D20
> >> Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0
> >>=3D20
> >>=3D20
> >> matt,
> >>=3D20
> >> If you go to control panel, open system and read with the=3D20
> >> jaws cursor or
> >>=3D20
> >> ins+b, you are told in plain english what system you have. =3D20
> >> I'm not sure
> >> what you are running to get the result you have below,=20
> but=3D20  thought
> >
> >>this might help. =3D20
> >> Johnnie Apple Seed
> >>=3D20
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Horspool, Matthew F." <drjaws@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 3:26 AM
> >> Subject: RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re:=3D20
> >> Bug Fixes in
> >>=3D20
> >> JAWS 6.0
> >>=3D20
> >>=3D20
> >> OK, I thought I got it right, but when I interrogated the=3D20
> >> system this line came up:
> >> Processor: x86 Family 15 Model 2 Stepping 7 GenuineIntel ~2532 MhZ
> >>=3D20
> >> If I interpreted this line correctly I have a 2532MhZ processor!
> >>=3D20
> >> -------------------------
> >> Mr. Matthew F. Horspool
> >>=3D20
> >> Send me an Electronic Mail to
> >> drjaws@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>=3D20
> >> Add
> >> horspool@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> to your MSN contact list
> >>=3D20
> >> Or Visit my web site at http://www.horspool.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk
> >> -------------------------
> >>=3D20
> >>=3D20
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D20
> >> [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Chip Orange
> >> Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 5:13 PM
> >> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> Subject: RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re:=3D20
> >> Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0
> >>=3D20
> >>=3D20
> >> If you got that right (and it's not a typo) and your=3D20
> >> processor speed was only 256 mhz, then I could see why=3D20
> >> switching to a hardware synthesizer had such an improvement=3D20
> >> for you.  That was quite a load for your system.
> >>=3D20
> >> Chip
> >>=3D20
> >> =3D3D20
> >>=3D20
> >> > -----Original Message-----
> >> > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D3D20 =3D20
> >> [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]=3D20
> >> >On Behalf Of Horspool, Matthew F.
> >> > Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 12:05 PM
> >> > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > Subject: RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was -=20
> Re:=3D3D20  =3D
> > Bug=3D20
> >> >Fixes in JAWS 6.0 =3D3D20  Well I had 512MB RAM and about =
256MHZ=3D20
> >> >Processors.  Running at=3D3D20  once I had a copy of WinAmp =
with=3D20
> >> the Audio=3D20
> >> >stocker and=3D3D20  SHOUTcast plugin, Microsoft Outlook,=20
> SHOUTcast DNAS
> >
> >> >=3D
> >
> >> >(GUI),=3D3D20  BVentrilo and the Ventrilo Server, and a copy of =
JFW.
> >> >This=3D3D20  slowed down the system quite a bit. =3D3D20
> >> > -------------------------
> >> > Mr. Matthew F. Horspool
> >> > =3D3D20
> >> > Send me an Electronic Mail to
> >> > drjaws@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > =3D3D20
> >> > Add
> >> > horspool@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > to your MSN contact list
> >> > =3D3D20
> >> > Or Visit my web site at  http://www.horspool.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk
> >> > -------------------------
> >> >=3D3D20
> >> >=3D3D20
> >> > -----Original Message-----
> >> > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D3D20
> >> > [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Chip Orange
> >> > Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 4:38 PM
> >> > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > Subject: RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was -=20
> Re:=3D3D20  =3D
> > Bug=3D20
> >> >Fixes in JAWS 6.0 =3D3D20 =3D3D20  Ok,  this is the first opinion
> >> >which=3D20 strongly prefers one to=3D3D20  another for other =
than=3D20
> >> subjective reasons,=3D20
> >> >and I appreciate it.
> >> >=3D3D20
> >> > Would you say the system you were using when you made=3D20
> >> the=3D3D20  switch=3D20
> >> >was unusually slow, short of ram, or overloaded with=3D3D20=20
>  processing
> >
> >> >=3D
> >
> >> >tasks?
> >> >=3D3D20
> >> > Thanks.
> >> >=3D3D20
> >> > Chip
> >> >=3D3D20
> >> > =3D3D3D20
> >> >=3D3D20
> >> > > -----Original Message-----
> >> > > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D3D3D20 =3D3D20
> >> > [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]=3D3D20
> >> > >On Behalf Of Horspool, Matthew F.
> >> > > Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 11:30 AM
> >> > > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > > Subject: RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was -=3D20
> >> Re:=3D3D3D20  =3D3D
> >> Bug=3D3D20
> >> > >Fixes in JAWS 6.0 =3D3D3D20  Used DECtalk ACCESS32 for=20
> about a=3D3D20
> >> > year and then=3D3D20
> >> > >switched to a=3D3D3D20  DECtalk USB for to get better=20
> broadcast=3D3D20
> >> > clarity.  I=3D3D20
> >> > >certainly=3D3D3D20  have noticed a huge difference in=3D20
> >> responsiveness:  =3D3D
> >> The=3D3D20
> >> > >DEC=3D3D3D20  USB is faster - a lot faster!
> >> > >=3D3D3D20
> >> > > -------------------------
> >> > > Mr. Matthew F. Horspool
> >> > > =3D3D3D20
> >> > > Send me an Electronic Mail to
> >> > > drjaws@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > > =3D3D3D20
> >> > > Add
> >> > > horspool@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > > to your MSN contact list
> >> > > =3D3D3D20
> >> > > Or Visit my web site at =20
> http://www.horspool.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk
> >> > > -------------------------
> >> > >=3D3D3D20
> >> > >=3D3D3D20
> >> > > -----Original Message-----
> >> > > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D3D3D20=3D20
> >> > >[mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of John Miller
> >> > > Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 4:20 PM
> >> > > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > > Subject: Re: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was -=3D20
> >> Re:=3D3D3D20  =3D3D
> >> Bug=3D3D20
> >> > >Fixes in JAWS 6.0 =3D3D3D20 =3D3D3D20  I don't notice it if so.
> >> > > ----- Original Message -----
> >> > > From: "Chip Orange" <Corange@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > > Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 10:47 AM
> >> > > Subject: RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was -=3D20
> >> Re:=3D3D3D20  =3D3D
> >> Bug=3D3D20
> >> > >Fixes in =3D3D3D20  JAWS 6.0 =3D3D3D20 =3D3D3D20
> >> > > > Yes; and they do use some processor time.  The question=3D20
> >> is that=3D3D20
> >>=3D20
> >> > > > on=3D3D3D20 todays systems, which usually have plenty of =
=3D3D
> >> processor=3D3D3D20
> >> > > speed and RAM,=3D3D3D20
> >> > > > does that really make any difference?
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Now, I know that it does from reports on AT&T Natural=3D20
> >> > > > Voices=3D3D3D20=3D3D20 specifically, but I was wondering =
about=3D20
> >> Eloquence.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Thanks.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Chip
> >> > > >
> >> > > > =3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >
> >> > > >> -----Original Message-----
> >> > > >> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D3D3D3D20 =3D3D3D20
> >> > > [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]=3D3D3D20
> >> > > >>On Behalf Of Flor Lynch
> >> > > >> Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2004 9:00 PM
> >> > > >> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > > >> Subject: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was -=20
> Re:=3D3D3D20
> >> > > Bug=3D3D3D3D20  Fixes
> >> > >=3D3D3D20
> >> > > >>in JAWS 6.0 =3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> Software synths take up more RAM than hardware ones do.
> >> > > >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> > > >> From: "Chip Orange" <Corange@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > > >> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > > >> Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2004 2:22 PM
> >> > > >> Subject: RE: Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0 =3D3D3D3D20=20
> =3D3D3D3D20  Well, =3D
> > no=3D20
> >> > > >>argument with your first point, it is more=3D3D3D20
> >> > > difficult to have =3D3D3D20
> >> > > >>all of the sound coming out of one source; but, when=20
> you=3D3D3D20
> >> > > need to use =3D3D3D20
> >> > > >>headphones so as not to disturb someone else, it's also =3D3D
> >> more=3D3D3D3D20=3D3D20
> >> > > >>=3D3D3D20 convenient. =3D3D3D3D20  As for your second, that =
=3D
> > just=3D3D20
> >> > seems to come=3D3D20
> >> > > >>down to personal=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > =3D3D3D20
> >> > > >>preference  as it doesn't bother me a bit.
> >> > > >>=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> There is one which you didn't mention, but which =
I've=3D3D3D20
> >> > > always wondered =3D3D3D20
> >> > > >>about, and that's how much of a load does Eloquence=20
> place=3D3D3D20
> >> > > on=3D3D3D3D20  your=3D3D3D20
> >> > > >>system  by having the software synth as compared to =3D
> > sending=3D3D3D20
> >> > > the text=3D3D3D20
> >> > > >>to be  spoken out of the serial port?  Anyone have any =3D
> > facts=3D3D20=3D20
> >> > > >>along=3D3D3D20 this
> >> > > line?
> >> > > >>=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> Thanks.
> >> > > >>=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> Chip
> >> > > >>=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> =3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >>=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> > -----Original Message-----
> >> > > >> > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D3D3D3D3D20=3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> >[mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Kerri
> >> > > >> > Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2004 2:04 AM
> >> > > >> > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > > >> > Subject: Re: Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0 =3D3D3D3D3D20  Hello =
=3D20
> >> Chip. I=3D3D20
> >>=3D20
> >> > > >> >despise software synthesizers mainly=3D3D3D20
> >> > > because=3D3D3D3D3D20 if=3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> >you are required to listen to other media, I find it=3D3D20
> >> > to=3D3D3D3D3D20=3D3D3D20=3D3D20
> >> > > >> >difficult to with a software synthesizer coming=20
> through=3D3D20
> >> > the=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> >=3D3D20
> >> > > >> >=3D3D3D
> >> >=3D3D20
> >> > > >> >same speakers. I also dislike elloquence's voice,=3D20
> >> *all of them*
> >> > > >> > ----- Original Message -----
> >> > > >> > From: "Chip Orange" <Corange@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > > >> > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > > >> > Sent: Monday, December 27, 2004 12:02 PM
> >> > > >> > Subject: RE: Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0 =3D3D3D3D3D20=3D20
> >> =3D3D3D3D3D20  I'm=3D3D20=3D20
> >> > > >> >interested in hearing why, as I use a DT express =
at=3D3D3D20
> >> > > work,=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >=3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> >and eloquence at home, and really haven't felt =
there's=3D3D20
> >> > much=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> >=3D3D20
> >> > > >> >=3D3D3D
> >> >=3D3D20
> >> > > >> >difference.  Perhaps there's just something I'm=3D3D20
> >> > missing? =3D3D3D3D3D20 =3D3D20
> >> > > >> >Thanks.
> >> > > >> >=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> > Chip
> >> > > >> >=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> > =3D3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> >=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> > > -----Original Message-----
> >> > > >> > > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D3D3D3D3D3D20=3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> > >[mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Kerri
> >> > > >> > > Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2004 12:17 AM
> >> > > >> > > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > > >> > > Subject: Re: Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0 =3D3D3D3D3D3D20 =3D20
> >> Chris, I=3D3D3D20
> >> > > vehemently=3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> > >despise software synthesizers hence=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> > my=3D3D3D3D3D3D20  dectalk=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> > >use and this is the only version that has been =3D3D3D
> >> > rather=3D3D3D3D3D3D20=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >>  sluggish.
> >> > > >> > > ----- Original Message -----
> >> > > >> > > From: "Chris Skarstad" <toonhead5@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > > >> > > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > > >> > > Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2004 4:15 PM
> >> > > >> > > Subject: Re: Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0 =3D3D3D3D3D3D20=3D20
> >> =3D3D3D3D3D3D20 =3D3D
> >> =3D3D3D20
> >> > > man I guess=3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> > >I'm very lucky then. This version actually runs =3D3D3D3D
> >> > > > a=3D3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> =3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> > >little faster on my system than 5.10 did. Then =3D
> > again=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> I'm=3D3D3D3D3D3D20  using
> >> > > >> =3D3D3D3D3D
> >> > > >> a=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> > >hardware synthesizer which is probably the=3D3D20
> >> > reason.=3D3D3D3D3D3D20  =3D3D3D3D
> >> > > > Never=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> > did like=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> > >software speech and never will based on =3D
> > what=3D3D3D3D3D3D20=3D3D20
> >> >  I've=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> seen.  By the
> >> > > >> =3D3D3D3D3D
> >> > > >>=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> > >way, the murge feature is there. go to=3D3D3D3D3D3D20  =
=3D
> > your=3D3D20
> >> > jaws=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> window with =3D3D3D3D3D
> >> > > >> alt=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> > >plus j, press alt u for utilities,=3D3D3D3D3D3D20 =20
> and it's =3D
> > =3D3D
> >> in=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> there. or simply
> >> > > >> =3D3D3D3D3D
> >> > > >>=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> > >bring up the context menu if=3D3D3D3D3D3D20  you're =3D
> > running=3D3D20
> >> > jaws in =3D3D3D
> >> > =3D3D3D3D
> >> > > > the=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> > system tray=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> > >and go to utilities=3D3D3D3D3D3D20  and the murge=20
> utility=3D3D20
> >> > is there.=3D3D3D20
> >> >=3D3D20
> >> > > >> > >=3D3D3D3D3D3D20  At 04:29 PM 12/21/2004, you wrote:
> >> > > >> > > >Hay, you mean, they haven't fixed any right? =
I'm=3D3D3D20
> >> > > sorry, I=3D3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> > > just couldn't=3D3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> > > >resist. In truth, this has been the worst version =3D3D
> >> I've=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> had the=3D3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> =3D3D3D3D3D
> >> > > >>=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> > > >misfortune to deal with in a long while. It=20
> runs=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> terribley slow,=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> > > >I'm=3D3D3D3D3D3D20 getting false attachments, no=20
> merge=3D3D20
> >> > feature=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> anywhere. I=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> > > >love=3D3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> > > spending=3D3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> > > >money on this "improved" product. Sorry, I'm=3D20
> >> being a grinch.
> >> > > >> > > >----- Original Message -----
> >> > > >> > > >From: "RJ" <rjf1@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > > >> > > >To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > > >> > > >Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2004 2:16 PM
> >> > > >> > > >Subject: Re: Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0
> >> > > >> > > >
> >> > > >> > > >
> >> > > >> > > >You are looking right, there just isn't any=20
> bugs.=3D3D3D20
> >> > > Smiling here.
> >> > > >> > > >----- Original Message -----
> >> > > >> > > >From: "Margaret Thomas" <iluvtoread@xxxxxxx>
> >> > > >> > > >To: "jfw" <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > > >> > > >Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2004 4:15 PM
> >> > > >> > > >Subject: Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0
> >> > > >> > > >
> >> > > >> > > >
> >> > > >> > > > > Good Afternoon,
> >> > > >> > > > >
> >> > > >> > > > >     I had a migraine when JAWS 6.0 was released =
=3D3D
> >> and=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> am trying=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> > > > > to=3D3D3D3D3D3D20 catch up with list mail=20
> before=3D3D3D20
> >> > > installing the new =3D3D3D3D
> >> > > > =3D3D3D3D3D
> >> > > >> release.
> >> > > >> > > > >
> >> > > >> > > > >     I've looked over the What's New section for=3D20
> >> > > >> > > > > 6.0=3D3D3D20=3D3D20 and=3D3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> > > could swear=3D3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> > > > > that there used to be a section on bug=20
> fixes, but I'm =3D
> > =3D3D
> >> =3D3D3D3D
> >> > > > not=3D3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> > > finding it=3D3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> > > > > for this version.  Am I having another=20
> senior moment, =3D
> > =3D3D
> >> =3D3D3D3D
> >> > > > or=3D3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> > > did FS not=3D3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> > > > > do it this time, or am I looking in the =
wrong=3D3D3D20
> >> > > place on=3D3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> > > the FS site? =3D3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> > > > > I've been looking at:
> >> > > >> > > > >
> >> > > >> > > > >
> >> > > >> > >=3D3D20
> >> > >http://www.freedomscientific.com/fs_products/software_jaws60f
> >> > > >> > > ea.asp#JAW
> >> > > >> > > >S_Features
> >> > > >> > > > >
> >> > > >> > > > >     Thanks,
> >> > > >> > > > > Margaret
> >> > > >> > > > > iluvtoread@xxxxxxx
> >> > > >> > > > >
> >> > > >> > > > > --
> >> > > >> > > > > To post a message to the list, send it =
to=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> > jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To=3D3D3D3D3D3D20=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> > > > > unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a=20
> message to
> >> > > >> > > >jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word =
unsubscribe=3D20
> >> > > >> > > >in=3D3D3D20=3D3D20 the=3D3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> > > subject line.
> >> > > >> > > > > Archives located at:=3D3D20
> >> > //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
> >> > > >> > > > >
> >> > > >> > > > > If you have any concerns about the list, post =
=3D3D3D
> >> > received=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> > from the=3D3D3D3D3D3D20=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> > > > > list, or
> >> > > >> > > >the way the list is being run, do not post them to=3D20
> >> > > >> > > >the=3D3D3D20=3D3D20 list.=3D3D3D3D3D20 =
Rather=3D3D3D3D3D3D20 =3D
> > contact the=3D20
> >> > > >> > > >list owner =3D3D
> >> at=3D3D3D20=3D3D20
> >> > > >> > > >jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > > >> > > > >
> >> > > >> > > >
> >> > > >> > > >--
> >> > > >> > > >To post a message to the list, send it to=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To=3D3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> =3D3D3D3D3D
> >> > > >>=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> > > >unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a=3D20
> >> message=3D3D3D20=3D3D20=3D20
> >> > > >> > > >to=3D3D3D3D3D3D20=3D3D3D3D3D20 =
jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx =3D
> > with=3D3D20
> >> > the word=3D3D3D20=3D3D20
> >> > > >> > > >unsubscribe in the=3D3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> > > subject line.
> >> > > >> > > >Archives located at:=20
> //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
> >> > > >> > > >
> >> > > >> > > >If you have any concerns about the list, post=3D20
> >> received =3D3D3D3D
> >> > > > from=3D3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> > > the list,=3D3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> > > >or the way the list is being run, do not post them =3D
> > to=3D3D3D20
> >> > > the=3D3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> > > list. Rather=3D3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> > > >contact the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > > >> > > >
> >> > > >> > > >
> >> > > >> > > >--
> >> > > >> > > >No virus found in this incoming message.
> >> > > >> > > >Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.
> >> > > >> > > >Version: 7.0.296 / Virus Database: 265.6.3 - =3D
> > Release=3D3D3D20
> >> > > Date:=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> > 12/21/2004
> >> > > >> > > >
> >> > > >> > > >
> >> > > >> > > >
> >> > > >> > > >
> >> > > >> > > >--
> >> > > >> > > >No virus found in this outgoing message.
> >> > > >> > > >Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.
> >> > > >> > > >Version: 7.0.296 / Virus Database: 265.6.3 - =3D
> > Release=3D3D3D20
> >> > > Date:=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> > 12/21/2004
> >> > > >> > > >
> >> > > >> > > >--
> >> > > >> > > >To post a message to the list, send it to=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To=3D3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> =3D3D3D3D3D
> >> > > >>=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> > > >unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a=3D20
> >> message=3D3D3D20=3D3D20=3D20
> >> > > >> > > >to=3D3D3D3D3D3D20=3D3D3D3D3D20 =
jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx =3D
> > with=3D3D20
> >> > the word=3D3D3D20=3D3D20
> >> > > >> > > >unsubscribe in the=3D3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> > > subject line.
> >> > > >> > > >Archives located at:=20
> //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
> >> > > >> > > >
> >> > > >> > > >If you have any concerns about the list, post=3D20
> >> received =3D3D3D3D
> >> > > > from=3D3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> > > the list,=3D3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> > > >or the way the list is being run, do not post them =3D
> > to=3D3D3D20
> >> > > the=3D3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> > > list. Rather=3D3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> > > >contact the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > > >> > >=3D3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> > > --
> >> > > >> > > To post a message to the list, send it to=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D3D3D3D3D3D20  To
> >> > > >> =3D3D3D3D3D
> >> > > >>=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >> > >unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a =
message=3D3D3D20
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> > ------------------------------
> >
> > From: "Hal Pearson" <hspearson@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Subject: Re: Oe hotkey won't work in jaws 6.
> > Date: Thu, 30 Dec 2004 16:51:00 -0500
> >
> > Hi Walter, I forgot about that one, and I am a real junky=20
> for hotkeys,
> > smile. You're right, it doesn't work with jfw 6; focus is=20
> lost when I try
> > it.
> >
> > Hal
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----=20
> > From: "Walter Siren" <wsiren@xxxxxxx>
> > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 2:13 PM
> > Subject: Re: Oe hotkey won't work in jaws 6.
> >
> >
> >> actually, if I tab from the to field, I have to tab four=20
> times to get=20
> >> into
> > the messsage body, while with earlier
> >> versions of jaws, I only had to tab three times.  Now, I=20
> don't have the
> > bcc field showing.  I am using windows 98 se.
> >> Walter Siren
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: <ptusing@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 11:05 AM
> >> Subject: Re: Oe hotkey won't work in jaws 6.
> >>
> >>
> >> > Hi,  Walter,
> >> > The  "alt grave"  hot key is onet hing in  Outlook=20
> Expressthat doesw=20
> >> > ork
> > for
> >> > me with JAWS 6.
> >> >
> >> > ----- Original Message -----
> >> > From: "Walter Siren" <wsiren@xxxxxxx>
> >> > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 11:19 AM
> >> > Subject: Oe hotkey won't work in jaws 6.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > > I recently found a hotkey for OE.  This key is=20
> alt+grave, this hotkey
> >> > allows one to skip from the to field in  a message
> >> > > to the message body.  With jaws 6 however, it doesn't=20
> work.  Has
> > anybody
> >> > else ran across this.
> >> > > Walter Siren
> >> > >
> >> > > ----- Original Message -----
> >> > > From: "Horspool, Matthew F." <drjaws@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > > Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 10:04 AM
> >> > > Subject: RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was=20
> - Re: Bug Fixes
> > in
> >> > JAWS 6.0
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > > I'm using a 2.53 GHz processor.  I think the other=20
> figure was from
> > an
> >> > > > old laptop.
> >> > > > -------------------------
> >> > > > Mr. Matthew F. Horspool
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Send me an Electronic Mail to
> >> > > > drjaws@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Add
> >> > > > horspool@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > > > to your MSN contact list
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Or Visit my web site at
> >> > > > http://www.horspool.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk
> >> > > > -------------------------
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > > -----Original Message-----
> >> > > > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=20
> [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> >> > > > Behalf Of david poehlman
> >> > > > Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 3:23 PM
> >> > > > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > > > Subject: Re: software vs. hardware synthesizers -=20
> was - Re: Bug
> > Fixes in
> >> > > > JAWS 6.0
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > > What do you get then when you look at system in=20
> controll panel?
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Johnnie Apple Seed
> >> > > >
> >> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> >> > > > From: "Horspool, Matthew F." <drjaws@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > > > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > > > Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 10:13 AM
> >> > > > Subject: RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers -=20
> was - Re: Bug
> > Fixes in
> >> > > >
> >> > > > JAWS 6.0
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Right.  I used the System Information tool and saved=20
> in plain text.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > -------------------------
> >> > > > Mr. Matthew F. Horspool
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Send me an Electronic Mail to
> >> > > > drjaws@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Add
> >> > > > horspool@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > > > to your MSN contact list
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Or Visit my web site at=20
> http://www.horspool.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk
> >> > > > -------------------------
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > > -----Original Message-----
> >> > > > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=20
> [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> >> > > > Behalf Of david poehlman
> >> > > > Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 3:11 PM
> >> > > > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > > > Subject: Re: software vs. hardware synthesizers -=20
> was - Re: Bug
> > Fixes in
> >> > > > JAWS 6.0
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > > matt,
> >> > > >
> >> > > > If you go to control panel, open system and read=20
> with the jaws
> > cursor or
> >> > > >
> >> > > > ins+b, you are told in plain english what system you=20
> have.  I'm not
> > sure
> >> > > > what you are running to get the result you have=20
> below, but thought
> > this
> >> > > > might help.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Johnnie Apple Seed
> >> > > >
> >> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> >> > > > From: "Horspool, Matthew F." <drjaws@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > > > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > > > Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 3:26 AM
> >> > > > Subject: RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers -=20
> was - Re: Bug
> > Fixes in
> >> > > >
> >> > > > JAWS 6.0
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > > OK, I thought I got it right, but when I=20
> interrogated the system
> > this
> >> > > > line came up:
> >> > > > Processor: x86 Family 15 Model 2 Stepping 7=20
> GenuineIntel ~2532 MhZ
> >> > > >
> >> > > > If I interpreted this line correctly I have a=20
> 2532MhZ processor!
> >> > > >
> >> > > > -------------------------
> >> > > > Mr. Matthew F. Horspool
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Send me an Electronic Mail to
> >> > > > drjaws@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Add
> >> > > > horspool@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > > > to your MSN contact list
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Or Visit my web site at=20
> http://www.horspool.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk
> >> > > > -------------------------
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > > -----Original Message-----
> >> > > > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=20
> [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> >> > > > Behalf Of Chip Orange
> >> > > > Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 5:13 PM
> >> > > > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > > > Subject: RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers -=20
> was - Re: Bug
> > Fixes in
> >> > > > JAWS 6.0
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > > If you got that right (and it's not a typo) and your=20
> processor=20
> >> > > > speed
> > was
> >> > > > only 256 mhz, then I could see why switching to a hardware
> > synthesizer
> >> > > > had such an improvement for you.  That was quite a=20
> load for your
> > system.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Chip
> >> > > >
> >> > > > =3D20
> >> > > >
> >> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> >> > > > > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D20
> > [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> >> > > > >On Behalf Of Horspool, Matthew F.
> >> > > > > Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 12:05 PM
> >> > > > > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > > > > Subject: RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers -=20
> was - Re:=3D20
> > Bug
> >> > > > >Fixes in JAWS 6.0 =3D20  Well I had 512MB RAM and about =
256MHZ
> >> > > > >Processors.  Running at=3D20  once I had a copy of=20
> WinAmp with the
> > Audio
> >> > > > >stocker and=3D20  SHOUTcast plugin, Microsoft=20
> Outlook, SHOUTcast=20
> >> > > > >DNAS
> >> > > > >(GUI),=3D20  BVentrilo and the Ventrilo Server, and a=20
> copy of JFW.
> >> > > > >This=3D20  slowed down the system quite a bit. =3D20
> >> > > > > -------------------------
> >> > > > > Mr. Matthew F. Horspool
> >> > > > > =3D20
> >> > > > > Send me an Electronic Mail to
> >> > > > > drjaws@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > > > > =3D20
> >> > > > > Add
> >> > > > > horspool@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > > > > to your MSN contact list
> >> > > > > =3D20
> >> > > > > Or Visit my web site at
> >> > > > > http://www.horspool.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk
> >> > > > > -------------------------
> >> > > > >=3D20
> >> > > > >=3D20
> >> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> >> > > > > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D20
> >> > > > > [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Chip Orange
> >> > > > > Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 4:38 PM
> >> > > > > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > > > > Subject: RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers -=20
> was - Re:=3D20
> >> > > > > Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0
> >> > > > >=3D20
> >> > > > >=3D20
> >> > > > > Ok,  this is the first opinion which strongly=20
> prefers one to=3D20
> >> > > > > another for other than subjective reasons, and I=20
> appreciate it.
> >> > > > >=3D20
> >> > > > > Would you say the system you were using when you=20
> made the=3D20
> >> > > > > switch was unusually slow, short of ram, or=20
> overloaded with=3D20
> >> > > > > processing tasks?
> >> > > > >=3D20
> >> > > > > Thanks.
> >> > > > >=3D20
> >> > > > > Chip
> >> > > > >=3D20
> >> > > > > =3D3D20
> >> > > > >=3D20
> >> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> >> > > > > > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D3D20 =3D20
> >> > > > > [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]=3D20
> >> > > > > >On Behalf Of Horspool, Matthew F.
> >> > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 11:30 AM
> >> > > > > > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > > > > > Subject: RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was -=20
> >> > > > > > Re:=3D3D20
> > =3D
> >> > > > Bug=3D20
> >> > > > > >Fixes in JAWS 6.0 =3D3D20  Used DECtalk ACCESS32=20
> for about a=3D20
> >> > > > > year and then=3D20
> >> > > > > >switched to a=3D3D20  DECtalk USB for to get better=20
> broadcast=3D20
> >> > > > > clarity.  I=3D20
> >> > > > > >certainly=3D3D20  have noticed a huge difference in=20
> >> > > > > >responsiveness:
> > =3D
> >> > > > The=3D20
> >> > > > > >DEC=3D3D20  USB is faster - a lot faster!
> >> > > > > >=3D3D20
> >> > > > > > -------------------------
> >> > > > > > Mr. Matthew F. Horspool
> >> > > > > > =3D3D20
> >> > > > > > Send me an Electronic Mail to
> >> > > > > > drjaws@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > > > > > =3D3D20
> >> > > > > > Add
> >> > > > > > horspool@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > > > > > to your MSN contact list
> >> > > > > > =3D3D20
> >> > > > > > Or Visit my web site at
> > http://www.horspool.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk
> >> > > > > > -------------------------
> >> > > > > >=3D3D20
> >> > > > > >=3D3D20
> >> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> >> > > > > > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D3D20
> >> > > > > >[mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of John Miller
> >> > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 4:20 PM
> >> > > > > > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > > > > > Subject: Re: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was -=20
> >> > > > > > Re:=3D3D20
> > =3D
> >> > > > Bug=3D20
> >> > > > > >Fixes in JAWS 6.0 =3D3D20 =3D3D20  I don't notice it if =
so.
> >> > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> >> > > > > > From: "Chip Orange" <Corange@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > > > > > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 10:47 AM
> >> > > > > > Subject: RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was -=20
> >> > > > > > Re:=3D3D20
> > =3D
> >> > > > Bug=3D20
> >> > > > > >Fixes in =3D3D20  JAWS 6.0 =3D3D20 =3D3D20
> >> > > > > > > Yes; and they do use some processor time.  The=20
> question is
> > that=3D20
> >> > > >
> >> > > > > > > on=3D3D20 todays systems, which usually have plenty of =
=3D
> >> > > > processor=3D3D20
> >> > > > > > speed and RAM,=3D3D20
> >> > > > > > > does that really make any difference?
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > Now, I know that it does from reports on AT&T Natural
> >> > > > > > > Voices=3D3D20=3D20 specifically, but I was wondering =
about
> > Eloquence.
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > Thanks.
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > Chip
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > =3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > >> -----Original Message-----
> >> > > > > > >> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D3D3D20 =3D3D20
> >> > > > > > [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]=3D3D20
> >> > > > > > >>On Behalf Of Flor Lynch
> >> > > > > > >> Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2004 9:00 PM
> >> > > > > > >> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > > > > > >> Subject: software vs. hardware synthesizers -=20
> was - Re:=3D3D20
> >> > > > > > Bug=3D3D3D20  Fixes
> >> > > > > >=3D3D20
> >> > > > > > >>in JAWS 6.0 =3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > > >> Software synths take up more RAM than=20
> hardware ones do.
> >> > > > > > >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> > > > > > >> From: "Chip Orange" <Corange@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > > > > > >> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > > > > > >> Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2004 2:22 PM
> >> > > > > > >> Subject: RE: Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0
> >> > > > > > >>=3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > > >>=3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > > >> Well, no argument with your first point, it=20
> is more=3D3D20
> >> > > > > > difficult to have =3D3D20
> >> > > > > > >>all of the sound coming out of one source;=20
> but, when you=3D3D20
> >> > > > > > need to use =3D3D20
> >> > > > > > >>headphones so as not to disturb someone else,=20
> it's also =3D
> >> > > > more=3D3D3D20=3D20
> >> > > > > > >>=3D3D20 convenient. =3D3D3D20  As for your second,=20
> that just=3D20
> >> > > > > seems to come=3D20
> >> > > > > > >>down to personal=3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > =3D3D20
> >> > > > > > >>preference  as it doesn't bother me a bit.
> >> > > > > > >>=3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > > >> There is one which you didn't mention, but=20
> which I've=3D3D20
> >> > > > > > always wondered =3D3D20
> >> > > > > > >>about, and that's how much of a load does Eloquence=20
> >> > > > > > >>place=3D3D20
> >> > > > > > on=3D3D3D20  your=3D3D20
> >> > > > > > >>system  by having the software synth as compared to
> > sending=3D3D20
> >> > > > > > the text=3D3D20
> >> > > > > > >>to be  spoken out of the serial port?  Anyone have any
> > facts=3D20
> >> > > > > > >>along=3D3D20 this
> >> > > > > > line?
> >> > > > > > >>=3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > > >> Thanks.
> >> > > > > > >>=3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > > >> Chip
> >> > > > > > >>=3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > > >> =3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > > >>=3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > > >> > -----Original Message-----
> >> > > > > > >> > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D3D3D3D20=3D3D20
> >> > > > > > >> >[mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Kerri
> >> > > > > > >> > Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2004 2:04 AM
> >> > > > > > >> > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > > > > > >> > Subject: Re: Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0=20
> =3D3D3D3D20  Hello  Chip.
> > I=3D20
> >> > > >
> >> > > > > > >> >despise software synthesizers mainly=3D3D20
> >> > > > > > because=3D3D3D3D20 if=3D3D20
> >> > > > > > >> >you are required to listen to other media, I=20
> find it=3D20
> >> > > > > to=3D3D3D3D20=3D3D20=3D20
> >> > > > > > >> >difficult to with a software synthesizer=20
> coming through=3D20
> >> > > > > the=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > >=3D20
> >> > > > > > >> >=3D3D
> >> > > > >=3D20
> >> > > > > > >> >same speakers. I also dislike elloquence's=20
> voice, *all of
> > them*
> >> > > > > > >> > ----- Original Message -----
> >> > > > > > >> > From: "Chip Orange" <Corange@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > > > > > >> > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > > > > > >> > Sent: Monday, December 27, 2004 12:02 PM
> >> > > > > > >> > Subject: RE: Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0=20
> =3D3D3D3D20 =3D3D3D3D20
> > I'm=3D20
> >> > > > > > >> >interested in hearing why, as I use a DT=20
> express at=3D3D20
> >> > > > > > work,=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > >=3D3D20
> >> > > > > > >> >and eloquence at home, and really haven't=20
> felt there's=3D20
> >> > > > > much=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > >=3D20
> >> > > > > > >> >=3D3D
> >> > > > >=3D20
> >> > > > > > >> >difference.  Perhaps there's just something I'm=3D20
> >> > > > > missing? =3D3D3D3D20 =3D20
> >> > > > > > >> >Thanks.
> >> > > > > > >> >=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > > >> > Chip
> >> > > > > > >> >=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > > >> > =3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > > >> >=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > > >> > > -----Original Message-----
> >> > > > > > >> > > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D3D3D3D3D20=3D3D20
> >> > > > > > >> > >[mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On=20
> Behalf Of Kerri
> >> > > > > > >> > > Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2004 12:17 AM
> >> > > > > > >> > > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > > > > > >> > > Subject: Re: Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0=20
> =3D3D3D3D3D20  Chris,
> > I=3D3D20
> >> > > > > > vehemently=3D3D20
> >> > > > > > >> > >despise software synthesizers hence=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > > >> > my=3D3D3D3D3D20  dectalk=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > > >> > >use and this is the only version that has been =
=3D3D
> >> > > > > rather=3D3D3D3D3D20=3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > > >>  sluggish.
> >> > > > > > >> > > ----- Original Message -----
> >> > > > > > >> > > From: "Chris Skarstad" <toonhead5@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > > > > > >> > > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > > > > > >> > > Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2004 4:15 PM
> >> > > > > > >> > > Subject: Re: Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0 =3D3D3D3D3D20
> > =3D3D3D3D3D20 =3D
> >> > > > =3D3D20
> >> > > > > > man I guess=3D3D20
> >> > > > > > >> > >I'm very lucky then. This version actually=20
> runs =3D3D3D
> >> > > > > > > a=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > > >> =3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > > >> > >little faster on my system than 5.10 did. Then
> > again=3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > > >> I'm=3D3D3D3D3D20  using
> >> > > > > > >> =3D3D3D3D
> >> > > > > > >> a=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > > >> > >hardware synthesizer which is probably the=3D20
> >> > > > > reason.=3D3D3D3D3D20  =3D3D3D
> >> > > > > > > Never=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > > >> > did like=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > > >> > >software speech and never will based on=20
> >> > > > > > >> > >what=3D3D3D3D3D20=3D20
> >> > > > >  I've=3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > > >> seen.  By the
> >> > > > > > >> =3D3D3D3D
> >> > > > > > >>=3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > > >> > >way, the murge feature is there. go to=3D3D3D3D3D20 =

> >> > > > > > >> > >your=3D20
> >> > > > > jaws=3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > > >> window with =3D3D3D3D
> >> > > > > > >> alt=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > > >> > >plus j, press alt u for=20
> utilities,=3D3D3D3D3D20  and it's =3D
> >> > > > in=3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > > >> there. or simply
> >> > > > > > >> =3D3D3D3D
> >> > > > > > >>=3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > > >> > >bring up the context menu if=3D3D3D3D3D20  you're=20
> >> > > > > > >> > >running=3D20
> >> > > > > jaws in =3D3D
> >> > > > > =3D3D3D
> >> > > > > > > the=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > > >> > system tray=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > > >> > >and go to utilities=3D3D3D3D3D20  and the=20
> murge utility=3D20
> >> > > > > is there.=3D3D20
> >> > > > >=3D20
> >> > > > > > >> > >=3D3D3D3D3D20  At 04:29 PM 12/21/2004, you wrote:
> >> > > > > > >> > > >Hay, you mean, they haven't fixed any=20
> right? I'm=3D3D20
> >> > > > > > sorry, I=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > > >> > > just couldn't=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > > >> > > >resist. In truth, this has been the=20
> worst version =3D
> >> > > > I've=3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > > >> had the=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > > >> =3D3D3D3D
> >> > > > > > >>=3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > > >> > > >misfortune to deal with in a long while.=20
> It runs=3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > > >> terribley slow,=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > > >> > > >I'm=3D3D3D3D3D20 getting false=20
> attachments, no merge=3D20
> >> > > > > feature=3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > > >> anywhere. I=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > > >> > > >love=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > > >> > > spending=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > > >> > > >money on this "improved" product. Sorry,=20
> I'm being a
> > grinch.
> >> > > > > > >> > > >----- Original Message -----
> >> > > > > > >> > > >From: "RJ" <rjf1@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > > > > > >> > > >To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > > > > > >> > > >Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2004 2:16 PM
> >> > > > > > >> > > >Subject: Re: Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0
> >> > > > > > >> > > >
> >> > > > > > >> > > >
> >> > > > > > >> > > >You are looking right, there just isn't=20
> any bugs.=3D3D20
> >> > > > > > Smiling here.
> >> > > > > > >> > > >----- Original Message -----
> >> > > > > > >> > > >From: "Margaret Thomas" <iluvtoread@xxxxxxx>
> >> > > > > > >> > > >To: "jfw" <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > > > > > >> > > >Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2004 4:15 PM
> >> > > > > > >> > > >Subject: Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0
> >> > > > > > >> > > >
> >> > > > > > >> > > >
> >> > > > > > >> > > > > Good Afternoon,
> >> > > > > > >> > > > >
> >> > > > > > >> > > > >     I had a migraine when JAWS 6.0=20
> was released =3D
> >> > > > and=3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > > >> am trying=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > > >> > > > > to=3D3D3D3D3D20 catch up with list mail=20
> before=3D3D20
> >> > > > > > installing the new =3D3D3D
> >> > > > > > > =3D3D3D3D
> >> > > > > > >> release.
> >> > > > > > >> > > > >
> >> > > > > > >> > > > >     I've looked over the What's New=20
> section for
> >> > > > > > >> > > > > 6.0=3D3D20=3D20 and=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > > >> > > could swear=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > > >> > > > > that there used to be a section on=20
> bug fixes, but=20
> >> > > > > > >> > > > > I'm
> > =3D
> >> > > > =3D3D3D
> >> > > > > > > not=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > > >> > > finding it=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > > >> > > > > for this version.  Am I having another senior=20
> >> > > > > > >> > > > > moment,
> > =3D
> >> > > > =3D3D3D
> >> > > > > > > or=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > > >> > > did FS not=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > > >> > > > > do it this time, or am I looking in=20
> the wrong=3D3D20
> >> > > > > > place on=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > > >> > > the FS site? =3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > > >> > > > > I've been looking at:
> >> > > > > > >> > > > >
> >> > > > > > >> > > > >
> >> > > > > > >> > >=3D20
> >> > > > >=20
> >http://www.freedomscientific.com/fs_products/software_jaws60f
> >> > > > > > >> > > ea.asp#JAW
> >> > > > > > >> > > >S_Features
> >> > > > > > >> > > > >
> >> > > > > > >> > > > >     Thanks,
> >> > > > > > >> > > > > Margaret
> >> > > > > > >> > > > > iluvtoread@xxxxxxx
> >> > > > > > >> > > > >
> >> > > > > > >> > > > > --
> >> > > > > > >> > > > > To post a message to the list, send=20
> it to=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > > >> > jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To=3D3D3D3D3D20=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > > >> > > > > unsubscribe from this mailing list,=20
> send a message=20
> >> > > > > > >> > > > > to
> >> > > > > > >> > > >jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word=20
> unsubscribe
> >> > > > > > >> > > >in=3D3D20=3D20 the=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > > >> > > subject line.
> >> > > > > > >> > > > > Archives located at:=3D20
> >> > > > > //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
> >> > > > > > >> > > > >
> >> > > > > > >> > > > > If you have any concerns about the=20
> list, post =3D3D
> >> > > > > received=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > > >> > from the=3D3D3D3D3D20=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > > >> > > > > list, or
> >> > > > > > >> > > >the way the list is being run, do not=20
> post them to
> >> > > > > > >> > > >the=3D3D20=3D20 list.=3D3D3D3D20=20
> Rather=3D3D3D3D3D20 contact=20
> >> > > > > > >> > > >the
> >> > > > > > >> > > >list owner =3D
> >> > > > at=3D3D20=3D20
> >> > > > > > >> > > >jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > > > > > >> > > > >
> >> > > > > > >> > > >
> >> > > > > > >> > > >--
> >> > > > > > >> > > >To post a message to the list, send it =
to=3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > > >> jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > > >> =3D3D3D3D
> >> > > > > > >>=3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > > >> > > >unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a
> > message=3D3D20=3D20
> >> > > > > > >> > > >to=3D3D3D3D3D20=3D3D3D3D20 =
jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=20
> >> > > > > > >> > > >with=3D20
> >> > > > > the word=3D3D20=3D20
> >> > > > > > >> > > >unsubscribe in the=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > > >> > > subject line.
> >> > > > > > >> > > >Archives located at:
> > //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
> >> > > > > > >> > > >
> >> > > > > > >> > > >If you have any concerns about the list,=20
> post received
> > =3D3D3D
> >> > > > > > > from=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > > >> > > the list,=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > > >> > > >or the way the list is being run, do not=20
> post them
> > to=3D3D20
> >> > > > > > the=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > > >> > > list. Rather=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > > >> > > >contact the list owner at=20
> jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > > > > > >> > > >
> >> > > > > > >> > > >
> >> > > > > > >> > > >--
> >> > > > > > >> > > >No virus found in this incoming message.
> >> > > > > > >> > > >Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.
> >> > > > > > >> > > >Version: 7.0.296 / Virus Database: 265.6.3 -
> > Release=3D3D20
> >> > > > > > Date:=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > > >> > 12/21/2004
> >> > > > > > >> > > >
> >> > > > > > >> > > >
> >> > > > > > >> > > >
> >> > > > > > >> > > >
> >> > > > > > >> > > >--
> >> > > > > > >> > > >No virus found in this outgoing message.
> >> > > > > > >> > > >Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.
> >> > > > > > >> > > >Version: 7.0.296 / Virus Database: 265.6.3 -
> > Release=3D3D20
> >> > > > > > Date:=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > > >> > 12/21/2004
> >> > > > > > >> > > >
> >> > > > > > >> > > >--
> >> > > > > > >> > > >To post a message to the list, send it =
to=3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > > >> jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > > >> =3D3D3D3D
> >> > > > > > >>=3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > > >> > > >unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a
> > message=3D3D20=3D20
> >> > > > > > >> > > >to=3D3D3D3D3D20=3D3D3D3D20 =
jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=20
> >> > > > > > >> > > >with=3D20
> >> > > > > the word=3D3D20=3D20
> >> > > > > > >> > > >unsubscribe in the=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > > >> > > subject line.
> >> > > > > > >> > > >Archives located at:
> > //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
> >> > > > > > >> > > >
> >> > > > > > >> > > >If you have any concerns about the list,=20
> post received
> > =3D3D3D
> >> > > > > > > from=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > > >> > > the list,=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > > >> > > >or the way the list is being run, do not=20
> post them
> > to=3D3D20
> >> > > > > > the=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > > >> > > list. Rather=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > > >> > > >contact the list owner at=20
> jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > > > > > >> > >=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > > >> > > --
> >> > > > > > >> > > To post a message to the list, send it to=3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > > >> jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D3D3D3D3D20  To
> >> > > > > > >> =3D3D3D3D
> >> > > > > > >>=3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > > >> > >unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a=20
> message=3D3D20
> >> > > > > > to=3D3D3D3D3D20 =3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > >=3D3D20
> >> > > > > > >> > >jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word=20
> unsubscribe =3D
> >> > > > in=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > > >> > the=3D3D3D3D3D20  subject=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > > >> > >line.
> >> > > > > > >> > > Archives located at:
> > //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
> >> > > > > > >> > >=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > > >> > > If you have any concerns about the list, post
> > received=3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > > >> from=3D3D3D3D3D20  =3D3D3D3D
> >> > > > > > >> the=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > > >> > >list, or the way the list is being run, do not=20
> >> > > > > > >> > >post=3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > > >> them=3D3D3D3D3D20  to the
> >> > > > > > >> =3D3D3D3D
> >> > > > > > >>=3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > > >> > >list. Rather contact the list owner at=3D3D3D3D3D20 =

> >> > > > > > >> > >=3D3D3D3D
> >> > > > > > >> jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > > > > > >> > >=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > > >> > >=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > > >> > > --
> >> > > > > > >> > > No virus found in this incoming message.
> >> > > > > > >> > > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.
> >> > > > > > >> > > Version: 7.0.296 / Virus Database:=20
> 265.6.3 - Release =3D3D
> >> > > > > Date:=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > > >> > 12/21/2004=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > > >> > >=3D3D3D3D3D20 =3D3D3D3D3D20 =3D3D3D3D3D20
> > 3D3D3D3D20  --=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >
> >> > > > > > >> > >=3D
> >> > > >  No=3D20
> >> > > > > > >> > >virus=3D3D20
> >> > > > > > found in this
> >> > > > > >=3D3D20
> >> > > > > > >> > >=3D3D3D
> >> > > > > > > outgoing =3D3D3D3D
> >> > > > > > >> message.
> >> > > > > > >> > > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.
> >> > > > > > >> > > Version: 7.0.296 / Virus Database:=20
> 265.6.3 - Release =3D3D
> >> > > > > Date:=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > > >> > 12/21/2004=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > > >> > >=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > > >> > > --
> >> > > > > > >> > > To post a message to the list, send it to=3D20
> >> > > > > jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx  =3D3D
> >> > > > > =3D3D3D
> >> > > > > > > To=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > > >> > >unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a=20
> message=3D3D20
> >> > > > > > to=3D3D3D3D3D20 =3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > >=3D3D20
> >> > > > > > >> > >jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word=20
> unsubscribe =3D
> >> > > > in=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > > >> > the=3D3D3D3D3D20  subject=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > > >> > >line.
> >> > > > > > >> > > Archives located at:
> > //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
> >> > > > > > >> > >=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > > >> > > If you have any concerns about the list, post
> > received=3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > > >> from=3D3D3D3D3D20  =3D3D3D3D
> >> > > > > > >> the=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > > >> > >list, or the way the list is being run, do not=20
> >> > > > > > >> > >post=3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > > >> them=3D3D3D3D3D20  to the
> >> > > > > > >> =3D3D3D3D
> >> > > > > > >>=3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > > >> > >list. Rather contact the list owner at=3D3D3D3D3D20 =

> >> > > > > > >> > >=3D3D3D3D
> >> > > > > > >> jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > > > > > >> > >=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > > >> > --
> >> > > > > > >> > To post a message to the list, send it to=3D3D20
> >> > > > > > jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D3D3D3D20 To=3D3D20
> >> > > > > > >> >unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message =
=3D
> >> > > > to=3D3D3D3D20=3D3D20=3D20
> >> > > > > > >> >jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word=20
> unsubscribe in=3D20
> >> > > > > > >> >the=3D3D3D3D20=3D3D20 subject line.  Archives located =
at:
> >> > > > > > >> >//www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
> >> > > > > > >> >=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > > >> > If you have any concerns about the list,=20
> post received =3D3D
> >> > > > > from=3D3D3D3D20=3D3D20
> >> > > > > > >> >the list, or the way the list is being run, do not=20
> >> > > > > > >> >post=3D3D20
> >> > > > > > them=3D3D3D3D20 to=3D3D20
> >> > > > > > >> >the list. Rather contact the list owner=20
> at=3D3D3D3D20=3D3D20=3D20
> >> > > > > > >> >jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx =3D3D3D3D20 =3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > > >> > --
> >> > > > > > >> > No virus found in this incoming message.
> >> > > > > > >> > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.
> >> > > > > > >> > Version: 7.0.298 / Virus Database: 265.6.5=20
> - Release =3D
> >> > > > Date:=3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > > >> 12/26/2004
> >> > > > > > >> >=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > > >> >=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > > >> >=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > > >> >=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > > >> >=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > > >> > --=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > > >> > No virus found in this outgoing message.
> >> > > > > > >> > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.
> >> > > > > > >> > Version: 7.0.298 / Virus Database: 265.6.5=20
> - Release =3D
> >> > > > Date:=3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > > >> 12/26/2004
> >> > > > > > >> >=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > > >> > --
> >> > > > > > >> > To post a message to the list, send it to=3D20
> >> > > > > jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To=3D3D20=3D20
> >> > > > > > >> >unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message =
=3D
> >> > > > to=3D3D3D3D20=3D3D20=3D20
> >> > > > > > >> >jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word=20
> unsubscribe in=3D20
> >> > > > > > >> >the=3D3D3D3D20=3D3D20 subject line.  Archives located =
at:
> >> > > > > > >> >//www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
> >> > > > > > >> >=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > > >> > If you have any concerns about the list,=20
> post received =3D3D
> >> > > > > from=3D3D3D3D20=3D3D20
> >> > > > > > >> >the list, or the way the list is being run, do not=20
> >> > > > > > >> >post=3D3D20
> >> > > > > > them=3D3D3D3D20 to=3D3D20
> >> > > > > > >> >the list. Rather contact the list owner=20
> at=3D3D3D3D20=3D3D20=3D20
> >> > > > > > >> >jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx =3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > > >> --
> >> > > > > > >> To post a message to the list, send it to=3D20
> >> > > > > jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx  To=3D3D20=3D20
> >> > > > > > >>unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a=20
> message to=3D3D20=3D20
> >> > > > > > >>jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word=20
> unsubscribe in=3D3D20
> >> > > > > > the=3D3D3D20  subject
> >> > > > > >=3D3D20
> >> > > > > > >>line.  Archives located at:
> > //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
> >> > > > > > >>=3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > > >> If you have any concerns about the list, post=20
> received=3D3D20
> >> > > > > > from=3D3D3D20  the=3D3D20
> >> > > > > > >>list, or  the way the list is being run, do not post=20
> >> > > > > > >>them=3D3D20
> >> > > > > > to the list.=3D3D20
> >> > > > > > >>Rather  contact the list owner at=20
> jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx =3D
> >> > > > =3D3D3D20=3D20
> >> > > > > > >>=3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > > >> --
> >> > > > > > >> To post a message to the list, send it to=3D20
> >> > > > > jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx  To=3D3D20=3D20
> >> > > > > > >>unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a=20
> message to=3D3D3D20
> > =3D3D20
> >> > > >
> >> > > > > > >>=3D
> >> > > >
> >> > > > > > >>jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word=20
> unsubscribe in=3D3D20
> >> > > > > > the=3D3D3D20  subject=3D3D20
> >> > > > > > >>line.
> >> > > > > > >> Archives located at:=20
> //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
> >> > > > > > >>=3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > > >> If you have any concerns about the list, post=20
> received=3D3D20
> >> > > > > > from=3D3D3D20  the=3D3D20
> >> > > > > > >>list, or the way the list is being run, do not =
post=3D20
> >> > > > > them=3D3D3D20  to =3D3D
> >> > > > > the=3D3D20
> >> > > > > > >>list. Rather contact the list owner at=3D3D3D20  =3D3D
> >> > > > > jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > > > > > >>=3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > > > --
> >> > > > > > > To post a message to the list, send it to=20
> jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx =3D
> >> > > > To=3D3D20=3D20
> >> > > > > > > unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a=20
> message to=3D3D20=3D20
> >> > > > > > > jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word=20
> unsubscribe in the=3D20
> >> > > > > > > subject=3D3D20 line. Archives located at:
> >> > > > > > > //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > If you have any concerns about the list, post received
> > from=3D3D20
> >> > > > > > the list,=3D3D20
> >> > > > > > > or the way the list is being run, do not post them to=20
> >> > > > > > > the=3D3D20
> >> > > > > > list. Rather=3D3D20
> >> > > > > > > contact the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > > > > > >=3D3D20
> >> > > > > >=3D3D20
> >> > > > > >=3D3D20
> >> > > > > > --
> >> > > > > > To post a message to the list, send it to=20
> >> > > > > > jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D3D20
> > To
> >> > > >
> >> > > > > >=3D
> >> > > >
> >> > > > > >unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a=20
> message to=3D3D20=3D20
> >> > > > > >jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe =
in=3D20
> >> > > > > the=3D3D20  subject=3D20
> >> > > > > >line.  Archives located at:=20
> >> > > > > >//www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
> >> > > > > >=3D3D20
> >> > > > > > If you have any concerns about the list, post received=20
> >> > > > > > from=3D3D20
> > =3D
> >> > > > the=3D20
> >> > > > > >list, or the way the list is being run, do not=20
> post them=3D3D20=20
> >> > > > > >to
> > the
> >> > > >
> >> > > > > >=3D
> >> > > >
> >> > > > > >list. Rather contact the list owner at=3D3D20  =3D
> >> > > > jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > > > > >=3D3D20
> >> > > > > >=3D3D20
> >> > > > > > --
> >> > > > > > To post a message to the list, send it to=20
> >> > > > > > jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D3D20
> > To
> >> > > >
> >> > > > > >=3D
> >> > > >
> >> > > > > >unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a=20
> message to=3D3D20 =3D20
> >> > > > > >jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe =
in=3D20
> >> > > > > the=3D3D20  subject=3D20
> >> > > > > >line.
> >> > > > > > Archives located at:=20
> //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
> >> > > > > >=3D3D20
> >> > > > > > If you have any concerns about the list, post received=20
> >> > > > > > from=3D3D20
> > =3D
> >> > > > the=3D20
> >> > > > > >list, or the way the list is being run, do not=20
> post them=3D3D20=20
> >> > > > > >to
> > the
> >> > > >
> >> > > > > >=3D
> >> > > >
> >> > > > > >list. Rather contact the list owner at=3D3D20  =3D
> >> > > > jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > > > > >=3D3D20
> >> > > > > --
> >> > > > > To post a message to the list, send it to=20
> jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D20=20
> >> > > > > To
> >> > > > >unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to=3D20
> >> > > > >jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe=20
> in the=3D20
> > subject
> >> > > > >line.  Archives located at:=20
> //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
> >> > > > >=3D20
> >> > > > > If you have any concerns about the list, post=20
> received from=3D20
> > the
> >> > > > >list, or the way the list is being run, do not post=20
> them=3D20  to=20
> >> > > > >the
> >> > > > >list. Rather contact the list owner at=3D20
> > jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > > > >=3D20
> >> > > > > --
> >> > > > > To post a message to the list, send it to=20
> jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D20=20
> >> > > > > To
> >> > > > >unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to=3D20
> >> > > > >jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe=20
> in the=3D20
> > subject
> >> > > > >line.  Archives located at:=20
> //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
> >> > > > >=3D20
> >> > > > > If you have any concerns about the list, post=20
> received from=3D20
> >> > > > > the list, or the way the list is being run, do not=20
> post them=3D20
> >> > > > > to the list. Rather contact the list owner at=3D20
> >> > > > > jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > > > >=3D20
> >> > > > --
> >> > > > To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > > > To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to
> >> > > > jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe=20
> in the subject
> > line.
> >> > > > Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
> >> > > >
> >> > > > If you have any concerns about the list, post=20
> received from the
> > list, or
> >> > > > the way the list is being run, do not post them to=20
> the list. Rather
> >> > > > contact the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > > >
> >> > > > --
> >> > > > To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > > > To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to
> >> > > > jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe=20
> in the subject
> > line.
> >> > > > Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
> >> > > >
> >> > > > If you have any concerns about the list, post=20
> received from the
> > list, or
> >> > > > the way the list is being run, do not post them to=20
> the list. Rather
> >> > > > contact the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > > >
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> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > From: "Hal Pearson" <hspearson@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Subject: move to message field script
> > Date: Thu, 30 Dec 2004 17:03:48 -0500
> >
> > Hi walter and list,
> >
> > I think I can kind of explain what is going on with alt=20
> grauve key. When
> > sitting in the to field, I then press hotkey to move to the=20
> edit field.=20
> > What
> > happens is that jfw loses focus, and I have to then alt tab=20
> to move to the
> > edit field. this hotkey works with jfw V 5.1, and 4.51.
> >
> > Hal
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > From: "ron McEwan" <blindboy56@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Subject: Re: Oe hotkey won't work in jaws 6.
> > Date: Thu, 30 Dec 2004 15:13:28 -0700
> >
> > This hotkey works fine for me in both 5.1 and 6.0.
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----=20
> > From: "Hal Pearson" <hspearson@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 2:51 PM
> > Subject: Re: Oe hotkey won't work in jaws 6.
> >
> >
> >> Hi Walter, I forgot about that one, and I am a real junky=20
> for hotkeys,
> >> smile. You're right, it doesn't work with jfw 6; focus is=20
> lost when I try
> >> it.
> >>
> >> Hal
> >>
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----=20
> >> From: "Walter Siren" <wsiren@xxxxxxx>
> >> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 2:13 PM
> >> Subject: Re: Oe hotkey won't work in jaws 6.
> >>
> >>
> >> > actually, if I tab from the to field, I have to tab four=20
> times to get
> > into
> >> the messsage body, while with earlier
> >> > versions of jaws, I only had to tab three times.  Now, I=20
> don't have the
> >> bcc field showing.  I am using windows 98 se.
> >> > Walter Siren
> >> >
> >> > ----- Original Message -----
> >> > From: <ptusing@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 11:05 AM
> >> > Subject: Re: Oe hotkey won't work in jaws 6.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > > Hi,  Walter,
> >> > > The  "alt grave"  hot key is onet hing in  Outlook=20
> Expressthat doesw
> > ork
> >> for
> >> > > me with JAWS 6.
> >> > >
> >> > > ----- Original Message -----
> >> > > From: "Walter Siren" <wsiren@xxxxxxx>
> >> > > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > > Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 11:19 AM
> >> > > Subject: Oe hotkey won't work in jaws 6.
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > > I recently found a hotkey for OE.  This key is=20
> alt+grave, this
> > hotkey
> >> > > allows one to skip from the to field in  a message
> >> > > > to the message body.  With jaws 6 however, it=20
> doesn't work.  Has
> >> anybody
> >> > > else ran across this.
> >> > > > Walter Siren
> >> > > >
> >> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> >> > > > From: "Horspool, Matthew F." <drjaws@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > > > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > > > Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 10:04 AM
> >> > > > Subject: RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers -=20
> was - Re: Bug
> > Fixes
> >> in
> >> > > JAWS 6.0
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > > > I'm using a 2.53 GHz processor.  I think the other=20
> figure was=20
> >> > > > > from
> >> an
> >> > > > > old laptop.
> >> > > > > -------------------------
> >> > > > > Mr. Matthew F. Horspool
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > Send me an Electronic Mail to
> >> > > > > drjaws@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > Add
> >> > > > > horspool@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > > > > to your MSN contact list
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > Or Visit my web site at
> >> > > > > http://www.horspool.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk
> >> > > > > -------------------------
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> >> > > > > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=20
> [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > On
> >> > > > > Behalf Of david poehlman
> >> > > > > Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 3:23 PM
> >> > > > > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > > > > Subject: Re: software vs. hardware synthesizers -=20
> was - Re: Bug
> >> Fixes in
> >> > > > > JAWS 6.0
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > What do you get then when you look at system in=20
> controll panel?
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > Johnnie Apple Seed
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> >> > > > > From: "Horspool, Matthew F." <drjaws@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > > > > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > > > > Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 10:13 AM
> >> > > > > Subject: RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers -=20
> was - Re: Bug
> >> Fixes in
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > JAWS 6.0
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > Right.  I used the System Information tool and=20
> saved in plain
> > text.
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > -------------------------
> >> > > > > Mr. Matthew F. Horspool
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > Send me an Electronic Mail to
> >> > > > > drjaws@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > Add
> >> > > > > horspool@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > > > > to your MSN contact list
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > Or Visit my web site at=20
> http://www.horspool.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk
> >> > > > > -------------------------
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> >> > > > > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=20
> [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > On
> >> > > > > Behalf Of david poehlman
> >> > > > > Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 3:11 PM
> >> > > > > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > > > > Subject: Re: software vs. hardware synthesizers -=20
> was - Re: Bug
> >> Fixes in
> >> > > > > JAWS 6.0
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > matt,
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > If you go to control panel, open system and read=20
> with the jaws
> >> cursor or
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > ins+b, you are told in plain english what system=20
> you have.  I'm
> > not
> >> sure
> >> > > > > what you are running to get the result you have below, but=20
> >> > > > > thought
> >> this
> >> > > > > might help.
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > Johnnie Apple Seed
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> >> > > > > From: "Horspool, Matthew F." <drjaws@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > > > > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > > > > Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 3:26 AM
> >> > > > > Subject: RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers -=20
> was - Re: Bug
> >> Fixes in
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > JAWS 6.0
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > OK, I thought I got it right, but when I=20
> interrogated the system
> >> this
> >> > > > > line came up:
> >> > > > > Processor: x86 Family 15 Model 2 Stepping 7=20
> GenuineIntel ~2532=20
> >> > > > > MhZ
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > If I interpreted this line correctly I have a=20
> 2532MhZ processor!
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > -------------------------
> >> > > > > Mr. Matthew F. Horspool
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > Send me an Electronic Mail to
> >> > > > > drjaws@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > Add
> >> > > > > horspool@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > > > > to your MSN contact list
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > Or Visit my web site at=20
> http://www.horspool.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk
> >> > > > > -------------------------
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> >> > > > > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=20
> [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > On
> >> > > > > Behalf Of Chip Orange
> >> > > > > Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 5:13 PM
> >> > > > > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > > > > Subject: RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers -=20
> was - Re: Bug
> >> Fixes in
> >> > > > > JAWS 6.0
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > If you got that right (and it's not a typo) and=20
> your processor
> > speed
> >> was
> >> > > > > only 256 mhz, then I could see why switching to a hardware
> >> synthesizer
> >> > > > > had such an improvement for you.  That was quite a=20
> load for your
> >> system.
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > Chip
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > =3D20
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> >> > > > > > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D20
> >> [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> >> > > > > >On Behalf Of Horspool, Matthew F.
> >> > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 12:05 PM
> >> > > > > > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > > > > > Subject: RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers=20
> - was - Re:=3D20
> >> Bug
> >> > > > > >Fixes in JAWS 6.0 =3D20  Well I had 512MB RAM and=20
> about 256MHZ
> >> > > > > >Processors.  Running at=3D20  once I had a copy of=20
> WinAmp with the
> >> Audio
> >> > > > > >stocker and=3D20  SHOUTcast plugin, Microsoft=20
> Outlook, SHOUTcast
> > DNAS
> >> > > > > >(GUI),=3D20  BVentrilo and the Ventrilo Server, and=20
> a copy of JFW.
> >> > > > > >This=3D20  slowed down the system quite a bit. =3D20
> >> > > > > > -------------------------
> >> > > > > > Mr. Matthew F. Horspool
> >> > > > > > =3D20
> >> > > > > > Send me an Electronic Mail to
> >> > > > > > drjaws@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > > > > > =3D20
> >> > > > > > Add
> >> > > > > > horspool@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > > > > > to your MSN contact list
> >> > > > > > =3D20
> >> > > > > > Or Visit my web site at
> >> > > > > > http://www.horspool.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk
> >> > > > > > -------------------------
> >> > > > > >=3D20
> >> > > > > >=3D20
> >> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> >> > > > > > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D20
> >> > > > > > [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of=20
> Chip Orange
> >> > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 4:38 PM
> >> > > > > > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > > > > > Subject: RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers=20
> - was - Re:=3D20
> >> > > > > > Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0
> >> > > > > >=3D20
> >> > > > > >=3D20
> >> > > > > > Ok,  this is the first opinion which strongly=20
> prefers one to=3D20
> >> > > > > > another for other than subjective reasons, and I=20
> appreciate it.
> >> > > > > >=3D20
> >> > > > > > Would you say the system you were using when you=20
> made the=3D20
> >> > > > > > switch was unusually slow, short of ram, or=20
> overloaded with=3D20
> >> > > > > > processing tasks?
> >> > > > > >=3D20
> >> > > > > > Thanks.
> >> > > > > >=3D20
> >> > > > > > Chip
> >> > > > > >=3D20
> >> > > > > > =3D3D20
> >> > > > > >=3D20
> >> > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> >> > > > > > > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D3D20 =3D20
> >> > > > > > [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]=3D20
> >> > > > > > >On Behalf Of Horspool, Matthew F.
> >> > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 11:30 AM
> >> > > > > > > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > > > > > > Subject: RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was -
> > Re:=3D3D20
> >> =3D
> >> > > > > Bug=3D20
> >> > > > > > >Fixes in JAWS 6.0 =3D3D20  Used DECtalk ACCESS32=20
> for about a=3D20
> >> > > > > > year and then=3D20
> >> > > > > > >switched to a=3D3D20  DECtalk USB for to get=20
> better broadcast=3D20
> >> > > > > > clarity.  I=3D20
> >> > > > > > >certainly=3D3D20  have noticed a huge difference in
> > responsiveness:
> >> =3D
> >> > > > > The=3D20
> >> > > > > > >DEC=3D3D20  USB is faster - a lot faster!
> >> > > > > > >=3D3D20
> >> > > > > > > -------------------------
> >> > > > > > > Mr. Matthew F. Horspool
> >> > > > > > > =3D3D20
> >> > > > > > > Send me an Electronic Mail to
> >> > > > > > > drjaws@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > > > > > > =3D3D20
> >> > > > > > > Add
> >> > > > > > > horspool@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > > > > > > to your MSN contact list
> >> > > > > > > =3D3D20
> >> > > > > > > Or Visit my web site at
> >> http://www.horspool.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk
> >> > > > > > > -------------------------
> >> > > > > > >=3D3D20
> >> > > > > > >=3D3D20
> >> > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> >> > > > > > > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D3D20
> >> > > > > > >[mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of=20
> John Miller
> >> > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 4:20 PM
> >> > > > > > > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > > > > > > Subject: Re: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was -
> > Re:=3D3D20
> >> =3D
> >> > > > > Bug=3D20
> >> > > > > > >Fixes in JAWS 6.0 =3D3D20 =3D3D20  I don't notice it if =
so.
> >> > > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> >> > > > > > > From: "Chip Orange" <Corange@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > > > > > > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 10:47 AM
> >> > > > > > > Subject: RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was -
> > Re:=3D3D20
> >> =3D
> >> > > > > Bug=3D20
> >> > > > > > >Fixes in =3D3D20  JAWS 6.0 =3D3D20 =3D3D20
> >> > > > > > > > Yes; and they do use some processor time. =20
> The question is
> >> that=3D20
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > > > > on=3D3D20 todays systems, which usually have=20
> plenty of =3D
> >> > > > > processor=3D3D20
> >> > > > > > > speed and RAM,=3D3D20
> >> > > > > > > > does that really make any difference?
> >> > > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > > Now, I know that it does from reports on AT&T Natural
> >> > > > > > > > Voices=3D3D20=3D20 specifically, but I was=20
> wondering about
> >> Eloquence.
> >> > > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > > Thanks.
> >> > > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > > Chip
> >> > > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > > =3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > >> -----Original Message-----
> >> > > > > > > >> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D3D3D20 =3D3D20
> >> > > > > > > [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]=3D3D20
> >> > > > > > > >>On Behalf Of Flor Lynch
> >> > > > > > > >> Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2004 9:00 PM
> >> > > > > > > >> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > > > > > > >> Subject: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was -
> > Re:=3D3D20
> >> > > > > > > Bug=3D3D3D20  Fixes
> >> > > > > > >=3D3D20
> >> > > > > > > >>in JAWS 6.0 =3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > > > >> Software synths take up more RAM than=20
> hardware ones do.
> >> > > > > > > >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> > > > > > > >> From: "Chip Orange" <Corange@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > > > > > > >> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > > > > > > >> Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2004 2:22 PM
> >> > > > > > > >> Subject: RE: Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0
> >> > > > > > > >>=3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > > > >>=3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > > > >> Well, no argument with your first point, it=20
> is more=3D3D20
> >> > > > > > > difficult to have =3D3D20
> >> > > > > > > >>all of the sound coming out of one source; but, when
> > you=3D3D20
> >> > > > > > > need to use =3D3D20
> >> > > > > > > >>headphones so as not to disturb someone=20
> else, it's also =3D
> >> > > > > more=3D3D3D20=3D20
> >> > > > > > > >>=3D3D20 convenient. =3D3D3D20  As for your=20
> second, that just=3D20
> >> > > > > > seems to come=3D20
> >> > > > > > > >>down to personal=3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > > =3D3D20
> >> > > > > > > >>preference  as it doesn't bother me a bit.
> >> > > > > > > >>=3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > > > >> There is one which you didn't mention, but=20
> which I've=3D3D20
> >> > > > > > > always wondered =3D3D20
> >> > > > > > > >>about, and that's how much of a load does Eloquence
> > place=3D3D20
> >> > > > > > > on=3D3D3D20  your=3D3D20
> >> > > > > > > >>system  by having the software synth as compared to
> >> sending=3D3D20
> >> > > > > > > the text=3D3D20
> >> > > > > > > >>to be  spoken out of the serial port? =20
> Anyone have any
> >> facts=3D20
> >> > > > > > > >>along=3D3D20 this
> >> > > > > > > line?
> >> > > > > > > >>=3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > > > >> Thanks.
> >> > > > > > > >>=3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > > > >> Chip
> >> > > > > > > >>=3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > > > >> =3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > > > >>=3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > > > >> > -----Original Message-----
> >> > > > > > > >> > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D3D3D3D20=3D3D20
> >> > > > > > > >> >[mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On=20
> Behalf Of Kerri
> >> > > > > > > >> > Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2004 2:04 AM
> >> > > > > > > >> > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > > > > > > >> > Subject: Re: Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0=20
> =3D3D3D3D20  Hello
> > Chip.
> >> I=3D20
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > > > >> >despise software synthesizers mainly=3D3D20
> >> > > > > > > because=3D3D3D3D20 if=3D3D20
> >> > > > > > > >> >you are required to listen to other media,=20
> I find it=3D20
> >> > > > > > to=3D3D3D3D20=3D3D20=3D20
> >> > > > > > > >> >difficult to with a software synthesizer coming=20
> >> > > > > > > >> >through=3D20
> >> > > > > > the=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > >=3D20
> >> > > > > > > >> >=3D3D
> >> > > > > >=3D20
> >> > > > > > > >> >same speakers. I also dislike elloquence's=20
> voice, *all of
> >> them*
> >> > > > > > > >> > ----- Original Message -----
> >> > > > > > > >> > From: "Chip Orange" <Corange@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > > > > > > >> > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > > > > > > >> > Sent: Monday, December 27, 2004 12:02 PM
> >> > > > > > > >> > Subject: RE: Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0=20
> =3D3D3D3D20 =3D3D3D3D20
> >> I'm=3D20
> >> > > > > > > >> >interested in hearing why, as I use a DT=20
> express at=3D3D20
> >> > > > > > > work,=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > > >=3D3D20
> >> > > > > > > >> >and eloquence at home, and really haven't=20
> felt there's=3D20
> >> > > > > > much=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > >=3D20
> >> > > > > > > >> >=3D3D
> >> > > > > >=3D20
> >> > > > > > > >> >difference.  Perhaps there's just something =
I'm=3D20
> >> > > > > > missing? =3D3D3D3D20 =3D20
> >> > > > > > > >> >Thanks.
> >> > > > > > > >> >=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > > > >> > Chip
> >> > > > > > > >> >=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > > > >> > =3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > > > >> >=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > > > >> > > -----Original Message-----
> >> > > > > > > >> > > From: =
jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D3D3D3D3D20=3D3D20
> >> > > > > > > >> > >[mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On=20
> Behalf Of Kerri
> >> > > > > > > >> > > Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2004 12:17 AM
> >> > > > > > > >> > > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > > > > > > >> > > Subject: Re: Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0=20
> =3D3D3D3D3D20  Chris,
> >> I=3D3D20
> >> > > > > > > vehemently=3D3D20
> >> > > > > > > >> > >despise software synthesizers hence=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > > > >> > my=3D3D3D3D3D20  dectalk=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > > > >> > >use and this is the only version that=20
> has been =3D3D
> >> > > > > > rather=3D3D3D3D3D20=3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > > > >>  sluggish.
> >> > > > > > > >> > > ----- Original Message -----
> >> > > > > > > >> > > From: "Chris Skarstad" <toonhead5@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > > > > > > >> > > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > > > > > > >> > > Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2004 4:15 PM
> >> > > > > > > >> > > Subject: Re: Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0 =3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> =3D3D3D3D3D20 =3D
> >> > > > > =3D3D20
> >> > > > > > > man I guess=3D3D20
> >> > > > > > > >> > >I'm very lucky then. This version=20
> actually runs =3D3D3D
> >> > > > > > > > a=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > > > >> =3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > > > >> > >little faster on my system than 5.10 did. Then
> >> again=3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > > > >> I'm=3D3D3D3D3D20  using
> >> > > > > > > >> =3D3D3D3D
> >> > > > > > > >> a=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > > > >> > >hardware synthesizer which is probably the=3D20
> >> > > > > > reason.=3D3D3D3D3D20  =3D3D3D
> >> > > > > > > > Never=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > > > >> > did like=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > > > >> > >software speech and never will based on
> > what=3D3D3D3D3D20=3D20
> >> > > > > >  I've=3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > > > >> seen.  By the
> >> > > > > > > >> =3D3D3D3D
> >> > > > > > > >>=3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > > > >> > >way, the murge feature is there. go =
to=3D3D3D3D3D20
> > your=3D20
> >> > > > > > jaws=3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > > > >> window with =3D3D3D3D
> >> > > > > > > >> alt=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > > > >> > >plus j, press alt u for=20
> utilities,=3D3D3D3D3D20  and it's
> > =3D
> >> > > > > in=3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > > > >> there. or simply
> >> > > > > > > >> =3D3D3D3D
> >> > > > > > > >>=3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > > > >> > >bring up the context menu if=3D3D3D3D3D20  you're
> > running=3D20
> >> > > > > > jaws in =3D3D
> >> > > > > > =3D3D3D
> >> > > > > > > > the=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > > > >> > system tray=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > > > >> > >and go to utilities=3D3D3D3D3D20  and the murge=20
> >> > > > > > > >> > >utility=3D20
> >> > > > > > is there.=3D3D20
> >> > > > > >=3D20
> >> > > > > > > >> > >=3D3D3D3D3D20  At 04:29 PM 12/21/2004, you wrote:
> >> > > > > > > >> > > >Hay, you mean, they haven't fixed any=20
> right? I'm=3D3D20
> >> > > > > > > sorry, I=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > > > >> > > just couldn't=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > > > >> > > >resist. In truth, this has been the=20
> worst version =3D
> >> > > > > I've=3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > > > >> had the=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > > > >> =3D3D3D3D
> >> > > > > > > >>=3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > > > >> > > >misfortune to deal with in a long while. It
> > runs=3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > > > >> terribley slow,=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > > > >> > > >I'm=3D3D3D3D3D20 getting false=20
> attachments, no merge=3D20
> >> > > > > > feature=3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > > > >> anywhere. I=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > > > >> > > >love=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > > > >> > > spending=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > > > >> > > >money on this "improved" product.=20
> Sorry, I'm being a
> >> grinch.
> >> > > > > > > >> > > >----- Original Message -----
> >> > > > > > > >> > > >From: "RJ" <rjf1@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > > > > > > >> > > >To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > > > > > > >> > > >Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2004 2:16 PM
> >> > > > > > > >> > > >Subject: Re: Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0
> >> > > > > > > >> > > >
> >> > > > > > > >> > > >
> >> > > > > > > >> > > >You are looking right, there just isn't any=20
> >> > > > > > > >> > > >bugs.=3D3D20
> >> > > > > > > Smiling here.
> >> > > > > > > >> > > >----- Original Message -----
> >> > > > > > > >> > > >From: "Margaret Thomas" <iluvtoread@xxxxxxx>
> >> > > > > > > >> > > >To: "jfw" <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > > > > > > >> > > >Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2004 4:15 PM
> >> > > > > > > >> > > >Subject: Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0
> >> > > > > > > >> > > >
> >> > > > > > > >> > > >
> >> > > > > > > >> > > > > Good Afternoon,
> >> > > > > > > >> > > > >
> >> > > > > > > >> > > > >     I had a migraine when JAWS 6.0=20
> was released =3D
> >> > > > > and=3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > > > >> am trying=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > > > >> > > > > to=3D3D3D3D3D20 catch up with list=20
> mail before=3D3D20
> >> > > > > > > installing the new =3D3D3D
> >> > > > > > > > =3D3D3D3D
> >> > > > > > > >> release.
> >> > > > > > > >> > > > >
> >> > > > > > > >> > > > >     I've looked over the What's New=20
> section for
> >> > > > > > > >> > > > > 6.0=3D3D20=3D20 and=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > > > >> > > could swear=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > > > >> > > > > that there used to be a section on=20
> bug fixes, but
> > I'm
> >> =3D
> >> > > > > =3D3D3D
> >> > > > > > > > not=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > > > >> > > finding it=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > > > >> > > > > for this version.  Am I having=20
> another senior
> > moment,
> >> =3D
> >> > > > > =3D3D3D
> >> > > > > > > > or=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > > > >> > > did FS not=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > > > >> > > > > do it this time, or am I looking in=20
> the wrong=3D3D20
> >> > > > > > > place on=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > > > >> > > the FS site? =3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > > > >> > > > > I've been looking at:
> >> > > > > > > >> > > > >
> >> > > > > > > >> > > > >
> >> > > > > > > >> > >=3D20
> >> > > > > >=20
> >http://www.freedomscientific.com/fs_products/software_jaws60f
> >> > > > > > > >> > > ea.asp#JAW
> >> > > > > > > >> > > >S_Features
> >> > > > > > > >> > > > >
> >> > > > > > > >> > > > >     Thanks,
> >> > > > > > > >> > > > > Margaret
> >> > > > > > > >> > > > > iluvtoread@xxxxxxx
> >> > > > > > > >> > > > >
> >> > > > > > > >> > > > > --
> >> > > > > > > >> > > > > To post a message to the list, send=20
> it to=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > > > >> > jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To=3D3D3D3D3D20=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > > > >> > > > > unsubscribe from this mailing list,=20
> send a message
> > to
> >> > > > > > > >> > > >jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the=20
> word unsubscribe
> >> > > > > > > >> > > >in=3D3D20=3D20 the=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > > > >> > > subject line.
> >> > > > > > > >> > > > > Archives located at:=3D20
> >> > > > > > //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
> >> > > > > > > >> > > > >
> >> > > > > > > >> > > > > If you have any concerns about the=20
> list, post =3D3D
> >> > > > > > received=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > > > >> > from the=3D3D3D3D3D20=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > > > >> > > > > list, or
> >> > > > > > > >> > > >the way the list is being run, do not=20
> post them to
> >> > > > > > > >> > > >the=3D3D20=3D20 list.=3D3D3D3D20=20
> Rather=3D3D3D3D3D20 contact
> > the
> >> > > > > > > >> > > >list owner =3D
> >> > > > > at=3D3D20=3D20
> >> > > > > > > >> > > >jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > > > > > > >> > > > >
> >> > > > > > > >> > > >
> >> > > > > > > >> > > >--
> >> > > > > > > >> > > >To post a message to the list, send it=20
> to=3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > > > >> jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > > > >> =3D3D3D3D
> >> > > > > > > >>=3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > > > >> > > >unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a
> >> message=3D3D20=3D20
> >> > > > > > > >> > > >to=3D3D3D3D3D20=3D3D3D3D20=20
> jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > with=3D20
> >> > > > > > the word=3D3D20=3D20
> >> > > > > > > >> > > >unsubscribe in the=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > > > >> > > subject line.
> >> > > > > > > >> > > >Archives located at:
> >> //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
> >> > > > > > > >> > > >
> >> > > > > > > >> > > >If you have any concerns about the list, post=20
> >> > > > > > > >> > > >received
> >> =3D3D3D
> >> > > > > > > > from=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > > > >> > > the list,=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > > > >> > > >or the way the list is being run, do=20
> not post them
> >> to=3D3D20
> >> > > > > > > the=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > > > >> > > list. Rather=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > > > >> > > >contact the list owner at=20
> jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > > > > > > >> > > >
> >> > > > > > > >> > > >
> >> > > > > > > >> > > >--
> >> > > > > > > >> > > >No virus found in this incoming message.
> >> > > > > > > >> > > >Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.
> >> > > > > > > >> > > >Version: 7.0.296 / Virus Database: 265.6.3 -
> >> Release=3D3D20
> >> > > > > > > Date:=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > > > >> > 12/21/2004
> >> > > > > > > >> > > >
> >> > > > > > > >> > > >
> >> > > > > > > >> > > >
> >> > > > > > > >> > > >
> >> > > > > > > >> > > >--
> >> > > > > > > >> > > >No virus found in this outgoing message.
> >> > > > > > > >> > > >Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.
> >> > > > > > > >> > > >Version: 7.0.296 / Virus Database: 265.6.3 -
> >> Release=3D3D20
> >> > > > > > > Date:=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > > > >> > 12/21/2004
> >> > > > > > > >> > > >
> >> > > > > > > >> > > >--
> >> > > > > > > >> > > >To post a message to the list, send it=20
> to=3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > > > >> jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > > > >> =3D3D3D3D
> >> > > > > > > >>=3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > > > >> > > >unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a
> >> message=3D3D20=3D20
> >> > > > > > > >> > > >to=3D3D3D3D3D20=3D3D3D3D20=20
> jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > with=3D20
> >> > > > > > the word=3D3D20=3D20
> >> > > > > > > >> > > >unsubscribe in the=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > > > >> > > subject line.
> >> > > > > > > >> > > >Archives located at:
> >> //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
> >> > > > > > > >> > > >
> >> > > > > > > >> > > >If you have any concerns about the list, post=20
> >> > > > > > > >> > > >received
> >> =3D3D3D
> >> > > > > > > > from=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > > > >> > > the list,=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > > > >> > > >or the way the list is being run, do=20
> not post them
> >> to=3D3D20
> >> > > > > > > the=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > > > >> > > list. Rather=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > > > >> > > >contact the list owner at=20
> jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > > > > > > >> > >=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > > > >> > > --
> >> > > > > > > >> > > To post a message to the list, send it =
to=3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > > > >> jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D3D3D3D3D20  To
> >> > > > > > > >> =3D3D3D3D
> >> > > > > > > >>=3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > > > >> > >unsubscribe from this mailing list, send=20
> a message=3D3D20
> >> > > > > > > to=3D3D3D3D3D20 =3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > > >=3D3D20
> >> > > > > > > >> > >jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word=20
> unsubscribe =3D
> >> > > > > in=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > > > >> > the=3D3D3D3D3D20  subject=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > > > >> > >line.
> >> > > > > > > >> > > Archives located at:
> >> //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
> >> > > > > > > >> > >=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > > > >> > > If you have any concerns about the list, post
> >> received=3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > > > >> from=3D3D3D3D3D20  =3D3D3D3D
> >> > > > > > > >> the=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > > > >> > >list, or the way the list is being run, do not
> > post=3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > > > >> them=3D3D3D3D3D20  to the
> >> > > > > > > >> =3D3D3D3D
> >> > > > > > > >>=3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > > > >> > >list. Rather contact the list owner =
at=3D3D3D3D3D20
> > =3D3D3D3D
> >> > > > > > > >> jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > > > > > > >> > >=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > > > >> > >=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > > > >> > > --
> >> > > > > > > >> > > No virus found in this incoming message.
> >> > > > > > > >> > > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.
> >> > > > > > > >> > > Version: 7.0.296 / Virus Database:=20
> 265.6.3 - Release
> > =3D3D
> >> > > > > > Date:=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > > > >> > 12/21/2004=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > > > >> > >=3D3D3D3D3D20 =3D3D3D3D3D20 =3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> 3D3D3D3D20  --=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > > > >> > >=3D
> >> > > > >  No=3D20
> >> > > > > > > >> > >virus=3D3D20
> >> > > > > > > found in this
> >> > > > > > >=3D3D20
> >> > > > > > > >> > >=3D3D3D
> >> > > > > > > > outgoing =3D3D3D3D
> >> > > > > > > >> message.
> >> > > > > > > >> > > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.
> >> > > > > > > >> > > Version: 7.0.296 / Virus Database:=20
> 265.6.3 - Release
> > =3D3D
> >> > > > > > Date:=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > > > >> > 12/21/2004=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > > > >> > >=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > > > >> > > --
> >> > > > > > > >> > > To post a message to the list, send it to=3D20
> >> > > > > > jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx  =3D3D
> >> > > > > > =3D3D3D
> >> > > > > > > > To=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > > > >> > >unsubscribe from this mailing list, send=20
> a message=3D3D20
> >> > > > > > > to=3D3D3D3D3D20 =3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > > >=3D3D20
> >> > > > > > > >> > >jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word=20
> unsubscribe =3D
> >> > > > > in=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > > > >> > the=3D3D3D3D3D20  subject=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > > > >> > >line.
> >> > > > > > > >> > > Archives located at:
> >> //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
> >> > > > > > > >> > >=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > > > >> > > If you have any concerns about the list, post
> >> received=3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > > > >> from=3D3D3D3D3D20  =3D3D3D3D
> >> > > > > > > >> the=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > > > >> > >list, or the way the list is being run, do not
> > post=3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > > > >> them=3D3D3D3D3D20  to the
> >> > > > > > > >> =3D3D3D3D
> >> > > > > > > >>=3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > > > >> > >list. Rather contact the list owner =
at=3D3D3D3D3D20
> > =3D3D3D3D
> >> > > > > > > >> jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > > > > > > >> > >=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > > > >> > --
> >> > > > > > > >> > To post a message to the list, send it to=3D3D20
> >> > > > > > > jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D3D3D3D20 To=3D3D20
> >> > > > > > > >> >unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a=20
> message =3D
> >> > > > > to=3D3D3D3D20=3D3D20=3D20
> >> > > > > > > >> >jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word=20
> unsubscribe in=3D20
> >> > > > > > > >> >the=3D3D3D3D20=3D3D20 subject line.  Archives=20
> located at:
> >> > > > > > > >> >//www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
> >> > > > > > > >> >=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > > > >> > If you have any concerns about the list,=20
> post received
> > =3D3D
> >> > > > > > from=3D3D3D3D20=3D3D20
> >> > > > > > > >> >the list, or the way the list is being run, do not
> > post=3D3D20
> >> > > > > > > them=3D3D3D3D20 to=3D3D20
> >> > > > > > > >> >the list. Rather contact the list owner
> > at=3D3D3D3D20=3D3D20=3D20
> >> > > > > > > >> >jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx =3D3D3D3D20 =3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > > > >> > --
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> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > From: "shelly christner" <shelly4jericho@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Subject: I am still confused about using windows media=20
> player with jaws=20
> > five po
> > Date: Thu, 30 Dec 2004 16:21:27 -0600
> >
> > Hello there,
> > Okay the windows media player info that i have gotten is=20
> still confusing=20
> > to
> > me.
> > Are there any other free programs that i could use to burn=20
> music with jaws
> > if windows media player is to hard to figure out.
> > I have only had my computer for a month.
> > the windows media player came with my computer.
> > I dont no where any of that burning cd commands are at.
> > Thank you all for helping me,
> > shelly
> >
> > _________________________________________________________________
> > Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download=20
> today - it's FREE!
> > http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > From: "TerriLynne" <terri_lynne@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Subject: Re: Jfw and faxes
> > Date: Thu, 30 Dec 2004 15:24:19 -0700
> >
> > Hi Jed,
> > I love Mighty Fax. I have used it quite a bit and have had=20
> no problems=20
> > with
> > it.
> >
> > After you download an install the program, this is how you=20
> use it with a
> > dial-up modem.
> >
> > Make sure your computer is not connected, or online. Then=20
> you either=20
> > create
> > your document in a word processor, or open an already=20
> prepared document.=20
> > Hit
> > ctrl+p for print. Go to the box the specifies printer, and=20
> choose Mighty
> > Fax. Hit enter, and the program will walk you through=20
> putting together a
> > cover sheet. Then it connects and sends the document.
> >
> > HTH,
> >
> > TerriLynne
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > From: "Flor Lynch" <florlync@xxxxxx>
> > Subject: Re: Oe hotkey won't work in jaws 6.
> > Date: Thu, 30 Dec 2004 22:56:19 -0000
> >
> > Walter: Try Ctrl+Grave.  That might do it.
> > ----- Original Message -----=20
> > From: "Walter Siren" <wsiren@xxxxxxx>
> > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 7:13 PM
> > Subject: Re: Oe hotkey won't work in jaws 6.
> >
> >
> > actually, if I tab from the to field, I have to tab four=20
> times to get
> > into the messsage body, while with earlier
> > versions of jaws, I only had to tab three times.  Now, I=20
> don't have the
> > bcc field showing.  I am using windows 98 se.
> > Walter Siren
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> >>From: <ptusing@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 11:05 AM
> > Subject: Re: Oe hotkey won't work in jaws 6.
> >
> >
> >> Hi,  Walter,
> >> The  "alt grave"  hot key is onet hing in  Outlook=20
> Expressthat doesw
> > ork for
> >> me with JAWS 6.
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Walter Siren" <wsiren@xxxxxxx>
> >> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 11:19 AM
> >> Subject: Oe hotkey won't work in jaws 6.
> >>
> >>
> >> > I recently found a hotkey for OE.  This key is alt+grave, this
> > hotkey
> >> allows one to skip from the to field in  a message
> >> > to the message body.  With jaws 6 however, it doesn't work.  Has
> > anybody
> >> else ran across this.
> >> > Walter Siren
> >> >
> >> > ----- Original Message -----
> >> > From: "Horspool, Matthew F." <drjaws@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 10:04 AM
> >> > Subject: RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re: Bug
> > Fixes in
> >> JAWS 6.0
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > > I'm using a 2.53 GHz processor.  I think the other=20
> figure was from
> > an
> >> > > old laptop.
> >> > > -------------------------
> >> > > Mr. Matthew F. Horspool
> >> > >
> >> > > Send me an Electronic Mail to
> >> > > drjaws@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > >
> >> > > Add
> >> > > horspool@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > > to your MSN contact list
> >> > >
> >> > > Or Visit my web site at
> >> > > http://www.horspool.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk
> >> > > -------------------------
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > -----Original Message-----
> >> > > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=20
> [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > On
> >> > > Behalf Of david poehlman
> >> > > Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 3:23 PM
> >> > > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > > Subject: Re: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re: Bug
> > Fixes in
> >> > > JAWS 6.0
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > What do you get then when you look at system in controll panel?
> >> > >
> >> > > Johnnie Apple Seed
> >> > >
> >> > > ----- Original Message -----
> >> > > From: "Horspool, Matthew F." <drjaws@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > > Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 10:13 AM
> >> > > Subject: RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re: Bug
> > Fixes in
> >> > >
> >> > > JAWS 6.0
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > Right.  I used the System Information tool and saved in plain
> > text.
> >> > >
> >> > > -------------------------
> >> > > Mr. Matthew F. Horspool
> >> > >
> >> > > Send me an Electronic Mail to
> >> > > drjaws@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > >
> >> > > Add
> >> > > horspool@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > > to your MSN contact list
> >> > >
> >> > > Or Visit my web site at=20
> http://www.horspool.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk
> >> > > -------------------------
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > -----Original Message-----
> >> > > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=20
> [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > On
> >> > > Behalf Of david poehlman
> >> > > Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 3:11 PM
> >> > > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > > Subject: Re: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re: Bug
> > Fixes in
> >> > > JAWS 6.0
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > matt,
> >> > >
> >> > > If you go to control panel, open system and read with the jaws
> > cursor or
> >> > >
> >> > > ins+b, you are told in plain english what system you have.  I'm
> > not sure
> >> > > what you are running to get the result you have below,=20
> but thought
> > this
> >> > > might help.
> >> > >
> >> > > Johnnie Apple Seed
> >> > >
> >> > > ----- Original Message -----
> >> > > From: "Horspool, Matthew F." <drjaws@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > > Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 3:26 AM
> >> > > Subject: RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re: Bug
> > Fixes in
> >> > >
> >> > > JAWS 6.0
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > OK, I thought I got it right, but when I interrogated=20
> the system
> > this
> >> > > line came up:
> >> > > Processor: x86 Family 15 Model 2 Stepping 7=20
> GenuineIntel ~2532 MhZ
> >> > >
> >> > > If I interpreted this line correctly I have a 2532MhZ=20
> processor!
> >> > >
> >> > > -------------------------
> >> > > Mr. Matthew F. Horspool
> >> > >
> >> > > Send me an Electronic Mail to
> >> > > drjaws@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > >
> >> > > Add
> >> > > horspool@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > > to your MSN contact list
> >> > >
> >> > > Or Visit my web site at=20
> http://www.horspool.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk
> >> > > -------------------------
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > -----Original Message-----
> >> > > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=20
> [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > On
> >> > > Behalf Of Chip Orange
> >> > > Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 5:13 PM
> >> > > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > > Subject: RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re: Bug
> > Fixes in
> >> > > JAWS 6.0
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > If you got that right (and it's not a typo) and your processor
> > speed was
> >> > > only 256 mhz, then I could see why switching to a hardware
> > synthesizer
> >> > > had such an improvement for you.  That was quite a=20
> load for your
> > system.
> >> > >
> >> > > Chip
> >> > >
> >> > > =3D20
> >> > >
> >> > > > -----Original Message-----
> >> > > > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D20
> > [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> >> > > >On Behalf Of Horspool, Matthew F.
> >> > > > Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 12:05 PM
> >> > > > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > > > Subject: RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers -=20
> was - Re:=3D20
> > Bug
> >> > > >Fixes in JAWS 6.0 =3D20  Well I had 512MB RAM and about 256MHZ
> >> > > >Processors.  Running at=3D20  once I had a copy of=20
> WinAmp with the
> > Audio
> >> > > >stocker and=3D20  SHOUTcast plugin, Microsoft Outlook, =
SHOUTcast
> > DNAS
> >> > > >(GUI),=3D20  BVentrilo and the Ventrilo Server, and a=20
> copy of JFW.
> >> > > >This=3D20  slowed down the system quite a bit. =3D20
> >> > > > -------------------------
> >> > > > Mr. Matthew F. Horspool
> >> > > > =3D20
> >> > > > Send me an Electronic Mail to
> >> > > > drjaws@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > > > =3D20
> >> > > > Add
> >> > > > horspool@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > > > to your MSN contact list
> >> > > > =3D20
> >> > > > Or Visit my web site at
> >> > > > http://www.horspool.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk
> >> > > > -------------------------
> >> > > >=3D20
> >> > > >=3D20
> >> > > > -----Original Message-----
> >> > > > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D20
> >> > > > [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Chip Orange
> >> > > > Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 4:38 PM
> >> > > > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > > > Subject: RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers -=20
> was - Re:=3D20
> >> > > > Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0
> >> > > >=3D20
> >> > > >=3D20
> >> > > > Ok,  this is the first opinion which strongly=20
> prefers one to=3D20
> >> > > > another for other than subjective reasons, and I=20
> appreciate it.
> >> > > >=3D20
> >> > > > Would you say the system you were using when you made =
the=3D20
> >> > > > switch was unusually slow, short of ram, or=20
> overloaded with=3D20
> >> > > > processing tasks?
> >> > > >=3D20
> >> > > > Thanks.
> >> > > >=3D20
> >> > > > Chip
> >> > > >=3D20
> >> > > > =3D3D20
> >> > > >=3D20
> >> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> >> > > > > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D3D20 =3D20
> >> > > > [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]=3D20
> >> > > > >On Behalf Of Horspool, Matthew F.
> >> > > > > Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 11:30 AM
> >> > > > > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > > > > Subject: RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was -
> > Re:=3D3D20  =3D
> >> > > Bug=3D20
> >> > > > >Fixes in JAWS 6.0 =3D3D20  Used DECtalk ACCESS32 for=20
> about a=3D20
> >> > > > year and then=3D20
> >> > > > >switched to a=3D3D20  DECtalk USB for to get better=20
> broadcast=3D20
> >> > > > clarity.  I=3D20
> >> > > > >certainly=3D3D20  have noticed a huge difference in
> > responsiveness:  =3D
> >> > > The=3D20
> >> > > > >DEC=3D3D20  USB is faster - a lot faster!
> >> > > > >=3D3D20
> >> > > > > -------------------------
> >> > > > > Mr. Matthew F. Horspool
> >> > > > > =3D3D20
> >> > > > > Send me an Electronic Mail to
> >> > > > > drjaws@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > > > > =3D3D20
> >> > > > > Add
> >> > > > > horspool@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > > > > to your MSN contact list
> >> > > > > =3D3D20
> >> > > > > Or Visit my web site at
> > http://www.horspool.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk
> >> > > > > -------------------------
> >> > > > >=3D3D20
> >> > > > >=3D3D20
> >> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> >> > > > > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D3D20
> >> > > > >[mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of John Miller
> >> > > > > Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 4:20 PM
> >> > > > > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > > > > Subject: Re: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was -
> > Re:=3D3D20  =3D
> >> > > Bug=3D20
> >> > > > >Fixes in JAWS 6.0 =3D3D20 =3D3D20  I don't notice it if so.
> >> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> >> > > > > From: "Chip Orange" <Corange@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > > > > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > > > > Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 10:47 AM
> >> > > > > Subject: RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was -
> > Re:=3D3D20  =3D
> >> > > Bug=3D20
> >> > > > >Fixes in =3D3D20  JAWS 6.0 =3D3D20 =3D3D20
> >> > > > > > Yes; and they do use some processor time.  The=20
> question is
> > that=3D20
> >> > >
> >> > > > > > on=3D3D20 todays systems, which usually have plenty of =
=3D
> >> > > processor=3D3D20
> >> > > > > speed and RAM,=3D3D20
> >> > > > > > does that really make any difference?
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > Now, I know that it does from reports on AT&T Natural
> >> > > > > > Voices=3D3D20=3D20 specifically, but I was wondering =
about
> > Eloquence.
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > Thanks.
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > Chip
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > =3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > >> -----Original Message-----
> >> > > > > >> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D3D3D20 =3D3D20
> >> > > > > [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]=3D3D20
> >> > > > > >>On Behalf Of Flor Lynch
> >> > > > > >> Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2004 9:00 PM
> >> > > > > >> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > > > > >> Subject: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was -
> > Re:=3D3D20
> >> > > > > Bug=3D3D3D20  Fixes
> >> > > > >=3D3D20
> >> > > > > >>in JAWS 6.0 =3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > >> Software synths take up more RAM than hardware ones do.
> >> > > > > >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> > > > > >> From: "Chip Orange" <Corange@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > > > > >> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > > > > >> Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2004 2:22 PM
> >> > > > > >> Subject: RE: Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0
> >> > > > > >>=3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > >>=3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > >> Well, no argument with your first point, it is =
more=3D3D20
> >> > > > > difficult to have =3D3D20
> >> > > > > >>all of the sound coming out of one source; but, when
> > you=3D3D20
> >> > > > > need to use =3D3D20
> >> > > > > >>headphones so as not to disturb someone else, it's also =
=3D
> >> > > more=3D3D3D20=3D20
> >> > > > > >>=3D3D20 convenient. =3D3D3D20  As for your second,=20
> that just=3D20
> >> > > > seems to come=3D20
> >> > > > > >>down to personal=3D3D3D20
> >> > > > =3D3D20
> >> > > > > >>preference  as it doesn't bother me a bit.
> >> > > > > >>=3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > >> There is one which you didn't mention, but=20
> which I've=3D3D20
> >> > > > > always wondered =3D3D20
> >> > > > > >>about, and that's how much of a load does Eloquence
> > place=3D3D20
> >> > > > > on=3D3D3D20  your=3D3D20
> >> > > > > >>system  by having the software synth as compared to
> > sending=3D3D20
> >> > > > > the text=3D3D20
> >> > > > > >>to be  spoken out of the serial port?  Anyone have any
> > facts=3D20
> >> > > > > >>along=3D3D20 this
> >> > > > > line?
> >> > > > > >>=3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > >> Thanks.
> >> > > > > >>=3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > >> Chip
> >> > > > > >>=3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > >> =3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > >>=3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > >> > -----Original Message-----
> >> > > > > >> > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D3D3D3D20=3D3D20
> >> > > > > >> >[mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Kerri
> >> > > > > >> > Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2004 2:04 AM
> >> > > > > >> > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > > > > >> > Subject: Re: Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0 =3D3D3D3D20  Hello
> > Chip. I=3D20
> >> > >
> >> > > > > >> >despise software synthesizers mainly=3D3D20
> >> > > > > because=3D3D3D3D20 if=3D3D20
> >> > > > > >> >you are required to listen to other media, I find =
it=3D20
> >> > > > to=3D3D3D3D20=3D3D20=3D20
> >> > > > > >> >difficult to with a software synthesizer=20
> coming through=3D20
> >> > > > the=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >=3D20
> >> > > > > >> >=3D3D
> >> > > >=3D20
> >> > > > > >> >same speakers. I also dislike elloquence's=20
> voice, *all of
> > them*
> >> > > > > >> > ----- Original Message -----
> >> > > > > >> > From: "Chip Orange" <Corange@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > > > > >> > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > > > > >> > Sent: Monday, December 27, 2004 12:02 PM
> >> > > > > >> > Subject: RE: Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0 =3D3D3D3D20 =
=3D3D3D3D20
> > I'm=3D20
> >> > > > > >> >interested in hearing why, as I use a DT=20
> express at=3D3D20
> >> > > > > work,=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > >=3D3D20
> >> > > > > >> >and eloquence at home, and really haven't felt=20
> there's=3D20
> >> > > > much=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > >=3D20
> >> > > > > >> >=3D3D
> >> > > >=3D20
> >> > > > > >> >difference.  Perhaps there's just something I'm=3D20
> >> > > > missing? =3D3D3D3D20 =3D20
> >> > > > > >> >Thanks.
> >> > > > > >> >=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > >> > Chip
> >> > > > > >> >=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > >> > =3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > >> >=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > >> > > -----Original Message-----
> >> > > > > >> > > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D3D3D3D3D20=3D3D20
> >> > > > > >> > >[mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Kerri
> >> > > > > >> > > Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2004 12:17 AM
> >> > > > > >> > > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > > > > >> > > Subject: Re: Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0=20
> =3D3D3D3D3D20  Chris,
> > I=3D3D20
> >> > > > > vehemently=3D3D20
> >> > > > > >> > >despise software synthesizers hence=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > >> > my=3D3D3D3D3D20  dectalk=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > >> > >use and this is the only version that has been =3D3D
> >> > > > rather=3D3D3D3D3D20=3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > >>  sluggish.
> >> > > > > >> > > ----- Original Message -----
> >> > > > > >> > > From: "Chris Skarstad" <toonhead5@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > > > > >> > > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > > > > >> > > Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2004 4:15 PM
> >> > > > > >> > > Subject: Re: Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0 =3D3D3D3D3D20
> > =3D3D3D3D3D20 =3D
> >> > > =3D3D20
> >> > > > > man I guess=3D3D20
> >> > > > > >> > >I'm very lucky then. This version actually runs =
=3D3D3D
> >> > > > > > a=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > >> =3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > >> > >little faster on my system than 5.10 did. Then
> > again=3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > >> I'm=3D3D3D3D3D20  using
> >> > > > > >> =3D3D3D3D
> >> > > > > >> a=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > >> > >hardware synthesizer which is probably the=3D20
> >> > > > reason.=3D3D3D3D3D20  =3D3D3D
> >> > > > > > Never=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > >> > did like=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > >> > >software speech and never will based on
> > what=3D3D3D3D3D20=3D20
> >> > > >  I've=3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > >> seen.  By the
> >> > > > > >> =3D3D3D3D
> >> > > > > >>=3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > >> > >way, the murge feature is there. go to=3D3D3D3D3D20
> > your=3D20
> >> > > > jaws=3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > >> window with =3D3D3D3D
> >> > > > > >> alt=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > >> > >plus j, press alt u for=20
> utilities,=3D3D3D3D3D20  and it's
> > =3D
> >> > > in=3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > >> there. or simply
> >> > > > > >> =3D3D3D3D
> >> > > > > >>=3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > >> > >bring up the context menu if=3D3D3D3D3D20  you're
> > running=3D20
> >> > > > jaws in =3D3D
> >> > > > =3D3D3D
> >> > > > > > the=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > >> > system tray=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > >> > >and go to utilities=3D3D3D3D3D20  and the=20
> murge utility=3D20
> >> > > > is there.=3D3D20
> >> > > >=3D20
> >> > > > > >> > >=3D3D3D3D3D20  At 04:29 PM 12/21/2004, you wrote:
> >> > > > > >> > > >Hay, you mean, they haven't fixed any=20
> right? I'm=3D3D20
> >> > > > > sorry, I=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > >> > > just couldn't=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > >> > > >resist. In truth, this has been the worst version =
=3D
> >> > > I've=3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > >> had the=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > >> =3D3D3D3D
> >> > > > > >>=3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > >> > > >misfortune to deal with in a long while. It
> > runs=3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > >> terribley slow,=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > >> > > >I'm=3D3D3D3D3D20 getting false attachments,=20
> no merge=3D20
> >> > > > feature=3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > >> anywhere. I=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > >> > > >love=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > >> > > spending=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > >> > > >money on this "improved" product. Sorry,=20
> I'm being a
> > grinch.
> >> > > > > >> > > >----- Original Message -----
> >> > > > > >> > > >From: "RJ" <rjf1@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > > > > >> > > >To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > > > > >> > > >Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2004 2:16 PM
> >> > > > > >> > > >Subject: Re: Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0
> >> > > > > >> > > >
> >> > > > > >> > > >
> >> > > > > >> > > >You are looking right, there just isn't=20
> any bugs.=3D3D20
> >> > > > > Smiling here.
> >> > > > > >> > > >----- Original Message -----
> >> > > > > >> > > >From: "Margaret Thomas" <iluvtoread@xxxxxxx>
> >> > > > > >> > > >To: "jfw" <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > > > > >> > > >Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2004 4:15 PM
> >> > > > > >> > > >Subject: Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0
> >> > > > > >> > > >
> >> > > > > >> > > >
> >> > > > > >> > > > > Good Afternoon,
> >> > > > > >> > > > >
> >> > > > > >> > > > >     I had a migraine when JAWS 6.0 was=20
> released =3D
> >> > > and=3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > >> am trying=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > >> > > > > to=3D3D3D3D3D20 catch up with list mail=20
> before=3D3D20
> >> > > > > installing the new =3D3D3D
> >> > > > > > =3D3D3D3D
> >> > > > > >> release.
> >> > > > > >> > > > >
> >> > > > > >> > > > >     I've looked over the What's New section for
> >> > > > > >> > > > > 6.0=3D3D20=3D20 and=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > >> > > could swear=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > >> > > > > that there used to be a section on bug=20
> fixes, but
> > I'm =3D
> >> > > =3D3D3D
> >> > > > > > not=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > >> > > finding it=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > >> > > > > for this version.  Am I having another senior
> > moment, =3D
> >> > > =3D3D3D
> >> > > > > > or=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > >> > > did FS not=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > >> > > > > do it this time, or am I looking in the=20
> wrong=3D3D20
> >> > > > > place on=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > >> > > the FS site? =3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > >> > > > > I've been looking at:
> >> > > > > >> > > > >
> >> > > > > >> > > > >
> >> > > > > >> > >=3D20
> >> > > >=20
> >http://www.freedomscientific.com/fs_products/software_jaws60f
> >> > > > > >> > > ea.asp#JAW
> >> > > > > >> > > >S_Features
> >> > > > > >> > > > >
> >> > > > > >> > > > >     Thanks,
> >> > > > > >> > > > > Margaret
> >> > > > > >> > > > > iluvtoread@xxxxxxx
> >> > > > > >> > > > >
> >> > > > > >> > > > > --
> >> > > > > >> > > > > To post a message to the list, send it=20
> to=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > >> > jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To=3D3D3D3D3D20=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > >> > > > > unsubscribe from this mailing list,=20
> send a message
> > to
> >> > > > > >> > > >jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe
> >> > > > > >> > > >in=3D3D20=3D20 the=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > >> > > subject line.
> >> > > > > >> > > > > Archives located at:=3D20
> >> > > > //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
> >> > > > > >> > > > >
> >> > > > > >> > > > > If you have any concerns about the=20
> list, post =3D3D
> >> > > > received=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > >> > from the=3D3D3D3D3D20=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > >> > > > > list, or
> >> > > > > >> > > >the way the list is being run, do not post them to
> >> > > > > >> > > >the=3D3D20=3D20 list.=3D3D3D3D20=20
> Rather=3D3D3D3D3D20 contact
> > the
> >> > > > > >> > > >list owner =3D
> >> > > at=3D3D20=3D20
> >> > > > > >> > > >jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > > > > >> > > > >
> >> > > > > >> > > >
> >> > > > > >> > > >--
> >> > > > > >> > > >To post a message to the list, send it to=3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > >> jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > >> =3D3D3D3D
> >> > > > > >>=3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > >> > > >unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a
> > message=3D3D20=3D20
> >> > > > > >> > > >to=3D3D3D3D3D20=3D3D3D3D20 =
jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > with=3D20
> >> > > > the word=3D3D20=3D20
> >> > > > > >> > > >unsubscribe in the=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > >> > > subject line.
> >> > > > > >> > > >Archives located at:
> > //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
> >> > > > > >> > > >
> >> > > > > >> > > >If you have any concerns about the list,=20
> post received
> > =3D3D3D
> >> > > > > > from=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > >> > > the list,=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > >> > > >or the way the list is being run, do not post them
> > to=3D3D20
> >> > > > > the=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > >> > > list. Rather=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > >> > > >contact the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > > > > >> > > >
> >> > > > > >> > > >
> >> > > > > >> > > >--
> >> > > > > >> > > >No virus found in this incoming message.
> >> > > > > >> > > >Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.
> >> > > > > >> > > >Version: 7.0.296 / Virus Database: 265.6.3 -
> > Release=3D3D20
> >> > > > > Date:=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > >> > 12/21/2004
> >> > > > > >> > > >
> >> > > > > >> > > >
> >> > > > > >> > > >
> >> > > > > >> > > >
> >> > > > > >> > > >--
> >> > > > > >> > > >No virus found in this outgoing message.
> >> > > > > >> > > >Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.
> >> > > > > >> > > >Version: 7.0.296 / Virus Database: 265.6.3 -
> > Release=3D3D20
> >> > > > > Date:=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > >> > 12/21/2004
> >> > > > > >> > > >
> >> > > > > >> > > >--
> >> > > > > >> > > >To post a message to the list, send it to=3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > >> jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > >> =3D3D3D3D
> >> > > > > >>=3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > >> > > >unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a
> > message=3D3D20=3D20
> >> > > > > >> > > >to=3D3D3D3D3D20=3D3D3D3D20 =
jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > with=3D20
> >> > > > the word=3D3D20=3D20
> >> > > > > >> > > >unsubscribe in the=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > >> > > subject line.
> >> > > > > >> > > >Archives located at:
> > //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
> >> > > > > >> > > >
> >> > > > > >> > > >If you have any concerns about the list,=20
> post received
> > =3D3D3D
> >> > > > > > from=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > >> > > the list,=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > >> > > >or the way the list is being run, do not post them
> > to=3D3D20
> >> > > > > the=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > >> > > list. Rather=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > >> > > >contact the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > > > > >> > >=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > >> > > --
> >> > > > > >> > > To post a message to the list, send it to=3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > >> jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D3D3D3D3D20  To
> >> > > > > >> =3D3D3D3D
> >> > > > > >>=3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > >> > >unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a=20
> message=3D3D20
> >> > > > > to=3D3D3D3D3D20 =3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > >=3D3D20
> >> > > > > >> > >jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe =
=3D
> >> > > in=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > >> > the=3D3D3D3D3D20  subject=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > >> > >line.
> >> > > > > >> > > Archives located at:
> > //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
> >> > > > > >> > >=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > >> > > If you have any concerns about the list, post
> > received=3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > >> from=3D3D3D3D3D20  =3D3D3D3D
> >> > > > > >> the=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > >> > >list, or the way the list is being run, do not
> > post=3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > >> them=3D3D3D3D3D20  to the
> >> > > > > >> =3D3D3D3D
> >> > > > > >>=3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > >> > >list. Rather contact the list owner at=3D3D3D3D3D20
> > =3D3D3D3D
> >> > > > > >> jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > > > > >> > >=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > >> > >=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > >> > > --
> >> > > > > >> > > No virus found in this incoming message.
> >> > > > > >> > > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.
> >> > > > > >> > > Version: 7.0.296 / Virus Database: 265.6.3 - Release
> > =3D3D
> >> > > > Date:=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > >> > 12/21/2004=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > >> > >=3D3D3D3D3D20 =3D3D3D3D3D20 =3D3D3D3D3D20
> > 3D3D3D3D20  --=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > >
> >> > > > > >> > >=3D
> >> > >  No=3D20
> >> > > > > >> > >virus=3D3D20
> >> > > > > found in this
> >> > > > >=3D3D20
> >> > > > > >> > >=3D3D3D
> >> > > > > > outgoing =3D3D3D3D
> >> > > > > >> message.
> >> > > > > >> > > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.
> >> > > > > >> > > Version: 7.0.296 / Virus Database: 265.6.3 - Release
> > =3D3D
> >> > > > Date:=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > >> > 12/21/2004=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > >> > >=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > >> > > --
> >> > > > > >> > > To post a message to the list, send it to=3D20
> >> > > > jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx  =3D3D
> >> > > > =3D3D3D
> >> > > > > > To=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > >> > >unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a=20
> message=3D3D20
> >> > > > > to=3D3D3D3D3D20 =3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > >=3D3D20
> >> > > > > >> > >jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe =
=3D
> >> > > in=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > >> > the=3D3D3D3D3D20  subject=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > >> > >line.
> >> > > > > >> > > Archives located at:
> > //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
> >> > > > > >> > >=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > >> > > If you have any concerns about the list, post
> > received=3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > >> from=3D3D3D3D3D20  =3D3D3D3D
> >> > > > > >> the=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > >> > >list, or the way the list is being run, do not
> > post=3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > >> them=3D3D3D3D3D20  to the
> >> > > > > >> =3D3D3D3D
> >> > > > > >>=3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > >> > >list. Rather contact the list owner at=3D3D3D3D3D20
> > =3D3D3D3D
> >> > > > > >> jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > > > > >> > >=3D3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > >> > --
> >> > > > > >> > To post a message to the list, send it to=3D3D20
> >> > > > > jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D3D3D3D20 To=3D3D20
> >> > > > > >> >unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message =3D
> >> > > to=3D3D3D3D20=3D3D20=3D20
> >> > > > > >> >jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word=20
> unsubscribe in=3D20
> >> > > > > >> >the=3D3D3D3D20=3D3D20 subject line.  Archives located =
at:
> >> > > > > >> >//www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
> >> > > > > >> >=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > >> > If you have any concerns about the list, post received
> > =3D3D
> >> > > > from=3D3D3D3D20=3D3D20
> >> > > > > >> >the list, or the way the list is being run, do not
> > post=3D3D20
> >> > > > > them=3D3D3D3D20 to=3D3D20
> >> > > > > >> >the list. Rather contact the list owner
> > at=3D3D3D3D20=3D3D20=3D20
> >> > > > > >> >jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx =3D3D3D3D20 =3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > >> > --
> >> > > > > >> > No virus found in this incoming message.
> >> > > > > >> > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.
> >> > > > > >> > Version: 7.0.298 / Virus Database: 265.6.5 - Release =
=3D
> >> > > Date:=3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > >> 12/26/2004
> >> > > > > >> >=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > >> >=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > >> >=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > >> >=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > >> >=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > >> > --=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > >> > No virus found in this outgoing message.
> >> > > > > >> > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.
> >> > > > > >> > Version: 7.0.298 / Virus Database: 265.6.5 - Release =
=3D
> >> > > Date:=3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > >> 12/26/2004
> >> > > > > >> >=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > >> > --
> >> > > > > >> > To post a message to the list, send it to=3D20
> >> > > > jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To=3D3D20=3D20
> >> > > > > >> >unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message =3D
> >> > > to=3D3D3D3D20=3D3D20=3D20
> >> > > > > >> >jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word=20
> unsubscribe in=3D20
> >> > > > > >> >the=3D3D3D3D20=3D3D20 subject line.  Archives located =
at:
> >> > > > > >> >//www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
> >> > > > > >> >=3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > >> > If you have any concerns about the list, post received
> > =3D3D
> >> > > > from=3D3D3D3D20=3D3D20
> >> > > > > >> >the list, or the way the list is being run, do not
> > post=3D3D20
> >> > > > > them=3D3D3D3D20 to=3D3D20
> >> > > > > >> >the list. Rather contact the list owner
> > at=3D3D3D3D20=3D3D20=3D20
> >> > > > > >> >jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx =3D3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > >> --
> >> > > > > >> To post a message to the list, send it to=3D20
> >> > > > jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx  To=3D3D20=3D20
> >> > > > > >>unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message
> > to=3D3D20=3D20
> >> > > > > >>jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word=20
> unsubscribe in=3D3D20
> >> > > > > the=3D3D3D20  subject
> >> > > > >=3D3D20
> >> > > > > >>line.  Archives located at:
> > //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
> >> > > > > >>=3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > >> If you have any concerns about the list, post=20
> received=3D3D20
> >> > > > > from=3D3D3D20  the=3D3D20
> >> > > > > >>list, or  the way the list is being run, do not post
> > them=3D3D20
> >> > > > > to the list.=3D3D20
> >> > > > > >>Rather  contact the list owner at=20
> jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > =3D
> >> > > =3D3D3D20=3D20
> >> > > > > >>=3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > >> --
> >> > > > > >> To post a message to the list, send it to=3D20
> >> > > > jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx  To=3D3D20=3D20
> >> > > > > >>unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a=20
> message to=3D3D3D20
> > =3D3D20
> >> > >
> >> > > > > >>=3D
> >> > >
> >> > > > > >>jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word=20
> unsubscribe in=3D3D20
> >> > > > > the=3D3D3D20  subject=3D3D20
> >> > > > > >>line.
> >> > > > > >> Archives located at:=20
> //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
> >> > > > > >>=3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > >> If you have any concerns about the list, post=20
> received=3D3D20
> >> > > > > from=3D3D3D20  the=3D3D20
> >> > > > > >>list, or the way the list is being run, do not post=3D20
> >> > > > them=3D3D3D20  to =3D3D
> >> > > > the=3D3D20
> >> > > > > >>list. Rather contact the list owner at=3D3D3D20  =3D3D
> >> > > > jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > > > > >>=3D3D3D20
> >> > > > > > --
> >> > > > > > To post a message to the list, send it to=20
> jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > =3D
> >> > > To=3D3D20=3D20
> >> > > > > > unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message
> > to=3D3D20=3D20
> >> > > > > > jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in
> > the=3D20
> >> > > > > > subject=3D3D20 line. Archives located at:
> >> > > > > > //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > If you have any concerns about the list, post received
> > from=3D3D20
> >> > > > > the list,=3D3D20
> >> > > > > > or the way the list is being run, do not post them to
> > the=3D3D20
> >> > > > > list. Rather=3D3D20
> >> > > > > > contact the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > > > > >=3D3D20
> >> > > > >=3D3D20
> >> > > > >=3D3D20
> >> > > > > --
> >> > > > > To post a message to the list, send it to
> > jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D3D20  To
> >> > >
> >> > > > >=3D
> >> > >
> >> > > > >unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message=20
> to=3D3D20=3D20
> >> > > > >jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in=3D20
> >> > > > the=3D3D20  subject=3D20
> >> > > > >line.  Archives located at:
> > //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
> >> > > > >=3D3D20
> >> > > > > If you have any concerns about the list, post received
> > from=3D3D20  =3D
> >> > > the=3D20
> >> > > > >list, or the way the list is being run, do not post=20
> them=3D3D20
> > to the
> >> > >
> >> > > > >=3D
> >> > >
> >> > > > >list. Rather contact the list owner at=3D3D20  =3D
> >> > > jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > > > >=3D3D20
> >> > > > >=3D3D20
> >> > > > > --
> >> > > > > To post a message to the list, send it to
> > jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D3D20  To
> >> > >
> >> > > > >=3D
> >> > >
> >> > > > >unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message=20
> to=3D3D20 =3D20
> >> > > > >jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in=3D20
> >> > > > the=3D3D20  subject=3D20
> >> > > > >line.
> >> > > > > Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
> >> > > > >=3D3D20
> >> > > > > If you have any concerns about the list, post received
> > from=3D3D20  =3D
> >> > > the=3D20
> >> > > > >list, or the way the list is being run, do not post=20
> them=3D3D20
> > to the
> >> > >
> >> > > > >=3D
> >> > >
> >> > > > >list. Rather contact the list owner at=3D3D20  =3D
> >> > > jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > > > >=3D3D20
> >> > > > --
> >> > > > To post a message to the list, send it to=20
> jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D20
> > To
> >> > > >unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to=3D20
> >> > > >jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in =
the=3D20
> > subject
> >> > > >line.  Archives located at:=20
> //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
> >> > > >=3D20
> >> > > > If you have any concerns about the list, post=20
> received from=3D20
> > the
> >> > > >list, or the way the list is being run, do not post=20
> them=3D20  to
> > the
> >> > > >list. Rather contact the list owner at=3D20
> > jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > > >=3D20
> >> > > > --
> >> > > > To post a message to the list, send it to=20
> jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D20
> > To
> >> > > >unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to=3D20
> >> > > >jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in =
the=3D20
> > subject
> >> > > >line.  Archives located at:=20
> //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
> >> > > >=3D20
> >> > > > If you have any concerns about the list, post=20
> received from=3D20
> >> > > > the list, or the way the list is being run, do not=20
> post them=3D20
> >> > > > to the list. Rather contact the list owner at=3D20
> >> > > > jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > > >=3D20
> >> > > --
> >> > > To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > > To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to
> >> > > jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in=20
> the subject
> > line.
> >> > > Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
> >> > >
> >> > > If you have any concerns about the list, post received from the
> > list, or
> >> > > the way the list is being run, do not post them to the list.
> > Rather
> >> > > contact the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > >
> >> > > --
> >> > > To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > > To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to
> >> > > jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in=20
> the subject
> > line.
> >> > > Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
> >> > >
> >> > > If you have any concerns about the list, post received from the
> > list, or
> >> > > the way the list is being run, do not post them to the list.
> > Rather
> >> > > contact the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > >
> >> > > --
> >> > > To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > > To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to
> >> > > jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in=20
> the subject
> > line.
> >> > > Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
> >> > >
> >> > > If you have any concerns about the list, post received from the
> > list, or
> >> > > the way the list is being run, do not post them to the list.
> > Rather
> >> > > contact the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > >
> >> > > --
> >> > > To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > > To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to
> >> > > jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in=20
> the subject
> > line.
> >> > > Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
> >> > >
> >> > > If you have any concerns about the list, post received from the
> > list, or
> >> > > the
> >> > > way the list is being run, do not post them to the list. Rather
> > contact
> >> > > the
> >> > > list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > >
> >> > > --
> >> > > To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > > To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to
> >> > > jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in=20
> the subject
> > line.
> >> > > Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
> >> > >
> >> > > If you have any concerns about the list, post received from the
> > list, or
> >> > > the way the list is being run, do not post them to the list.
> > Rather
> >> > > contact the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > --
> >> > > To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > > To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to
> >> jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the
> >> > subject line.
> >> > > Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
> >> > >
> >> > > If you have any concerns about the list, post received from the
> > list, or
> >> the way the list is being run, do not post
> >> > them to the list. Rather contact the list owner at
> >> jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > >
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to
> >> jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject
> > line.
> >> > Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
> >> >
> >> > If you have any concerns about the list, post received from the
> > list, or
> >> the way the list is being run, do not post them to the list. Rather
> > contact
> >> the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>
> >> --
> >> To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to
> > jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the
> > subject line.
> >> Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
> >>
> >> If you have any concerns about the list, post received=20
> from the list,
> > or the way the list is being run, do not post
> > them to the list. Rather contact the list owner at
> > jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >
> > --
> > To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to
> > jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the=20
> subject line.
> > Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
> >
> > If you have any concerns about the list, post received from=20
> the list, or
> > the way the list is being run, do not post them to the list. Rather
> > contact the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Date: Thu, 30 Dec 2004 17:17:59 -0600
> > From: Jeanie Vejil <proud2have-tsedog@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Subject: Help with Ad Aware SE
> >
> > Please forgive me if this message has gotten to the list=20
> already, but I
> > have not seen it come through so am sending it again.
> >
> > I'm considering trying Ad Aware SE, that is, if it's=20
> itended for use with
> > win 98 SE.
> >
> > A friend of mine was trying it with XP Home this morning and it kept
> > finding the same critical objects but wasn't able to delete=20
> them.  She
> > finally got them dleted but doesn't really kno how she did it.
> >
> > i'm still using ad aware 6, but have heard Ad Aware SE=20
> finds more spyware
> > objects than Ad Aware 6.  Can anyone explain how to use Ad Aware SE?
> >
> > Thanks for your help in advance.
> >
> > Jeanie Vejil
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > From: "John Miller" <n1umj@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Subject: Re: Help with Ad Aware SE
> > Date: Thu, 30 Dec 2004 18:22:39 -0500
> >
> > Ad-arare SE works a lot like version 6, some minor=20
> differences but nothing
> > real major, it will work with windows 98SE, my ham radio=20
> computer has it
> > working just fine. To delete the items,  when the scan is done, hit=20
> > control
> > N, if you have the scripts, then control M and control N=20
> again and it=20
> > should
> > confirm or just get rid of them depending on how you have=20
> it set. I always
> > get the latest version of ad-aware as the newer version=20
> will find more=20
> > then
> > the old one did more often then not.
> > ----- Original Message -----=20
> > From: "Jeanie Vejil" <proud2have-tsedog@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 6:17 PM
> > Subject: Help with Ad Aware SE
> >
> >
> >> Please forgive me if this message has gotten to the list=20
> already, but I
> >> have not seen it come through so am sending it again.
> >>
> >> I'm considering trying Ad Aware SE, that is, if it's=20
> itended for use with
> >> win 98 SE.
> >>
> >> A friend of mine was trying it with XP Home this morning=20
> and it kept
> >> finding the same critical objects but wasn't able to=20
> delete them.  She
> >> finally got them dleted but doesn't really kno how she did it.
> >>
> >> i'm still using ad aware 6, but have heard Ad Aware SE=20
> finds more spyware
> >> objects than Ad Aware 6.  Can anyone explain how to use Ad=20
> Aware SE?
> >>
> >> Thanks for your help in advance.
> >>
> >> Jeanie Vejil
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to
> >> jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the=20
> subject line.
> >> Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
> >>
> >> If you have any concerns about the list, post received=20
> from the list, or
> >> the way the list is being run, do not post them to the list. Rather
> >> contact the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Date: Thu, 30 Dec 2004 15:29:18 -0800
> > From: "Jean C. Turley-Sinclair" <jcts@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Subject: Adobe
> >
> > I have Adobe 5.1 installed on my computer now. If I=20
> download Adobe 7.0
> > will it load over 5.1 or do I get rid of 5.1 and then=20
> download 7.0, or=20
> > will
> > 7.0 load into its own folder and then I get rid of 5.1?
> > Thanks, Jean
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2004 05:05:05 +0530
> > From: Pranav Lal <pranav.lal@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Subject: Re: JFW and the security testing products from grc.com
> >
> > Hi Steve,
> >
> > Thanks I have got as far as hitting say the button for the=20
> common ports
> > scan. I hit enter on it and I get the blurb about reverse=20
> dns look up or
> > something. I cannot find the results of the port scan with jfw.
> >
> > Pranav
> > At 12:03 AM 12/31/2004, Steve wrote:
> > Pranav,
> >
> > Go to GRC.com.  After a small blurb about his hard disk=20
> utility, you will
> > see
> > his page load.  Find the shieldsUp link and press enter.
> >
> > Now, you can use the forms field f key to find the proceed=20
> button.  Press
> > spacebar on it.
> >
> > Now, you will have several buttons available for different=20
> aspects of the
> > ShieldsUp tests.  There are file-sharing, common ports=20
> probe, all service
> > ports probe, Messenger spam probe, browser header, or a=20
> custom port edit
> > field
> > where you can enter any port number from 0 to 65000=20
> followed by the custom
> > port button.
> >
> > To activate any of these, find the button you are=20
> interested in.  It is
> > recommended that new users start with file-sharing and then=20
> common port
> > probe.
> > So, find file-sharing button using your f key.  Route JFW=20
> to PC with the
> > insert-minus key.  Using a rapid doble-click of the=20
> left-mouse emulation
> > key
> > with the numpade slash key.
> >
> > You will soon see the results on the web page.
> >
> >
> > Hope this was helpful.
> >
> > Steve
> > Lansing, MI
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to
> > jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the=20
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> > Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
> >
> > If you have any concerns about the list, post received from=20
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> > the way the list is being run, do not post them to the list. Rather=20
> > contact
> > the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > From: "Sin" <DanOzuna@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Subject: Re: I am still confused about using windows media=20
> player with=20
> > jaws fiv
> > Date: Thu, 30 Dec 2004 15:40:32 -0800
> >
> > Hi Shelly
> >
> > I have never tried this, but you can burn CD's with Winamp.=20
> However, the
> > burning speed is limited to 2x with the free version of Winamp.
> >
> > Sin
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "shelly christner" <shelly4jericho@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 2:21 PM
> > Subject: I am still confused about using windows media=20
> player with jaws=20
> > five
> > point zero.
> >
> >
> >> Hello there,
> >> Okay the windows media player info that i have gotten is=20
> still confusing
> > to
> >> me.
> >> Are there any other free programs that i could use to burn=20
> music with=20
> >> jaws
> >> if windows media player is to hard to figure out.
> >> I have only had my computer for a month.
> >> the windows media player came with my computer.
> >> I dont no where any of that burning cd commands are at.
> >> Thank you all for helping me,
> >> shelly
> >>
> >> _________________________________________________________________
> >> Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download=20
> today - it's=20
> >> FREE!
> >> http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/
> >>
> >> --
> >> To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to
> > jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the=20
> subject line.
> >> Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
> >>
> >> If you have any concerns about the list, post received=20
> from the list, or
> > the way the list is being run, do not post them to the list. Rather=20
> > contact
> > the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > From: "david poehlman" <david.poehlman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Subject: Re: Adobe
> > Date: Thu, 30 Dec 2004 18:46:57 -0500
> >
> > See if 5.1 has an update option and if it does, try it that=20
> way.  If not,
> > uninstall 5.1 and then install 7.0.
> >
> > Johnnie Apple Seed
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----=20
> > From: "Jean C. Turley-Sinclair" <jcts@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 6:29 PM
> > Subject: Adobe
> >
> >
> > I have Adobe 5.1 installed on my computer now. If I=20
> download Adobe 7.0
> > will it load over 5.1 or do I get rid of 5.1 and then=20
> download 7.0, or=20
> > will
> > 7.0 load into its own folder and then I get rid of 5.1?
> > Thanks, Jean
> >
> >
> > --
> > To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to
> > jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the=20
> subject line.
> > Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
> >
> > If you have any concerns about the list, post received from=20
> the list, or=20
> > the
> > way the list is being run, do not post them to the list.=20
> Rather contact=20
> > the
> > list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > From: "Sin" <DanOzuna@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Subject: Re: AVG Anti Virus
> > Date: Thu, 30 Dec 2004 16:04:58 -0800
> >
> > John
> >
> > This isn't necessarily true. My brother is using Norton AV=20
> 2003 on his XP
> > home box. He manually checks for updates every other day in=20
> addition to=20
> > the
> > automatic updates and he has still had 3 bad virus=20
> infections. I have JFW=20
> > on
> > that machine and have never had a problem using norton AV.=20
> However, I have
> > seen a computer running NSW get slowed down badly by the=20
> product. After=20
> > NSW
> > was UnInstalled it ran much faster. I on the other hand=20
> have been using=20
> > AVG
> > for around 2 years with JFW and have never had an=20
> infection. I guess it=20
> > all
> > depends on what you do with your computer.
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "John Miller" <n1umj@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 4:22 AM
> > Subject: Re: AVG Anti Virus
> >
> >
> >> you obviously weren't keeping Norton up to date then=20
> because I've never
> > had
> >> an infection with Norton and can honestly say, if you want=20
> to put your
> > faith
> >> in a product that's free where they can turn around and=20
> stop tech support
> >> any time they want, and in the antivirus world where you=20
> generally get
> > what
> >> you pay for, it's your choice but I'm staying with what I=20
> know works with
> >> jaws, and more importantly, what I know will keep my computer safe.
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Kerri" <ruby75@xxxxxxxxx>
> >> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 12:16 AM
> >> Subject: Re: AVG Anti Virus
> >>
> >>
> >> > Hello! I have also used AVG 6 andnow 7 and have never had any=20
> >> > infection.
> >> > however,with norton, I had about 3 or so serious infections.
> >> > ----- Original Message -----
> >> > From: "Ray Foret Jr." <rforetjr@xxxxxxxxx>
> >> > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 6:36 AM
> >> > Subject: Re: AVG Anti Virus
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > I use AVG as my anti virus.  I use the free version. =20
> Version 7 is good
> >> > with
> >> > JAWS version 6.  Be aware that you'll have to set your=20
> JAWS up to read
> > all
> >> > text rather than just highlighted text when you go in to=20
> the program's
> >> > control center.  If you like, you can set JAWS up so=20
> that it only reads
> >> > all
> >> > text while in the virus vault and the control center and just
> > highlighted
> >> > text else where in the program.  I've had it for months=20
> and never an
> >> > infection once ever.
> >> >
> >> > Sincerely Yours,
> >> >
> >> > The Constantly BAREFOOTED
> >> > Ray
> >> >
> >> > Home Phone And Fax:  (985)853-0139
> >> > E-mail and Windows Messenger:
> >> > rforetjr@xxxxxxxxx
> >> >
> >> > God Bless President George W Bush
> >> > God Bless America
> >> > And God Bless Our Troops
> >> >
> >> > ----- Original Message -----
> >> > From: "Linksma Mezgeja" <love2knit@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > To: "jfw" <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 7:19 AM
> >> > Subject: AVG Anti Virus
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Hi!  Does anybody use AVG as their anti virus? If so,=20
> how accessible is
> > it
> >> > for the new version of JAWS which I hope to install from=20
> disc, after it
> >> > arrives?
> >> > If you have used Norton and changed over to AVG, which=20
> do you prefer
> >> > strictly as an anti virus?
> >> > Thanks.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to
> >> > jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in=20
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> >> > line.
> >> > Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
> >> >
> >> > If you have any concerns about the list, post received=20
> from the list,=20
> >> > or
> >> > the
> >> > way the list is being run, do not post them to the list.=20
> Rather contact
> >> > the
> >> > list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > No virus found in this incoming message.
> >> > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.
> >> > Version: 7.0.298 / Virus Database: 265.6.6 - Release=20
> Date: 12/28/2004
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > No virus found in this outgoing message.
> >> > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.
> >> > Version: 7.0.298 / Virus Database: 265.6.6 - Release=20
> Date: 12/28/2004
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to
> >> > jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in=20
> the subject=20
> >> > line.
> >> > Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
> >> >
> >> > If you have any concerns about the list, post received=20
> from the list,=20
> >> > or
> >> > the
> >> > way the list is being run, do not post them to the list.=20
> Rather contact
> >> > the
> >> > list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > No virus found in this incoming message.
> >> > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.
> >> > Version: 7.0.298 / Virus Database: 265.6.6 - Release=20
> Date: 12/28/2004
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > No virus found in this outgoing message.
> >> > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.
> >> > Version: 7.0.298 / Virus Database: 265.6.6 - Release=20
> Date: 12/28/2004
> >> >
> >> > --
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> >> > To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to
> >> > jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in=20
> the subject=20
> >> > line.
> >> > Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
> >> >
> >> > If you have any concerns about the list, post received=20
> from the list,=20
> >> > or
> >> > the way the list is being run, do not post them to the=20
> list. Rather
> >> > contact the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to
> > jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the=20
> subject line.
> >> Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
> >>
> >> If you have any concerns about the list, post received=20
> from the list, or
> > the way the list is being run, do not post them to the list. Rather=20
> > contact
> > the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Date: Thu, 30 Dec 2004 18:05:26 -0600
> > From: Jeanie Vejil <proud2have-tsedog@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Subject: Re: Help with Ad Aware SE
> >
> > Thanks John.  I may give it a try.
> >
> > Jeanie
> >
> > At 06:22 PM 12/30/04 -0500, you wrote:
> >>Ad-arare SE works a lot like version 6, some minor=20
> differences but nothing
> >>real major, it will work with windows 98SE, my ham radio=20
> computer has it
> >>working just fine. To delete the items,  when the scan is done, hit=20
> >>control
> >>N, if you have the scripts, then control M and control N=20
> again and it=20
> >>should
> >>confirm or just get rid of them depending on how you have=20
> it set. I always
> >>get the latest version of ad-aware as the newer version=20
> will find more=20
> >>then
> >>the old one did more often then not.
> >>----- Original Message -----
> >>From: "Jeanie Vejil" <proud2have-tsedog@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 6:17 PM
> >>Subject: Help with Ad Aware SE
> >>
> >>
> >> > Please forgive me if this message has gotten to the list=20
> already, but I
> >> > have not seen it come through so am sending it again.
> >> >
> >> > I'm considering trying Ad Aware SE, that is, if it's=20
> itended for use=20
> >> > with
> >> > win 98 SE.
> >> >
> >> > A friend of mine was trying it with XP Home this morning=20
> and it kept
> >> > finding the same critical objects but wasn't able to=20
> delete them.  She
> >> > finally got them dleted but doesn't really kno how she did it.
> >> >
> >> > i'm still using ad aware 6, but have heard Ad Aware SE=20
> finds more=20
> >> > spyware
> >> > objects than Ad Aware 6.  Can anyone explain how to use=20
> Ad Aware SE?
> >> >
> >> > Thanks for your help in advance.
> >> >
> >> > Jeanie Vejil
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to
> >> > jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in=20
> the subject=20
> >> > line.
> >> > Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
> >> >
> >> > If you have any concerns about the list, post received=20
> from the list,=20
> >> > or
> >> > the way the list is being run, do not post them to the=20
> list. Rather
> >> > contact the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >>--
> >>To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to
> >>jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the=20
> subject line.
> >>Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
> >>
> >>If you have any concerns about the list, post received from=20
> the list, or
> >>the way the list is being run, do not post them to the list. Rather
> >>contact the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > From: "Steve" <k8sp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Subject: re: grc.com
> > Date: Thu, 30 Dec 2004 19:22:21 -0500
> >
> > Pranav,
> >
> > I don't know what to tell you to diagnose your situation. =20
> As I mentioned,=20
> > you
> > need to route JFW to PC and then left-click it twice rapidly.
> >
> > It works for me, so I don't know what problem you are=20
> having.  I can't
> > remember, but after you click on common ports, there might=20
> be another=20
> > proceed
> > button you need to activate with your spacebar.
> >
> > Steve
> > Lansing, MI
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > From: "G.W. Cox" <gwcox2@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Subject: Re: Adobe
> > Date: Thu, 30 Dec 2004 17:22:35 -0700
> >
> > I installed version seven last week without removing the=20
> previous version.=20
> > I
> > am pretty sure the new version's installation started with=20
> an automatic
> > deletion of the previous version. I just checked and=20
> version seven is all=20
> > I
> > have on board right now.
> > ----- Original Message -----=20
> > From: "Jean C. Turley-Sinclair" <jcts@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 4:29 PM
> > Subject: Adobe
> >
> >
> >> I have Adobe 5.1 installed on my computer now. If I=20
> download Adobe 7.0
> >> will it load over 5.1 or do I get rid of 5.1 and then=20
> download 7.0, or
> >> will
> >> 7.0 load into its own folder and then I get rid of 5.1?
> >> Thanks, Jean
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to
> >> jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the=20
> subject line.
> >> Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
> >>
> >> If you have any concerns about the list, post received=20
> from the list, or
> >> the way the list is being run, do not post them to the list. Rather
> >> contact the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > From: "bc" <bc@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Subject: Re: laptop hotkey question
> > Date: Thu, 30 Dec 2004 16:30:02 -0800
> >
> > I've tried this, however the Function key is a non standard=20
> key, and Jaws
> > doesn't recognize it as a keystroke... Much as pressing the=20
> Control key is
> > not accepted as a valid keystroke.
> >
> > Someone wrote the list about a week ago saying that he was=20
> able to do=20
> > this,
> > but I forgot to ask how he had done it at the time.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----=20
> > From: "david poehlman" <david.poehlman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 1:15 PM
> > Subject: Re: laptop hotkey question
> >
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > OPen keyboard manager with Jawskey+8 on the numbers row, =20
> Arrow up to
> > default, tab to the list of keys and press j till you hear=20
> jaws key, press
> > alt+a and press enter on add keystroke,
> > press the key stroke you want to add and press enter. =20
> Confirm and close.
> >
> > Johnnie Apple Seed
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----=20
> > From: "bc" <bc@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 3:55 PM
> > Subject: laptop hotkey question
> >
> >
> > Does anyone know how to assign the JawsKey to the Function key?
> >
> > I think it would work better than the Capslock key (for me=20
> at any rate).
> >
> > Thanks...
> >
> > Bryan
> >
> > --
> > To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to
> > jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the=20
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> >
> > If you have any concerns about the list, post received from=20
> the list, or=20
> > the
> > way the list is being run, do not post them to the list.=20
> Rather contact=20
> > the
> > list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >
> > --
> > To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to
> > jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the=20
> subject line.
> > Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
> >
> > If you have any concerns about the list, post received from=20
> the list, or=20
> > the
> > way the list is being run, do not post them to the list.=20
> Rather contact=20
> > the
> > list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2004 06:22:52 +0530
> > From: Pranav Lal <pranav.lal@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Subject: re: grc.com
> >
> > Steve,
> > <snip but after you click on common ports, there might be=20
> another proceed
> > button you need to activate with your spacebar.
> > PL] I did just that. I am taken back to the page where I=20
> selected what=20
> > port
> > scan I want to do. I do nnot see any scan results.
> >
> > pranav
> >
> > At 05:52 AM 12/31/2004, Steve wrote:
> > Pranav,
> >
> > I don't know what to tell you to diagnose your situation. =20
> As I mentioned,
> > you
> > need to route JFW to PC and then left-click it twice rapidly.
> >
> > It works for me, so I don't know what problem you are=20
> having.  I can't
> > remember, but after you click on common ports, there might=20
> be another
> > proceed
> > button you need to activate with your spacebar.
> >
> > Steve
> > Lansing, MI
> >
> >
> >
> > --
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> > the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > From: "david poehlman" <david.poehlman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Subject: Re: laptop hotkey question
> > Date: Thu, 30 Dec 2004 20:25:24 -0500
> >
> > so you are wanting to use the fn key.  I see the problem. =20
> I tried it with
> > f4 and it worked fine.
> >
> > Johnnie Apple Seed
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----=20
> > From: "bc" <bc@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 7:30 PM
> > Subject: Re: laptop hotkey question
> >
> >
> > I've tried this, however the Function key is a non standard=20
> key, and Jaws
> > doesn't recognize it as a keystroke... Much as pressing the=20
> Control key is
> > not accepted as a valid keystroke.
> >
> > Someone wrote the list about a week ago saying that he was=20
> able to do=20
> > this,
> > but I forgot to ask how he had done it at the time.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----=20
> > From: "david poehlman" <david.poehlman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 1:15 PM
> > Subject: Re: laptop hotkey question
> >
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > OPen keyboard manager with Jawskey+8 on the numbers row, =20
> Arrow up to
> > default, tab to the list of keys and press j till you hear=20
> jaws key, press
> > alt+a and press enter on add keystroke,
> > press the key stroke you want to add and press enter. =20
> Confirm and close.
> >
> > Johnnie Apple Seed
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----=20
> > From: "bc" <bc@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 3:55 PM
> > Subject: laptop hotkey question
> >
> >
> > Does anyone know how to assign the JawsKey to the Function key?
> >
> > I think it would work better than the Capslock key (for me=20
> at any rate).
> >
> > Thanks...
> >
> > Bryan
> >
> > --
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> >
> >
> > --
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> the list, or=20
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> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > From: "david poehlman" <david.poehlman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Subject: Re: Adobe
> > Date: Thu, 30 Dec 2004 20:25:47 -0500
> >
> > oops, correct.
> >
> > Johnnie Apple Seed
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----=20
> > From: "G.W. Cox" <gwcox2@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 7:22 PM
> > Subject: Re: Adobe
> >
> >
> > I installed version seven last week without removing the=20
> previous version.=20
> > I
> > am pretty sure the new version's installation started with=20
> an automatic
> > deletion of the previous version. I just checked and=20
> version seven is all=20
> > I
> > have on board right now.
> > ----- Original Message -----=20
> > From: "Jean C. Turley-Sinclair" <jcts@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 4:29 PM
> > Subject: Adobe
> >
> >
> >> I have Adobe 5.1 installed on my computer now. If I=20
> download Adobe 7.0
> >> will it load over 5.1 or do I get rid of 5.1 and then=20
> download 7.0, or
> >> will
> >> 7.0 load into its own folder and then I get rid of 5.1?
> >> Thanks, Jean
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to
> >> jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the=20
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> >>
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> from the list, or
> >> the way the list is being run, do not post them to the list. Rather
> >> contact the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>
> >
> >
> > --
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> > To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to
> > jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the=20
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> >
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> > way the list is being run, do not post them to the list.=20
> Rather contact=20
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> > list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > From: "matthew dyer" <mdyer1@xxxxxxxxxx>
> > Subject: RE: AVG Anti Virus
> > Date: Thu, 30 Dec 2004 20:40:38 -0600
> >
> > One thing I have nottest with avg is that it keeps the=20
> computer running
> > smoothly, but if you use norten It really slows the computer down.
> >
> > Matthew
> >
> >
> >
> > if you want to chat with me you can use msn at=20
> matthewdyer483@xxxxxxx
> >
> > UIf you use aol my screen name is matTdD7
> >
> >
> >
> > --=20
> > No virus found in this outgoing message.
> > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.
> > Version: 7.0.296 / Virus Database: 265.6.7 - Release Date:=20
> 12/30/2004
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > From: "chevelle" <chevelle33@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Subject: Re: how do i use windows media player with my jaws.
> > Date: Thu, 30 Dec 2004 20:51:01 -0500
> >
> > Hi Shelly, I have windows media 10, but I don't really use=20
> it. Write me=20
> > off
> > list, and I can try to help you with your request. E-mail me at
> > chevelle33@xxxxxxxxxxx
> > ----- Original Message -----=20
> > From: "shelly christner" <shelly4jericho@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 3:55 PM
> > Subject: how do i use windows media player with my jaws.
> >
> >
> >> Hi there,
> >> I was just wonderign if anybody could help me figure out how to use
> >> windows
> >> media player with jaws.
> >> I have version five point zero of jaws.
> >> and i have version ten of windows media player.
> >> i really would like to no how to burn cds on my own=20
> instead of my always
> >> having to ask my twin sister for help.thanks, and if you=20
> want any more
> >> info
> >> feel free to email me,
> >> shelly
> >>
> >> _________________________________________________________________
> >> Don't just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search!
> >> http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/
> >>
> >> --
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> >> To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to
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> >>
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> >> contact the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > From: "John Miller" <n1umj@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Subject: Re: AVG Anti Virus
> > Date: Thu, 30 Dec 2004 21:31:21 -0500
> >
> > I've never noticed Norton to slow my computer down, yes I=20
> do remember what
> > it was like before I installed it. Maybe my old 300 MHz=20
> machine it might
> > have made a difference but that had 64 megs of RAM too,=20
> most anything=20
> > would
> > slow that down, not to mention that was my famous last dell=20
> product I'll
> > ever own.
> > ----- Original Message -----=20
> > From: "matthew dyer" <mdyer1@xxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 9:40 PM
> > Subject: RE: AVG Anti Virus
> >
> >
> >> One thing I have nottest with avg is that it keeps the=20
> computer running
> >> smoothly, but if you use norten It really slows the computer down.
> >>
> >> Matthew
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> if you want to chat with me you can use msn at=20
> matthewdyer483@xxxxxxx
> >>
> >> UIf you use aol my screen name is matTdD7
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --=20
> >> No virus found in this outgoing message.
> >> Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.
> >> Version: 7.0.296 / Virus Database: 265.6.7 - Release Date:=20
> 12/30/2004
> >>
> >>
> >> --
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> >> To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to
> >> jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the=20
> subject line.
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> >>
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> from the list, or
> >> the way the list is being run, do not post them to the list. Rather
> >> contact the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > From: "Stu" <k5stu@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Subject: front page express
> > Date: Thu, 30 Dec 2004 20:38:08 -0600
> >
> > A friend of mine is trying to use front page express and=20
> asked me if I=20
> > knew
> > of a place wheir he could get some instructions on it's=20
> use, and of course=20
> > I
> > don't. Do any of you know of any web sites which he can go=20
> to to get some
> > help?
> > Stu
> > k5stu@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Argument is the worst kind of conversation
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > From: "Francis Daniels" <fdaniels@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Subject: Re: AVG Anti Virus
> > Date: Thu, 30 Dec 2004 19:30:54 -0800
> >
> >> Matthew wrote: One thing I have nottest with avg is that=20
> it keeps the
> >> computer running
> > smoothly, but if you use norten It really slows the computer down.>
> >
> > Matthew, how did you come to this conclusion?  Do you, or=20
> anyone else on
> > this list, have anything to compare the two programs?  I'm=20
> interested
> > because I'm doing some research for a friend and would like=20
> to see a valid
> > comparison.
> >
> > Francis
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > From: Djasister2@xxxxxxx
> > Date: Thu, 30 Dec 2004 22:36:12 EST
> > Subject: Re: JFW and the security testing products from grc.com
> >
> > What is this program exactly?
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > From: "Steve" <k8sp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Subject: Re: grc.com
> > Date: Thu, 30 Dec 2004 23:07:24 -0500
> >
> > Pranav,
> >
> > Ok, I just duplicated what you need to do.
> >
> > After you press the common ports buttn by double-clicking with your
> > left-mouse, as I described earlier, then wait about five=20
> seconds.  It may=20
> > take
> > longer if you are on a dial-up connection.
> >
> > But, you will see that the page refreshes.  Now, if you go=20
> back to the=20
> > top,
> > you will see a text summary button, just press the spacebar=20
> on it and you=20
> > will
> > see a list of your port results.
> >
> > The common ports test probes 26 different common ports.  It=20
> will let you=20
> > know
> > which ones are open, closed, or ideally stealthed.
> >
> > Steve
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Date: Thu, 30 Dec 2004 20:09:25 -0800
> > From: "Jean C. Turley-Sinclair" <jcts@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Subject: Spy Sweeper
> >
> > Hi,
> > I installed Spy Sweeper a few days ago and am having a=20
> little trouble
> > navigating it to accomplish its purpose. Does anyone have=20
> any tips for me
> > so I can use this program easily? I am using JAWS 5.0 and XP home..
> > Thanks, Jean
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Date: Thu, 30 Dec 2004 22:23:19 -0600
> > From: Ann Byrne <annakb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Subject: Re: Spy Sweeper
> >
> > First, turn off the stinkin graphics!  For me at least,=20
> they just get in
> > the way.
> >
> > I haven't used SpySweeper in a couple of months, but I=20
> think there were
> > three (probably) frames on the screen.  In order to scan=20
> the PC you have=20
> > to
> > click something that says you're going to use it, then tab=20
> till you get to
> > a start button.  It's a two part start.
> >
> > SpySweeper lists the bad stuff in a window JAWS doesn't=20
> recognize very
> > well.  Reclassing it to listview helps a lot.
> >
> > When the scan is finished  the bottom of the screen gives=20
> you choices of
> > deleting and quarantining.  I fought the sucker tooth and=20
> nail till it=20
> > said
> > delete.  I think you have to click something (results,=20
> maybe) before you
> > can delete anything.
> >
> > The PCCursor gets stuck in each frame, but you can move=20
> among the frames
> > with the JAWS cursor.
> >
> > SpySweeper was very highly rated on the spyware removal=20
> sites I looked at,
> > but a real pain in the neck to use.
> >
> >
> > good luck.
> >
> > ann
> >
> > Good luck!
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Date: Thu, 30 Dec 2004 23:42:07 -0600
> > From: Scott Berry <scott@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Subject: Re: front page express
> >
> > He may be able to get some general help from=20
> www.blindprogramming.com.  He
> > should go under the web design link.
> >
> > At 08:38 PM 12/30/2004, you wrote:
> >
> >>A friend of mine is trying to use front page express and=20
> asked me if I=20
> >>knew
> >>of a place wheir he could get some instructions on it's=20
> use, and of course=20
> >>I
> >>don't. Do any of you know of any web sites which he can go=20
> to to get some
> >>help?
> >>Stu
> >>k5stu@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>Argument is the worst kind of conversation
> >>
> >>--
> >>To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to
> >>jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the=20
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> >>
> >>If you have any concerns about the list, post received from=20
> the list, or
> >>the way the list is being run, do not post them to the list. Rather
> >>contact the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>--
> >>No virus found in this incoming message.
> >>Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.
> >>Version: 7.0.296 / Virus Database: 265.6.6 - Release Date:=20
> 12/28/2004
> >
> >
> > --=20
> > No virus found in this outgoing message.
> > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.
> > Version: 7.0.296 / Virus Database: 265.6.6 - Release Date:=20
> 12/28/2004
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > From: "Kerri" <ruby75@xxxxxxxxx>
> > Subject: Re: sounds manager
> > Date: Thu, 30 Dec 2004 22:17:22 -0800
> >
> > good! going! Graham!
> > ----- Original Message -----=20
> > From: "Graham Stoodley" <stoodlg@xxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 9:44 AM
> > Subject: Re: sounds manager
> >
> >
> > Stop carrying out your personal grievances on this list. =20
> Non of the rest=20
> > of
> > us cares.  Both of you are being remarkably childish, and I=20
> am tired of=20
> > your
> > wasting my time with your recriminations.
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----=20
> > From: "chevelle" <chevelle33@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 12:07 PM
> > Subject: Re: sounds manager
> >
> >
> >> Listen, you did the same thing to me when I explained something to
> >> someone.
> >> I said go to basics. You sent a stupid post saying where=20
> is the baics?
> >> when
> >> you knew darned well where the baics is so don't talk=20
> about wasting time,
> >> and what is off topic. You can dish it out, but you can't=20
> take it can=20
> >> you!
> >> ----- Original Message -----=20
> >> From: "david poehlman" <david.poehlman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 9:59 AM
> >> Subject: Re: sounds manager
> >>
> >>
> >>> then they should ask. this is getting off topic.  If you=20
> have a problem
> >>> with
> >>> something I post, I suggest you write me privately and=20
> perhaps we can
> >>> streighten it out.  I use correct terminology in my=20
> posts.  If people
> >>> need
> >>> more specificis, I am happy to furnish them but if people=20
> just want to
> >>> waste
> >>> time, I can do that too.
> >>>
> >>> Johnnie Apple Seed
> >>>
> >>> ----- Original Message -----=20
> >>> From: "chevelle" <chevelle33@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>> Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 9:02 AM
> >>> Subject: Re: sounds manager
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> YOu didn't tell them how to open the default manager.=20
> Maybe they dont
> >>> know
> >>> how to do that.
> >>> ----- Original Message -----=20
> >>> From: "david poehlman" <david.poehlman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>> Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 8:44 PM
> >>> Subject: Re: sounds manager
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>I told someone to open default configuration manager.
> >>>>
> >>>> Johnnie Apple Seed
> >>>>
> >>>> ----- Original Message -----=20
> >>>> From: "chevelle" <chevelle33@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 8:33 PM
> >>>> Subject: Re: sounds manager
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Look at your won post. You told someone to choose=20
> default. How! do!=20
> >>>> you!
> >>>> choose! the default!
> >>>> ----- Original Message -----=20
> >>>> From: "david poehlman" <david.poehlman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 8:22 PM
> >>>> Subject: Re: sounds manager
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> what default?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Johnnie Apple Seed
> >>>>>
> >>>>> ----- Original Message -----=20
> >>>>> From: "chevelle" <chevelle33@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>>>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 8:19 PM
> >>>>> Subject: Re: sounds manager
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> That doesn't explain how you choose the default.
> >>>>> ----- Original Message -----=20
> >>>>> From: "david poehlman" <david.poehlman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>>>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 7:50 PM
> >>>>> Subject: Re: sounds manager
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> default is classic.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Johnnie Apple Seed
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> ----- Original Message -----=20
> >>>>>> From: "chevelle" <chevelle33@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>>>>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 7:36 PM
> >>>>>> Subject: Re: sounds manager
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> How do you choose the default, and how do you get to=20
> the speech and
> >>>>>> sounds
> >>>>>> manager?
> >>>>>> ----- Original Message -----=20
> >>>>>> From: "david poehlman"=20
> <david.poehlman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>>>>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 6:26 PM
> >>>>>> Subject: Re: sounds manager
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> speech and sounds manager is simple but there are a=20
> lot of choices=20
> >>>>>>> to
> >>>>>>> make
> >>>>>>> or to choose from among.  You must look through it=20
> and figure out
> >>>>>>> what
> >>>>>>> yu
> >>>>>>> want to do.  It is not hard to do any of it and you=20
> must also choose
> >>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>> app
> >>>>>>> you intend to work with.  Choose default if you wish=20
> by opening the
> >>>>>>> default
> >>>>>>> configuration manager and choosing speech and sounds=20
> manager and
> >>>>>>> opening
> >>>>>>> it
> >>>>>>> up, click edit scheme button and press space, the=20
> first tab is the
> >>>>>>> general
> >>>>>>> tab and you can leave the description the way it is,=20
> ctrl+tab to the
> >>>>>>> other
> >>>>>>> pages and look through the options and things you can=20
> ghance and
> >>>>>>> decide
> >>>>>>> what
> >>>>>>> to change.  If you want to change the way a slider sounds for
> >>>>>>> instance,
> >>>>>>> go
> >>>>>>> to the bottom of the list on the first page and then=20
> tab to the=20
> >>>>>>> group
> >>>>>>> of
> >>>>>>> four radio buttons and select the one you want the=20
> bahavior for.
> >>>>>>> Play
> >>>>>>> sound
> >>>>>>> is at the bottom, and for that, you must choose a wav=20
> file with the
> >>>>>>> next
> >>>>>>> button in tab order.  Once yu are done with the=20
> settings, click ok
> >>>>>>> and
> >>>>>>> ok
> >>>>>>> again if need be, close and save.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Johnnie Apple Seed
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----=20
> >>>>>>> From: <ptusing@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>>>>>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 5:40 PM
> >>>>>>> Subject: sounds manager
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Hi,
> >>>>>>> Could some one for the sake of argument go through=20
> like  the  steps
> >>>>>>> in
> >>>>>>> order
> >>>>>>> for setting the sounds  manager to put a sound on to let's say
> >>>>>>> something useful.
> >>>>>>> Thanks.
> >>>>>>> I was looking for this info as in sounds manager  in=20
> the JAWS  6=20
> >>>>>>> help
> >>>>>>> topics.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>> To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to
> >>>>>>> jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe=20
> in the subject
> >>>>>>> line.
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